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Inspiration as awareness of buddha nature; application as the taking of the bodhisattva and devoting oneself to all sentient beings. Arises from view \"that there is no definite, solid individuality as myself to be saved.\" \"[W]orking with other people is the occupation, but it is not increasing yourself.\" The bodhisattva views the whole environment as being friendly. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 31 2020 to Jul 15 2023 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCommitment to bodhisattva path based on two types of confidence: inspiration and application. Inspiration as awareness of buddha nature; application as the taking of the bodhisattva and devoting oneself to all sentient beings. Arises from view \"that there is no definite, solid individuality as myself to be saved.\" \"[W]orking with other people is the occupation, but it is not increasing yourself.\" The bodhisattva views the whole environment as being friendly.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/670/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706540766","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706540744_19720327VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3714.30519,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/670/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706540766","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/670/original/1706540744_19720327VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1706540746","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3714.30519,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720327VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19720327VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Bodhisattva Path - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Bodhisattva Path, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number three, March 27th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made July 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Bodhisattva Path, Tail of the Tiger, March 1972, third talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=0.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have established important basic grounds for the bodhisattva's path. The attitude of bodhisattva is being that of having a right view to the negativities and able to use as stepping-stone. And also, that particular stepping-stone need certain amount of depth, which is meditation of a bodhisattva. And beyond that that we could get into further explanation of a bodhisattva's path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=39.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when bodhisattva makes commitment to his bodhisattva way, that commitment based on the two types of confidence: the confidence of inspiration and the confidence of the actual application. And inspiration in this case is inspiration of the awareness of buddha nature. That his commitment to the path of bodhisattva's way is inspired by that of psychological attitude to bodhisattva way and as well as psychological to \"bodhi.\" So understanding of bodhi plays important part in this case. And bodhi mind or awakened state of mind -- or enlightened attitude, enlightened mind, whatever you like to call it -- that contains our-- that of wisdom and that of compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=112.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word the ingredients of bodhi mind are the-- that of transcendent knowledge, which could perceive things sharply, precisely, beyond a dualistic barrier. As well as that contains also compassion, which is communication and how to deal living situation and other people, this relationship, basically a soft and open way. And aspiration of bodhisattva this case is not quite relating with purely the wishful thinking process at all, but it is purely relating with that of having faith in the basic sanity. That there is-- are some elements in a living situation which are not destructive or negative as such, but those living situations contain tremendous positive elements in them, in spite of the aggression and passion and all the other negativities that might happen, confusion and so on. But at the same time it contains something very fundamental and basic, and something very definite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=198.0,336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the relating to this particular element or aspiration of a bodhisattva is concerned, it also entails of that of taking a bodhisattva's vow, with certain… other bodhisattvas who already trod on this path. And relating with the lineage of bodhisattva. That admitting yourself as one of the bodhisattvas, actually regarding the bodhisattva attitude as part of your family psyche, that family mentality, family attitude, that you are one of those people. You belong to that particular category of a bodhisattva’s family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=336.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of that the bodhisattvas are committed to take a vow, because you could relate with other people inspired to take you into the path and take a vow to become a bodhisattva. Which is a fundamental discipline, a fundamental open mind, open-mindedness. That you belong to this particular family, and you have decide to let go, some sense, of all the doubts, which is taking bodhisattva vow. That it is been said in the scriptures that having taken bodhisattva vow, it is like planting ever-growing tree. Whereas the other aspect of a bodhisattva's vow, of trying to limit oneself, is that of bamboo, who only grows in certain period of time after it blossoms -- it stops.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=417.