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Trungpa Rinpoche describes Buddhism in a nutshell, as well as explaining nontheism, buddha nature, reincarnation, and meditation. He also responds to skeptical questions about whether you can be Buddhist and fully participate in society. Note: Who the journalist worked for and whether the interview was ever published is unknown."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Oct 28 2021 to Feb 26 2025\nTranscribing: Jessyca Goldstein\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Lynn Friedman\nOther Contributors: Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["An unidentified Eurpoean journalist interviews Chogyam Trungpa about the Buddhist tradition and the role of Buddhists in Western society. Trungpa Rinpoche describes Buddhism in a nutshell, as well as explaining nontheism, buddha nature, reincarnation, and meditation. He also responds to skeptical questions about whether you can be Buddhist and fully participate in society. Note: Who the journalist worked for and whether the interview was ever published is unknown."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, untitled Media Interview given on July 26th, 1976, in Boulder, Colorado. This is a CTI custom remaster made October 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: A quick test, could you say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=20.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So, let's start with a general question about what is Buddhism, and how did you-- how are your relationships towards Tibetan Buddhism and the way you came from it-- you come from.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, Buddhism is my native religion in my country, from Tibet. And in particular, I was raised as an abbot of a Buddhist monastery. And I started my studies when I was five, from education-- basic education, as well as studies of philosophy and meditation practice. And when my country was overrun by the Chinese communists, and I have escaped from my country, and I came to the West. And I been traveled around India first, and then I came to England, studied at Oxford University, and I established a Tibetan Buddhist center in Scotland. And from there, I came to this country in America. And Buddhism is, in my view, my way of life and my strength and my belief.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=27.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So what's-- what is essential, the essence of Buddhism, to explain it to an audience which hardly knows anything about it, to explain it in simple words? Because for us it's sort of, the European looks at Buddhism as going back from the outer world, and totally meditation and being within yourself. And this is-- I know this is the wrong interpretation anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think basic point of Buddhism, we could say, is that the essence is to attain enlightenment. You have a word for that? How do you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: [Speaking German] Erleuchtung.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Erleuchtung. Erleuchtung. [Laughs] And that enlightenment is to develop one's spirituality, and also to save the world. And the discipline towards that is, at the beginning, practice of meditation. Which is that you could be friendly with yourself, you could develop compassion to yourself, and you could develop strength and enlightenment in yourself first. And then important point is, after that, is to relate that to others to help people. Not necessarily \"to help\" this means convert people into Buddhism, but to develop some sense of basic sanity in people, that they could have a harmony relationship with their world. And the important point here is there's always need for some kind of discipline. And the discipline that we introduced here in America is to make people realize themselves, to be friendly with themselves, develop compassion to themselves, and to the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=130.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So you couldn't compare it with traditional Western religions who are figured towards another world, and who are figured towards a god. It's-- could you call it a nontheistic religion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is definitely nontheistic religion, and the worship or the belief is to realize that each one of our mind contains Buddha mind, and to realize that. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Buddha's mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Buddha's mind and enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So it doesn't involve praying to external god, so therefore we could say nontheistic. And somewhat you-- almost we could say sort of enlightened humanistic approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=269.0,321.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: And could you explain quickly these three ways, these three stages, stadiums--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stages.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Stages, yeah, towards the... is it nirvana, you called it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, the first development is development of discipline in which that you could develop a sense of mindfulness and a sense of slowing down your neurosis and speed and discipline. And the second stage is to development of benevolence, compassion out of that, and working for others. And then finally, the final stage is to realize that Buddha in yourself completely. That you are the Buddha. Buddha-- our attitude towards the Buddha is not as a god, but it is... he's teacher who had attained enlightenment in one lifetime, and trying to emulate his life examples.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=321.0,392.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: But you-- is the Tibetan Buddhism very different from other forms of Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well other forms of Buddhism are different from the Tibetan Buddhism purely local culture. As far as the practice is concerned, it's very much the same, exactly the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=392.0,411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So the belief in reincarnation is a strong point in Buddhism. Am I right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well generally in all Buddhist traditions and actually including Hinduism.