{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/183416vz0m/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1974-04-01: Public Talk: The Myth of Freedom"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1974-04-01"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["San Francisco, California, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Talk"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/322/show\"\u003ePublic Talks\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["The Myth of Freedom"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Foundations"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExplores the myth of freedom through the concept of \"this\" (this-ness; This with a capital T). Despite exhaustive efforts -- through spiritual materialism and philosophical pursuits -- to understand whether freedom is a myth, or to pin down the meaning of \"This,\" we find no definitive answers. Offers experiential descriptions of \"This\" as sometimes enigmatic, sometimes obvious; sometimes wretched, sometimes good. Explains that \"This\" actually is the myth of freedom -- sometimes a myth, sometimes reality; sometimes nothing, sometimes everything. Our main project, then, is to find out who and what \"This\" is, but rather than thinking \"This is me\" or \"This is her,\" the Buddha's message is to regard \"This\" as just \"this.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 05 2024 to Feb 21 2026 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExplores the myth of freedom through the concept of \"this\" (this-ness; This with a capital T). Despite exhaustive efforts -- through spiritual materialism and philosophical pursuits -- to understand whether freedom is a myth, or to pin down the meaning of \"This,\" we find no definitive answers. Offers experiential descriptions of \"This\" as sometimes enigmatic, sometimes obvious; sometimes wretched, sometimes good. Explains that \"This\" actually is the myth of freedom -- sometimes a myth, sometimes reality; sometimes nothing, sometimes everything. Our main project, then, is to find out who and what \"This\" is, but rather than thinking \"This is me\" or \"This is her,\" the Buddha's message is to regard \"This\" as just \"this.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260331-1167548-df53km.mpga"]},"duration":2641.52056,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/306/995/original/open-uri20260331-1167548-df53km.mpga?1774976200","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2641.52056,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740401VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740401VCTR1 - Public Talk - San Francisco - The Myth of Freedom]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public talk entitled \"The Myth of Freedom,\" given in San Francisco, California on April 1st, 1974. This is a CTI custom remaster made February 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=0.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight, we are going to discuss the subject of myth of freedom. It is very extensive subject. What does it mean by \"myth\"? What does it mean by \"freedom\"? Some people, hopefully, would think that freedom is not myth anymore -- it's real. And on the other hand some people think that freedom is myth. That there is no hope, there is no possibilities of getting out of *this*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=23.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scientists, philosophers, psychologists, as well as theologians, have worked extremely hard, extremely hard, to find out whether freedom is a myth or not. There's all kind of-- all kinds of laboratories. All kinds of programs. All kinds of books that had been written on this topic, that trying to find out whether if we could *capture* freedom. Make sure it's not myth -- it's something real that, as much as real as that you had a flea in between your fingers. That it is life, a flea that you have in between your fingers. That now you *have* the freedom; you've got it. \"I've got it! You got it. [Laughter] It's there!\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=137.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That has become also enormous inspiration and enormous promises in a sense that we are not just indulging our life, but we are actually taking *some* kind of interest in the meaning of life. That's good; somebody is really concerned about the basic necessity of metaphysical world, spiritual world, whatever. But at the same time it is very destructive at the same time, that we-- when we begin to look into such a situation and work from such angle, that it becomes obstacle to us. Our own search becomes our own obstacle. And that has become always the problem. Enormous problem. That looking for promise becomes obstacle. Disappointment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=245.0,314.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand you could say if you are looking for disappointment, and obstacle, it might be a promise. But that logic somehow sometimes it works. Sometimes it quite doesn't work, and there's something is not quite clicking. That you can't play tricks with the universe, or to reality for that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=314.0,352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation, yoga, psychotherapy. Sportsmanship. Creative art. All those angles that we're trying to tackle, trying to find out whether freedom is a myth or not, has provided *further* myth in fact, if we believe or not. And that has become our problem, ladies and gentlemen. [Laughs] And now we are enormous problem, that we have exhausted all kinds of possibilities, and we haven't found out anything really that actually works, functions and proves hundred percent. And we are in enormous problem. We thought we'd found it and then thought we lost it, at the same time. Each time we found it, we lost it, at the same time. Each time we thought we lost it we found it, but then we lost *again*. [Laughter] What shall we do? What *shall* we do? [Laughter] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=352.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the meantime, our domestic life, educational life, financial life is deteriorating. [Laughter] Wrack our brain. \"There must be *something*; there *got* to be something. There must be something.\" Trying to recite the sacred names of god, profusely. Trying to spend hours and hours and hours reading writings of a word of the wisdom. Many times. And trying to practice all kinds of discipline that has been prescribed, supposedly to be expression of freedom, or promise of freedom constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=451.0,533.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Maybe we should take a trip in the desert. Maybe you should go to a retreat. Maybe you should take trip to India, Japan. Maybe should join some kind of spiritual commune, community life.\" All kinds of possibilities is enormous. That there is all kinds of things we could do, and we begin to do that, and we begin to get into them. And we will say, \"Ahh, maybe this is it. Thank God.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=533.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Week or later, day or later, we find ourselves back to square one. [Laughter] Then we get extremely angry. \"Somebody must have cheated us. Conning us. Maybe this whole thing is a bowl of shit.\" [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=600.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I must ask for your forgiveness, and your promise. That even this point where we are together, that I personally -- that you expected a lot -- have no answers. [Laughs; laughter; applause] In fact [laughter], whether you believe it or not, that nobody has answer. Of course lot of people have answer which is no answer. Non-answer. That is to say, it's not all that mystical thing, that no answer means something. But actually they have no answer. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=670.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why we might call this a myth of freedom. That freedom is purely myth. There is no such thing as freedom. If you are smart enough you might say, \"Since there is no such thing as freedom, isn't that the case there is no such thing as imprisonment either?\" But that is very dangerous thing to say. You are trying to use Zen logic backward. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=770.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe there is something in this -- in \"this\", whatever that is. Which we seem to all of us know. When we talk about \"this\", that we seem to have some sore spot somewhere. That we know when we talk about \"this\" that you know automatically what we are talking about -- \"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=832.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How about this thing that bothers us, that confuses us? What is this thing that we trying to solve our problems, we trying to solve \"this\". We trying to find the meaning of \"this.\" What is \"this\"? What is \"this\"? [Laughs] And everybody have a vague ideas of what is \"this\". In fact everybody know quite clearly, but they probably, sometimes, trying to ignore, and you might ask a question, \"What do you mean by 'this'?\" But still you know very well what mean-- we mean by \"this.\" There is something happening here, which is *this* is happening -- \"This\" with capital \"T\". In everybody’s mind, people came here, trying to listen to such a talk, entitled \"Myth of Freedom.\" And you want to find out what is This. And we know; let us not deceive ourselves. We know; we want to find out what *This* is. This thing, this thingy. This thing. That something that we can't pinpoint, but actually it is \"This\", that we can point out if you really wanted. [Laughs] We know it quite very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=865.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"this\", we sometimes find out nothing, sometimes we find out \"this\" is *everything*. But still there is this-ness. \"Sometimes 'this' is kind to me, this actually is good, and feels good having *this* with us. And sometimes we feel is extraordinarily wretched. Having 'this' with us feels extremely uncomfortable and depressing and terrible. We have 'this' with us.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=975.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes because we have \"this,\" therefore we become more vigorous. You want to find out more about spirituality, discipline, enlightenment, meditation, occultism, mysticism. The meanings about life and everything because we have \"This.\" [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [A child] Pee pee! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1017.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seem to be the point is, discussing about \"this.