{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/0k2697186h/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-07-07: Tibetan Book of the Dead II: Talk 3: Shunyata and Buddha Nature"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-07-07"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Rocky Mountain Dharma Center (RMDC), Red Feather Lakes, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/395/show\"\u003eTibetan Book of the Dead II\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 3: Shunyata and Buddha Nature"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Death and Dying","Buddhist Mahayana"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA clear, accessible talk about approach to death and impermanence in mahayana. In hinayana, view is of basic discontinuity and impermanence, whereas in mahayana these realities are experienced on more absolute level, as shunyata or emptiness, tathagatagarbha or buddha nature. Discontinuity in life and the bardo allow us to experience both. Importance of non-existence of self as doorway to buddha nature, emptiness. How we are haunted by presence of insubstantiality, despite our strivings for opposite. Luminosity always in background. Describes mahayana approach to death as \"extremely positive\", if we cultivate experience of emptiness, buddha nature. A logical philosophical discussion of \"nothingness\" as not a \"void\" but powerful \"entity.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, describes how to work with perceived threat or \"hopelessness\" of emptiness and buddha nature. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNov 21 2018 to Dec 08 2023 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA clear, accessible talk about approach to death and impermanence in mahayana. In hinayana, view is of basic discontinuity and impermanence, whereas in mahayana these realities are experienced on more absolute level, as shunyata or emptiness, tathagatagarbha or buddha nature. Discontinuity in life and the bardo allow us to experience both. Importance of non-existence of self as doorway to buddha nature, emptiness. How we are haunted by presence of insubstantiality, despite our strivings for opposite. Luminosity always in background. Describes mahayana approach to death as \"extremely positive\", if we cultivate experience of emptiness, buddha nature. A logical philosophical discussion of \"nothingness\" as not a \"void\" but powerful \"entity.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, describes how to work with perceived threat or \"hopelessness\" of emptiness and buddha nature.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/752/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357175","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1702357150_19730707VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3444.271,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/752/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357175","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/219/752/original/1702357150_19730707VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1702357153","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3444.271,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730707VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730707VCTR1 - Public Seminar - RMDC - Tibetan Book of the Dead - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Book of the Dead II, given at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, in Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. This is Talk 3 given on July 7th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto Remaster made November 2023","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=0.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The matter of things we are going to discuss in this particular seminar connected with basically that there is no substance of our being. And our being is conditioned by time and space. And that time and space are fundamentally based on the idea of, or rather existence of non-substantiality, or transitoriness. And because that there is a sense of non-substantiality and transitoriness, therefore the perceptions can be luminous. And, therefore the inspiration become more precise and workable -- because of the whole thing is based on discontinuity, of understanding death and its meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=33.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, from that point of view, that we might say that there’s also the sense of continuity at the same time. And that continuity is based on a transparent continuity. Transparent continuity. That notion of transparent continuity is based on awake, clear-cut, dawn, sunrise, full moon, amongst all kinds of metaphysical, or metaphorical, examples. That our basic continuity from that point of view is no other than that there is no reference point: \"how and why\", \"what\", and so forth. And from that point of view we could say, the mahayanist approach to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, or the mahayana’s point of view of the *death* is concerned, is approached towards promise, heroism, love and light. [laughs; laughter] Constant promises of all kinds. Because there’s some continuity, which is based on discontinuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=140.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As the story tells us, Shankara had a debate with the Buddhist masters. That Buddhist masters trying to prove that impermanence and discontinuity's being important. And Shankara has proved that discontinuity is also based on continuity; discontinuity cannot exist without basic ground. So maybe Shankara’s approach, or the Hindu approach of continuity, is too much influenced by that of tantra -- tantric approach to continuity. Or rather than simpleminded person of continuity, which means that we could survive, could take pleasure in our sensual experiences; that we could survive, we could become universal monarch, become great conqueror, and that we could achieve some state of pleasure-seeking realm. In terms of fundamentally, that we being seduced into mystical experience, or same as animal instinct. Accordance with Omar Khayyam, that whole world is \"the world of wine\": \"Book of verse/jug of wine/thou beside me.\" And that seem to be the-- *another* conclusion to reality but in fact, questionable reality. So therefore we cannot say it is a reality, but it is more or less a second thought towards reality, that what reality should be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=271.0,458.