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Describes need to go beyond notions of theism, even on level of \"good and bad.\" Discusses Darwin's theories of cause and effect as essentially Buddhist. Theistic views of being either saved or condemned known in Buddhist tradition as \"primitive beliefs about reality.\"  Opposite of theism is \"yourself'; you are at center of mandala of dharmadhatu and vajradhatu. Describes tendency to avoid that reality. Describes one's ego and neurosis as wholly created by you. The role of teacher: he or she stands with you in center of mandala, navigates boundary between vajradhatu and dharmadhatu. In Q\u0026amp;A, difference between dharmadhatu and vajradhatu; how mandala in vajrayana differs from the mahayana \"highway.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 19 2023 to Feb 07 2024 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about how to relate with space of dharmadhatu and vajradhatu non-theistically; they are not principles of worship, but the way things are.  Describes need to go beyond notions of theism, even on level of \"good and bad.\" Discusses Darwin's theories of cause and effect as essentially Buddhist. Theistic views of being either saved or condemned known in Buddhist tradition as \"primitive beliefs about reality.\"  Opposite of theism is \"yourself'; you are at center of mandala of dharmadhatu and vajradhatu. Describes tendency to avoid that reality. Describes one's ego and neurosis as wholly created by you. The role of teacher: he or she stands with you in center of mandala, navigates boundary between vajradhatu and dharmadhatu. In Q\u0026amp;A, difference between dharmadhatu and vajradhatu; how mandala in vajrayana differs from the mahayana \"highway.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/272/small/thumbnail_245272_1720578613.jpg?1720564214","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720578477_19760602VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2344.0,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/272/small/thumbnail_245272_1720578613.jpg?1720564214","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/272/original/1720578477_19760602VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720578493","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2344.0,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760602VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760602VCTR1 - Public Seminar - SoquelCA - Skillful Means  and Wisdom - Talk 14]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=0.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=80.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, what we have discussed yesterday, I would like to go through some kind of further continuity with that. And at the same time, that whole thing does not become too theoretical, at this point. And discussing the space of the vajradhatu and dharmadhatu, there are some problems exist obviously. Unable to relate with reality properly. And also there is possibilities of spiritual materialism, of all kinds, taking part. And this particular concept we are not discussing the whole thing as the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost principle at all. We are talking purely in terms of basic sense of norm exist, independent of belief, worship. And a basic sense of energy exist, independent of practice, independent of particular norm, or physical law, of any kind. We are just discussing simply the outer space, and space on earth, very simply, that way; metaphorically speaking, that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=132.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we should understand-- in order to understand actually vajrayana, there is much more need to understand nonexistence of God, and the theistic discipline *at all*. Once we begin to relate with trying to coordinate the two principles together, jumble them together: the Buddhist notion of humanistic approach, and theistic tradition of the other approach. That we have-- the birth has given in that level: meeting of the two makes spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=264.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That half of your attention has been paid on the pure existence of your own energy, self-assertion, but half of it based on the level of worship and theistic aspiration, together, which makes things very complicated. And it is been known, and it is be also will be known to a lot of people, gives very bad indigestion. And you can't quite solve the problem. That both situations will become if you-- they are both met; that you have continual diarrhea, at the same time you have constipation at the same time. [Laughter] And equally a lot of strain on your stomach. When you have diarrhea there are a lot of strain on your stomach, as well as when you have constipation, you have a lot of strain on your stomach as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=335.0,399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you put them together, both pains put together, both pains put together, there's a lot of chaos. It is like you would like to give birth to a child, but the child doesn't exist anymore. And that is a problem. That you feel pregnant, and your stomach is bloated, already, but in matter of fact, that you don't have fetus in your stomach. Whole thing is a big hoo-ha. Psychological pregnancy. Which is based on what's known as spiritual materialism this point, is psychological pregnancy, actually not getting getting pregnant properly at all. So you have a conflict of \"that\" and \"this\" put together, somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=399.0,482.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to understand that principle properly, according to the Buddhist approach, that we are definitely discussing here that no births created *at all*, by certain divine power. Not at all. Maybe the Darwinian theory is very Buddhistic theory. That everything stems from cause and effect level. When situation took place, therefore situations got more and more exaggerated continuously; therefore things happened that way. Which is precisely Darwinian theory, is actually we could say Mr. Darwin is a great exponent of abhidharma, from that point of view. That volitional action, of cause and effect mechanism of existence evolved continuously, and evolved further and further *and* further, until the further evolution took place *completely*. Then the possibilities of any possibilities are completely exasperated. At that point there's possibilities of Golden Age, who knows? Or enlightenment of some kind, where the evolution process becomes completely exposed, and reach its fullest level. And which accompanied with all kinds of struggle, at the same time. Political setups of the country and places, that you can't exist in state of harmony without chaos. Little skirmish of warfare, political agitations, are way to strive, way to live, way to continue. So there's no particular problem with that, but that's how whole thing goes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=482.0,642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nonexistence of a divine principle is not regarded as evil particularly. Although it's been said by the believers of it, because they're frightened of it in case somebody mentioned that, embarrassed moment, of some kind of state of truth has been mentioned. If they're truly mystics, even in a theistic tradition they shouldn't be embarrassed, shouldn't be frightened off. They should be able to give up, personally give up that particular kind of trip. That they want to control their congregations by telling them that they are made out of some-- their particular discipline is governed by the sky, and if you don't practice properly, sky is going to drop on you its particular type of bombs. Or roof is going fall on your head, ceiling that matter, the occupant's point of view is going to pour-- fall on your head. If you bad practitioner, that the ceiling is going to kill you by falling chandeliers on your head, or light fixtures on your head, or beams, heavy beams, whatever you have. \"Tchoo!