\" This \"thing\" that we have. Unnamable. Enigmatic. Sometimes too obvious, painfully too obvious. Maybe \"this\" is the myth of freedom. That we have no idea as to whether we should get rid of \"this\", or whether we should nurse \"this\". We have a constant love-and-light, or constant hate and fearsome experience with *this*. \"This going to be saved, therefore I'm going to be saved. But 'this' going to be destroyed, therefore I'm going to be freed.\" And this thing we are talking about is becomes the biggest problem. It's not question of problem is whether liberation exists or freedom exists, but whether \"this\" is real \"this\" or whether \"this\" is something that we have just created out of our concept and ideas, as such. It seem to be most reasonable thing to do, is that sooner we realize that we cannot solve the problem of \"this\". And the sooner we give up hope of solving the problem of \"this\", \"this thing\". the sooner we give up the hope is the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1087.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might ask, which is saying, \"Can you tell us what 'this' is?\" And I don't think I can answer you that question, what \"this\" is. Because \"this\" is a difference people’s point of view of this. So one cannot answer questions as a basic statement. That you have different types of \"this\", \"this thing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1225.0,1268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the other hand very exciting thing that has developed throughout the 2,500 years of Buddhist training, and wisdom that had developed, and so forth, that there is enormous promises, working with \"this.\" Is just purely regarded \"this\" as *this*, simply. [Laughing] I mean, that's quite true, actually. And \"this is this\"; why don't regard \"this is this.\" Rather than \"this is me\" or \"this is her\" or \"this is my enemy, this is my friend\"? But just why don't we regard \"this\" as just *this*. And that is the message of the Buddha. And regarding \"this\" as \"this\"; simply \"this.\" And this will remind you to recognize you, acknowledge you, acknowledge \"this.\" But don't bother; just call it \"this.'\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1268.0,1354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This thing we are talking about is -- what? Nothing. Actually \"this\" is the myth of freedom. \"This\" is sometimes myth and \"this\" is sometimes reality. Sometimes \"this\" doesn't exist; sometimes \"this\" is the promise of everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1354.0,1414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes you could identify with \"this\" as \"you\". This you, sitting, sitting on the chairs, and listening to this particular public talk. And \"this\" is sitting on the other end of the hall, giving a talk. \"This\" paid money as you come in; sometimes *you* paid money when you come in. [Laughs] And there is a conflict with whether \"this\" is you or not, is the basic confusion of freedom, imprisonment. But why don't we call this as just purely \"this.\" That thing goes on in our life. \"'This thing' forgot to buy grocery.\" \"'This thing' forgot to buy a loaf of bread. But that thing had not forgotten buy rest of the errand. Bought everything; but this thing forgotten buy loaf of bread.\" \"*That* thing was very conscientious good driver. But this thing came along into our state of mind, then we had an accident. We ran into a problem.\" \"And this particular is a scapegoat of some kind. Which is very powerful one, very, very *genuine* one in fact.\" And it seem to be that working with this \"thing\" is extremely important one, valuable one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1414.0,1558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I fall asleep, but 'this' dreamt for me.\" \"I went to a lecture, a talk, but 'this' wouldn't let me to listen, to contents of the talk. 'This' keep on talking to me constantly, behind my head.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1558.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ladies and gentlemen, let us find out who \"this\" is. And this is your project. And let us find out who \"this\" is -- this \"thing\" is. And I think that would help you, will save you from lot of problems. And shopping around on all kinds of spiritual markets, spiritual materialistic world. If you look into what \"this\" is all about. And let us find out. And there is no clear definition what \"this\" is even. It is something that connected with you obviously. But at the same time it is something *not* connected with you, because this tend to function quite independent to you sometimes; in fact it begin to haunt you, some point. So, let us find out.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd if you have any questions, this particular talk, I would be glad to answer your questions, in connection with \"this\" and *us*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1601.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Why is \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: [Repeating questions] Why is this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? [laughter] Everybody has a right to exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: A friend of mine works in Vacaville [Prison] and says I should escape *into* the prison.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: A friend of mine works in Vacaville -- he says I should escape *into* prison.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's saying the same thing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1725.0,1798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It seemed before that you said that our searching or seeking, those were part of the problem, and then you suggest that we should seek to see what \"this\" is. That seems like a contradiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: You said before-- could you try that again so I could get it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said before that seeking was part of the problem. And then you suggest that seeking was fine, but [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: You said before that seeking was a problem, and now you're saying that we should seek. That seems to be a contradiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seeking is a problem obviously, definitely. Because by seeking you have discovered, you pick up \"this.\" [Laughter] But then we might find out on the process of our seeking, who \"this\" is. Which might be easier for your journey. If our car doesn't run properly, you might fix and stop at some gasoline station, to find out what's the problem is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1798.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I don't understand it. Can you talk a little more about the whole process of seeking? Does seeking become blinding?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I don't understand that. Can you speak more about the whole process of seeking, if seeking becomes blinding?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seeking is a very positive thing, to begin with. But at the same time, if you seek too much, then you have no idea what you are seeking. And your subplots begin to haunt you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1893.0,1938.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What brand of sake are you drinking? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: What brand of sake are you drinking? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Chrysanthemum of course! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you tell us what you've decided about \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Would you what you've decided about \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why sure! [laughter] This! [laughter; applause] At least we found who \"it\" is. Instead of calling \"it,\" it becomes \"this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is it possible to tell us little bit about \"that\"? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Could you please tell us a little about \"that\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"That\" is connected with if we understand what \"this\" is to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1938.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: To keep from seeking too much, is it best to rely on intuition? To keep from seeking too much, is it best to rely on intuition, or seek something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: To keep from seeking too much, is it best to rely on the intuition, or something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid that is also seeking. An empty search. And the best thing, do not seek, but trying to find out what \"this\" is. [Laughter] The whole question is that we don't have any educational problems exactly. That we have to find out, basically, that what \"this\" is. But don't try to seek or solve problems, particularly, but we have to find out what \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2015.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is the discovery of \"this\" freedom, or is it beyond \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Is the discovery of \"this\" freedom, or is it beyond \"this\"? [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or is what? Or is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Is the discovery of \"this\" freedom, or is it beyond this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's both. It's possible. Don't give up hope. [Laughter] You are just about to get into it. Get onto the path -- do it. You can do it. [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2094.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is it possible to know God?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Is it possible to know God?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by knowing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The experience that there is such a being.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: The experience that there is such a being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Experience what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: The experience that there is such a being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such a bean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Such a *be*ing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure about a being, or entity. But quite possibly a lot of people would feel extraordinarily freaked out, and paranoid and loss of their ground, when they begin to realize this \"thing\", \"this\" is groundless. Just puffed-up showmanship. And a gigantic balloon -- balloon, floating in the air. There is the possibilities of that disappointment, which we couldn't say-- we couldn't say \"this is the being.