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Spiritual search arising from persistent uncertainty about one’s existence. Spiritual materialism as tactic to maintain ego, looking for security and approaching meditation as therapy or route to success. Buddha’s dissatisfaction, renunciation, and middle way mirrored in spiritual journey of many American students. Despite haphazard presentation of spirituality in American culture, tremendous possibilities for growth. Be thankful to the chaos of America for creating neutral ground for spiritual development of all kinds. Some students have already experienced the dissatisfaction of materialistic seduction. Common path in the West is initial abandonment of traditional religious forms for asceticism, then attachment to Eastern forms, but rich resources exist in everyday life situations without the need to improvise anything more. Q\u0026amp;A: discussion of Marxism.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 18 2021 to Jun 29 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eEvolution of spiritual materialism in America. Spiritual search arising from persistent uncertainty about one\u0026rsquo;s existence. Spiritual materialism as tactic to maintain ego, looking for security and approaching meditation as therapy or route to success. Buddha\u0026rsquo;s dissatisfaction, renunciation, and middle way mirrored in spiritual journey of many American students. Despite haphazard presentation of spirituality in American culture, tremendous possibilities for growth. Be thankful to the chaos of America for creating neutral ground for spiritual development of all kinds. Some students have already experienced the dissatisfaction of materialistic seduction. Common path in the West is initial abandonment of traditional religious forms for asceticism, then attachment to Eastern forms, but rich resources exist in everyday life situations without the need to improvise anything more. Q\u0026amp;A: discussion of Marxism.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260630-964398-yfns0p.mpga"]},"duration":4201.19506,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/454/original/open-uri20260630-964398-yfns0p.mpga?1782857183","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4201.19506,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711109VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711109VCTR1 - Public Talk - Boston - Growth of Spiritual Energy in the USA] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public talk entitled Growth of Spiritual Energy in the U.S.A., given in Boston, Massachusetts, on November 9th, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made December 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that the general energy pattern of mankind constantly leads to something that is a process of evolutionary. And what's happening in this country, alone, could be the general world picture that would happen in all over the world. That the basic, simple approach is that seems that there is a general tendency of \"we want to survive.\" We want to have good food, we want to have good shelter, and we want to have friends around. And that basic notion seem to be the one of the guidelines that tend to follow. But that looking for survival process also brings tremendous problem at the same time as well. That there is tendency to misunderstand the original search for survival, and we get carried away -- with the basic survival leads into all sorts of complicated way of surviving. And also it seems that there is a pattern of basically trying to maintain myself and me as individual entity, and trying to prove that existence of me and myself to other people. And if anybody relate to that -- that you do exist, you are such-and-such good person, loveable person, powerful person -- then we make friends with them, those who say them to us. So whole notion of process is that related with this survival process, according we make friends, according we make enemies. And that's one of the very old analogy of Buddha, his analogy of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=28.0,193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And general approach of ego is that ego based on some situation of trying to maintain its existence. But that-- the maintenance in itself is a very weak approach. Because if you feel unless you maintain yourself then if there's danger, then that's very feeble attempt to maintain oneself. And that maintenance oneself also has connection with uncertainty. Uncertainty started with bewilderment of not knowing who we are, what we are, exactly, fundamentally, subconsciously, really, truly. Who we are, we are not quite certain. And people often ask, \"Why I am I am? What is my purpose of being here?\" All these questions comes from uncertainty, bewilderment. And from that bewilderment process of paranoia, one starts a driving force, constant driving force, to maintain that existence by doing all sorts of kind of things. The first thing tend to pick up is speed: \"I'm alone, I'm a lonely person. I am just me and maybe am not me, so have to find some way of existing or maintaining me as I am.\" And that driving force of speed automatically leads into all sorts of tactics. Tactics of trying to gather enough materials to reaffirm oneself, or else tactics that would relate to dispel anything which is anti-approach towards that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=193.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that process of ego it seems that the whole approach of spiritual search begins as well. That fundamentally that one tend to also discover that there is something else also critical to our basic being. Some fundamental intelligence is all the time constantly looking, and surveying, and commentating to that existence, that whole game. And usually that fundamental intelligence has been seen as rather negative one because generally we don't like that voice, critical voice, who says, \"You may not exist, possibility, and you may not able to find all the possible way of maintaining yourself.\" And we generally react against that, we don't like that idea, that very powerful voice comes up in the background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=325.0,394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that background voice also inspires -- this happiness is not alone in terms of physical well-being alone, at all, there's another possibilities, a spiritual well-being as well at the same time. And at that point, it is delighted to hear that beautiful news, good news, as it traditionally known in Christianity, the \"good news.\" That we heard good news, there is something more than purely physical well-being alone, and we are trying to survive more, maintain more, terms of spiritually. But still, the original point has been lost completely. That original point of trying to maintain oneself is not a spiritual approach at all, it's extremely materialistic approach. Trying to maintain oneself either materialistically or spiritually are same thing. But the concept of something beyond the material world, something beyond food and house, friends and companionship and clothes, something more than that -- that mysterious unknown, but at the same time sounds convincing philosophically and spiritually -- is-- seems to be there's last hope that is there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=394.