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the bodhisattva vow is therefore in itself an expression of bodhisattva, that you are part of the family, you become part of the family, you *are* the member of family. That you take bodhisattva vow with the presence of teacher, presence of some symbolism or shrine, those who also have taken the vow in the past and had become-- decide to become would-be buddhas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=507.0,550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So taking vow as bodhisattva is very powerful thing from this point. And it is definite commitment -- not only a commitment but it is such heroic, or such definite bravery, gesture of bravery. That I am willing to relate with my environment, I'm not going to close myself in, in terms of relating with environment, anymore at all. That I regard my relations with the world as learning process. That is taking bodhisattva vow, is definite gesture of generosity and that I'm not afraid that there is something is defeating you anymore at all. That whatever happens including the defeat is also part of my encouragement in terms of the trodding on the path of bodhisattva, bodhisattva's way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=550.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the next situation which consist on this bodhisattva's path is that of actual application. And those process we discussed already are that of the aspiration of the taking the vow, actual commitment to the bodhisattva's path. That you are willing to use the universe is part of your inspiration, including sentient beings. Whatever contains in the universe is your friend and that is object of compassion, that, \"I'm really going to get into that, I'm really going to work with it, and I have no reservations about anything at all.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=623.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not so much of evangelistic attitude of that \"I'm going to be the savior of the world,\" but the world is become my savior. Whatever happens in our living situation in the world, that *is* my inspiration. So \"I don't have to save the world particularly, but world encourage me to save myself, along with the others. If I begin to become friendly to myself, then world is also going to become friendly to myself.\" So it is interdependent situation from this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=665.0,702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And application of bodhisattva is next situation that happens is that of the second stage of part of the taking the discipline of a bodhisattva. Both are known as the discipline of a bodhisattva or take a vow for bodhisattva has two situation: that of the aspiration, that of the application. So in terms of this application are concerned, it is the application centerless space, that there is no definite, solid individuality as myself to be saved. \"From today onward attainment of enlightenment, I'm going to devote my life to my living situation with sentient beings. That I'm going to make friends with myself. I become-- 'me and my' notion becomes unimportant. That I'm going to relate with sentient beings. That I'm not going to save myself to attain enlightenment. I'm going to give up this notion of attainment of enlightenment.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=702.0,784.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"And because of that I'm going to relate with my application of bodhisattva, and sixfold paramitas or tenfold paramitas, what have you. I'm going to work with a situation that application is selfless application of igniting the tendency of compassion, karuna, that does exist in the basic sanity inspiration of a bodhisattva's mentality, which is bodhi mind. And I'm going to keep up with the qualities of bodhi mind, which consist of knowledge and compassion. Both are selfless. I'm not going work this-- my practice of bodhisattva way for myself, but I devote my life for other beings, other people. I'm going to-- willing to recept-- receive the inspiration from world outside.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=784.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be the attitude of bodhisattva in this case of actual application. That of course we could discuss the details of the application in the coming session that we might have. But in terms of direct application are concerned that it is that of achievement of enlightened state is centralized attitude, therefore that becomes preoccupation in our mind, which prevents us to relate with the living situation or working with other people. So purely if you're able to work with other people as such, then the preoccupation begin to disappear already so we are able to be right on the spot relating with other people. So that preoccupation cease to exist of any kind of ambition or-- which includes aggression or whatever have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=860.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it is that of working with other people *is* the occupation, but it is not increasing yourself. And there is expression in the scriptures called \"unknown friends\", that you relate with the unknown friends. That is to say that you haven't put your labels on them as \"good friends\" or \"bad friends.\" Or you haven't analyzed friends' qualities or their particular mentalities, but you do not know who they are actually but they still become your friends. That friend that you didn't make acquaintance actually but they are still friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=924.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far at that notion is concerned, bodhisattva is also referred as \"unknown friend\" as well from the point of view of other people. Because they don't need that particular preconception or concept of worthy for being friends or not worthy for being friends. But they accepted whole environment as being friendship, friendly environment, friendly association, friendly open space. So that bodhisattva's attitude from this is very outrageously unselfish. You might say that would this hurt bodhisattvas if you be un-considerate of himself -- if he didn't take care of himself, how could he secure himself? Would some of the friends might hurt him? Would he mistaken that other people as enemies being also friends, and he might go to them, they-- would they might give him poison?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=974.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as this situation is concerned it is useless to ask, because bodhisattva's positivity is so definite, so real, that including the unfriendliness of your bodhisattva’s friends [laughter] become irrelevant. And it is one of the most positive and powerful output that ever could be radiated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1031.