\" But maybe this is the best of the being, is by *not* being. Not being in a sense; give up ground, and dissociate with \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2134.0,2251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Did you come to sit here on a red chair and talk about \"this,\" when every gesture you make shows that you know \"this\" is a bowl of shit?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Did you come to sit here on a red chair, and to talk about \"this,\" but every gesture that you make says that \"this\" is a bowl of shit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess is as good as mine. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2251.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Should we lose our heads and get into \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Should we lose our heads to get into this?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Excuse me -- I didn't say \"to\", that probably important -- should we lose our heads, *and* get into \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Should we lose our heads, *and* get into \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Depends on if we have any heads left, after this. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2310.0,2343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you call this [INAUDIBLE], so we're aware that you [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I missed the first part. I missed the first part -- can you repeat it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you call this Theater of the Absurd?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: What do you call this Theater of the Absurd-- would you call this the Theater of the Absurd?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And if so, where is the audience?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: And if so, where is the audience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't quite call it \"absurd.\" I think I might call it Theater of the *Real*. And therefore the audience are here already. I can see them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you call the question absurd then?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Would you call the question absurd then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Would you call the question absurd then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything they say. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2343.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Are you suggesting that when you're saying \"stop seeking\", that meditation or disciplines of any kind are not necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Are you suggesting that when you say \"stop seeking\", that meditation and disciplines are unnecessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the opposite. Meditation and discipline are utmost important, this point. In order to lose any further reference point, and exaggerating \"this\". That you have to sit on \"this\", work with this. So finally this doesn't become any more important; you are sitting on a bubble. And \"this\" becomes less \"this\", some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2413.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How does one center meditation in \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: How to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Center meditation in \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: How does one center meditation in \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You just do it. Sit, and do it. It doesn't matter whether \"this\" is here or there. Quite possible this will be here *and* there -- *or* there. Doesn't really matter; just sit and do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2484.0,2528.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92464/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At this point probably we should close our meeting actually, because we run out of time, so to speak. [Laughter] And I hope a lot of your people's questions that you're-- dying questions that you want to ask, probably could be solved by trying to sit down and slow down your speed, and review yourself tomorrow, and tonight. And nothing can be answered particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I would like to thank everybody being so patient and taking part in this particular talk. And I'm also extremely happy, grateful, that we have a chance to discuss what \"this\" is, [laughter] and think about that. [Laughter] And it takes a long time, to figure out what \"this\" is. But it is worthwhile; it's a genuine thing. This is genuine thing. \"This\" may not be genuine thing. But trying to find out what \"this\" is, please. And I will be grateful if you could look into it more closely, and find out what \"this\" is. And maybe next round of my journey here, we could extend the conclusions what \"this\" might *be*, or \"this\" may not be anything at all. So, take care of yourself. Thank you very much. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2528.0,2641.52056"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740401VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=0.67,3.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public talk entitled\n\"The Myth of Freedom,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=3.99,7.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in San Francisco,\nCalifornia on April 1st, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=7.71,14.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made February 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=14.29,23.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight,\nwe are going to discuss\nthe subject of myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=23.56,36.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is very extensive\nsubject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=46.88,57.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What does it mean by \"myth\"?\nWhat does it mean by \"freedom\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=65.96,73.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some people, hopefully,\nwould think that freedom","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=83.12,94.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is not myth anymore --\nit's real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=94.83,102.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the other hand\nsome people\nthink that freedom is myth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=107.42,112.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is no hope,\nthere is no possibilities\nof getting out of *this*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=116.99,123.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scientists, philosophers,\npsychologists,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=137.97,146.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as well as theologians,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=157.49,165.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have worked extremely hard,\nextremely hard,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=169.15,179.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to find out whether freedom\nis a myth or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=179.1,186.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's all kind of--\nall kinds of laboratories.\nAll kinds of programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=186.41,194.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All kinds of books that had been\nwritten on this topic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=194.24,198.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that trying to find out\nwhether if we could\n*capture* freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=198.38,204.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Make sure it's not myth --\nit's something real that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=204.61,208.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as much as real\nas that you had a flea\nin between your fingers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=208.94,213.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it is life,\na flea that you have in\nbetween your fingers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=213.52,218.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That now you *have* the freedom;\nyou've got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=218.41,222.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I've got it! You got it.\n[Laughter] It's there!\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=222.66,231.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That has become also\nenormous inspiration\nand enormous promises in a sense","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=245.1,252.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we are not\njust indulging our life,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=252.78,260.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we are actually taking\n*some* kind of interest\nin the meaning of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=260.33,266.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's good; somebody\nis really concerned","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=266.57,269.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about the basic necessity\nof metaphysical world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=269.07,273.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spiritual world, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=273.96,278.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time it is very\ndestructive at the same time,\nthat we--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=278.53,286.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when we begin to look\ninto such a situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=286.1,289.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and work from such angle,\nthat it becomes obstacle to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=289.75,295.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our own search becomes\nour own obstacle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=295.7,301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that has become\nalways the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=301.0,303.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Enormous problem.\nThat looking for promise\nbecomes obstacle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=303.91,311.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Disappointment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=311.03,314.