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Devotion at heart of the Kagyu tradition, crazy wisdom at that of the Nyingma, and Sadhana joins them together. Trungpa Rinpoche contrasts ordinary devotion and the absolute commitment of genuine devotion to one's teacher, and relating with one's mind. \"Crazy wisdom\" as all-encompassing, vast vision of reality without bias. Trungpa Rinpoche describes approaches of mahamudra and ati schools, how their joining creates \"a magnificent display of total sanity.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, summarizes the nine yanas; gradual approach through mahamudra to ati; how the entire world becomes manifestation of the guru, and hence devotion.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Devotion and Crazy Wisdom"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: DEVOTION AND CRAZY WISDOM: Chapter 2: Devotion and Crazy Wisdom\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.nalandatranslation.org/publications/new-publications/devotion-crazy-wisdom/\"\u003eNalanda Translation Committee\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eAUDIOCD: DEVOTION AND CRAZY WISDOM (out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSRCBOOK: 1999 LINEAGE AND DEVOTION SOURCEBOOK (out-of-print): Chapter 7: Devotion and Crazy Wisdom\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 25 2023 to Jul 22 2023 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA powerful talk that conveys two major themes of the Sadhana of Mahamudra: devotion and crazy wisdom. Devotion at heart of the Kagyu tradition, crazy wisdom at that of the Nyingma, and Sadhana joins them together. Trungpa Rinpoche contrasts ordinary devotion and the absolute commitment of genuine devotion to one's teacher, and relating with one's mind. \"Crazy wisdom\" as all-encompassing, vast vision of reality without bias. Trungpa Rinpoche describes approaches of mahamudra and ati schools, how their joining creates \"a magnificent display of total sanity.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, summarizes the nine yanas; gradual approach through mahamudra to ati; how the entire world becomes manifestation of the guru, and hence devotion.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Embodiment of all the Siddhas held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number two, September 13th, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE:  [David Nudell] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Intensive Training Session on Embodiment of All the Siddhas. September 13th, 1975. Talk Two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should discuss the relationship between crazy wisdom and devotion. And that seem to be one of the basis of the tradition that we're discussing in this particular seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=34.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of devotion, which ordinarily based on some kind of a parental relationship, and a father and a mother and a child relationship of some kind. And have some kind of security, admiration, heroism, and a kind of individual hero worship. That's why a lot of people usually think about devotion, that you have your own particular football player or rock star, put on your wall along with your admired gurus put together. And idea of jumbling them together is the idea of heroism, ultimate achievement of superman -- spiritually and physically, whatever. So that particular kind of devotion seem to be very questionable, basically. That there is no real substance as such per se, of idea, intelligence, in relating with the reality of personal growth; it's purely heroism, a dream world, fundamentally speaking alone, which makes the notion of heroism very weak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=58.0,178.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of the Kagyu tradition of the notion of devotion is concerned, it's absolutely fundamental, and at the same time fully committed. That devotees would not regard the object of devotion as purely object of admiration alone, as a superstructure of somebody has great talent, therefore they should be good person to be put on your list. There's a sense of enormous simplicity in that, and that seem to become from the perception in which that we have problems with appreciation of art, and craftsmanship and appreciation of sanity. Which usually put together in one big garbage pan, garbage pail; that somebody who is not quite in keeping with \"me and my clumsiness\" got to be good. And let us worship all these great football players or great presidents or great that and this, along with our spiritual teachers at the same time. To begin with that seem to be some kind of wrong footing, and we could quite safely say that we got into the wrong end of the stick so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=178.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sense of devotion, real dedication, comes from not comparing, but a personal experience that you have actually committed yourself in and with. Which is-- the closest example that we could ever bring into reality is maybe of one's own personal lover, that who probably may not be a great musician, a great football player [laughs], and a great singer. And our lover may not be all that great person to keep our domestic life together either. It's just somebody who has something little, something in that particular person, who is neither of those heroism categories anymore; just a good person, that lovable person, who has some kind of qualities in themselves, very powerful ones in themselves. That seem to be the closest that we could come up with analogies. But at the same time there had to be something more than that, which is the lover has maybe some kind of physical beauty, maybe lover has some kind of security approach, that he or she can actually create accommodating nest for you, personally, and would be fantastic idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=308.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow we are even transcending that situation: that we are talking about in terms of real devotion is concerned, it's devotion that's connected with some sense of ground in which that we relate with our own mind. Often lovers may not be able to do so. If they did so, that object of too much admiration. The object of devotion, teacher, guru, at that point, is not so much object of admiration as superman, and that you are not expecting everything would be absolutely right. At that point, that you have taken another level of step, that one's guru or personal friend, teacher, who is not a football player, not a great musician or a great singer, not a great lover, so we have taken another level, up, further. And we begin to realize some kind of love affair is taking place between oneself and one's teacher. However, some kind of admiration is taking place, not necessarily a football level or wife or husband level particularly, but somehow, there's something else taking place. That something else is difficult to explain. And that something else is very hard to describe, but that something else also has a lot of clarity, and immense power. Which we do-- we usually don't like our lovers to have too much power over us. Or we don't particularly like our heroes have too much power over you either. That you simply would like to idolize them; it's your choice, rather than something else coming from that angle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=421.