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Importance of knowing who we are before contributing to society. America's strong potential for spiritual development. Influx of spiritual teachers as creating its own materialism. Spiritual materialism is looking for an answer, savior, to make us happy. Turns logic around, giving up ground rather than solidifying it. Importance of taking responsibility for country, not just one's own sphere. Exposing one's neurosis can help others see theirs. Relating with others disarms spiritual materialism. Has power, \"vajra scepter,\" \"sword of Manjushri.\" Not being nuisance to society, but transmitting wakefulness. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] sword of Manjushri; [Q13] process of knowing oneself; [Q14] why practice?\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 09 2019 to Dec 10 2020 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe intersection of American materialism with spirituality. Importance of knowing who we are before contributing to society. America's strong potential for spiritual development. Influx of spiritual teachers as creating its own materialism. Spiritual materialism is looking for an answer, savior, to make us happy. Turns logic around, giving up ground rather than solidifying it. Importance of taking responsibility for country, not just one's own sphere. Exposing one's neurosis can help others see theirs. Relating with others disarms spiritual materialism. Has power, \"vajra scepter,\" \"sword of Manjushri.\" Not being nuisance to society, but transmitting wakefulness. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] sword of Manjushri; [Q13] process of knowing oneself; [Q14] why practice?\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260630-964398-pk26y0.mpga"]},"duration":4762.85388,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/457/original/open-uri20260630-964398-pk26y0.mpga?1782857251","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4762.85388,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731108VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19731108VCTR1 - Public Talk - San Francisco - Spiritual Materialism and American Karma]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, single talk entitled \"Spiritual Materialism and American Karma,\" held at The First Unitarian Church in San Francisco, California, on November 8th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made March, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=0.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to invite everybody here to take part in work that we are doing, which is to relate materialism of America and spirituality of America, and American karma in connection with this particular approach. A lot of us here tonight are no doubt involved with some kind of spiritual search. Either in terms of questioning themselves, or somewhat they feel they have resolved the question, and they would like to need some further reinforcement, which are saying same thing, in some way. That everybody take part in this particular tonight's event, is connected with spirituality. Spirituality in the sense that, how to raise consciousness in American world, or the Western world for that matter. It's big subject; it's big undertaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=22.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seem to be necessary that for us to realize that what we are doing, actually. Are we helping the society? Are we enlightening the environment? Making things properly non-violence, and pure and good? Or, do we actually know who we *are* actually, who is doing that? That's the biggest question, actually, begin to arise. That we have idea that the world should be such, such way, and it should be functioning in a certain certain way; that it should be ideal world. We have ideas, dreams about that whole thing. But at the same time, do we know who are we? Actually, properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=132.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ladies and gentlemen, that is the biggest problem that we have come across: that we actually do not know who we are... [laughs; laughter]. Who we are, what we are, why are we, what are we. Is biggest problem, that we ever come across. Once we decide to do something significant, to contribute this world. That we know the significance of what we are trying to *do*, but we are uncertain *who* is doing it [laughter], is uncertain. That is the problem, friends. [Laughter] That is the problem. Actually, biggest problem of all. [laughs; laughter] We don't have to be so solemn about that. [Laughter] Or so threatened about that, particularly. But it would be *good*; it costs less energy and money, and effort, if you know who we are, before we begin to put our activities to practice what are going to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=195.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At this point, seemingly, the idea of stopping the war, or preventing the neurosis, is not particularly big problem. But who is the-- who are the stop*per* of the war; and who's stop*per* of the neurosis, is biggest question. That is American karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=276.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"America has presented enormous possibilities for further spiritual development, entire this planet, and universe. Tremendous promises and possibilities, that America has provided. As America has be also the instigator of Americanization of the rest of the world, as far as the materialism is concerned. Pepsi Cola, Coca Cola; generations of Americanization is tremendous and powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=312.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other day I was trying to work out Coca Cola slogan, that we could translate in Tibetan. [Laughter] And it says something like, \"The most reality of life you can experience.\" [Laughter] From the translation of \"the real thing.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe have a long way to go, actually. Fantastically long way to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=364.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The physical expansion of materialism in America is extraordinarily powerful. And the Japanese expansion of materialism, has become expansion of American materialism: transistor radios, camera equipments, tape recorders, whatever, are inspiration of America. Although the Japanese would regard it is a national heroism, achievement, that they supersede Americanism; but nevertheless, we have Americanization, nevertheless, constantly happening. And that kind of expansion of energy that be put out into materialistic approach, is extraordinarily powerful. In fact, we could so far as to say-- we could say that is mystical power, magical power. At this point we are uncertain whether this magic is, whether black magic or white magic is uncertain. It is to be on the safe side, we decided to call it \"neutral magic.