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand\nyou could say if you are\nlooking for disappointment,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=314.6,318.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and obstacle,\nit might be a promise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=318.55,321.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that logic somehow\nsometimes it works.\nSometimes it quite doesn't work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=321.21,327.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and there's something\nis not quite clicking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=327.29,331.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you can't play tricks\nwith the universe,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=331.68,338.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or to reality\nfor that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=338.49,342.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation, yoga, psychotherapy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=352.63,361.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sportsmanship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=361.23,364.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Creative art.\nAll those angles that\nwe're trying to tackle,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=369.48,378.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to find out whether\nfreedom is a myth or not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=378.65,383.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has provided *further* myth\nin fact, if we believe or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=383.55,391.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that has become our problem,\nladies and gentlemen.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=393.58,402.161"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And now we are enormous problem,\nthat we have exhausted\nall kinds of possibilities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=403.7,411.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we haven't found out\nanything really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=411.86,415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that actually works, functions\nand proves hundred percent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=415.0,420.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we are in\nenormous problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=420.94,424.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We thought we'd found it\nand then thought we lost it,\nat the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=424.08,428.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Each time we found it,\nwe lost it, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=428.97,433.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Each time we thought\nwe lost it we found it,\nbut then we lost *again*.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=433.34,440.435"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What shall we do?\nWhat *shall* we do?\n[Laughter]\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=440.435,449.127"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the meantime,\nour domestic life,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=451.4,456.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"educational life,\nfinancial life is deteriorating.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=456.96,470.985"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wrack our brain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=476.525,478.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"There must be *something*;\nthere *got* to be something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=478.32,483.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There must be something.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=486.29,489.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to recite the sacred\nnames of god, profusely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=492.43,503.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to spend hours and hours\nand hours reading writings\nof a word of the wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=503.39,510.836"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Many times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=512.29,515.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And trying to practice\nall kinds of discipline\nthat has been prescribed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=517.43,521.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supposedly to be expression\nof freedom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=521.68,524.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or promise of freedom\nconstantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=524.58,528.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Maybe we should take a trip\nin the desert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=533.04,537.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe you should go\nto a retreat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=542.86,546.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe you should take trip\nto India, Japan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=546.89,552.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe should join some kind\nof spiritual commune,\ncommunity life.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=555.13,563.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All kinds of possibilities\nis enormous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=565.97,570.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is all kinds\nof things we could do,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=570.36,573.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we begin to do that,\nand we begin to get into them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=573.91,579.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we will say,\n\"Ahh, maybe this is it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=579.44,584.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank God.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=584.86,593.366"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Week or later, day or later,\nwe find ourselves back\nto square one.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=600.14,612.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we get extremely angry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=613.52,616.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Somebody must have cheated us.\nConning us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=616.49,626.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe this whole thing\nis a bowl\nof shit.\" [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=626.13,670.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I must ask for your forgiveness,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=670.39,675.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and your promise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=683.23,686.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That even this point\nwhere we are together,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=686.69,691.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I personally --\nthat you expected a lot --\nhave no answers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=691.66,703.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughs; laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=703.16,712.942"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact [laughter],\nwhether you believe it or not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=719.47,727.667"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that nobody has answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=728.53,732.764"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course lot of people\nhave answer which is no answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=735.17,740.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non-answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=743.46,747.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is to say, it's not\nall that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=747.09,751.005"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mystical thing,\nthat no answer means something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=751.005,754.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But actually\nthey have no answer.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=754.16,762.636"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why we might call this\na myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=770.74,780.485"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That freedom\nis purely myth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=784.61,789.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is no such thing\nas freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=789.12,793.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you are smart enough\nyou might say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=796.97,800.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Since there is no such thing\nas freedom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=800.1,802.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"isn't that the case\nthere is no such thing\nas imprisonment either?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=802.81,807.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that is very dangerous\nthing to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=807.43,811.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You are trying to use\nZen logic backward.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=811.74,821.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe there is something\nin this --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=832.99,837.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in \"this\", whatever that is.\nWhich we seem to all of us know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=837.97,844.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about \"this\",\nthat we seem to have\nsome sore spot somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=844.28,850.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we know when we talk\nabout \"this\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=850.41,852.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you know automatically\nwhat we are talking about --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=852.13,855.