\" [laughter] You been killed, and you be punished by the heaven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=642.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you're a good thing, thingy [laughter], then you're going to be saved; the ceiling is going to provide some kind of exit, there's natural existence of exit that you're going to be saved, you're going to jump up, like a jack in a box. [laughter] Tchoo! You'll be saved. While the other people who are disbelievers are going to be *crushed* on the ground, on your floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=733.0,767.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is precisely in the Buddhist tradition what’s known as primitive beliefs about reality actually. That philosophical perspective has gone wrong, become too literal. It becomes good and bad level, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=767.0,795.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But tonight what we are going to discuss particularly beyond that level, is that in order to understand vajrayana, that you have to understand nontheism properly. And the basic notion of nontheism this point is based on *yourself*. In the tantric mandala perspective, that vajradhatu is outer space, and dharmadhatu is inner, local space. The center of that mandala, who sits, who actually occupies that space, is not that of Jehovah, not that of Vajradhara, or any of the big guys, big chaps, but *you* occupies the center of the space. *You* are in the middle of space. With your ego trip, with your conflictions, with your particular problems, and neurosis, and passion, aggression and ignorance, and jealous, and pride, and all the rest of it. That you are in the middle of that. That *you* actually makes the whole geography of general development. Geography of general development by *you*. You exist in the middle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=795.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might say how about caring the poor people in India and Africa, and sending their ration or some little package? How about being nice to your-- being your neighbor, being polite to them, as well as your roommates? And all the rest of the questions come up about that, of course. But that seem to be a theistic discipline which is *highly* based on *fundamental*, real deception. Where that you cease to believe that you exist in the middle of the world, properly, completely. And you are trying to get off. You are looking for the closest banana peel, so you might be slid over it. You are looking for opportunities to slid over it. And by saying that \"I've been bad boy, bad girl. If I'm good boy-- bad and good girl -- bad girl, good boy, whatever -- I'll be-- I could be good.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=900.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you blame on the goodness or the badness, rather than blame on *yourself*. Which is a *very* dangerous trip, that has developed theistic disciplines. Which always have done that. That the concept has been cheated you-- the expectations been cheating you all the time. Rather than your intelligence can actually work hard and properly, thoroughly, fully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=969.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So *you* sit in the middle of that situation, where you exist as Joe Schmidt. [laughter] You exist, Joe Schmidt, or Carolyn Rose, whatever you have. That you exist in the middle of that particular situation. You can't say that \"everybody's fault, therefore I did bad job on myself.\" And that's one of the problems of theism generally happens, is that there is some kind of blame on the others. \"Because they didn't do so good job, maybe I could do good job.\" But at same time, from other people's point of view you are the other, at the same time, naturally. So other and this, this and other, other and this, keep on going; there's no really *real* focus of anything at all. Scapegoat, of continual scapegoat, is always the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1000.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in this case when we talk about our own ego neurosis, our own existence from the vajrayana's point of view, that you are approaching entirely-- entire angle of this from nontheism. That your ego's not made by anybody else but *you* did it. It's *you* who had it started right at the beginning. It is nobody who condemned you, but you exist because of you. Therefore you try your best to *survive*, but apparently, some reason, that we happen to done bad job of ourselves. And who's to say it's a bad job? It's nobody says it's a bad job, but you begin to feel pain. Begin-- whole thing begin to hurt. That's us to say, \"It hurts. It hurts. It doesn't feel so good. I feel depressed today. I feel terrible. I be hit by somebody. I been kicked out of somebody's vibration. And I have been killed, because I have been not able to handle the situation properly.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1080.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have started that *whole* thing. That the fall of man concept is we have started, and nobody has done so. There's no roaring thunder coming from the sky, or the gigantic speaker, are saying [in a deep voice] \"You have done terrible things!\" [laughter] But we made up the loudspeaker ourselves, and proclaimed God's message. Whatever. Devil's message. The message of the frivolous ones. The message of the *wise* ones, whatever we have. [Sighs] Anyhow... [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1164.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level, there seem to be some need to have some relationship between that and that. Is teacher, who actually stands with you in the middle of the circle. That we have dharmadhatu circle, and we have also vajradhatu circle. And between the two circles -- you -- busy making your life, materialistic life. Either spiritually or psychologically or whatever, materialistic world that you're trying to create. And between the two boundaries, of the dharmadhatu and the vajradhatu, that there is somebody who actually commutes back and forth, so to speak, which is teacher. Who crosses the boundaries very energetically, very powerfully at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1220.