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be application of bodhisattva's mentality in general, but as far as detail is concerned we are going to discuss the process that those who take-- those who have taken the vows of bodhisattva is the-- not regarded as bodhisattvas yet. They are regarded as just ordinary people. They are going through steps of a process of getting into the path, getting into the bhumis. So we will discuss those bhumis later on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1066.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That what we are discussing is we are not discussing that of bodhisattvas who attained a stage of bodhisattvahood. But we're talking about those who are would-be bodhisattvas, or might-be bodhisattvas, as novice bodhisattvas. And they take a vow, they get into the practices of bodhisattva's work, and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nCould have a discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1103.0,1139.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: From your-- in your general description of the application of bodhisattva vow, I would expect that a novice bodhisattva would spend a lot devoted charity much like a Catholic priest or a Christian charity worker. And yet most of the yogis I've read about have spent lives which seem remarkably self-centered, mostly devoting their time to [INAUDIBLE WORDS] and their personal work. Is that really how bodhisattva action might manifest itself? Seems--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As Catholics? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: As Catholics.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: As Catholics, as a charitable worker. The yogis seem rather selfish in actions.\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that bodhisattva's attitude of charity in this case is not so much of trying to do good as pious work in the social welfare work as-- in the fashion of social welfare work. Because they don't want to see people be happy, but they feel that people need to be happy therefore they work with it. Do you see the differences? If I'm helping you, say, \"I want to see you happy, I feel that I want to give some reward, that I'm doing good deed.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mean, you're helping me, you feel that my happiness is sort of a personal reward to your ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. That doesn't apply anymore because I'm dealing with my environment, my projections, whatever you have. I mean there is no notion of good bodhisattvas, good Christian at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well then the bodhisattva doesn't have the specific idea of helping this individual or that individual as he works?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well actually sure, he does. I mean otherwise you can't help anybody, if you can't get in touch with the people who are suffering. But that help is not implied by his metaphysical belief or religious belief, but it is because needed, it happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1139.0,1348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] to mahayana Buddhism that the-- a different bodhisattva vow that goes, \"I vow to attain enlightenment for the benefit for all that live.\" And I see the second half of that in just what you said, with no contradiction. But the first half seems to be that there is-- that the enlightenment isn't negated but still [UNCLEAR: see?]. And is there a place where that comes together?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. There is attainment of enlightenment from this case is based on how you work with people, how generous you are. So if you regard enlightenment is selfhood, egohood, it is contradiction. Whereas if you regard enlightenment as egolessness then it doesn't become contradiction, because enlightenment automatically means non-ego state -- in a sense, non-rewarding state. That you can't get anything in return, you can't get confirmed your own-- you haven’t been given medal, [SPEAKER2 laughs] you haven't made into knight, or the general, or the prime minister, what have you. That you have-- you're not expecting any kind of reward of anything. That you just do it, you attain bodhisattva-- you attain buddhahood quite nonchalantly. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1348.0,1449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you mean that the bodhisattva like doesn't even enjoy satisfaction of that someone is happy, that someone is helped? I mean, is that completely ignored?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that doesn't apply anymore in this sense. Of course he had to be intelligent person if he is helping somebody. That we're allowed to see the progress that other person is making. He will be-- that would be quite clear, but he doesn't need further confirmation that what he is doing is right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1449.0,1486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: This whole talk would imply that you-- a bodhisattva needs a tremendous amount of preparation to sort of as it were lay the foundations. So that when he goes out and-- to help other people in that sense he definitely is well free from his neuroses, or he knows how to do that, handle his neuroses. That sort of a training ground -- could you just sort of elaborate on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that training ground is based on that of going through the hinayana process of discipline yourself, and certain realization of the negativity to being with, and there is suffering, there pain. And finally you begin to realize negativity is not hang-ups anymore, they become part of your path. Negativities become part of your training ground, so to speak. So it takes tremendous process of acknowledging the neurosis, and having seen the neurosis then relating with the neurosis, which is the hinayana process of basic practice of meditation and the meditation in action in the basic sense, in the ordinary sense. Which is very important from bodhisattva's point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But this wouldn't imply sort of a seclusion from an everyday world situation, everyday life situation for