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Provides experiential descriptions for how to understand the “hidden truths” and “secret doctrines” associated with mystical traditions. Defines mysticism from the Buddhist point of view as experiencing something extraordinary in our everyday lives. We should view mystical experiences not as something supernatural, per se, but as very real, direct, and to the point. Describes the role of mystical traditions and practice techniques, not as providing a secret password to some hidden truth, but as helping us develop certain behaviors so we can handle “deeper experiences.” Provides detailed descriptions of the deep connections between mysticism and the symbolism of the mandala in tantric Buddhism. Lively Q\u0026amp;A covers a range of topics related to insight, tantric practice, and how to understand reality.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 24 2020 to Feb 12 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eWide-ranging presentation on mysticism, with particular focus on the Tibetan Buddhist perspective. Provides experiential descriptions for how to understand the \u0026ldquo;hidden truths\u0026rdquo; and \u0026ldquo;secret doctrines\u0026rdquo; associated with mystical traditions. Defines mysticism from the Buddhist point of view as experiencing something extraordinary in our everyday lives. We should view mystical experiences not as something supernatural, per se, but as very real, direct, and to the point. Describes the role of mystical traditions and practice techniques, not as providing a secret password to some hidden truth, but as helping us develop certain behaviors so we can handle \u0026ldquo;deeper experiences.\u0026rdquo; Provides detailed descriptions of the deep connections between mysticism and the symbolism of the mandala in tantric Buddhism. Lively Q\u0026amp;A covers a range of topics related to insight, tantric practice, and how to understand reality.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/578/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759347032","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-l9yakp.mpga"]},"duration":2925.55755,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/578/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759347032","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/578/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-l9yakp.mpga?1759343543","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2925.55755,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740418VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19740418VCTR1 - University of Colorado -1974 - Boulder - Spring 1974 - Class 9]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes, 1974, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is class number nine, the Tibetan Buddhist Approach to Mysticism held April 18th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Talk by Chogyam Trungpa at the University of Colorado, April 18th, 1974. The Tibetan Buddhist Approach to Mysticism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As tonight's discussions on approach to mysticism, it seems that we have to look at the question very intelligently. There are different mystical schools and mystical approaches. That one category is the notion of trying to find the hidden truth. And the other notion is seems to be trying to expose the hiddenness of the truth. So notion to trying to find the hidden truth or else trying to uncover the-- that which is hidden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=35.0,121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first one is actually dealing with the letting oneself be swept or absorbed or sucked in in the notion of the hidden quality. That you are willing to go along with that particular style. And the other one is that even the question that if there's such thing as a hidden truth at all. That you don't regard truth as hidden but as open one. And you ask the question and you get-- you begin to develop skeptical attitude towards the hiddenness of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=121.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question here is that, what do we mean by \"secret\" and \"the secret doctrine\"? Secret because that, if you heard the secret, that it will cause your destruction, or it'll cause you confusion. Therefore, it is not safe for you to hear the truth. And the other notion is that the truth has been taught anyway. It's open feast. If you are not up to it, you don't understand it. It is self secret. On the other hand, if you're up to it, you understand it. It's also open secret at the same time. That seem to be the style and technique, approach, which is generally developed in presenting deeper understanding of spiritual experiences. So, according to the Buddhism, maybe you have already guessed that the Buddhist approach towards mysticism questions the notion of secretness. Is it necessary at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=176.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the basic definition of mysticism at all, is question of experiencing something extraordinary in our everyday life, particularly, as well as within the practice of all kinds of traditions that you’re involved. That traditions begin to help us in our manner or behavior of certain mode that will give us how to handle the deeper experiences. But not in a sense of that the techniques and manners and behavior means that it was taught to us are supposedly uncovering secret passwords particularly. And mystical experiences, whether it is connected with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, American Indian, or Bon tradition of pre-Buddhist Tibet, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=326.