\" [Laughter] Workable magic. But nevertheless, we are uncertain. As-- in the brink of the two situations, we are uncertain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=444.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, Americans have received *further* materialism. All kinds of swamis, all kinds of Zen masters, being visited this particular continent. And we have *enormous* exposure, to the whole thing. Not only that but within the continent itself that there all kinds of exposures to explore their basic training, trying to find a way to realize beyond the territory of materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=552.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All kinds of humanistic psychology approach has been made. Quite rightly. And all those approaches are very compassionate, very well-meaning approaches. Fantastic, wonderful. But at the same time, those inspirations come from the original, ideal Madison Avenue approach. Nevertheless. That America is *infested* with all *kinds* of spiritual disciplines, of that and this, this and that. Higher and lower. Higher because promises a lot, and lower because you have to get into military discipline of all kinds. And \"that\" because there is further ideas should be seen. \"This\" because that you should develop yourself, here. And all kinds of \"that, this, higher, low.\" *All* kinds of things that we have developed. That's good show. [Laughter] Fantastic and beautiful. In fact, I wouldn't tempted to say that that's *wrong* particularly. But that's beautifully *right*, that since that is the ocean or the sea of materialism. And trying to find highlights of that materialism is fantastic, with a spiritual nature or whatever is may be. Discovering human potential of all kinds is fantastically beautiful, magnificent, search. But nevertheless we have still problem friends. [Laughter; applause] Big problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=608.0,739.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some friends from Europe, or other countries would say, \"That's American style. Too cheap. Too plastic. Even if they created human potential, insight, wisdom. It's still plastic. Not even bullshit, [laughter] but bullshit made out of plastic.\" [Laughter] People view that way. And some other teachers, inspired teachers in the East, from exiled Tibetans, from the communist in India, or inspired, swinging great Zen masters in Japan, or inspired Sufi masters in the Middle East, whatever. That their eyes widely open to American karma, that American inspiration is one of the *enormous* feeding and inspired ground, that they could lay their hope of future of spirituality *at all*. In fact, to your surprise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=739.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That so this country particularly, is the most developed and the most potential spiritual field of all. At least on this planet, shall we say. [Laughter] Well that's good to hear about that! [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=840.0,878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we realize that the potentials that we have, also, there is also possibilities of we could let strain, equally. That as if America is newly born infant, and not particularly prepared for any other viruses, or any sickness or anything at all. Infant, who are not prepared, no defense mechanisms of anything at all. That helpless infant, who could be exposed to the jaundice of love-lighty. Or, for that matter, cancer of ego-tripping. And rheumatism of self-centred practices, militant practices. And all kinds of disease that American people are exposed to, spiritually. And in fact, scientifically we could name all those little details: what particular disciplines are related to our particular sickness, in fact. That we are infant, without any defense mechanism, none whatsoever. We are mercy of the masters, including charlatans; absolutely. We could catch all kinds of *sickness*, of that nature; possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=878.0,1051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is not particularly salesman pitch, but if you are interested in all this, I have wrote a book called CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM, a book that is just lately published. And which describes possible way to fight against all these viruses of spiritual materialism -- *all* kinds. It's worth reading [laughter], if I may say so. At least worth pondering, around it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1051.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea is being, that American karma is shaped such a way that tremendous energy, eagerness, openness; even the American style of skepticism is not any longer skepticism as such, but is just standing by and see what others go, see how the others work. It's less than pure skepticism, but just willing to explore the whole thing. That mentality of American approach, on the whole -- that is to say the young adult, as well as the people who have already made their life occupation of searching for spirituality, university level or level of being spiritual teachers, whatever. But *everybody* has this open mind. And this open mind is our problem. [Laughter] And we must think twice. That *real* spirituality -- I'm not particularly talking about bringing Buddhism to this country, as *such*, but I am talking about general spirituality, of all spiritual disciplines. That it is a re-entering the spiritual disciplines of *all* kinds into this country again. And you might regard yourself as Christians, but still that you haven't invited Christianity into your soul, your system, yet. And Buddhism hasn't been invited. Hinduism you might think you been practising doing your asana, all kinds of trips, but haven’t invited in your system properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1099.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so we have tremendous opportunity, because of your country -- our country, shall we say -- is in such interesting turmoil situation: politically, spiritually, and economically, that we are opening ourselves into desperate situations. And that is opening American karma in this country: is that people should have developed open-minded situation in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1219.