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Includes discussion about the origins of The Tibetan Book of the Dead; its function as a guidebook for death and dying; the presence of death in one's everyday life; and how one handles the actual process of death. Included are comments on the standard W. Y. Evans-Wentz English version of The Tibetan Book of the Dead, which was not actually translated by him but by Lama Kazi Dawa Samdup, and also on its datedness. Fremantle notes the ability of Trungpa Rinpoche to bring his grasp of contemporary language to this translation, while he notes her experience as a translator. Also included are descriptions of their working process together, and how the book came to be. Fremantle observes that the book could be a basis for the entire Buddhist path, and Trungpa Rinpoche frames it as a manual for the entire journey from birth to death, in addition to the dying process itself."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jan 25 2022 to Feb 04 2022 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Lynn Friedman Other Contributors: Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["An interview with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche and Francesca Fremantle, co-translators of and commentators on a new translation of The Tibetan Book of the Dead, conducted by David Rome. Includes discussion about the origins of The Tibetan Book of the Dead; its function as a guidebook for death and dying; the presence of death in one's everyday life; and how one handles the actual process of death. Included are comments on the standard W. Y. Evans-Wentz English version of The Tibetan Book of the Dead, which was not actually translated by him but by Lama Kazi Dawa Samdup, and also on its datedness. Fremantle notes the ability of Trungpa Rinpoche to bring his grasp of contemporary language to this translation, while he notes her experience as a translator. Also included are descriptions of their working process together, and how the book came to be. Fremantle observes that the book could be a basis for the entire Buddhist path, and Trungpa Rinpoche frames it as a manual for the entire journey from birth to death, in addition to the dying process itself."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Francesca Fremantle is a teacher at Naropa Institute, as well as a translator of Buddhist texts from both Sanskrit and Tibetan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=50.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Just to start off here very simply, Rinpoche: what is THE TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Turning to Francesca Fremantle] You want to say anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: Up to you. Well it's a Nyingma text traditionally supposed to have been written by Guru Rinpoche or Padmasambhava and rediscovered many centuries later by an incarnation of one of his chief disciples, Karma Lingpa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=96.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: And what does one do with it? Why do you read it or how do you use it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose the idea is to in some kind of realization in one's life, that, you know, how to view one's attitude to death, as well as not only take attitude alone, but how to handle oneself in the process of death. And also directions how one conduct oneself in terms of -- according to the Buddhist path -- you know, life after death. So it's basically guidebook about death and the dying situation that involves in our life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=132.0,190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Does that mean it would only be useful to a person who is in fact about to die and-- or only relevant to somebody who is actually going to experience physical death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the death from this point of view is general situation, that there is-- if you're-- from infant to old age, that there is constant changes and you are constantly taken by all kinds of surprises. That we feel that ourselves are comfortable and settle down to a certain particular situation, that we try to take a kind of security in it. But the idea is to be aware of the idea of impermanence -- that there is a constant surprise takes place, and also particularly the physical death is very important part of our life. That anyone who are young or old, well or sick, should be ready to work with that particular very important experience of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=190.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. Now, there is a quite famous translation of THE TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD by Evans-Wentz, which has been the standard up to now. What was it that caused you two to feel it was time for a new translation?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: I think first of all we should pay a lot of respect to Evans-Wentz for all that he achieved. I'd really like to say that very strongly. And also, that it wasn't he himself who made the translation, but Kazi Dawa Samdup; and Evans-Wentz himself even says in his introduction that he didn't know any Tibetan. So a lot of the problems with that text are not really to be laid at his door. But he did a tremendous amount in finding out about Buddhism at a time when it was extremely difficult to get any information at all on tantric Buddhism. But the main problem seems to be it's written in such old fashioned language that it just doesn't apply to modern life anymore. There also are some textual problems, and questions of interpretation, and notes that he wrote trying to relate it to Hindu ideas and Theosophical ideas. And they obviously didn't have anyone to really explain the teachings in relation to this life in relation to practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=257.0,350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: So what are the virtues of your translation?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: Well the main virtue is that we have right here someone who was brought up in that tradition, and who is unusually-- [laughs] with an unusual gift of being able to express it in Western terms or in Eastern terms for that matter to anybody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think also the translator -- I must say, beat our own drum so to speak here -- has been very perceptive. And she has been working with the academic world for some time, and she's been translating the Guhyasamaja Tantra and other work of that kind; but nevertheless her attitude is not purely scholastic alone, but her interest extended much greater and much deeper level of experience what she has-- her work is her own experience. So I think the both of us put together somehow made extremely good team, work together. [Laughs; Fremantle laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=350.0,425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Could you say a word more about how you have actually worked together? What's been the division of labor in producing this book?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: That might be rather [laughing] difficult question to answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Well I assume, Francesca, you basically prepared a working translation?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: Yes. And then we went over any parts that seemed difficult or unusual. There seemed to be very many unexpected difficulties to do with colloquial expressions and so on, which it seems the previous translators hadn't realized at all. Kazi Dawa Samdup was not actually Tibetan I think, but Sikkimese wasn't he?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: So he didn't even know some of the colloquial Tibetan expressions in here which didn't come from his region.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we had a seminar conducted at Karme Choling in Vermont first on the subject, [The] Tibetan Book of the Dead, and Francesca was there, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: But it was given by yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, given by myself. And somehow from that time onward, that we worked together; and Francesca worked quite a lot in the actual sort of basic translation, and we gone through it and [UNCLEAR: edited? updated?]. And the seminar that I gave was actually included some of the introduction and commentary so to speak; it is actually seminar that I gave, so...\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: The commentary which is published in the book.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is published in that book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=425.0,523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Yes. One last question: how would you advise somebody, just anybody walking into a bookstore and buying this book, to set about reading it? Should they try to connect some practice to the reading of the book? Should they read it very slowly and carefully, or read it rapidly through and get a general feeling for it? What's the right way for somebody to approach this rather unusual text?\r\n\r\n\r\nFRANCESCA FREMANTLE: Well I think they should just keep it, read it over and over again in their lives, and also practice along with it and keep on reading it. The amazing thing about working on this text is that I found it really contains the whole of Buddhism right up to the tantric level. The reason why it's such a difficult book to read is that it's written from the tantric point of view, of which -- unless one has to some extent gone through previous preparatory practices up to the tantric level -- might be difficult to understand. And so you could use it really as a basic text for the whole of Buddhist practice. And I had the feeling even, if one could really understand this book you wouldn't need any other text at all, because everything is in there. So...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think it does apply to sort of journey, kind of journey that you take, or learning process that person is going through from birth to-- until death. And this book is kind of a manual journey that how the sort of process develops and in one's own state of mind produces different kind of after effect, sort of karmic consequences. That everything is seem to be in the mind. That if there is a very strong aggression or intense passion or intense doubt then those things are going to bounce on you. So that's not only apply to after death experience alone but during lifetime -- that the deities that's been explained in the book could be somewhat basically also a part of one's color in one's life. That situation that one is going through same kind of journey as that this book is primarily written for person who is already dead, but somehow that also apply to daily life situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=523.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. Is there anything further that either of you would like to add about the book?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very good book. [Laughter] I would like-- I would suggest to read it with some kind of sense of delight and sense of humor, rather than sort of talking about death as something very morbid to read. And there are a lot of humors involved about some kind of delightness. In fact the whole book seems to be based on some kind of festivity that involved with the experience of life and death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128#t=691.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76126/file/167128/transcript/40387/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Well, thank you very much. We've been talking with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche and Francesca Fremantle, the co-authors, translators, editors, of the new edition of THE TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD.\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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