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the question is not so much to that because it is so *remote*, therefore, it is mystical. It is not so mysterious; therefore it is mystical. But mystical experience, from that point of view, is what is real, in fact, rather than supernormal from that point of view. I think, ultimately, fundamentally, all the schools of mystical experience, mystical traditions would agree at once that mystical experiences, whatever they are, they are direct to the point. They are very real, absolutely real. And the problem that we come up is that we cannot handle reality regularly, ordinary. That we have trouble with that problem all the time, usually we have. That we would like to pass the naked truth, which is too overwhelming. That instead we would look for method and means; we would like to borrow pair of pliers and gloves so that we could handle the naked facts, naked truth. That we could save ourself from that kind of embarrassment. That has become the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=431.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mystical experience is usually related with discovering the God, discovering the utmost meaning of life, the innermost essence of everything. According to Buddhist way of looking at this whole process is that mystical experience cannot occur to us unless that we have some kind of trust that the ordinary world that we're experiencing is already a self-existing mystical experience. At the same level as the cats and dogs and cows might have experienced their world around them. So that cause for becoming super-ordinary, supernormal, that has the basic mystical experience is that we fail to become super-ordinary and supernormal. That we have looked for extraordinary, that we miss the target, we're shooting too high.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=564.0,674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, from that point of view, we could say that you can't search for mystical experiences, but mystical experience should come to *us* at matter of fact. The greenness of grass, the blueness of sky, it does not need scientific explanation or theological explanation. But they are as they are quite simply. They are there; the grass is green, sky is blue, clouds are white. It is very ordinary. At matter of fact, there's nothing [laughing] spiritual about that particularly at all. It's a fact of life. If you didn't look left and right, right and left before cross the street, quite possibly we might get run over by a car. [laughs] There's nothing spiritual about that particularly. But the mystical experience do occur to us occasionally, those who are unfortunate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=674.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you constantly eat too much, you get fat. If you have the wrong diet, you get either constipated or you have diarrhea. There is mystical experience for you. [Laughter; laughs] It's not sacrilegious, it's true. [Laughter] If we are half an hour late or two hours earlier to our appointment, we are late and we’re early. That is a mystical experience. It actually happened, very precisely, very directly. It takes place in a very simple way. And it occurred to us that that is the case. There's a reminder, there is picture, there's relationship, reference all around us. That what we have get involves ourselves this very moment is a spokesman of \"that is.\" Whatever \"that is\" may be, however.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=803.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are talking about, according to the Buddhist way of looking at the mysticism, is we are looking at the precision and the presence, and precision and presence that things do occured right here at this very moment. In the tantric tradition, it talks about the-- in the symbolism of a mandala, which is the Buddhist approach to mystical experiences are being that mandala is formed by having twelve months in a year and four seasons in a year. Having day and night, having twelve hours, having parents, father and mother. And, also, most important one of all is experiencing yourself, your own experience of pain and pleasure. Either you have a happy childhood or very sad one, or mediocre. That you are maybe completely fucked up person, psychologically, as you grow up or that you are relatively okay. All those interplays. Lack of money, too much money, plenty of money. Chance to have good food and failing to get the right diet. Absolutely healthy or spending one's life constantly commuting between hospitals and home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=889.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All those facts of life are known as mandala perspective. And mandala is because they all relate with each other that not only that if you are happy or sad in your life alone, but the happy and sadness is also related with the prospective situations around you. That people who caused you happiness and people who cause you sadness at the same time. So there is a lineal level that expanded from the center to the fringe, to the edge. That you have one dot of statement in your life, and out of that all rest of the diagrams be built. And the radiations be built. That your life is unified as where you are now, right this moment. And that is caused by expectations of the future and the concept of the past, and maybe uncertainty of the present. Those are all included in that particular big realm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1043.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tantric practitioners usually find that this is very exciting, extremely exciting. That there is a self-existing geography already involved. That is to say that you are able to constantly relate with what's there on the dot in the middle of that particular mandala spectrum. This moment right here. That mystical experience occurred to you by trying to entertain your guests. And fear of that your guests might be bored or they might hassle you, and your omelette got stuck on your pan and turn out not so good omelette. Simple little things you might think those things are really insignificant. Those are-- belongs to the world of mundane realm, the ordinary realm. But, however, those little, simple things, little details like that makes enormous sense. Those are the little crumbs, which becomes the atomic essence of mystical experience. As your life developed, those small things make-- becomes big deal as you go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1142.