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Mhmm. So you see the human being just as part of the whole universe, which goes its way, and dies and rises up again, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like recycles everything, as we seen in the physical world, same thing takes place in our consciousness too.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Mhmm. So there is no such thing as in Western religions the soul of a certain individuals, individuals, say you and me, which dies. When you die, if you believe it or if you believe not, which goes in some mystic heaven that's out there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No it's the life is not regarded as one-shot deal. And life is sort of a testing ground that you can continuously develop in lifetime, many lifetimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=411.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: And could we come to this-- to the practical side as it's shown in the Naropa Institute? What are the attitudes of the Naropa Institute? And how do you think could Buddhism relate to higher civilized Western society like America, high-- with higher technical, very technical standard?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I certainly wouldn't say America is higher civilized country--\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: In terms of technical?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --particularly, but purely mechanically speaking of--\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Yes, that's what I-- yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --the world of gadgets in a way. But our goal of Naropa Institute at this particular school is to bring about the Occidental discipline and Oriental discipline together, by means of Buddhist vision. And we trying to incorporate everything into one. Because as far as Buddhism is concerned, it is not necessarily regarded as Oriental culture as such particularly at all. It is international. And since one's mind is international, there's no races.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So...\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We can make simple here.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're trying to be very simple here.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: [Laughs] Yeah we have to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: For the sake of the subject.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=475.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So you think that a combination between this Oriental -- or however you might call it -- way of thinking, and the highly speedy, technological way of living in the so-called Western hemisphere is possible and is fruitful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think the general hustle and bustle and general frustrations that comes out of to-- from materialistic life, which tend to lead people into spirituality more and more these days. And particularly in America, I'm sure some part of Western Europe too, that brings the physical comfort and pleasure to the extreme. So then people begin to question about the meaning of-- the real meaning of pleasure and happiness. So a lot of people begin to think twice, and they begin to come to some meditative discipline. That's seem to be the situation. And I think the technical situation is not regarded as destructive particularly, if you use properly. And they could be aiding each other, the meditative discipline and the technical-- the technological world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=573.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: As far as I'm concerned is-- or as I see, there is in the States a big movement from the so-called politically very active youth movement, as it took place in the sixties, towards spirituality. How would you explain that? And do you-- I mean this is regarded in Europe as going back from the politics and letting the people who have the power do whatever they like, and go back to your own little self. That's how many people in Europe would define it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose that the spiritual interest that exist in America is not so much of sort of signs of a great golden age coming about, or for that matter run away from world. It's further chaos that involved, tremendous further chaos. And there has been all sorts of protests, all sorts of inner emotions that stirred it up by like anti-war in Vietnam and that kind of situation has brought up. But at the same time, I would regard it as a further journey, because people begin to think slightly differently. And people begin to question twice or thrice their particular belief, their faith, and their conventional ideas. It doesn't seem to work for them. So it's not so much of run away from that, but it's questioning again and again, which has brought a lot of problems in this country. As we call it \"spiritual materialism,\" where America become big spiritual supermarket. But on the other hand, it has brought up a lot of reality and-- I don't think it is regarded as retreating particularly at all. It's in fact coming out more, instead of just hibernating in your little neat culture that you have and develop security with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=663.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Would you regard it possible, as a Buddhist, to be an active political person who still takes interest in changes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so--\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Active.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think definitely so, but when we talk in terms of active there are a lot of questions comes out of that. If one is just, you know, trying to sabotage the government, or blow up banks, we're not talking [laughing] those terms.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: No, no, definitely not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But active in the sense of paying attention to what's happening and where the shift of people's intelligence is going, you know, directing towards. Definitely, I think Buddhism brings a lot of insight to existing situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So there's-- so it's just the opposite then retreating from the world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact it brings you out more into the world because you begin to develop relationship with yourself to begin with. So you feel some sense of gentleness and warmth coming out of you at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=803.0,873.