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The mahayanist's approach towards death and discontinuity is extremely positive one. That you have a basic substance to relate with the discontinuity, which is known as \"buddha nature\" or \"tathagatagarbha\". That tathagatagarbha or buddha nature is the basic continuity of *intelligence*, which relates with the sense of discontinuity in its absolute level. And also, basic discontinuity of death contains a sense of wholesome, sense of fullness. In a manner of speaking, we could say that full moon is so full, it is approaching to a new moon. The black is equally white; white is equally black. Light is equally dark, dark is equally light, so forth. That whenever there’s something full, something complete, that that particular thing does not have any reference, does not *need* any reference point of view at all. Because it is complete in its own way. There’s no need for reference point of view, at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=458.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CHILD IN THE AUDIENCE: I’m over there too! I'm over here. Come over! I'm over here! I'm over my [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=569.0,607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahayanist approach to life and death and discontinuity from that point of view are not regarded as sybaritic approach to life. That you have greater vision, you have greater pleasure, you have greater love, therefore everything’s going to be okay. One of the deathly messages of Mahayana Buddhism, mahayana’s approach to enlightenment, and death, and bardo state is concerned, that devastating message of shunyata, emptiness, which is extremely devastating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=607.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably you think that it's not-- couldn’t be all that big deal. But it *is*, actually. You’d be surprised [laughter]. It is devastating because it knows no limit. The basic principle of shunyata is concerned, that shunyata means: “shunya” means “empty,” “nothing,” “void”. “Ta” means “ness.” Emptiness or voidness, absentness. That there is *entity* of nothingness that does exist, in our experience, that \"nothingness\" is not regarded as -- \"nothing\" is not regarded as just purely free fresh air, so we do not have to relate with it anymore, at all. But nothing come-- accompanies with nothing*ness*, which means that there’s some kind of trip, shall we say, or some kind of *heavy-handedness* happens at the same time. So \"nothing\" is very powerfully nothing, extraordinary nothing. So therefore, it begin to hit us; we begin to feel that it is extraordinary powerful that we do not exist, we don’t have any credentials, any entities of our existence. But that is *real* thing rather than going out of the-- going out of your house and you don’t find that there’s nothing waiting for you. But there is mysterious entity is waiting for you. Somebody rings doorbell, and you open the door, and there’s nobody. It’s extremely haunting. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=660.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's why shunyata principle, is very haunting. There is a basic principle, there is a basic entity, shall we say -- almost we could say \"entity\" -- which is making mockery of ourselves. Directly embarrassing our way of existing. That you thought we existed, then how about this, how you handle this? Without any reference point of view. And if you come to us-- if enemy come to us without reference point, whether enemy is friend or enemy, we are completely lost. That we do not know how to handle this stranger, that stranger, that strange intruder. Because we cannot put that particular person into pigeonholes of belonging to the enemy, that of-- because that person is our relative, or that person is our friend, or that person is salesman. That we have no reference point; that enemy enters into our doorstep. And we have no reference point at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=780.0,856.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So at the same time, that shunyata experience of nothingness, non-existence of our basic being, is not particularly regarded as enemy. It is also regarded as a friend. Friend who tells you that you do not exist. You are absolutely worthless. That there’s no point in even discussing the whole point. Because it’s-- whole thing is out in the open, and nobody’s bothered about that principle, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=856.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we begin to probably feel-- if you’re great artist, great musician, great sculptor, great professor, or if you have ambitions of all of those \"I want to prove myself,\" we feel extremely threatened. \"Somebody’s trying to communicate to me, but they don’t tell me who they are.\" Tremendous insult. You decide to call to the police, or your social security guard, and, \"There’s something threatening me. Can you look out for that threat?\" And they begin to tell-- ask you, \"Who that person? How, or-- descriptive, can you give a descriptive person? Does person had a-- does person wear black shoe, hat? What kind of clothes that person wears?\" And to tell you the truth, that person does not exist. And that is just *being*, the vibration of that existence is begin to haunt me. Can you look for that such person? You have no defense mechanism at all. It’s very scary. Only defense mechanism you have is your own fear. You can’t talk to the guards. You can’t relate with the pigeonhole situations of anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=912.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a sense of death, sense of a threat, at the same time. But the sense of a threat is at the same time, also happens to be sense of *promise*, strangely enough. It gives us something to work on. Kill our boredom. Something that we can-- couldn’t find, including Charlotte Holme [ed: Sherlock Holmes], Charlie Chan, whoever you have. It’s beyond their limited detective work. And we find ourselves helpless. In fact, we do not know whether that mysterious caller is friend or enemy, at all. But, at the same time that mysterious caller, mysterious guest, happens to be -- whether you believe or not -- your own tathagatagarbha, your own buddha instinct, calling you back. Asking your relationship, acceptance -- whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1050.