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So mysticism, from that point of view, is experiencing the facts of life thoroughly and fully and completely. That practicing visualizations or mantras or whatever techniques that you might have, those are not particularly extraordinary; those are purely expressions of your details of everyday life which becomes meaningful to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1290.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mystical experience is supposed to be profound experience, out of the ordinary. That there is a constant profound experience out of the ordinary happens all the time. That one never compare one's life identical to yesterday. There's constant slight variations, maybe slight distortions, slight extension, maybe slight simplifications taking place constantly in one's life. And such experience of precision and directness and accuracy seem to be the basic idea of mysticism from that point of view. And we might call this particular experience is practical mysticism or instructive mysticism. It is practical, because it is workable. It is instructive, because it is always available to us all the time. And we are not sitting around in the coffee table and discussing about possible future visions of seeing the god himself. Or we are not talking about how to change this world by our miracle development; we are not speculating the world anymore. We are actually experiencing this world properly, thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1331.0,1449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the one of the essence of tantra actually. Also regarded as mystical school of Buddhism, is the facts of life are very sharp and very precise and direct. That if you reject it, it destroys you; if you accept it, it brings you enormous bliss. Because you finally begin to realize that you can relate with universe in its own place properly, thoroughly, precisely, directly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1449.0,1492.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, at the same time, ironically, this kind of mysticism is trying to devoid from the mysteriousness. But experiencing things as they are, precisely, directly. And that seem to be the purpose and meaning and disciplines that has developed throughout the tradition—practice of meditation, meditation in action, all kinds of processes that we might go through and develop. And developing those which sharpens the acceptance of what is happening at that very moment in our everyday life situation. And it becomes very clear and thorough and extremely magical, at matter of fact. That every experience we have in this life has triple meaning, double meaning, multiple meanings. But not contradictory. They are one perspective, which is seen in all kinds of ways, all kinds of different areas. So that's why the mysticism of this particular approach is no longer mysterious, but it is definite and direct and further reminder to see that things as they are. With that experience is called suchness, rediscovering mandala within oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you like, we could have a discussion about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1492.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I often hear you use the term \"real.\" You say \"this is reality\" or \"mysticism is the ability to see reality and accept it as truth.\" Doesn't this imply some kind of a definition by somebody of what reality is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't get much chance if you are actually real enough, your experience is real enough. That if you put your finger on electrical ring, which is a-- has a beautiful orange color on it, and you think maybe you are hallucinating or maybe you're experiencing real. And, if you put your finger on it, you get burnt by the beauty of the orange glow. Which doesn't need any philosophical speculation, metaphysical definition at all. It's-- you just get burnt; you just get hurt.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see, more we discuss about, \"What is meaning of reality?\" that we seem to get away from it constantly. And, “What is purpose of life?\" When we talk more about it, that we lose purpose of life by we waste so much time by discussing the purpose of life, actually, rather than actually fulfilling in the whole thing. So it's very immediate actually. That's why it is known as mystical experience. It's very direct and very real, which doesn't need vocabularies as such. No grammar is necessary. But it is there precisely, and it is devoid of language, in fact. That's why it is known as mystical. It does not need language; that's why it is mystical. That's why it is been said it is ineffable. [laughs] Putting your hand, putting your finger on electric ring is ineffable experience, mystical experience. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But still, you find yourself in a position of having like to describe it. You have to use the word \"real\" with something like this, and isn't that-- doesn't that put a kind of condition to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems, particularly. You can't discuss it unless somebody had experience it. That's why it is called a secret, and hidden doctrine, whatever. You can discuss with somebody who had experienced this reality, but you cannot discuss with someone who hadn't experienced this reality. Because it is very personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1636.0,1849.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yet, you say that you can't discuss it with someone who hasn't experienced it. Yet, all of us have put our hand in a fire or something like that. Everybody has had that sort of experience. What do you mean by \"someone who's experienced?