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Another big argument in Europe is that you are-- by doing this, you're losing [UNCLEAR: ties? powers?] to society. You're just not interested in the other people that much, because you are too busy with yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's we have talked already. I think the question is if you don't know yourself properly, then you can't do anything. So you have to know yourself first, so then you can be working for others. Otherwise whole thing becomes a big chain reactions of confusion. You have no idea who you are, what you are, and also you have no idea what your world is all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=873.0,917.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Would you say that this way of seeing things and-- first what I wanted to ask you first, what is your position in Naropa and for the people? Are you sort of a teacher, or are you regarded as sort of a spokesman, or holy person, or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose I'm regarded as a leader and inspirer. And also a teacher, a spiritual friend to a lot of people. And also administrator to trying to bring about a greater sophistication of higher thinking in the people's mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So there is no-- people in Europe could always combine that with the sort of Maharaji thing, these things. So there's no ties to this, because he's regarded as god or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't regard as myself god, and we don't have god anyway so. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Yeah, that's what I wanted to bring out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Just friend to everybody. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Because I read-- what does it mean \"Trungpa Rinpoche\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's-- I'm the 11th Trungpa of my incarnation.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Oh, I see. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=917.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Do you think that this way of thinking and approaching things requires a certain economical and sociological background in people? To, say, meditate and try to get to know yourself and things? Because for instance, a guy, a man, who is raised in Harlem-- or let's not put it that drastic. A guy who is kept and caught somehow in a pattern of living where he gets up in the morning at seven and goes to a factory or a shop or an office or whatsoever, and five o'clock he gets home and he's too tired to think his position over, so he just kept travelling forward. Do you think that the Buddhistic way of thinking could be adequate for this kind of people as well, or do you think it's basically to a certain group?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think could apply to anybody. And in fact that what we talk about is in order to know yourself, you have to know your work, you have to know your activities. So from this point of view, spiritual discipline is not regarded as separate from your mundane work, and it ties very much. And knowing yourself also means knowing others too at the same time. So at job situations, you always have to work with others in your world. So I think that's very much applicable, I'd say.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Yeah. So you don't think it's just for a special sort of privileged group of people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, no. It applies to everybody.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: What we call, for instance, the American middle-class who has no hassles about every day's bread or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have a lot of workers, you know, people from factories or one of our students-- a lot of our students, and the people who have nine-to-five jobs. And the only thing to-- I mean in order to earn their living, they have to do that anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=1017.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: Mhmm. Could you-- is it possible at all to describe the practice of meditation? I mean, is it possible to do it? Because it's a practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's hard to describe accurately, but general approach is to sit still, and to relax your mind without using any techniques. And as process goes on that way, that you begin to develop some sense of that how your mind work. Your emotions, your passions, your aggressions, and everything comes up your mind. So you begin to have some grasp of what you-- what's happening to you. And then slowly as you continue that way further on, then you also begin to develop that your problems are no longer regarded as problems. 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There a lot of falsity in relationships ordinarily, how we run our world. So practically, at this point, is I think this kind of view, attitude, begin to bring about some sense of honesty and directness and pure living, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So if we sum this up again, it's possible to combine these two things, and furthermore, it's very fruitful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think this is highly possible, and this is not just purely theory. This has been done in the Buddhist tradition of two thousand five hundred. years that we have done, we have approached this way. And I think that's possible to do it anywhere in the world. And basic point is to develop sort of pure world without deception, in which that people have pure relationships with each other. 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Well this-- is in Hinduism of course, that there is different classes of people.\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: This I know, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But in Buddhism, I don't think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307#t=1527.0,1564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146100/file/269307/transcript/78149/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nINTERVIEWER: So could we come down, if we say it very primitively, that it comes down in a way to learn how to love your brother above oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well learn how to love your brother properly. 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