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in a sense of devotion, that the sense of *complete* devotion, that the teacher and student relationship becomes very unique situation, all along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=573.0,588.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And idea of devotion, the term devotion is comprised of two types of situations. First one is longing-ness, longing-ness in the sense of that you would like to actually get into the mind of the teacher. You would like to feel and experience fully and completely with the mind of the teacher, and you would like to see-- you *wish* you could see, you wish you could get inside of teacher's brain, and look at from outside, from inside to outside. And then you see, you begin to see, \"Wow, this is how he sees it, how she sees it, and it's fantastic.\" You would like to do that, look-- get inside first and then look outside at you, yourself. You're sitting there, little disciple [laughter], looking from teacher's point of view and climb over his brain and poke little hole in his skull, look outside. But somehow since in any situations you are unable to do that, that there is still that kind of *fascination* and *fantastic* longing-ness, of would like to mix your mind with his or her's or teacher's may be, at the same time. Which is the first one of the portions of devotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=588.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another portion is a sense of humbleness. Humbleness in this case is absence of ego, absence of arrogance. That in order to worship a football player, or great parents, or whatever is may be, great daddy, great mother, whatever, that there is a sense of arrogance that you inherit that great geniusness. Or you would like to associate with great poet, great geniusness, great artist and so on; that there is sense of arrogance takes place. But this case in relating with the teacher and spirituality in terms of devotion, that there is very little room for that. There is a sense of humbleness, and absence of uptightness, basically, which is arrogance at the same time. That you know what you're going to do and you are in your own male or female chauvinistic trip altogether. That, \"we are the female, we are the men should have right to understand, and completely-- complete description of what the spiritual discipline might be.\" So that kind of chauvinism is what's known as arrogance. And usually people who are actually making mockery of a chauvinistic trip of their own, would not criticize *themselves* but they begin to say \"you are bitch, you are pig\". The others are in the wrong, obviously. And that is always the problem, that still there's arrogance so therefore there's no communication. So the problem comes from too much chauvinism, second part of the devotion, and not paying enough attention to who we are, what we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=685.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the requirement is a sense of humbleness, a sense of humbleness in the sense that one doesn't have to observe, purely observe the Oriental trip of bowing every minute, every other second, and kneeling down and licking teacher's feet, as expression of devotion. And sometimes people do that because when they can't do it properly. They just trying to do it physically, trying to please, at least trying to keep in some kind of format situation, which is also questionable, highly questionable. And often such people extraordinarily arrogant, at that particular stage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=824.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So sense of *real* humbleness is not allowing any kind of backbone in oneself. So the description that we could use is the real idea of humbleness is a person that's completely flexible from head to toe, and without backbones -- without any bones in the body, flexible. And would like to kneel down, and like to-- would be flexible, like a good fish, that's been cooked maybe. And completely flexible like a worm actually, without any backbones. That there's no arrogance of sticking little corners out, \"No, no! You can't touch my ribs. No, no! You can't touch my neck. You can't touch my back, shoulders, my leg. It hurts! Don't touch me.\" But this case it's *completely* reduce into a piece of raw meat, that's completely *flexible*. And willing to do-- willing to get into, willing to actually open oneself up, and be at the mercies of the teacher's situation. So those two situations of the-- at the first one is being the idea of sense of longing-ness, and the second one the sense of humbleness, absence of pride, arrogance. Which provides the basis of the foundation work, in this particular sadhana, predominantly. Which is also description of how we actually could follow our path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=870.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as we go on from there, that another aspect of another tradition, which is a sense of crazy wisdom, which is very interestingly unusual topic, and unusual subject. That how we could say that craziness and wisdom could be together? At this point we could say quite safely, the word \"crazy wisdom\" is maybe structured wrongly; it's purely convenience of linguistic translation. We could say that wisdom comes first, craziness comes afterwards. So \"wisdom crazy\", more likely. As far as the term of the idea of journey is concerned, that wisdom is a sense of all-pervasive, all-encompassing vision and perspective, which is highly powerful and clear and precise and able to see the whole things as they are, in their own rights. No bias-ness at all, and a sense of being perceived as things as they are and without any question. And out of that then you begin to develop a craziness, which is a sense of not paying any attention to little wars, little resistance that might be put up by the world of reference point, the world of duality anymore at all. So, that's craziness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=984.