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have the problem of Watergate situation, whatever. That everybody's here opened their mind to it. And betting between the two, that whether the president is going to be impeached, or going to stay in the office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1262.0,1283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have other situation, that particular trips should be taken seriously or not. All kinds of things are involved. I'm glad lot of the students here are not true believers tonight. Rather that a lot of you are spectators -- that's wonderful, that's fantastic. That is American spirit. [laughter] So don't take anything too seriously, but take with a pinch of salt. Or lime. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1283.0,1342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The spiritual materialism extraordinarily important thing to look at. The idea of spiritual materialism is that we tend to search for a savior, or promise, or the answer, in which that once we look into some particular \"thing\", that we regard that's going to save us, make us happier, good person, ego-centred person. That is the essence of spiritual materialism. That seem to be the problem that we have already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1342.0,1377.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the whole idea is that we might be able to turn whole logic around a little bit, if you don't mind. Just turn around a little bit, by saying that, \"I don't mind if I lost my ground of sanity, or egocentric-ness. And I could become somewhat egoless,\" -- \"anata\", as Buddhist terminology says. That egoless person, that \"I would like to give my ground.\" Whatever pride involved. That challenge from your husband, challenge from your wife, challenge from your teacher, whatever it's may be, just, \"I would like to give my ground; let go a little bit. And lose some kind of faith in myself, that I'm after all not Superman. Or what I think I am is after all, not so.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1377.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems to be necessary to approach that way. And problem of not having enough spiritual discipline, that for the very fact we can't practice spiritual disciplines -- none whatever -- is because we are so *proud*, arrogant of ourselves. That we think what we are doing is right, good, appropriate. And by doing so we could combat our broken marriage. That we could talk our wife that \"I had a better thing you did. You are too emotional, and your husband, which I am, had a better enlightened experience, of our fucked-up marriage.\" [Laughter] Or on the other hand -- opposite around -- of friends who have been so *proud* of you, that you can't combat your friends by saying that *you* got proper instructions, and that you've found the true reality, whatever. And then, in turn, we could crush down our friend who has smart ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1460.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all those little things, are -- don't you think it's a bit too much, too much? [Laughter; laughing]. It's really... [laughing; laughter] [Unknown incident; laughter] It's... too stupid, shall we say.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat is spiritual materialism. That *is* spiritual materialism. That *is* spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1532.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another thing is that, you are not only responsible of your marriage, and your friendship with others, alone, but you are responsible to the rest of the whole continent, in this country, namely. That *everybody* has tremendous responsibility, that you should prepare to take that responsibility, absolutely necessary. That you are not just intrigued, and indulged in your little discoveries that you have made, and make best of yourself as part of your apartment decoration, in your house. But something had to be transmitted to rest of your fellow countrymen. And I think that's one of the biggest problems, that when we become highly skeptical about spiritual materialism, then you are not willing to transmit your neurosis, your doubts, your confusions to rest of the world. And to show them how your neurosis and doubt actually generated, so that you can show your other fellow people that those neurosis are relevant to them as well. So in turn, they could also think twice is what's called \"Mahayana Buddhism\", is thinking twice and relating with your friends, again and again. We can't let them just go by, and fucked up constantly. They are also necessary for your *own* development as well. So, the whole approach is two-fold: realizing one's *own* spiritual materialism, as well as relating with the *others'* spiritual materialism. And working along with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1591.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the American karma, on the whole, generally is concerned, that inspiration from the materialism, early stage, act as a reminder that, after all, the happiness is not, after all-- the physical happiness is after all, having lots of money, after all is not particularly the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1724.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, second stage is that spiritual happiness also is not proper, not *the* happiness. That one has to relate to with one's fellow sentient beings. Which destroys the idea of spiritual materialism -- of individual, personal liberation, whatever. That you still have to come back to the gutter, and relate with the dirt, and relate with aggression and passion that involves around you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1748.0,1790.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be basic point of American karmic situation of spiritual discipline, that we have found out-- in this case, I am not particularly recommending the Buddhist path is the best or the other path is the best, *at all*. But what I'm suggesting is that *some* kind of need for destroying spiritual materialism, for all walks of life, all disciplines.\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso there are lot of powers involved with, that destroying spiritual materialism. Tremendous power, energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1790.0,1859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spiritual materialism is generally founded upon idea of all kinds of self-deceptions and lies, of all kinds. And when one begin to destroy spiritual materialism, that's like *thunderbolt* landing on tree. Actually happens. That could fuse people’s trips of all kinds of self-deceptions. If people really, fully compassionate, willing to do such thing, you can become the instrumental of destroying spirituality, cutting through spirituality. *Everybody* here who possesses intelligence, has that vajra scepter, or that dynamic sword of Manjushri. Everybody has is it in their hand, that you could become instrumental of destroying spirituality, of materialism. And you should take it, if you like, unless you're a coward; [laughter] it's up to you. Or, on the other hand get destroyed, or take part in the force of the spiritual mat-- destroying the spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1859.0,1954.