a considerable amount of time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, and at the same time it does in some sense, that you need some space. That occupations of life… if you're going to see the occupation of life as part of the path, you need some perspective view to see the occupation of life is be occupation of the path, in the fullest sense. So that is the providing gap of like practice of meditation or going to retreat or whatever it may be. And then you come back, you begin to see the occupation of life is being a creative process rather than negative or destructive, whatever have you. So that sort of needs a certain amount of renunciation, at the same time getting into it thoroughly and fully as well at the same time. So this had-- process seem to be alternating process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said something about realizing an occupation fully. What [INAUDIBLE WORDS] would you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's-- that is to say that living life and dealing with your body and dealing with your environment is part of the learning process, that they are not particularly regarded as villain, or bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1486.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: It seems that from my novice view of taking the bodhisattva vows, if I were to do it, it would be kind of holding out in a sense that I would still be hoping for a safe place somewhere. That implied in my helping fellow beings there would be a place where I, even if I describe it as egoless, I'm safe in a sense. That I've attained some sort of liberation. I'm wondering, you know, it would seem that I would be not taking the vows whilst taking them from this point of view. That until I achieve some sort-- a certain amount of realization of what the terms imply that I was vowing that it would be a lie in a sense. I-- you know, can-- could I do this validly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that also depends on how much you want to secure your vow, if your vow is judicious. But, hmm, at the same time you *can't* make it judicious.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: Judicious, in the sense that I'm committing myself to something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A proper and sane and sensible approach, at all. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: But if you're not quite sure what you're committing yourself to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: But in the normal meditation practice sometimes we say, you know, the vows. Is this in a ritual rather than real sense or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's both. You see the point is that you are taking a vow because you are not know-- You are not certain what you are doing ,therefore you take a vow, that acceptance of uncertainty. Other words, you don't need to [UNCLEAR: wear?] a vow. In other word if you do not know what you been-- what should be referred as, if you don't have a name. And because of that confusion someone give name. That then from then on you know what you will be pref-- referred as. So it's a question of that there is confusion, therefore you take a vow. So the confusion is inspiration to take a vow from this point of view. But at the same time doesn't have to be a hundred percent definite and solid.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: That's okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no other choice. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED BERNIE: So a certain amount of faith is required in-- that you arrive in this situation when you take the vow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Certain amount of faith, yeah -- faith in your un-faith.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1664.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche? There is a mythical story that goes-- that Ananda is going on his alms routine [laughter] and he happens to go to a house that hasn't got the-- such a reputation. And he sort of instinctively went to that house. Now according to this mythical story, the Buddha brings psychically, he brings Ananda back with the girl. [Laughter] And now he has them-- now he has them before him. And he goes to Ananda and he says, \"That's a falsity. That's a cause and effect, and you mustn't do that.\" [Laughter] Now what else in a mythical form can the Buddha say to Ananda, who is a finished monk at that time, and how could he infer to Ananda in saying, \"You mustn't do that,\" and continue his trip at the same time? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where did you get the story? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Oh, where I got the story?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I got the story from the Surangama Sutra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] so...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Surangama.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suran*gama.* Surangama Sutra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Wasn't Ananda under a spell though? He wasn't a totally developed buddha by that time then. He was lured there by a spell, it wasn't that he went there as in he--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: He should explain it to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, it wasn't like he went there under free will.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's saying the same thing in some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That everybody is in the spell of something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as there is inquisitive mind and impulse, you know, that is a spell. Well it seems that at the same time that kind of approach is furthering inspiration as far as Ananda is concerned. That somehow… it's like the story of monks having a highly polished begging bowls, and they look at themselves, the reflection of them, in the begging bowl, and their mind is being swayed by vanity. In same kind of thing, that there is always some kind of situation always happens. That distraction is always powerful, at the same time that when someone shakes you from the distraction, that also becomes powerful as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1860.0,2118.