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the very outrageous message of shunyata principle, is that there’s nothing to relate, nothing to work, and there’s no perceptions in which that we could put that situation into categories, anything at all. But it *is* there; definitely so. So we cannot handle it from ordinary, conceptualized level at all. That this thing could be-- or we call it \"he\" or \"she,\" but even that doesn’t seem to be suitable title, since we do not know what *is*. It could be crocodile, dinosaurs, grandparents [laughter], your dead wife, dead husband, haunting spiritual master, whatever. That’s not the point. That who they are not seem to be point. And the point is that we are haunted by our own perceptions. That we bounce back something, that we are purely working with our boundary in relating with the space. And that boundary begin haunt us back, rather than space or the perceptions or whatever. So there’s a sense of-- *some* sense of mysteriousness of course, but at the same time, that haunt-- the haunter, so to speak, is non-existent entity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1160.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which gives us tremendous *fear*. That since we do not find existence or being to relate with us, we do not how to handle that situation. And the more we try to relate with that situation which means we have to give up more of our clue, preconceptions, to relate with that situation. So we could say in the mahayanist point of view of shunyata principle is that’s one of the most fierce, most terrifying experience of all. That we do not find we could relate with the death is basic point, at all. That we find relating with the death as mysteriousness. Very mysterious. That bodhisattvas, such like, could perform their actions of generosity, discipline, patience, energy, meditation, and prajna, knowledge. Even going through all those process that doesn’t solve that problems of unknown entity that hovering, haunting us, uncertain. The mahayanist point of view of death is concerned is that we have related with tathagatagarbha, basic instinct of acknowledging ourselves as being buddha intelligent potentials. But having took-- having taken such a vow, such a commitment into the practice and discipline, we probably suspect-- *expect* something more pleasurable, something more pleasant, more promising. That the message which says that you are already bodhisattva, you already would-be buddhas. Therefore we would like to join our party tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1262.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same time, without any celebration, without any big deal about it, that begin to bother us as well-- bother us, as well. Because that there is no-- nobody tells me that you are bodhisattva, you are involved with Buddhist path of mahayana, that you begin to get your credentials out of that. Day-to-day living becomes monotonous. But something happens. We are haunted by ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1401.0,1448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the hinayana level, that we feel very happy. Relatively speaking, we feel good; at least we could work with some kind of logic. The death means impermanent, impermanent goes out all the time. Time, space is manifestation of death and birth -- whole thing happens very smoothly. Logically follows one after another: fickleness of our thought is discontinuity, and we have no reference point of view. But this point, it becomes much more haunted, because even we can’t use those logic. That there is some haunting and some kind of intelligence which begin to follow us, constantly, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1448.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if we go to the spiritualist in seance, you present your problem. Somebody goes through a trance in a spiritualistic-- spiritualist's circle of seance. That somebody goes through trance, and if you present your problem, they begin to say -- probably, quite possibly, this is hypothetical idea -- and they say that \"You had a Chinese teacher. And I see this person wearing yellow robe and has long mustache. And he was trying to communicate with you.\" Or else \"there’s Indian master wearing feathers and headdress, and trying to communicate with you. His name is so-and-so. That he recognize you as-- that his descendant, he’s going to communicate you.\" Or \"*Tibetan* master, also wearing a white hat, yellow hat, wearing robes and trying to say that you are going to be my next student. I be trying to communicate to you for long time. And I’m glad that you are able to communicate with me.\" [Laughter] The usually, the medium, the media, the person goes through a trance and speaks pidgin English. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1496.0,1616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Looking through all the possibilities of trying to find out what that haunting situation is all about. That because, \"I cannot relate with my life, I cannot relate with my conclusions. There’s *something’s* happening. Maybe it’s my guilt conflict. Maybe that I divorce my husband very cruelly, or my wife very cruelly. I couldn’t handle those situations. And maybe I rejected my grandfather, or my parents, my good friend.\" Person could get in all kinds of situations like that. But nevertheless, to your surprise it’s very simple fact: nobody’s haunting you, at all. It’s the fundamental... in fact almost we could say it’s the transcendental embarrassment. Cosmic embarrassment. That you be working for long time, trying to find some basic meaning of what you are doing is right. You be questioning constantly all along. You throw the I Ching, you consult with your good friends, or whatever, or even people not involved with that scene. You be thinking about a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1616.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There’s some kind of basic thing that some of basic sanity is mysterious. Unnameable, unspeakable. But at the same time, something happens our life that, \"are we, am I losing my mind? Am I going to freak out? Or I’m just about to get into some kind of point of reference in which that which my intelligence, my enlightenment just about to dawn on me.\" Certain situation could happen but that seem to be the-- one of the basic expression of shunyata, in the personal, experiential level, pragmatic level, tend to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1714.0,1765.