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We cannot keep this country any longer to be deceived the basic meaning of spirituality. And we have our commitment to this karma of this country. We should trying to work along with our friends, our teachers, who are involved with spiritual materialism; it's necessary to work that way. So, it is necessary, to realize that not only you have a function to listen here and come sit here, you be taught as hungry bees; bees looking for the queen bee, to be sucked, and so then you will be filled. But you also lot of jobs involved with that, is that, to inspire, to realize, that you could also influence-- influence great deal, to rest of the spiritual development of America, and the *world*. You can stick your necks out, sharpen your teeth, and nails, to realize that you also could become instrumental to destroy spiritual materialism and rouse your own realization of the true dharmic energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=1954.0,2076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it is possible, it is necessary, it is absolutely powerful thing you can do. And only thing of what I'm personally concerned, is that when you walk out of this particular hall, that you don't become nuisance to the society anymore. That you will be doing some purpose, some kind of work, bodhisattva work. That to transmit something or other, from your own awakened openness, whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could stop our discussion tonight there, and if you any questions, you are welcome to ask please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2076.0,2142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I was-- the word \"materialism\", I was just wondering if you make the distinction, definition between \"materialism\" and \"historical materialism.\" I was just also thinking of that you being from Tibet you might have been concerned about that kind of materialism too. But do you make the different about-- you know, some people who use the word \"materialism\" and kind of-- think it applies to both places.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Can everybody-- did everybody hear the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No. Was there a difference between historical materialism and spiritual materialism, is that the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I said \"materialism\". And then I said well, maybe because you were from Tibet you might be concerned with that kind of materialism, historical materialism. I was referring to China, but in terms of the historical materialism, but oftentimes when people hear the word, \"materialism\", you know, the criticism that is put on materialism and consumerism and so on, if they don't-- if they're not informed, they think it's applied to historical materialism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [To Trungpa Rinpoche] Did you hear the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, why don't you tell others, what he asked.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right. I think the question was, was the [laughter], because Rinpoche is from Tibet, whether the perspective he had on materialism, and some distinction between historical perspective of materialism--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I just wanted to know if you knew the difference-- do you know the difference between materialism and historical materialism? If you, you know, understood that difference. And then, the other part is he mentioned about historical materialism, I was kind of tongue-in-cheek in a sense, referring to historical materialism in terms of China and Tibet. So it was sort of, kind of two questions, both make the distinction between materialism and historical materialism--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, Okay. What is he saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: One and the same? If I understand it [laughter], is there a difference between historical materialism and materialism? And second question I didn't get at all. [applause; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very intelligent question, actually. So intelligent one. That when you talk about spiritual materialism we are not only referring to America alone *at all*. We are talking about spiritual materialism that did happen and does still happen, in Mongolia, Tibet, and China, if there are any Buddhism left, or spiritual materialisms left, at all. And we are referring to the same kind of thing -- the degenerated monasteries, who do not particular pay attention to the practice of meditation *at all*. But purely gaining their own territories and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe epitome of spiritual materialism that we have experienced in the West, from the degeneratic [sic] of Catholic traditions, or whatever, monastic traditions, that happened in the past. As well, that we are referring to the same thing. That is why particularly I'm referring to warning of spiritual materialism, in this America, is particularly because we could *save*, we could get rid of such confusion, such stupidity, in this country by providing less church authoritarian, and confused ego-centred materialism of the religion, spiritual materialism. And that is whole point of asking people to commit themselves to destroying spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2142.0,2423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It was kind of related to this, because I read a lot about Tibet and it seemed like under the lamas there was a lot of oppression, there was slavery, there's low status for the women. And it seemed like a very advanced states of spiritual materialism, in Tibet, as far as I could make out. I mean, one of these people were writing for The China Review, writing articles, and they were oppressed like, and they talk about how good-- a bad time they had. And I was going to ask if you think people in China have cut through spiritual materialism, and brought benefits to their people?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The people in China?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The people in Red China.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Red China.