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: My question is sort of along the line of Bernie’s. That when you sort of see the inescapability of renouncing the idea of enlightenment because of the idea you have to get rid of the centralized notion of you're going to get enlightenment for your ego, you're going to develop selfhood. And so you want to take the vow that you renounce enlightenment for the sake of all sentient beings. And I always come up against the thing that because I sort of see the inescapability of doing that in order to get enlightenment, it becomes you know a complicated trick of some kind. Although in some sense it isn't because you really have to go through the process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's the whole point of intellect and experience or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --intuition, actual intuition. That certain-- such bodhisattvas might know, it will be quite obvious to that bodhisattva that if he wants attain enlightenment, completely, that he have to give up his notion of attainment of enlightenment. That will be understood by theoretical, philosophical from point of view. But when situation comes actually take a vow on this particular spot, that you be caught and you have to actually give up, wholeheartedly, in terms of taking a vow. It is quite different between from that you might die one day, you're going to die one day, and actually that someone says you are dying right now -- has an entirely different impact. And that usually always happens that theory and practice are-- have entirely different effect, that your philosophy doesn't have in particular at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, I see that, okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There a sense of that you are sinking because you give up the idea of attainment enlightenment, certain amount of fear. And you have to rise above it, somehow or other. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You said the final step to enlightenment is the-- is a leap of faith. When the bodhisattva gets to that point does he make the leap? Or does he see that and say, \"No, because of my vow I don't do it,\" and just start meditating, or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Start meditating? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I mean, how does he relate to his meditation [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any conflicts there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, I do [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: According to story in the literature, whatever I've got, from the source, they said the final step before enlightenment is a leap. A leap into space, which is a leap of faith. I assume that the bodhisattva would approach that, and then because of his vows does he turn away from the leap or does he make it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then you're regressing to the hinayana if you pull back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But you’re breaking your vow to go home.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That you're not adhering to your vows you go forward.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: One of those.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter] And supposedly some of these-- according to some stories that Shariputra was one of those who pulled back. And he was a bodhisattva, he took bodhisattva's vow. And he was terrified of the commitment and he regressed so he finally become arhat rather than a bodhisattva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2118.0,2375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What is the precise impetus for that leap? Is it involved in the vow itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose in the inspiration of the leap itself. That there is no other alternatives. It's the same analogy of that if you put a snake in the bamboo pipe, either it goes forward or comes backward. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Could snakes go backwards? I don't understand... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They try their best. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2375.0,2434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, Shantideva talks about bodhichitta and called it enlightenment [INAUDIBLE WORDS] kind of preliminary first step for the bodhisattva. Is that the same thing at this stage with the vow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's the attitude of bodhisattva. Is a preliminary step to get into the bodhisattva's practice, is to accept as that there *is* buddha nature, there is bodhi mentality, that you are acknowledging that is the open aperture towards enlightenment. Opposed to the hinayana's view of that self-containing practice, whatever it may be. And at that point when the-- when anybody in the mahayana authority talks about a bodhisattva vow, usually having a very biased attitude towards hinayana's mentality. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAs is said in by Shantideva the-- taking bodhisattva vow is attainment of enlightenment for the benefit of others, which consist of proceeding on a path and planning to proceed on the path, which is a twofold situation. The planning to proceed on the path, aspiration that we’ve discussed, and proceeding on the path is the practice of bodhisattva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2434.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How do the buddha families play a role in the hinayana process? [UNCLEAR: Acknowledging?] your buddha families [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't seem to be one, that is, particularly. I mean, let alone to see the differences between buddha families, but the buddha is very hypothetical thing in this case. That one is uncertain whether you can become buddha. And the-- as well as quite certain that you could become arhat. But it is uncertain whether you actually become buddha or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2540.0,2576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is it necessary to become an arhat before you can relate to being a bodhisattva?