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And actually you’re experiencing your promise of death, that you be so fortunate that you can die. That you’re one of those situation that you’re conditioned your-- into this world. That you are bounded by this law of death, rather than you might fear that you cannot sleep. You have to take tranquilizers to get through your day. And you have to exist your life constantly on and on, by trying to entertain yourself constantly. But you have message that you are conditioned by death, you are dead -- dying *constantly* all the time. Which is a very horrific discovery. That is tathagatagarbha. That is the enlightenment, sudden experience happening. That experience of death provides a gap that you cannot strategize your possible ideas of how to survive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1765.0,1836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The bodhisattva's approach towards death and bardo experience is non-existence with their being. That they be haunted by even tathagatagarbha experience. There’s nothing to hang on to, all these messages become real. And that seem to be the starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1836.0,1857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I prefer that every evening, I would like to introduce one particular topic, that you could relate with it. So that probably, we should stop this point. And buddha nature to a lot of people, including a lot of Zen students, that people relate to buddha nature as being *extraordinary* pleasurable situation. You solve all your problems of a koan, to start with. [laughs] And you begin to get some answers why you're sitting, bear your pain of sitting upright on a black cushion, is be answered. That buddha nature is begin to dawn on you. And you have tremendous promise to become a roshi. [laughter] And such situation seem to be very dreamy at this point. If mahayana’s approach towards death and bardo could be experienced properly, it is very grim. It is as good as black, as good as white. And maybe that Zen tradition, that black user is a status symbol of sitting meditation, have something to do with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. We could have discussions on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think you have to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1857.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: This haunting feeling you’re talking about, is-- are you talking about before physical death as well as during or after it? Or were you referring to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think is continuity of while you exist, while you’re going through the discipline, you’re practicing, your work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How can you tell a tathagatagarbha from a hungry ghost?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tathagatagarbha’s more threatening than hungry ghost. [laughter] Because hungry ghost is more entertaining, because you like your trip. Tathagatagarbha is very harsh.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And never fully apparent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Completely apparent; therefore, it’s more harsh. It’s too irritant to be realistic. But it *is* reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=1951.0,2008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is there such a thing as positive shunyata from the point of view of mahayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is, but probably we could start with that way, is best. We're preparing the ground for the positive shunyata. Which is a bodhisattva’s path. But positive path of shunyata is based on the negative. Because without that, there is no basic ground, relative reference to work with. And basic shunyata principle is based on the cutting down, cutting through. And some point we begin to relate with the sword, that which cut us through. And that seem to be the positive reference of shunyata, is the-- we begin to respect the sword that which cut us through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2008.0,2071.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is this-- is the haunting feeling sort of give-- create a basic ground for hopelessness or feeling totally helpless? Such--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it gives a basic ground to realize that you don’t have any basic ground to hang onto, sure. Yeah, definitely. And bound to be.[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2071.0,2103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What are the mahayana principle in reincarnation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahayana principle of reincarnation is that nothing reincarnate. There is no rebirth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Of any part of the body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Body?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Uh, mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What are you trying to mean by that anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The mind had to go through a process of realizing that you don’t have mind anymore. That may be said as rebirth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2103.0,2145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How is the idea that shunyata is very grim and harsh, how does that relate to the Buddha’s noble truths about life being suffering, and that there being a way through, or past, or beyond this suffering, through the realization of buddha nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the realization and of any promise is based on that harshness. Because even promises are regarded as a big joke, in some way. That you-- if you’re attracted to the promises, you fall your way through. You cannot attain your enlightenment. So the basic idea of bodhisattva path is that only way to attain enlightenment is to renounce enlightenment itself, which is that you’re acknowledge-- you’re willing to jump at the cliff.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And that what is grim and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it-- I mean, you see it’s grim, but at same time it’s very delightful at the same time. You know, if you’re going to do a parachute... Can we take example? That it’s terribly grim, and jumping yourself into cliff is not going to be fun. But once you acknowledge that, you begin to jump off cliff. And you may experience some kind of experience of spaciousness and fantastically, you can play with the air, without any ground to work with. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2145.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, what-- it seems that the-- I mean even the implication that, you know, you discover that you might not exist is horrifying. You know, even the barest implication. Who is it who’s horrified at that point? I mean if somehow there’s a feeling, a realization of non-existence, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the concept is horrified. At that point, you don’t have any conceptualiz*er* of the concept, that conceptualizer *is* the concept. The concept got horrified. Rather than conceptualiz*er* -- that’s not exist at that point, at all. Conceptualizer is also same as concept, at this-- at that point. In other words saying the hunter is the gun, at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is what you’re-- the grim situation you’re describing, I can’t see it as any different than simply the realization of your own physical death. Like if you were confronted suddenly by the possibility of your own physical death. Is this just the same thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Rings gong] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2239.0,2342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When our being is threatened, is that always an encounter--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When our being?