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The question was under lamaism, that there was a lot of slavery and suppression of women, and that[laughter] [INAUDIBLE]--the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And I was wondering if, you know I know that the lamas got very upset because they were replaced by Communist Chinese, but it seems to me. And I was wondering what he thought whether the Chinese had cut through spiritual materialism and actually brought about spiritual--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Uh huh. In Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: No, the people in Tibet and China too.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right. In China. And have the Chinese [INAUDIBLE] Tibet, and both in Tibet and China, have they cut through spiritual materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. That is why-- reason why that America is very fresh ground, in which that physical comfort has be already granted, by no means the blessings of God. Everybody has because the blessings of their money, their dollar. They have their trips together. Earning a lot of money, have a comfortable house, good job, motorcars and so forth. It's been already settled, so, beyond that is possible spiritual comfort. That is why I feel that it is appropriate time, most appropriate time, because traditionally the spiritual materialism is also woven with the physical materialism at the same time, which is uncertain. In the case of America, this particular case is concerned it is very precise, very definite. Everybody's rich enough to have physical comfort, comfortable situation, physically. And they're looking for something beyond it, so therefore, it is whole thing is very based-- very much based on obvious case. So therefore, the spiritual materialism could be exposed much *easier*, this case.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I'm not using models of what's been happening in the degenerated Buddhist countries, towards the end of century, as ideal particularly at all. Those are the examples of spiritual materialism in this twentieth century; definitely so. I actually admit that, that there is a lot of corruptions, and confusions, and for one thing the scholars and meditators are not really concerned with compassion, *at all*. And which is very shocking, and *terrible*, in this case. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2423.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Do you enjoin us about -- before you finished your talk--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you say it just a loud-- just a little bit louder?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'll try. You enjoined us before you finished your talk not to be a nuisance to society when we left this hall. Now, how is that possible when you're asking us to pick up the sword, confront people on a very basic level? Isn't that being a nuisance? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You enjoined us to not be a nuisance to society, but then you told us to pick up the sword. And how do we reconcile these two things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What two things?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The sword.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And what? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And not being a nuisance to society.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah. Well, sword is highway, ship, airplane, earth, which cuts down anything is not in keeping with the basic sanity, could cut through. And the sword is not particularly regarded as a militant sword. But it is that if you entered into the wrong airplane, you been carried away into somewhere else. If you enter the wrong ship, you be carried to somewhere else. So sword is the idea of cutting any *dreaming* qualities of whatever that may be; cutting through any unnecessary pre-fabrications, of any kind of spiritual materialism. Which usually spiritualities are necessary part of the society in fact, if I may say so. People do not need really spirituality in their life. They don't! [Laughs] They don't need spirituality actually. Their spirituality is created because they need to see their life as fullest as they could. Washing up dishes, okay, but doing it properly is what's called spirituality, in this case. *Sit* on your couch, and read your newspaper properly. If you are fucked up, you can't do it. [laughter] Sit on your couch with newspaper *properly* -- that is spirituality. So, spirituality is doing things properly, actually. If you need further treatment just sit and meditate, do nothing. That's the extra therapy that is developed, actually. So, spirituality from that sense is actually doing things properly, all along. And if anybody doesn't feel that what they should be doing things properly, or neurotically, chaotically, are regarded as *insane*, from that point of view. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2626.0,2854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If it is possible to overcome these tendencies towards degeneracy and corruption in our practice; if it is possible to overcome conflicting emotions by these practices, how is it that there is no hope?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The question was if it is possible to overcome degeneracy through our practice, then how come there is no hope?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, hope is not particularly discussed, because there is hope*ful*ness, as we discussed, that's the problem. Hope*less*ness, particularly discussed, as such. If you sit, meditate properly, and relate with your daily living situation, that hopefulness is no longer a question. You sit without a purpose. You just sit. [Laughter] It's... nothing. [Laughter] [unknown incident; applause].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2854.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Even if Buddhism and American karma [INAUDIBLE], do you feel that the American karma is affected by the Americans when they first came to the United States, and their treatment of the Indians, and not signing the treaties, and not honoring the treaties, do you feel that this is the karma that the United States is now suffering, over shorter periods, to a hundred years?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The question was, do you feel that the American karma has been affected by the first arrival of the non-Americans to America? And their treatment of the Indians?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's plausible. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Indians seem to have approach towards not wasting leftovers. If you have a big dinner party, they don't leave anything leftover, is throwing away in your garbage dump. And Americans have developed garbage system, trucks and all kinds of things, that your leftovers could be thrown somewhere else. And I think that is connected with the poverty, that quite possibly American-- white man's America, could suffer tremendous poverty in the future. That we have waste a lot of food. And we've waste a lot of land. In order to waste. Garbage dumps are so enormous. And food consumptions are not regarded as important thing. And nobody ate leftovers next day, after their dinner. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=2951.0,3097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is there a difference between vajra nature, and just outright rudeness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 2: The question is, is there a difference between vajra nature and outright rudeness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Outright what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 2: Rudeness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see what the question is for, particularly. But of course there is. That rudeness is vajra, in the sense of cutting through, whatever thing to be seen through. And that could be regarded as rudeness, because you are too sharp. Which is good. One should sharpen that particular blade. That is in fact a tool to destroy spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3097.0,3149.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The person that stops trying to strive for another spiritual state, and just decides to live naturally, and try to become more compassionate. And after doing that, finds that he isn't becoming more compassionate -- should he keep trying? [Laughter; applause] [INAUDIBLE] and multiple other techniques.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: After a person has been-- [laughter] striving for some kind of spirituality--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: After you've stopped striving.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Or after you've stopped striving. And finds that after stopping striving and just being, that it isn't happening, then should he go back to striving? [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds like you're being eaten by alligator. [Laughter] And alligator spits you out [laughter], and trying to ask for the sympathy of the alligator to eat you up again. [Laughter; applause] And once person realizes spiritual materialism, person should have seen through and never try it again. [Laughter] Because the spiritual materialism is basically not compassionate thing to do; that you can't work with your fellow sentient beings any more. It's purely self-development technique or trick. So you become self-recycling thing is happening all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3149.0,3271.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You spoke about doubt being a key somehow to not accepting the reality of spiritually striving mind. Is that itself-- is not itself that the vajra scepter?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You spoke about doubt as being a part of the spiritual mind. Is this part of the vajra scepter?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That could be regarded as confused or, giving away. Doubt has all kinds of things, that is giving away your hope, or else you're looking for some further promises in your doubt. So this case, the doubt if there is no further-- no expectation for further reward, that doubt seem to be open doubt. That you are exposed to \"vajra confident\". If doubt is to retain yourself, become yourself ego-centred or ego maniac, become bigger person; you're looking for new possible way of, logical way of maintaining your doubt. Then that seem to become decrepit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3271.0,3382.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I was wondering about how you commented on the slavery that white people have always-- like slavery to a group, to [INAUDIBLE] and the loss of power. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was wondering if-- the question was, I wonder if you would comment upon the slavery of aspirants to a guru, or relationships of certain disciplines related to God?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No, the relationship of an aspirant to a particular guide. I was wondering would that slavery aspect, of the spiritual egotism aspect...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The relationship of an aspirant to a particular god--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Guide, guide.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh, guide. I'm sorry. So particular guide.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No, particular guide [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Particular guide, or Buddha, without concept of slavery involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] I don't quite follow what he said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [To Trungpa Rinpoche] I think he's commenting about how could you follow a guru or a teacher without falling into the trap of slavery or [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Idea of a guide, or god, is manufactured one. And guru, or spiritual master is direct link, human-to-human situation. And if you are looking for higher power, fearing to look for the human power, one cannot find any higher powers at *all*. Like, that's the Christianity has already discovered, is that you cannot relate with God without Christ. Of person who was born on this Earth, and speaks language of this Earth, and eats food of this Earth. And finally crucifix; that kind of situation of *real being*, seem to be necessary. So therefore, human masters seem to necessary, before we hypothesize that there is a superhuman being involved at all. In fact, one should not believe at all, of the superhuman, of the god, or anything of that nature. Because it is possible that there's no such thing at all. It is possible -- no god! [Laughter] No cosmic energy. Simply just outer space.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut the only way to relate with that what is happening *here*, right now, is that you have person to relate with you as a sane person who might speak of outrageous language, which might be [INAUDIBLE] language, but that is reasonable enough. Rather than somebody going-- coming from a martian, or from the lunatic world, or the moon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3382.0,3638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Does it make us feel any better or small to realize that we are only the United States, that we're not America?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Does it make us-- the question was, does it make us feel any smaller to realize that we're just the United States and not America?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? What does that mean? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't know. [To Trungpa Rinpoche] The question was does it make us feel any smaller to realize that we're just the United States and not America.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3638.0,3675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] wisdom of Rinpoche there, and one thing I cannot understand, why all the laughing? Everybody's entitled to question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Are you asking a question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No, I am not asking a question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I see, I appreciate the wisdom of Rinpoche here. And some folk, all they do is they are in search. And whenever one stand up, and [INAUDIBLE]. Why can't you act like brother?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What are people laughing at?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That's right. I mean maybe the question is silly. Like is he trying to [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? What did he say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [To Trungpa Rinpoche] He said that the questions are serious, but why are people laughing? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the whole problem that we have here. That the questions are very serious, but we don't have to regarded as bad news. That what's happening around here, or particularly in this particular hall, is celebration. Regarding everything as good news. That's why people rejoicing. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3675.0,3790.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, you talked about American viruses, and two of them were the cancer of tripping, and the rheumatism of self-centred practice. And could you say more about those?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Talk about two diseases of America -- the cancer of tripping and the rheumatism of self-centredness, and would you please make some more comments about that please?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I could name all kinds of diseases going along with the spiritual materialism, but I feel that I should be openness, spacious, not make too specific, particular this point. But I think the whole point is that, everybody who are involved with spiritual materialism are caught up in *all kinds* of diseases, of all kinds of nature. Namely, because people are self-conscious of themselves, and also they would like to push their trips into all kinds of ways. A way that personified their personality, or else that trying to use their logic of their knowledge, as to proving basis of all kinds. That there is all kinds of trips that are involved, which is a part of the supermarket of package deal. It's okay, in fact that finally they come along as a package.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you watch movie called \"Soylent Green\"; I'm sure a lot of you have -- have you watched that movie? \"Soylent Green\"? Anybody? Raise their hands. Yeah, yeah, you have watched that movie. [Laughter] That the human body is made into a package, and they been sold as soya, soybean meal, to sustain human beings. That is part of spiritual materialism -- actually, that's happening right now, to your surprise. That everybody's knowledge is being packaged, and put into little biscuit tins, and dispersed or publicized. That is part of the whole spiritual materialism, is part of \"Soylent Green\" movie type situation. If you haven't seen that particular movie, I would recommend to see that, in relationship in spiritual materialism: how *gross* that we could become, how confused we could become.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that kind of warning is very necessary, very good. And that speaks for us great deal, that that kind of little discovery be put into package deal. Then we eat it, we regard that as good news. And we just *survive* -- but then no further dance is involved. Thank you. I would recommend everybody to see [laughing] \"Soylent Green\" [laughter], come next. And look at it from the point of view of spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=3790.0,4010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 14: Yeah, you said at the beginning that people don't know themselves. Could you explain process involved-- a process involved that will get people to know themselves better?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You said at the beginning that people don't know themselves. Could you explain the process by-- in which, a way in which people could get to know themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you don't know yourself, at the beginning, and then you might have some possibilities of knowing who you are, at the end. Because you are confused. And you begin to make a relationship with your own confusion; that's the best way of knowing yourself. Your self consist of confusion from that point of view. Other than glorious \"whatever may be, blah blah blah.\" [Laughter] You are consist of confusion. And knowing confusion is the best thing that we could do. And the best material that we could create to ignite the light of bodhi, enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that seem to the best way to begin ourselves. To know *how* we are confused, what we are confused, and why not we are confused. *Why* they are confused.[laughter] And that's good! So we know somewhat who we are, what we are, at least to begin our journey to-- onward, whatever. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4010.0,4111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --spiritual materialism, and not having your self-centred practice. And it seems inevitable, in any kind of spiritual movement, some corruption, sooner or later, now [INAUDIBLE]. And if there was no such thing as self-centred practice, no one would even start to practice. Someone first had to scare you into thinking there was such a place as hell, or there was some kind of happy place called nirvana, you would never even start practicing, so it seems inevitable, that the possibility of just following yourself on, living compassionately, bodhisattva [INAUDIBLE] seems to be the answer. But if that's the answer, why do we have all these practices? And shouldn't we just learn to accept the corruption within us? Seems to become part of the whole deal, you can't get around it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Unless there was some kind of self-centred concept to begin with, and it seems that's there's no way to avoid this inevitable corruption, then why should we accept this as part of the spiritual practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Or should we just throw them all out? Forget about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Throw it all out, forget about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: What's the alternative? [INAUDIBLE] to accept the corruption or just forget about the practice period. Because I don't think I'd even have a practice without having a corrupt practice or a selfish individual practice from selfish reasons.