\" All of us have experienced that, the pain of putting your hand in the fire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then [laughs] the point is that have you able to understand that. Not only because it's dangerous, not only it is no-no, but have we actually experienced putting our hand in the fire, and it's significant completely. And that's the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [UNCLEAR: So you mean?] fully experience it with [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fully experiencing, yes. It's a very-- it's full significant. It's a mystical experiences of the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1849.0,1914.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You said that in one experience there's many meanings, multiple meanings. But these meanings aren't contradictory. Is that-- does that fact allow for the person not to feel swamped by all these aspects or that he finds the situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, those experience have lineal conclusions or some kind of geography that you seen already. You might see different aspect of sun, the rising of the sun and the setting of the sun and its fertility, its light, its temperature, and all kinds of things. But, at the same time, it becomes the same thing. So, if you have some experience of sun, as such, sun produces darkness because sun sets. And, when sun sets there's darkness. And the sun produces also light, because we could see each other in the sunlight. And sun is destructive and creative at the same time. So, if you are trying to tell somebody the story of the sun to someone who had never experienced, it sounds so trippy and contradictory at the same time. And it's too vast subject to talk about. But once we experience the sun as it is, then it all makes sense. Same kind of situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: With approaching that energy of say, contradiction, and using contradiction as the sun and since we've all experienced contradiction, could you could get the essence of contradiction and find different aspects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, contradiction is a relative reference. That you-- in order to prove one truth, you have the opposite of the truth to prove that truth. Otherwise, you can't prove.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=1914.0,2048.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said that if we accept the truth, I think that's what you said, accept the truth, then it's the-- it's bliss, and, if we reject it we destroy it. Is that like the only two possibilities, either total bliss or total destruction? Is there a place for mediocrity? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. [Laughter] Well, it's like force of nature. Any experience our life, you can't modify your experience; you can't save them for the future. You have experience or you don't have experience. I mean, that's why it is becoming mystical, because you can lose that particular essence then you end up in pain or bliss, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2048.0,2127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I was going to ask you the same thing though. It sounded like you were joking when you said that. I mean, do you really mean it? Do you really have to either accept or reject? I thought the whole truth is not to do either.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole thing may be joke. But, at the same time, the joke mean it. 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If one were to experience pain from some experience, would that be a kind of indulgence in order to prove one's point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's ordinary natural process. That then you want to prove that experience, which we actually produces pain. That some point one tend to give up, give in, in the trying to prove.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Proof is maintaining the pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to prove maintains pain. Which is that you are uncomfortable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2166.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Do you think that the more people get into all of these speculations and questions the further they get from the point anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends. If the search is to gain something, obviously, you get far from truth. If the search is to make friends with what you experienced, then you get close to it. In other word, the object of search has become a foreign entity or a part of you. When you regard it as a foreign entity, then you become away from it. A foreign entity in the sense that you want to find out what is all about. 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It would just be making friends with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all. You might exaggerate the pain for that matter. [laughs] That's good news.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2310.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I'm having trouble with trying to figure out how to do or how to relate to things just as they are. It's like you said, you know, you have to accept the ordinary as being the truth. And, like, is it just like not expecting or, I think, it's not laying things on it more than that they’re there. But how do you know when you're looking at something just as it is in its \"suchness\" without putting things on it? 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Like, it seems like there's some things that you could say would be better not to do--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the point is, as long as you're involved with that kind of exploration, nothing can go wrong, because exploration is a part of your inquisitive mind, which is an expression of your potentialities anyway. Nothing can go wrong. Absolutely safe if you like to put it that [laughing] way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You can just keep trying, trying to figure it out--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, even I wouldn't say trying -- keep doing. [laughs] Rather than trying. I mean, that's the precisely the tantric technique of repeating mantras over and over and over again is not *trying* it but *doing* it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So, like, when you go along in everyday life, you don't happen-- you don't worry about whether you're putting things on it; you just sort of do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you can worry intellectually to be safe and secure that you are reasonable, I suppose. But, on the other hand, intuitively you don't ask questions. But you want just experience what is there. 