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=855.46,857.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How about this thing\nthat bothers us,\nthat confuses us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=865.89,875.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=875.05,876.973"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing that we trying to solve\nour problems,\nwe trying to solve \"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=879.08,885.215"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We trying to find\nthe meaning of \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=885.215,887.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is \"this\"? What is \"this\"?\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=887.69,894.604"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And everybody have a vague ideas\nof what is \"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=894.604,898.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact everybody\nknow quite clearly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=898.75,901.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but they probably, sometimes,\ntrying to ignore,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=901.71,908.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you might ask a question,\n\"What do you mean by 'this'?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=908.74,912.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But still you know very well\nwhat mean-- we mean by \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=912.32,916.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is something\nhappening here,\nwhich is *this* is happening --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=916.48,922.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"This\" with capital \"T\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=922.35,926.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In everybody’s mind,\npeople came here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=926.72,929.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to listen to such a talk,\nentitled \"Myth of Freedom.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=929.98,935.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you want to find out\nwhat is This.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=935.45,940.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we know;\nlet us not deceive ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=942.49,946.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We know; we want to find out\nwhat *This* is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=946.23,949.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This thing, this thingy.\nThis thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=949.37,954.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That something\nthat we can't pinpoint,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=954.27,956.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but actually it is \"This\",\nthat we can point out\nif you really wanted.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=956.16,961.842"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We know it quite very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=962.521,966.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"this\", we sometimes find\nout nothing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=969.11,975.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sometimes we find out\n\"this\" is *everything*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=975.64,982.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But still there is this-ness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=982.16,986.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Sometimes 'this' is kind to me,\nthis actually is good,\nand feels good having\n*this* with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=989.24,998.275"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes we feel\nis extraordinarily wretched.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=998.56,1002.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having 'this' with us\nfeels extremely uncomfortable\nand depressing and terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1002.47,1009.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have 'this' with us.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1009.34,1012.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes\nbecause we have \"this,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1017.25,1019.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore we become\nmore vigorous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1019.4,1021.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You want to find out\nmore about spirituality,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1021.7,1025.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"discipline, enlightenment,\nmeditation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1025.35,1030.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"occultism, mysticism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1030.31,1034.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The meanings about life\nand everything because we have\n\"This.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1036.87,1042.413"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Unknown gesture or incident;\nlaughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1042.64,1050.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: [A child] Pee pee!\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1056.6,1065.603"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seem to be the point is,\ndiscussing about \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1086.92,1092.762"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This \"thing\" that we have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1095.845,1099.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unnamable. Enigmatic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1101.92,1107.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes too obvious,\npainfully too obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1107.37,1113.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe \"this\" is\nthe myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1119.43,1124.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have no idea\nas to whether we should\nget rid of \"this\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1128.33,1135.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or whether we should\nnurse \"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1135.68,1139.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a constant\nlove-and-light,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1139.23,1142.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or constant hate\nand fearsome experience\nwith *this*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1142.27,1147.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"This going to be saved,\ntherefore I'm going to be saved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1147.38,1151.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But 'this' going to be\ndestroyed, therefore\nI'm going to be freed.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1151.03,1155.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this thing\nwe are talking about\nis becomes the biggest problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1155.91,1163.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not question of problem\nis whether liberation exists\nor freedom exists,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1163.33,1168.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but whether \"this\"\nis real \"this\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1168.05,1171.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or whether \"this\" is something\nthat we have just created\nout of our concept\nand ideas, as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1171.16,1180.871"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be most reasonable\nthing to do,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1190.24,1194.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that sooner we realize\nthat we cannot solve\nthe problem of \"this\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1194.89,1206.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the sooner we give up hope\nof solving\nthe problem of \"this\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1209.54,1215.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"this thing\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1215.09,1218.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the sooner we give up\nthe hope is the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1218.32,1225.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might ask, which is saying,\n\"Can you tell us\nwhat 'this' is?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1225.32,1232.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I don't think I can\nanswer you that question,\nwhat \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1236.16,1243.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because \"this\" is a difference\npeople’s point of view of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1243.62,1249.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one cannot answer questions\nas a basic statement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1249.09,1261.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you have different types\nof \"this\", \"this thing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1261.05,1268.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the other hand\nvery exciting thing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1268.57,1271.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that has developed\nthroughout the 2,500 years\nof Buddhist training,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1271.29,1278.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and wisdom that had developed,\nand so forth,\nthat there is enormous promises,\nworking with \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1278.44,1286.595"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is just purely regarded \"this\"\nas *this*,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1288.1,1292.011"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"simply.\n[Laughing] I mean,\nthat's quite true, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1292.011,1297.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"this is this\";\nwhy don't regard\n\"this is this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1297.09,1300.