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So \"wisdom crazy\" is more likely closest that we can think of, in terms of the better word. And idea is a sense of immense control and immense vision and immense relaxation can take place in one's mind simultaneously, all the time. And you might say that how is it possible? With ordinary cases, that if you exercise-- if you contain too much control, then how can we relaxed, because in order to control you have to be tight. In order to have immense control and relaxation, how can you be at the same time, on the other hand, clearly seeing into the situation? And maybe those things are conceptual approach, basically that we can do them all, all of them, we can do it together. We could be clear, relaxed, and immense control at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1097.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this particular lineage of the two schools put together, of immense crazy wisdom and immense sense of dedication, devotion, put together is the kind of student's role and teacher's role put together, in one particular powerful style. And the Kagyu tradition, which is Karma Pakshi's tradition, is specialized in immense devotion, dedication. And that of the Nyingma tradition, the ati tradition, Padmasambhava tradition, is the lineage of crazy wisdom. That you can put them together and work together. So result of that is that this particular sadhana as a kind of prototype of how emotion and wisdom can work together. Together. It's possible; it's been done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1179.0,1261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in this particular tradition or lineage had developed from recently about a hundred years ago -- at this point maybe 160 years ago -- by particularly Tibetan master called Jamgon Kongtrul the Great. That he had actually developed understanding of the two situations, two principles, and he had become the holder of lineage of contemplative traditions of Tibetan Buddhism. And often his particular system is called \"rime\" school, which literally means \"unbiased\" school. That is to say that there's no favoritism paid on a particular school of thought, but combining the contemplative traditions together, meditative traditions brought together, that point. That particular rime school is inspired early on at the time of Karma Pakshi, which is the second Karmapa, which is around about thirteenth century. That teacher of the Kagyu lineage begin to receive instructions, teachings, from the Nyingma tradition, and they are brought together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1261.0,1378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And further brought more by Rangjung Dorje who is the third Karmapa, of reincarnation of Karma Pakshi, who actually had very clear precision, precise understanding of the mahamudra teaching of devotion and the maha ati teaching of crazy wisdom could be brought together. And tradition brought-- become very eminent, very important revelation, so to speak, through the two contemplative traditions of Tibetan Buddhism at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1378.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a sense of openness and a sense of craziness become one approach that point. Like Milarepa, who was a hard worker, extraordinarily diligent and devoted to his own particular discipline. And at the same time you have on the other hand all the Nyingma traditions, like Padmasambhava, who was a wild and crazy and fantastically expansive person, visionary and a larger-scale person, who had his own particular style of relating with the world, in his own way. And bringing those two together is a very interesting point. It just makes like a good cup of tea: if you brought nice and boiled water, over boiling water and put a pinch of tea in it, then it makes good tea. And then after that you put dash of milk, and you drink it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1419.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's very beautiful blend of the two situations put together; it's ideal situation. That I could say quite possibly that that's actually best thing happened for Tibetan Buddhism. Those two schools begin to work together and situations developed together that way. It's a fantastic, magnificent display of total sanity, display of enlightenment, in the basic sense. And both school also develop sense of ruggedness, traditions develop sense of ruggedness. And at the same time also both traditions develop sense of openness and expansiveness together, and craziness together. That my personal teacher Jamgon Kongtrul, who was embodiment of those-- both of the two schools, and be handed down that particular traditions to myself, and I feel extremely worthy and very personal about discussing this particular subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1496.0,1580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I feel it's a unusual occasion, that we have a chance to discuss these particular points. That the crazy wisdom tradition make a lot of emphasis on a sense of sudden intoxication, that ordinary mind can be suddenly transformed into a no-mind. And the mahamudra, or the devotional school, emphasis on the gradual intoxication; that you have to take your time, take the thing by sip by sip, so to speak, take your level. So both of them has some kind of truth in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1580.0,1644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That start with the gradual process; quite possible otherwise might give you a stomach upset, and sudden... death possibly, quite possibly, and sudden chaos, at the same time. So the person who are involved with the either of those teachings does not make any differences really at this point. And the abruptness is unable to handle by the younger students, earlier students; they can't handle that abruptness at all. So they should be trained in hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana, slowly, gently. And when they are ready enough to actually take the leap, then you push then over a cliff, and then make them fly. It's how precisely eagle trains its young: the first few weeks fed with all kinds of meat and worms and whatever you have, and feed the young. And when the young is still playing games with the mother or parents, and still want more food but still getting fat rather than not getting any exercise, and can still handle with its own wings and everything, so the mother pushes out of the cliff. And so young eagle begin to fly and begin to take pride in his abilities, and begin to do that way [laughs], and that makes sense. And that particular lineage tradition is actually quite fittingly referred to as \"children of Garuda\", which is a mythical bird in Indian mythology, that whose eggs that hatches and when the eggs open that the young are ready to fly out. So that kind of idea, of sudden birth but at the same time gradual birth, which works together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1644.