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Gampopa says that the guru arhat is the bodhisattva's guru, bodhisattvas included. Is it necessary to realize all those states before you go on to the next one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When it happens it is not a question of realizing it but automatically have those exposures.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Then one would be-- an arhat could be [UNCLEAR: extent?] to the Buddha’s disciples were, before one could take the bodhisattva path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Arhat become what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well the arhat of the-- in the sutras of Ananda-- well not Ananda, the other one. One would have to develop that far before one could journey on the bodhisattva path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2576.0,2632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Could you say what's meant in mahayana terms by an \"arhat\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahayana what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: In mahayana, from the mahayana point of view, what is the significance of the term \"arhat\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Arhat\" literally means \"he who conquered the enemy.\" And the enemy in this case is the-- any kind of exposed situation to seduction of the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And from the bodhisattva's point of view, that is regarded as seeking for bliss. That you could get stuck into this bliss, which is that arhats get through the four jnana state of bliss and finally you get stuck to the final jnana. Jnana, jnana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So that's something like similar to the realm of the gods?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Same sort of way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same sort of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2632.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What about the pratyekabuddhas? Is that the same thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pratyekabuddha is the practitioner who goes like the bodhisattva. Arhat is like buddhahood, that they attain arhat-ship going through the pratyekabuddha level process. The arhat level is divided into four types. That once-returning, and non-returning, and returning three lifetimes, whatever it may be, and so on. So it's a question of how much you able to eliminate the fascination to seduction. And whole thing is related with that cutting off the seduction rather than any beyond situation, anything at all. That arhats usually, according to the stories, that he takes a vow that he would not speak a word to anybody else, because speech is regarded as the exit to all kind of sin. And he does not go to the area where Buddha has taught, teaching. That he would like to attain himself buddhahood. And he can only show the teaching by examples rather than purely by communication. So he excludes himself from the world by all these austere practices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2697.0,2806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Is it possible to in a sense regress from being a bodhisattva to being an arhat, or say-- well let's say like once you’re a bodhisattva, do you-- are you always bodhisattva or is it... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's also depends on a list we could get through later on in the details of bodhisattva's path, that we could [UNCLEAR: go through? review?] the ten stages of bodhisattvas, later part of the seminar that we could discuss that. And it seems that up to the sixth level of bodhisattva you *can* regress. But beyond sixth bhumi you can't regress.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: And would that in a certain sense that up to the sixth level that involves constant watchfulness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Practice, yeah, practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: --watchfulness in some level. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Practice yeah. Yeah. Application.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definite practices, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2806.0,2870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, this question [UNCLEAR: may not be politest?]. If the hinayanaist attitude is self-centered then why is there a hinayanaist teaching? In other word why do hinayanists expound upon the teaching? Why do they set up monasteries if it wasn't for a kind of a gregarious attitude to help others?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that it is necessary to begin with centralized on you because there is all kinds of fascinations otherwise. That one doesn't know where to begin, so one begins from nearest situation which is yourself. You start on that level of discipline, narrow-mindedness, there is no other world but yourself, you are the only world, whole world. And to start on that very narrow-minded level. And because of that narrow-minded level of starting on the one basic principle becomes so powerful and overwhelming and inspiring in some sense. So then you could open and relax.\r\n\r\n\r\nBecause generally the relaxing process is more dangerous than-- and then exclusion. Exclusion means that you're getting into it more. The relaxing process leaves all kinds of frivolous situations. So then to begin with some kind of exclusion seem to be necessary from that sense. Like centralizing every approach to your practice is on the ego, rather than the dance of ego for instance, which could be interpreted mystical dance, or ego's dance, or it is a quite slippery situation. Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But still within the whole hinayana system there seems to to be an element of reaching out to other people to turn their mind to the teachings of hinayana, which seems to be basically mahayana then in attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well purely by their examples rather than communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2870.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But Rinpoche, are the [INAUDIBLE WORDS] sort of that he is doing similar work to what you are doing, in the sense that he is going out and communicating with people and-- I mean, actually, just trying to show them that \"look, there is something very much beyond what you think there *is*.