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rather than \"this is me\"\nor \"this is her\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1300.59,1302.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or \"this is my enemy,\nthis is my friend\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1302.49,1305.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But just why don't we regard\n\"this\" as just *this*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1305.82,1311.402"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is the message\nof the Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1312.33,1316.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And regarding \"this\" as \"this\";\nsimply \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1316.39,1322.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this will remind you\nto recognize you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1322.12,1326.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"acknowledge you,\nacknowledge \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1326.6,1330.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But don't bother;\njust call it \"this.'","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1330.41,1336.503"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Unknown gesture or incident;\nlaughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1341.88,1346.717"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This thing we are talking about\nis -- what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1354.2,1359.509"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1361.45,1364.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually \"this\" is\nthe myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1370.26,1376.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"This\" is sometimes myth and\n\"this\" is sometimes reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1378.61,1384.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes \"this\" doesn't exist;\nsometimes \"this\"\nis the promise of everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1386.3,1395.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes you could identify\nwith \"this\" as \"you\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1414.74,1420.335"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This you, sitting,\nsitting on the chairs,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1422.75,1432.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and listening to this\nparticular public talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1432.16,1436.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"this\" is sitting\non the other end of the hall,\ngiving a talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1436.49,1443.866"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"This\" paid money\nas you come in;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1446.79,1451.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sometimes *you* paid money\nwhen you come in.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1451.68,1456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is a conflict\nwith whether\n\"this\" is you or not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1461.7,1466.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the basic confusion\nof freedom, imprisonment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1466.18,1472.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But why don't we call this\nas just purely \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1472.41,1478.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That thing goes on in our life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1478.09,1482.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"'This thing' forgot\nto buy grocery.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1482.19,1487.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"'This thing' forgot\nto buy a loaf of bread.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1491.6,1497.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that thing had not forgotten\nbuy rest of the errand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1497.83,1504.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bought everything;\nbut this thing forgotten\nbuy loaf of bread.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1504.17,1510.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"*That* thing was\nvery conscientious good driver.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1512.66,1518.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this thing came along\ninto our state of mind,\nthen we had an accident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1518.41,1524.206"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We ran into a problem.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1526.2,1529.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"And this particular\nis a scapegoat of some kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1531.74,1537.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is very powerful\none, very,\nvery *genuine* one in fact.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1537.22,1543.495"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seem to be that working\nwith this \"thing\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1545.27,1549.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is extremely important one,\nvaluable one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1549.41,1555.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I fall asleep,\nbut 'this' dreamt for me.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1558.12,1566.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I went to a lecture, a talk,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1574.87,1579.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but 'this' wouldn't let me\nto listen,\nto contents of the talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1579.06,1585.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"'This' keep on talking to me\nconstantly, behind my head.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1585.15,1591.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ladies and gentlemen, let us\nfind out who \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1601.05,1605.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is your project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1605.02,1610.742"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And let us find out\nwho \"this\" is --\nthis \"thing\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1613.65,1619.769"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that would help you,\nwill save you\nfrom lot of problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1621.28,1627.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And shopping around on all kinds\nof spiritual markets,\nspiritual materialistic world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1627.42,1633.472"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you look into what \"this\"\nis all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1634.44,1638.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And let us find out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1638.62,1641.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is no clear definition\nwhat \"this\" is even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1641.6,1650.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is something that connected\nwith you obviously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1650.41,1655.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time\nit is something\n*not* connected with you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1655.26,1658.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because this tend to function\nquite independent\nto you sometimes;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1658.73,1662.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in fact it begin to haunt you,\nsome point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1662.37,1666.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, let us find out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1666.93,1670.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you have any questions,\nthis particular talk,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1670.77,1676.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would be glad\nto answer your questions,\nin connection with \"this\"\nand *us*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1676.81,1684.768"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Why is \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1725.43,1726.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: [Repeating questions]\nWhy is this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1726.82,1731.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1735.47,1742.422"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody has a right to exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1748.98,1752.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: A friend of mine\nworks in Vacaville [Prison]\nand says I should escape\n*into* the prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1766.82,1772.036"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: A friend of mine\nworks in Vacaville -- he says I\nshould escape *into* prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1774.47,1779.555"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think\nthat's saying the same thing.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1785.23,1793.566"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: It seemed before\nthat you said that our\nsearching or seeking, those were\npart of the problem,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1799.37,1804.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then you suggest\nthat we should seek\nto see what \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1804.68,1809.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems like\na contradiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1809.81,1815.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: You said before--\ncould you try that again\nso I could get it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1815.78,1820.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: You said before\nthat seeking\nwas part of the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1820.26,1823.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you suggest that\nseeking was fine, but\n[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1823.76,1828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: You said before\nthat seeking was a problem,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1828.0,1830.