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah. When I feel threatened.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You feel threatened? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I’m asking whether that’s an encounter with buddha nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Being threatened?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Not right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, well, why did you say? What is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When I am. When I *do* feel a threat coming in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah that is-- in fact, we could say by innuendo that we are in touch with buddha nature. Reason why it is by innuendo is because that we have-- still, we’re trying to *survive* from that threat all along. That we have a sense of hopelessness, at the same time, but we have a sense of that we could manipulate-- we might be able to manipulate that particular experience. But at the same time, it is by innuendo. It connected with tathagatagarbha, buddha nature, yeah. I mean that’s why the buddha nature is not regarded as a mythical experience, but it is *real*. That we could experience all the time, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2342.0,2442.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How would the experience have less innuendo? How would it be less by innuendo?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t think we are discussing how we do that, are we?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, I’m just wondering. What would the experience be? Not how to get it, what the experience be like that has less innuendo? I was trying to find out what the innuendo was in that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, innuendo is that we are embarrassed by asking the *real* questions. Like instead of saying that \"do you want to get married to me,\" instead of saying, \"do you like me?\" Which is very tricky. That we are not actually saying the word, but we are *implying* that possibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2442.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you said that we make a mockery of our past when we say things like “in my drug days,” things like that. Isn’t that the cosmic embarrassment, just sort of a recognition that we keep fooling ourselves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. I mean, we feel as we grow up, particularly, as adult, that we have experience of a lot of inadequate situation, as we grow up as a child, that our parents be correcting us all along, including how to shit and piss and how to eat, and things like that. Has become collection of our embarrassment. That we begin to feel that if we ask for more *metaphysical* questions of our existence, that we expect further cosmic, metaphysical embarrassment, which is unbearable. Feel very, very terrible -- cosmically terrible, spiritually terrible. [laughs] I think that’s part of the whole thing, that we are unable to accept the buddha nature; is that we expect that there is-- we’re goofing ourselves cosmically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2503.0,2598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is the bardo experience the same as the self-realization experience in-- that happens when in a body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bardo’s not regarded as particularly opportune situation, necessarily. That it-- it will be reveal your experience, like-- we could say sitting meditation practice is equal to bardo experience: we decide to not do anything, and we’re going to something when we finish our sitting meditation; that we’re suspended this very irritating time. We have all kinds of thought begin to churn out in the mind. So the bardo experience equal to sitting meditation practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2598.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Last night when you said you should ride with the panic, when you-- because you start panicking when you get threatened. Do you watch that panic or surrender to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you watch as well as you surrender, at the same time. Because watching does not necessarily mean you are looking for opponent, that you can fight with it. And when you begin to work with it, then you are surrendered to it. It’s similar analogy is that if you are watching bullfight, if you are the watcher of the bullfight, you identify yourself with the bullfight*er*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2640.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, is there a sense of humor in this experience of non-existence? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sense of humor as what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In this grim experience, you know, discovery that the-- there’s no existence. Where is the sense of humor? I mean…\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you begin realize your non-existence as a friendly experience, or shall we say, a local experience rather than the cosmic one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You mean like, having jumped off a cliff, experience the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it is local experience if you jump off cliff. It is local experience: *you* jumped, or nobody jumped with you. So it’s personal experience. So you begin to find out yourself being too serious, of your jumping off the cliff. And you begin to find that’s outrageously funny. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2682.0,2752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, what do you mean when you say something is a \"workable situation\"? What is the \"work\" done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. Except that work is based on sense of you can relate with work. Of course we could say that work is based on washing up your dirty dishes, taking care of your business, bookkeeping, all kinds of things. But those are-- seem to be very frivolous and very natural situation. And that we are not particularly referring to that. It’s workable in sense of basic being, that you can relate with yourself, you develop *love* to yourself, which is workable situation. That you’re not alienating yourself, is workable situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2752.