\" And, I mean, that from your point-- I mean from the point of view-- in-- from this point of view, that would be sort of more mahayanist than Theravadin. But I don't think he'd consider himself a mahayanist. And so that-- could you say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's same thing, that he doesn't have to consider or doesn't have to put himself in the pigeonholes of anything. That-- that's exactly same thing what happens to the bodhisattvas. That when they give up the idea of attainment they find themselves one day attained enlightenment already. So in terms of the compassionate action of hinayanaist are concerned, and the expansion begin to develop, they find themselves being bodhisattvas. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=2989.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Does that take place in guru relationship, too? Like in the hinayana at the beginning you symbolize your involvement with yourself with one other person that you want to-- and this dissolves into-- that your involvement with yourself becomes more spacious, and the symbol of that involvement [INAUDIBLE WORDS] be less concerned with individual, one guy, guru, whatever, the whole situation. While the hinayanist would be more concerned-- I mean hinayanists within our tradition doing hinayana practice would be more concerned with [UNCLEAR: this guy?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that goes quite a long way, that goes quite a long way, and to the tantric approach that comes. That I think as far as the mahayana approach is concerned also same thing. That you’re dealing with one person in this point. Seem to be same thing. Until you have a discovery of tantric approach, when the universality of the guru becomes prominent automatically. Because in some sense from tantric's point of view of expansion, both hinayana *and* mahayana are regarded as narrow-minded approach. And some sense that you have direct faithful approach. You know, you become faithful to the teaching, you do your duties, so to speak. And you try to meet certain particular requirements according to the teaching. That discipline goes on constantly as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But are these really as separate categories as they sound or do they overlap?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well they do overlap but I mean basically, speaking for everyone--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --seem to be there is a category. But there will be certain unusual qualities of other people. All the different types of mentality of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I mean if you could find like one aspect of your life that's hinayana and another aspect of your life would be mahayana. I mean it just happens, it's not a really a step moving from one to the other.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It wouldn't be moving from one to but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: That communication is itself is a mahayana aspect, isn’t it? [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Compassionate, but still you have some regulations, some rules. Your style of communication is controlled and compassionate. And you don't allow any form of fooling with energy anymore. Which is mahayana approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But such a guy could be practicing doing a hinayana practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you like, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: And the whole thing just goes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hm, mhmm. If you like. [Laughter] Hmm!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3058.0,3227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: What is the relationship between a non-ego-oriented awareness and nondualistic awareness? Can there be one without the other?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego and dualistic seem to be same thing this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You mean that an awareness which makes the dualistic distinctions is necessarily ego-oriented per se?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah it is ego. I mean dualistic fixation, shall we say, is the ego. But I mean you have dualistic attitude to things -- seeing two, in other word -- dual situation. Like \"me\" and \"myself,\" and \"me\" and \"my relationships\" without [UNCLEAR: these disciples?]. Duality in its own way. But they are not regarded as dualistic fixations. So when we talk about dualistic -- which is not dualistic in the ordinary sense, but dualistic fixations, psychologically -- that you're clinging to the two and therefore there is conflict, which *is* ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: So a person could have a dualistic-- he could make dualistic distinctions but until he has his dualistic fixation, attraction and driving away, the ego wouldn't develop.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Person had what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: A person could-- a consciousness could make the dualistic distinctions, but until it became attractive to-- it became-- it had a dualistic fixation, the ego wouldn't go.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there's possibilities of that. Ego *is* made out of dualistic fixations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well I was thinking that the fact that I see a difference between \"this\" and \"that\" does not mean that I'm attracted to \"this\" and repulsed by \"that.\" And that the ego would only arise out as a function of this attraction and repulsion. So this consciousness could still be seeing the world with many separate qualities without being necessarily ego-oriented.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we are reaching too far from the point of view. That we are uncertain what really do we mean there is no fixations but you just perceive things dualistically. That's very subtle. And somehow that that also comes in the category of dualistic fixation is concept that you put on things. Not only you're not [INAUDIBLE WORDS] reject or accepting but you have certain labels fixed on them which makes \"this\" and \"that\" very thick and smeared with all kinds of defense mechanisms as well on top of it. So that's also dualistic fixation as far as that's concerned. \"Table\" is \"table\" and \"chair\" is \"chair.