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and now you're saying\nthat we should seek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1830.76,1832.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems to be\na contradiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1832.74,1836.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seeking is\na problem obviously, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1838.63,1843.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because by seeking\nyou have discovered,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1843.76,1846.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you pick up \"this.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1846.14,1852.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then we might find out\non the process of our seeking,\nwho \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1852.65,1858.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which might be easier\nfor your journey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1858.43,1863.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If our car doesn't run properly,\nyou might fix and stop\nat some gasoline station,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1863.15,1870.795"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to find out\nwhat's the problem is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1871.84,1883.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: I don't understand it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1883.24,1885.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you talk a little more about\nthe whole process of seeking?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1885.04,1893.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does seeking become blinding?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1893.19,1899.193"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: I don't\nunderstand that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1900.34,1901.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you speak more about\nthe whole process of seeking,\nif seeking becomes blinding?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1901.66,1907.693"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seeking is\na very positive thing,\nto begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1911.43,1916.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time,\nif you seek too much,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1916.82,1922.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then you have no idea\nwhat you are seeking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1922.08,1927.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your subplots\nbegin to haunt you.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1927.62,1936.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: What brand of sake\nare you drinking?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1938.52,1943.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: What brand of sake\nare you drinking?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1943.23,1948.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Chrysanthemum\nof course!\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1948.02,1958.492"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Could you tell us what\nyou've decided about \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1958.96,1961.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Would you what\nyou've decided about \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1963.05,1966.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why sure!\n[laughter] This!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1967.95,1974.422"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1975.24,1990.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At least we found who \"it\" is.\nInstead of calling \"it,\"\nit becomes \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=1990.34,2007.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Is it possible\nto tell us\nlittle bit about \"that\"?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2007.48,2012.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Could you please\ntell us\na little about \"that\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2012.7,2016.635"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"That\"\nis connected with if we\nunderstand what \"this\"\nis to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2018.18,2024.095"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: To keep from\nseeking too much, is it best to\nrely on intuition?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2027.89,2032.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To keep from seeking too much,\nis it best to rely\non intuition,\nor seek something else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2032.63,2039.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: To keep from\nseeking too much,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2039.87,2041.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is it best to rely\non the intuition,\nor something else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2041.94,2047.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid\nthat is also seeking.\nAn empty search.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2047.66,2053.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the best thing, do not seek,\nbut trying to find out\nwhat \"this\" is.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2053.17,2065.007"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole question is that\nwe don't have any\neducational problems exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2071.81,2077.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have to find out,\nbasically,\nthat what \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2077.19,2083.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But don't try to seek\nor solve problems, particularly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2083.43,2086.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we have to find out\nwhat \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2086.97,2091.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: Is the discovery\nof \"this\" freedom,\nor is it beyond \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2094.57,2098.357"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Is the discovery\nof \"this\" freedom,\nor is it beyond \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2099.26,2101.305"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Unknown gesture or incident]\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2103.04,2103.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or is what?\nOr is what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2103.35,2106.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Is the discovery\nof \"this\" freedom,\nor is it beyond this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2106.68,2111.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think\nit's both.\nIt's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2111.3,2117.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't give up hope.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2117.19,2121.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You are just about\nto get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2121.93,2126.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Get onto the path -- do it.\nYou can do it.\n[Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2126.24,2133.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Is it possible\nto know God?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2134.25,2137.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Is it possible\nto know God?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2137.19,2140.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean\nby knowing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2140.41,2144.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: The experience\nthat there is such a being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2144.2,2147.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: The experience\nthat there is such a being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2147.22,2150.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Experience\nwhat?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2150.74,2153.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such a bean?\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Such a *be*ing.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2153.88,2162.369"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure\nabout a being, or entity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2164.32,2170.673"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But quite possibly\na lot of people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2172.84,2176.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would feel extraordinarily\nfreaked out, and paranoid\nand loss of their ground,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2176.17,2182.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when they begin to realize\nthis \"thing\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2182.9,2188.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"this\" is groundless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2188.47,2192.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just puffed-up showmanship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2193.06,2197.717"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a gigantic balloon --\nballoon, floating in the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2201.14,2209.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is the possibilities\nof that disappointment,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2210.59,2214.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which we couldn't say--\nwe couldn't say\n\"this is the being.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2214.68,2218.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But maybe this is the best\nof the being, is by *not* being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2218.7,2225.515"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not being in a sense;\ngive up ground,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2229.6,2236.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and dissociate with \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2238.62,2242.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Did you come to\nsit here on a red chair\nand talk about \"this,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2251.77,2254.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when every gesture you make\nshows that you know \"this\" is a\nbowl of shit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2254.9,2260.