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow there's similar problems exist in Zen traditions as well, that people talk about \"satori\", and suddenly that you can do anything you want. And that the same time equally that people are expected to do their own sitting practice immensely, and lots of training need to be involved. So, that seem to be a general pattern, that there's need for two types of approaches put together, which makes completely presentable and completely workable with the students. That if there was no help from the mahamudra, or the devotional school, to the maha ati, the crazy wisdom school, that maha ati people might produce a lot of fanatics, a lot of neurotics, and quite possibly immense lot of suicides. As it been happening in the Zen tradition as well that we have a lot of high suicide rate in Zen practitioners, which is common knowledge. High suicide rate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [Laughs] Hello.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hello. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1779.0,1878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the gradual school quite possibly will end up being just by being running on its own regular nonsense if there was no ati or the crazy wisdom school to save them from their worm-like trip, of eating their own little, little tree, and going around and around and around, finally drop dead by being dried. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1878.0,1914.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it saves both situations, at the same time. And that seem to be one of the best, workable situations that ever developed, and no wonders they come to their particular conclusion. And I would say they're very smart, as they deserve; I think they were, they are, still, still it's working to our level, so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome. You're welcome to ask questions if you wish!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1914.0,1960.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, when you said committing suicide do you mean mental suicide or physical suicide?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one, Zen people?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Physical.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh, not flipping -- killing themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh, okay. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite harakiri unfortunately. It's real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1960.0,1987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, you speak about the-- in the Nyingma tradition the ati, and in the Kagyu the mahamudra. And is the maha ati, is it-- is that a combination, or is it an extension of ati? It must be a combination.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's the same as maha ati.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Maha ati is one of two? Or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, we call it, without its forename, and with its forename.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And that's that tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Its surname is \"ati.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Its surname is ati. And forename is \"maha ati\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Forename is \"maha.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Maha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And family name is ati. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1987.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is that to do with the rime tradition? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, altogether. Not exclusively. Maha ati is one of the traditions that rime tradition's including, altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2036.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: May I ask another question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: They say in the Gelugpa tradition that none of the old tantras are being used in the Gelugpa tradition. And what about that? Are they...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they miss a lot of big chunk.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I would say. [Laughter] It's no crazy wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There is no crazy wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're afraid of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Afraid of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're afraid of crazy wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why they decide to call themselves, in the Western literatures, as the \"reformed tradition\" or whatever, Sir Charles Bell and all the other traditions talks about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, I noticed last night Rinpoche you used the word \"reformed.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I noticed last night you used the word reformed as well when you were speaking about this tradition coming to America.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well this is real reform, we're not threatened by anybody, so we are doing it properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2057.0,2128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You mentioned devotion -- devotion to teacher and devotion to discipline. I wondered if the teacher was embodiment of discipline, or could one be devoted to discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teacher is embodiment of discipline.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can one be devoted to discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, but which is given by a teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't get away with that! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2128.0,2172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems to me, Rinpoche, that in the conception of the crazy wisdom there's still something very heroic: he can do anything he wants, very powerful, things like that. Just like the hero football player.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's heroism by itself rather than being hero-*worshiped* at that point. That's the differences. Otherwise obviously there is power. When there is power you don't have to say, \"I am powerful\", particularly; you are powerful already. So the idea of a difference between hero-worshipped and being heroism on the spot is that you don't have to be qualified being fantastic, powerful person; you are already. And that seem to be the differences.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'll have to think about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You better think about that before you get out of here. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2172.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody over there. Young lady in the purple. Pink?