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is there a process within the shunyata, so that-- I’m thinking of some poetry that refers that-- it’s like, it says \"it’s hard being dead and full of retrieving before one begins to aspire a trace of eternity.\" [Rilke, Duino Elegies] And this seems to, like, say that maybe there is a process within the shunyata when the haunting perhaps changes, and it becomes something else. Is there anything to that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t think so, my dear friend. It had to be itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I didn’t hear you. What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It had to be itself. I mean if you relate with whatever it is, then cease to become haunting. It’s your fault that you are unable to relate with it as itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Sorry, did you just say that if you relate to it as itself, it is not haunting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But don’t take that too seriously. [Laughter] That is a big joke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2819.0,2895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You say we don’t exist, but don’t we exist as a buddha nature, at some level?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don’t. Because the buddha nature does not relate that way. Buddha nature is not concerned with existence. Buddha nature is more concerned with non-existence. That’s why we find the-- lot of philosophical schools in Buddhism are approaching from top coming down, rather than coming up. And therefore, when you come down, that you use all kinds of terminologies which you do-- which makes people over-confusing. Whether you’re approaching from upward or downward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2895.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is death a natural occurrence of a natural act?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Unless you commit suicide.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: The reason I ask is Evans-Wentz, in the introduction to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, says that the Tibetan view, you know, death is a natural act.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ask him. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2943.0,2975.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Could you explain a little bit more how a bodhisattva’s application of the six--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Bodhisattva’s application of the six paramitas doesn’t solve the problem of the haunting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn’t solve the problem of the haunting, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Why is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn’t, because bodhisattva is ten bhumis to go. Each time is more of a relief rather than solving out the whole problems. That each bhumi is regard as unskillful action with the skillful application. So bodhisattvas could look down from the ultimate bhumi, and seeing all the other bhumis that bodhisattva gone through as unskillful. Skill-- still oriented with ego-centered.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2975.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Is being haunted by your death the same in the way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Who's saying, yes? It's the same, yes?]Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: --the same, the way Don Juan describes it -- death being over your left shoulder -- is that similar to being haunted, you know, by your buddha nature, by shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t think so, because Don Juan talks about a particular direction, particular location. You are unable to relate with the nature. But this case, we’re talking about *totality*, and less localized.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But is it-- well, you-- if it weren’t localized, that feeling of being haunted by death, is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Totality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: -- the same haunting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it will be totality, total haunting. Which is more terrifying. Then you are unable to relate with the earth, or how to relate with the desert, or how to relate with the herbs, or whatever. It’s more terrifying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=3029.0,3088.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, is it-- how is this bullfighter analogy, how does that work, that you identify with the bullfighter?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: You said you-- when you see a bullfight, you identify with the bullfighter. I don’t quite understand how that analogy works. That like, when an emotion occurs, that you identify with that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --as opposed to the whole situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but it seem to be that you’re relating with a particular task, particular problem that you had to accomplish and relate with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Is it related to the conceptual sense then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it related with your ambition. Or a need to be fulfilled. I watched two bullfighter situation when I was in Mexico this time, and I found that they’re very, extraordinarily interesting. If you purely work with the metaphysical level, it’s very philosophically, very high-powered thing. But if you relate with purely, in terms of basic being, karmic situation is that you’re using another experience for the sake of a metaphysical realization, which seem to become very primitive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: The person watching the bullfight?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, as well as the existence of bull as a real being, have been killed on the spot, has animal instinct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=3088.0,3214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62581/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I think I’m confused about the term \"bardo\". Do you use it here to-- it seems to represent the basic space. 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You know,\neven the barest implication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2248.52,2251.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62582/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who is it who’s horrified\nat that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752#t=2252.47,2254.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115873/file/219752/transcript/62582/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean if somehow\nthere’s a 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