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Did you come to\nsit here on a red chair,\nand to talk about \"this,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2260.12,2265.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but every gesture\nthat you make says\nthat \"this\" is a bowl of shit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2265.87,2271.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess is\nas good as mine.\n[Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2274.59,2291.868"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Should we lose\nour heads and get into \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2309.77,2313.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Should we lose our\nheads to get into this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2313.87,2317.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Excuse me -- I\ndidn't say \"to\", that probably\nimportant","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2317.2,2322.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- should we lose our heads,\n*and* get into \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2322.46,2326.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Should we lose\nour heads,\n*and* get into \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2326.99,2333.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\nDepends on if we have\nany heads left, after this.\n[Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2333.8,2348.237"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Would you call this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2352.56,2354.729"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE],\nso we're aware that you\n[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2354.729,2360.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: I\nmissed the first part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2360.89,2362.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I missed the first part --\ncan you repeat it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2362.76,2364.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Would you call this\nTheater of the Absurd?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2364.46,2367.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: What do you call\nthis Theater of the Absurd--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2367.34,2370.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would you call this\nthe Theater of the Absurd?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2370.46,2373.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: And if so,\nwhere is the audience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2373.18,2375.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: And if so,\nwhere is the audience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2375.02,2379.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't quite\ncall it \"absurd.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2382.13,2387.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think I might call it\nTheater of the *Real*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2387.04,2392.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore the audience\nare here already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2392.45,2395.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can see them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2395.94,2400.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Would you call\nthe question absurd then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2400.79,2403.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Would you call\nthe question absurd then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2403.2,2405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2405.0,2406.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Would you call\nthe question absurd then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2406.21,2409.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything\nthey say.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2409.56,2419.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Are you suggesting\nthat when you're saying\n\"stop seeking\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2424.28,2427.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that meditation or disciplines\nof any kind are not necessary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2427.97,2432.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Are you suggesting\nthat when you say\n\"stop seeking\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2432.22,2436.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that meditation and disciplines\nare unnecessary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2436.84,2442.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think\nthe opposite.\nMeditation and discipline are\nutmost important, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2444.96,2451.466"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to lose\nany further reference point,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2453.51,2459.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and exaggerating \"this\".\nThat you have to sit on \"this\",\nwork with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2459.98,2467.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So finally this doesn't become\nany more important;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2467.45,2471.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you are sitting\non a bubble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2471.28,2476.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"this\" becomes less\n\"this\", some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2476.28,2482.936"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: How does one\ncenter meditation in \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2489.36,2493.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: How to what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2493.69,2495.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Center meditation\nin \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2495.03,2497.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: How does one\ncenter meditation in \"this\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2497.66,2502.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You just do it.\nSit, and do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2506.15,2512.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It doesn't matter whether\n\"this\" is here or there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2512.22,2517.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quite possible this will be here\n*and* there -- *or* there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2517.67,2522.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Doesn't really matter;\njust sit and do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2522.14,2526.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At this point\nprobably we should\nclose our meeting actually,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2528.91,2532.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because we run out of time,\nso to speak.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2532.55,2541.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I hope a lot\nof your people's questions\nthat you're--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2541.64,2548.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dying questions\nthat you want to ask,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2548.83,2551.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably could be solved\nby trying to sit down\nand slow down your speed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2553.45,2559.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and review yourself tomorrow,\nand tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2559.72,2566.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And nothing can be answered\nparticularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2566.8,2572.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would like to thank\neverybody being so patient","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2572.49,2575.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and taking part\nin this particular talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2575.89,2580.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm also extremely\nhappy, grateful,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2580.99,2587.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have a chance\nto discuss what \"this\" is,\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2587.53,2592.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and think about that.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2592.21,2593.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it takes a long time,\nto figure out what \"this\" is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2594.8,2599.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it is worthwhile;\nit's a genuine thing.\nThis is genuine thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2599.24,2605.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"This\" may not be genuine thing.\nBut trying to find out\nwhat \"this\" is, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2605.86,2611.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I will be grateful\nif you could look\ninto it more closely,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2611.58,2618.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and find out what \"this\" is.\nAnd maybe next round\nof my journey here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2618.23,2624.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we could extend the conclusions\nwhat \"this\" might *be*,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2624.69,2632.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or \"this\"\nmay not be anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2632.4,2635.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, take care of yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2635.53,2638.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you very much.\n[Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995#t=2640.32,2646.781"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168774/file/306995/transcript/92465/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/465/original/19740401VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1774976202","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/465/original/19740401VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1774976202"}]}]}]}