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I would like to ask about the concept of the nine yanas, and if you could shed some light on that. The maha ati being the ninth yana and the mahamudra being the second? I don't understand what that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahamudra is the... What's that? [Unknown incident or gesture; laughter] Sixth yana, of-- let's make it very simple. Tantric yanas have six yanas, basically, after the shravakayana and bodhisattvayana and pratyekayana, altogether, which makes three yanas, which is the hinayana and mahayana put together. The next of them after *that*, there are six yanas of tantra. And the mahayana's being covered-- I mean mahamudra yana is being covered by the first and second and third of the tantric yanas are mahamudra yana. And particularly predominant anuttarayana, which is the sixth one, basically. And then you have the beyond that you're approaching to the area of ati-type approach. And then you have the seventh one, eighth one and the ninth one, is somewhat related with the ati-type mentality, ati-type approach; you begin to approach to crazy wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2245.0,2365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I would like to then ask your opinion of following a path that just starts with the maha ati, for a Western mind. Or do you see the mergence [sic] of the two traditions as being the most conducive for us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's very difficult to get ati experience immediately. It takes a long time. So you find yourself following the mahamudra, basically. And that's how Rangjung Dorje, the third Karmapa, did discovered himself. And a lot of writers, Jigme Lingpa and Longchen Rabjam, and all the others traditions, they have to constantly refer back to the nine yana structure, and that's what they structured, basically. So I think you find yourself, you know, you might be thinking that you are doing the ati-type discipline, you belong to that particular style, but nevertheless you find yourself starting from scratch, which is unavoidably of the mahamudra principle, basically. So, we don't have to give them labels particularly, but basically what actually amounts to you is you're starting from mahamudra experience in any case. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2365.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You spoke of arrogance as the stiffness of format, going through the motions. Is that maybe the impetus, the irritation that gets you kicked out of the nest, to somewhat...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you say, sure. All the rest of it, sure. There a lot of other things, that goes with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2439.0,2478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, could you make a connection between mahamudra as tied in with sense of devotion and humbleness, and mahamudra as connected with the visual aspect of the world, and the mahamudra way of seeing reality as something vivid, colorful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a very good question. Thank you. Well, I wondered if somebody will catch on that. You did. It seem to be basic situation is devotion is not so much of only devotion to one's guru alone, but also devotion to guru's manifestations that exist throughout your life all the time. If you drink your tea, if you slipped your disc on your back. Or if you're crossing a ferry or flying airplane, step on the dog shit, whatever you might do in your life. And all of those are actually manifestation of the guru principle basically. So because of there's such love affair basically taking place, with you and your teacher, vajra master, taking place so powerfully all the time, all along. And because of that then everything becomes very vivid, extraordinarily vivid, and more personal, extraordinarily personal all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat sometimes you might feel like complaining the whole thing, and trying to avoid the whole thing altogether. And somehow trying to do so somehow doesn't work. So there is a constant haunting quality, that when you try to forget guru that guru becomes more prominent. When you try to pursue the guru, guru becomes more faded, in the background. So there is that kind of continual thing happens. And that actually does create the colorful perceptions *of* the mahamudra experience at the same time. So on the whole, the whole thing begins from devotion. That seem to be the one of the basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nActually, if I could also answer the young lady before. Where is she? Who asked a question before that? Yeah. So the idea is that the-- there's need for vajra master in any case, whether you are either ati or mahamudra traditions. And particularly in the ati traditions also you need a lot of guidance and a sense of commitment to the vajra master, and you always need it. So there's more commitment to the vajra master in the mahamudra style, but there's more exposure of ati experience begin take place. So that's saying the same thing in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2478.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That's what I-- the next thing I wanted to ask was it would seem that if one lived in a mahamudra style, that it would automatically carry over into action, without normal reference points.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So they're *very* close together.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well said, son of noble family. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2675.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay well I think-- okay, doctor? This doctor would like to ask a question. I think this should be the last one. Better be good! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [Laughs] Well, I think it's maybe a restatement of a-- of the last question, but.. Is the differences between the two schools a restatement -- not so much of \"form is emptiness\" and \"emptiness is form,\" but \"form is luminous\" and \"luminosity is empty\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How did you know about that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does that make any sense, or is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does make sense, and that's been said many times. But did you read about that, or did you think about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I thought about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh that's very great! That been done already. [Laughs] And that seem to be tantric notion of it. Instead of saying \"empty\" you say \"luminous.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh well I read that from CUTTING THROUGH [SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You did?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's too bad. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2704.0,2793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No, but that all sort of leads to the question is, I mean why the differences? Why do the two schools arise, if this thing has been known for, you know, hundreds of years? It wasn't just the personalities was it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is personalities, sure. It's people have different idea of, you know-- I think basic difference is, you might say, somebody would like to be a pilot. Pilot?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fly airplane. And somebody else would like be a playboy. Playboy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So those are the two differences. The playboy people are mahamudra people; pilot is ati people. [Laughter] But at the same time maybe playboy would have a tendency to fly airplane, and the pilot might would like to be a playboy, at the same time. So those are the two different things. It's one has such expansive vision, one has so intense and colorful vision, and love affair, and the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2793.0,2870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But I mean to see, to experience mahamudra doesn't it-- wouldn't it necessarily have to be very spacious as well?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In some sense, but if you find yourself in the middle of anuttarayoga disciplines, they are very demanding. They will begin to put you into-- reduce you into bolts and nuts. With your mudras and with your mantras with your visualizations, you don't know where you are. It's very demanding experience, practice. \"You can't eat this, you can't eat this, you *can* eat-- you *must* eat this, you must drink this.\" And you are so much bounded in this very little areas, constantly. And that's being very demanding. But at the same time necessary, because each time is un-shedding process.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's getting into tantric world is very full. Basically it's so, so overwhelmingly demanding. And it's not like just drinking ordinary liquor, and have a good time; that must be tantra and having free-style love affair. That's not quite so. And that you are demanded in a certain particular way, certain particular approach. And the process becomes very extraordinarily demanding. And actually the idea of the whole thing is to scrape you out from your basis of your bone, so you don't have any ground to work on. Your emotions, your emotions begin to float on the surface, like fat boiled in water.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But the-- but as you practice the demand would be still greater and greater. I mean, this is why the spaciousness would always be required, otherwise it would be too irritating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. When you become greater and greater, you could discover more and more possibilities of things you could put in that greatness. You know, that possibility. Like when you become millionaire, you buy a lot of properties, you buy lots of furnitures, you buy a big house, and fill your house with pictures, photographs. and your furnitures and everything. So that's how whole thing goes. That when you have a *bigger* style of thinking you would like to decorate that way, because you feel that passion is the way, in some ways. And maybe you should visit some of the homes of rich people, how they handle themselves. Particularly in America, which is notoriously crude, and all kinds of things are going on in their homes. [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut spaciousness somehow doesn't mean to say, when you clear a space, when you open space, there is nothing more occupying them. But that's usually happens with our world: is when you have more space you put more stuff in it, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So the big danger is this intoxication becoming intoxicating?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's right. You got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2870.0,3101.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48797/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. Well, I think you should get up earlier tomorrow, so therefore you should go to sleep [laughs]. I would like to make more emphasis on the sitting practice, throughout this particular ITS. And that if you could make more emphasis on actually disciplining yourself, and sitting-- taking part in the sitting practice. Which will probably will make what we are going to discuss, what we're trying to understand, become much more workable, and immediate, and realistic. Thank you. Goodnight!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=3101.0,3153.05794"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750913VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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mahamudra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1992.07,1994.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And is the maha ati, is it--\nis that a combination,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=1994.26,1999.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or is it an extension of ati?\nIt must be a 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Forename is \"maha.\"\nSPEAKER2: Maha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2026.55,2029.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nAnd family name is ati.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2029.64,2034.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is that\nto do with the rime tradition?\n[INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2034.96,2040.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, altogether.\nNot exclusively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2040.8,2044.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maha ati is\none of the traditions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2044.95,2047.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that rime tradition's\nincluding, altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2047.96,2054.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nMay I ask another question?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. 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And that seem\nto be the differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2231.09,2236.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5:\nI'll have to think about it.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYou better think about that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715#t=2236.43,2239.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/104675/file/204715/transcript/48798/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before you get out of 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