\" But we don't see \"table\" as \"table\" and \"chair\" as \"chair\" but we have ideas of \"table.\" Ideas of \"chair.\" So that thing becomes very solid thing. But at the same time you don't repel the chair and accept the table particularly. But it doesn't based on that kind of game at all. Just natural instinct to makes things as definite, solid, remote things as they are in the confused sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: That instinct for making things solid is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That *is* the fixation itself. And because of those [UNCLEAR: basically?] then you fight for it. You have definite ideas of it. You see what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3227.0,3486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I was a little disturbed when you said that to go to the bodhisattva path you had to go through the arhat stage, because I had the impression somehow that almost at the very beginning of the spiritual path there might-- I mean you could approach it with several different attitudes. One of which might head you more toward the arhat business and the other would tend more toward giving up the idea of attainment for yourself. And on our particular level where generally we are now, I mean what is the difference between-- or is it the case that there is a difference in the attitude we would have towards spirituality which would tend more toward bodhisattva or arhat kind of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say necessarily you have to attain arhat-ship so to speak. But there is the hinayana principle which bounds us together. Get away from the sidetracks, which is always necessary. And because of that process therefore that we are enable to get into the bodhisattva's path naturally, natural process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: So arhat-ship here in this case is something like what you call \"fundamental sanity\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, this case, yeah. I have a body, I breathe, therefore I use my body and the breath as my meditation practice. And it doesn't matter about helping other people in particular in this case. Just your own hang-ups so therefore deal with yourself *first* before you get to anybody else. Don't make yourself nuisance to others. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3486.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Rinpoche, how does a bodhisattva decide where he is going to invest his energies? I mean does he just [UNCLEAR: do it?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say both. It depends on his insight, which coincide with the situation. I mean if you can't say sort of set patterns about bodhisattvas ought to be or should be, but he have to work with individual situations. That's where the knowledge, prajna, applies constantly. The transcendental knowledge applies constantly. That that kind of sharp, ken-- keen precision, which either selects individual situations or else relates with the general situation, whatever it may be. So we can't determine by that just general notion, but had to be related with the individual things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] he had [INAUDIBLE WORDS] say between his-- you know in a situation where he felt that it-- there was some need of his [INAUDIBLE WORDS] say than someone who was unrelated [INAUDIBLE WORDS] at the same time. Where will he choose and how he--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's dependent on what's the-- what’s skillful thing to do. Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3600.0,3681.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: When there seems to be no basis for decisions, then where does one learn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you turn to the no-decision. That in itself becomes the decision.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Is that always possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, as long as you know who you are, what you are. Or as long as you know that you are not centered. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3681.0,3716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64011/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Might stop at that point and discuss tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3716.0,3714.30519"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720327VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=0.73,3.079"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nThe Bodhisattva Path, held at\nTail of the Tiger, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=4.34,8.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\nMarch 27th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=8.65,12.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade July 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=14.07,18.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy 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That you have--\nyou're not expecting\nany kind of reward of anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1434.84,1439.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you just do it,\nyou attain bodhisattva--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=1440.17,1442.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you attain buddhahood\nquite 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If you like.\n Hmm!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3212.4,3216.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21:\nWhat is the relationship","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3227.26,3228.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between a\nnon-ego-oriented 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Where will\nhe choose and how he--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3666.9,3671.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell that's dependent\non what's the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670#t=3671.8,3673.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121529/file/226670/transcript/64012/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what’s skillful thing to 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