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes teachers could create a problem, and sometimes teachers also could create some kind of harmony, at the same time. Because the teacher, in this case in tantric terms what's known as vajra master, who has complete control of the syndicate of the world between dharmadhatu and vajradhatu, together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1293.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to work with that particular syndicate level, that you have your own responsibilities. If you cross the border too fast, you'll be caught, in dealing too much. [Laughter] You haven't paid your duties. You're trying to cheat the, what you call, the...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Customs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1329.0,1356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Customs, that's right, yeah. And the narcotics people will be after you, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1356.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the teacher has control of the both the outer and inner space, both at the same time. As well as have personal contact with you, nevertheless. But however the problem exists between all those areas, is there's need to be some kind of friendship had to developed, and basic command developed. So from this point of view, teacher is not exactly in the center of that particular geography, necessarily. But teacher is sort of hovering, and over above everything, every situation, at all. Therefore it is known as-- teacher is known as the \"vajra master\", who has control of the situation completely, with the outer and inner space, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1373.0,1424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think I should stop talking about that particular issue at this point. And we could discuss more of the devotion and the teacher principle later on. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're highly welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1424.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, at one point you talked about-- when you were talking about Darwin, you mentioned political activities in different countries, skirmishes, as part of the \"survival energy.\" And then later on when you were talking about the mandala principle, and being at the center, and you started talking about the people in India. And you seemed to say that that was not quite the focus. And I'm wondering how the political skirmish fits in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Political skirmish is just purely trying to raid one area or another area, rather than trying to have a general open vision of anything at all. It's very simple. Darwinian theory is truly Buddhistic in some sense. It's pure abhidharma we could say, in some sense. The abhidharma taught the psychological evolution, and then Mr. Darwin taught the physical evolution. Which actually locks together, works together. And obviously a lot of theistic people have reacted terribly onto that. And such reaction extended to not having even ordinary medical treatment, from ordinary physicians. Things like that begin to evolve. And that is the panic of the theist people that they think can't control and they can't still present a real message of God. And Teilhard de Chardin, a French mystic, has tried to do that; tried to mend the two gaps together. But somehow, everything's purely based on a theoretical level rather than actual literal level, properly, even Teilhard de Chardin's approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So would say that he was-- his approach was Buddhistic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Teilhard de Chardin.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well attempt to be reasonable, that's all. Including the Bishop of Woolwich, who wrote a book called HONEST TO GOD, who constantly condemned God. You read the book? Yeah? That's a good book, actually. But somehow, Bishop Robinson has wrote that book, and somehow that even doesn't quite click. And it's too much lip service, of some kind rather than honesty of some kind. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=1455.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68478/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the mahayana path, is there a mandala with a center?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there a mandala in the mahayana path, similar to the one you described in vajrayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the mahayana path there's a highway. There's big plans of cities, rather than a mandala. Which is slightly different. The purely functional level, rather than the feeling of the environment, completely. Yeah. The-- everything's somewhat lineal. If your mahayanist approach of creating city, it'd be a spiral. 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Again, I was watching the discussion groups, which is not quite a-hundred-percent what I've been watching but I just took a peek in several places. And in some sense I was quite disappointed that it was not enough sharing together, and a lot of people just putting their trips into the situation, which is not quite what we supposed to be happening. And hopefully the next discussion period, where everybody would have equal level of contribution, and share experience together, their understandings together, which would be very helpful. Again, needless to say, please pick up your practice, sitting practice situation, as tough as you can. Thank you. Good night's sleep!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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You think you jumped,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2190.11,2194.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but then somehow you\nland yourself on feet,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2194.23,2197.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right next to you.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2198.52,2201.215"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You just jump off a lawn,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2201.215,2202.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from your window,\nwhich is a basement flat.\n[laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2205.9,2214.753"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Thank you. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2216.54,2220.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2220.51,2221.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I think we could\nhalt at this 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Thank you.\nGood night's sleep!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272#t=2274.29,2278.43"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130947/file/245272/transcript/68479/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/068/479/original/19760602VCTR1-Captions-ForVideo.vtt?1720664721","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/068/479/original/19760602VCTR1-Captions-ForVideo.vtt?1720664721"}]}]}]}