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Then you actually see the sun is there, and you just work along with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2533.0,2574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Could you explain your-- the way you spoke of tantra so far, to your understanding of tantric yoga, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's what we have been talking tonight actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, sort of, like, what happens during tantric yoga. How do explain it intellectually?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in-- I don't know intellectually exactly, but you experience the reality as it is, and you learn to dance with it without any fear. That's the essence of tantric experience of relating with your sadhana, your practice and everything. That the reality becomes your consort, and your awareness becomes yourself. So the question of dancing together, and the music that you dance together is a sense of celebration. That nothing can go wrong, because for the very fact you have nothing to lose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then why is it so dangerous then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you could do superficial form of that, and you could trick yourself. Don't you think that's dangerous? Well, you can get-- you could dance to the wrong rhythm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What's the wrong rhythm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you're regressing yourself into being an infant. And deluding yourself, and your intelligence is regressed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That couldn't happen with a spiritual friend though, could it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you can't practice tantra without a spiritual friend. Therefore, if you have spiritual friend, you have a proper tantric master at the same time. You remember? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2574.0,2728.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends-- okay there's another question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In much of Western literature throughout the ages, there's descriptions of things which are termed by people as mystical experiences. Usually some type of experience is described as someone saying that they had had a moment where they experienced something like their whole life going by in front of their eyes or something at certain moments, you know, descriptions by people like saints. Where does this type of experience fit into the-- this Buddhist idea of practical mysticism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's same thing actually. That if you see somebody is smoking a cigarette meaningfully, and you get a mystical experience, [laughter] and your whole life could change with that particular glimpse. Somebody smoking a cigarette meaningfully. [Laughter] It's very simple. And you could might write your diary by saying, \"I saw angel smoking cigarettes [laughter] or carrying incense.\" \"I saw the Christ himself.\" Whatever, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2728.0,2811.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85063/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we should have our discussion period this point. And it seems that we have only one more session to go. And I would like to encourage the students that compile-- if you have any questions of the previous talks and the lectures that you have listened, that I would encourage you to compile or maybe take notes of what would you like to try to relate with the whole thing what we discuss combined together in unity. So, hopefully, next time when we get together, which will be last time, is that I would like to devote more time in the discussion period than me giving talk particularly. So keep that in mind, and if you have-- if you feel that there is certain things had to be clarified, keep that in mind and let's bring up next time together.\r\n\r\n\r\nAs far as new information is concerned, I think this is last time that we are doing this. And next time is just trying to edited the whole thing. So, if you have any questions of that nature and contradictions and misunderstandings, whatever, in connected with the past weeks and weeks of our discussion and talk, so please bring it up. I would like to encourage you to do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd now we should get into discussion period.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=2811.0,2925.55755"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740418VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=0.52,4.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Colorado classes,\n1974, held in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=4.2,9.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number nine,\nthe Tibetan Buddhist Approach\nto Mysticism\nheld April 18th, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=9.36,17.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP\ndigital remaster made May 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=17.91,22.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Talk by\nChogyam Trungpa\nat the University of Colorado,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=22.89,25.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"April 18th, 1974.\nThe Tibetan Buddhist Approach\nto Mysticism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578#t=25.45,31.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161729/file/293578/transcript/85064/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As tonight's\ndiscussions on approach\nto 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