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Can't see how we can have a practice without corruption involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What was the first thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The first thing is that why would one even bother doing it, even approaching trying to reach nirvana, unless it started from a self-centred concept?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be good, that why should we begin at all? That's a mystery. Why should we? Why people here at all, to listen this talk? And why, why, why, why, why, why? [Laughter] *Why not*? [Laughter; applause] Why so? Why? [Laughter] And because of \"why\" that brought lot of possibilities. \"Why so,\" \"why not,\" \"how so?\" [laughter] \"Why not?\" \"So so.\" [Laughter] All kinds of possibilities begin to broke. [Laughter] I would like to make-- I don't want particularly would like to make valative [sic: valuative] answers for those \"why, how, who?\" But because things are here happening, one doesn't have to particularly question. The only question is: who is the person who says \"why\", \"how\", and \"what\"? And that seem to be the basic point. And it doesn't matter why particularly, but who said \"why\"? Or what said \"why\"? \"Who is it?\" It is what?\"  [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4111.0,4351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How come all questions here are usually asked by men? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How come all the questions asked here are asked by men? That was the question, from this woman. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:I wonder. [Laughter] You tell me.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You must know the answer [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4351.0,4394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I was wondering, I have a question for you. I have a lot of difficulties overcoming laziness and resistance to spiritual practices, and to things that I know [INAUDIBLE] to make me high. And I'd to receive, perhaps you give me some advice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I have a lot of difficulty overcoming laziness and resistance to spiritual practices. But the second part was?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, because I know these spiritual practices are--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: They get me high, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah, I guess I'd like some encouragement or advice--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The question was that I have difficulty overcoming laziness and resistance to spiritual practices, because I know that these spiritual practices will make me high. [Laughter; murmuring]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Nooooo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good! [Aside] What did she say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Even *though* they would get me high.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah, like I don't understand [INAUDIBLE] high--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Even though they make me high.\" \"Even though they make me high...\" You have too much trust, not enough skepticism. Spiritual trips are not regarded as trustworthy. You have all kinds of charlatans -- charlatans not necessarily of your teacher alone. But charlatan-ing yourself, through the-- throughout the path. You make your up-- you make *up* yourself, in the smoothness of the path. You have all kinds of ideas for the spiritual path, is congenial to your *self*, which makes *yourself* charlatan. Trying to work with the charlatan guru you have, whatever, maybe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the idea is to become very skeptical, extremely skeptical, that nothing free you, *at all*. And everything free you, at all. That freedom is not dependent on *personalities*, or that power of the dogma. But freedom is *you*; if you give up \"you\", you are freed. If you don't give up \"you\", you are imprisoned, in the name of freedom. Thank you. [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4394.0,4586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94997/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Friends, I think we should end our meeting here tonight. And have-- would like to invite everybody to take part in the seminar that's happening-- seminary [sic] that's happening. A few, tomorrow in fact; if you would like to work together again.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the long run, I feel that spirituality is a very complicated subject, extremely complicated subject. Because it's so simple. And any trips that you are involved is imprisonment. Devastating... prison. [Laughs] Any trips are devastating prison.\r\n\r\n\r\nFreedom from spiritual materialism is to realize you are independent person, who has a right to judge your own sanity. Nobody is preventing you to look up at the crescent moon, or the full moon, up. Although you are hassled by the policeman on the street, you could still look up in the mountain, or the sky, to see crescent moon, full moon. Freedom is yours. And I would recommend that people to detach themselves any spiritual trips. That is free expression of your own liberation to enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you very much coming tonight. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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you.\n[Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4578.17,4583.655"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94998/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Friends, I think\nwe should end\nour meeting here tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4586.91,4591.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94998/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And have-- would like to invite\neverybody to take 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simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4626.15,4633.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94998/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And any trips that you are\ninvolved is imprisonment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457#t=4633.65,4644.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174034/file/313457/transcript/94998/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Devastating... 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