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it seems that situation what happens this country as well is on the following the same pattern that we built up our kingdom, economy, foreign policy, and everything, that we have complete command of the power in all directions. Having achieved power and having build national ego, individuals are uncertain whether that national ego is really true, really applies to individually. So people look for spiritual ways because of their dissatisfaction with the failure of presenting ultimate happiness materialistically. Seems that more physical comfort is developed that there is that much psychological frustration is developed at the same time. Because we realize that fundamentally that we can't really be happy. Something's wrong and that could be only answered by spiritual approach. So it seems that what's happen generally in the world is the spiritual development, the so-called spiritual development, is therefore is materialistic approach of another kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=494.0,594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the development of Buddhism is concerned in this country, that first introduction seem to be was the Zen Buddhism. Again, that unknown area of psychological state of being, the mysteriousness of it, has been touched and surveyed, examined, worked, by all sorts of logical-- traditional Buddhist logical way of looking at problem… which brings a certain amount of comfort and pleasure. This new idea has been also very helpful, very refreshing, in order to maintain that spiritual materialism. But at the same time, nevertheless, that people often start with spiritual materialism as they get into it, but then as they venture more and more, deeper and deeper, using same analogy of trying to maintain my ego: \"Fundamentally I want to be greater person, enlightened person.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=594.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then, certain stage, there is new discovery also comes along is that, after all that you can't become greater person, you can't become enlightened person at all, unless there is another way of looking at the problem. That giving up altogether any kind of search, spiritual search, in terms of ego, but work on the nitty-gritty, basic quality of ego. By interesting coincidence lot of Westerners have achieved or come to conclusion of that basic idea of that you have to give up spiritual materialism as well in order to attain enlightenment. But largely the popular idea of spiritual development that had developed in the West, altogether, has the tendency of security, tendency of somebody has the final answer or final solution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=689.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's another problem comes along with that as well is that the spiritual development is not only just purely searching for happiness alone, but it is trying to understand something, the basic being of ourselves. In order to understand the basic being, the basic... psychological state, which also brings the other alternative of development of psychological studies that developed, and particularly that since Buddhism has developed in this country, it does not talk about revelation of God, or does not talk about union with God or salvation with the highest divine being, which seems to attract a lot of people at the same time, sort of humanistic way of looking at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=776.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point practice of meditation is been regarded as therapy, another way of becoming sane, by practicing meditation. And through the concept of basic Buddhist idea of awareness and mindfulness approach, a lot of development has also been taking place, like sensory awareness that Charlotte Selver teaches and get into that details, is based on that principle of becoming accurate to the present situation of living moment. But there again, one wonders that all these methods are beautiful and true, somehow, but who's practicing them, how they practicing it, in terms of attitude, in terms of panoramic point of view. Are these practices being laid up on trying to develop our ego? The concept of sanity is that becoming sane and successful businessman, successful general, successful statesman, or the idea is largely based on absence of all those ego personalities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=857.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seems that there's another situation that arise along with that as well, is that if anything to do with the world, anything to do with the physical and materialistic pleasure that happens in the life situation, is been regarded as a worldly thing. There's another tendency is that give up everything, which seem to be the one of the latest movement that had developed. It seems that from that point of view the Buddhist approach or Zen approach to developing enlightened state of mind is at this moment seem to be \"old hat.\" And there is also another tendency is there's, again, revival of looking for a savior or looking for purifier. That since Western world has rejected so much of Christian ceremonies and symbolism, and any Western traditions -- whether you are practicing Christianity, whether you are practicing Judaism -- there is a tendency to react against any of the forms, formal patterns of any kind, and swings towards the formless ones. But then formless ones somehow too plain, too ordinary, and one swings back to the form again. But this time the form is taking place in quite a different style, that of the basic Hindu approach of purifying, the \"kriyayoga\" principle of purifying, but in the sense of slightly misunderstood form, rather than the basic teaching of Hinduism presents itself in the one of the most accurate and ultimate sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=976.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one again tend to look for forms and images again. Same thing happened to also the Zen students as well at the same time. That at this period that places like San Francisco Zen Center, Rochester Zen Center, and New York Zen Center had developed. And these Zen centers have taken up the hundred percent, or if not two hundred percent, Japanese approach of fixed robes, fixed schedules, and degrees of training period of several years, three or four years, and after that you... your commitment and your so-called spiritual experience being supposedly heightened and you get another credential. And same thing with that of approach of Hinduism as well, the same thing happened. That there is the tendency of need to be-- need to relate with the form and fixed pattern, fixed format of some kind. But there again this development happens in this country cannot be condemned as being entirely bad job, or cannot be praised as entirely perfect work. It takes so much of individual approach, individual way of looking at the whole situation. And some people gain tremendous help from involving into those patterns of images and forms and concepts and people transcend through that by involving into it. But it seems the majority of people, most of people, don't get enough benefit from purely form and purely concept of external situations alone at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1145.0,1287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the latest that things happened is also Tibetan Buddhism just happens to come in the picture, just matter of few years ago, which is the latest phase that we go through in this country in spiritual geography so to speak. [Laughs] That we have Tibetan teachers coming to this country and begin to present their share of form and exotic qualities of Tibetans, which is largely inspired by the audience. [Laughter] And teachers been led into it because of that, and complicated visualizations, complicated chantings, mantras. People start-- people must begin to learn the language before meditate even. So that another kind of phase of that Americans trying to become Japanese, and Americans trying to become Indians, and now Americans trying to become Tibetans. [Laughter] It seems there doesn't seem to be any more sources of that kind. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1287.0,1389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it seems that what I'm speaking all this spiritual development in this country is largely I'm talking in terms of purely from Buddhist point of view, because that particular area I feel most confident and familiar, so that I won't mislead these-- the audience, giving wrong ideas. But it seems that what happens as far as Buddhism is concerned, development of Buddhism in this country is concerned, is that the spiritual movement towards interest in the Buddha's teaching has become remarkably miracle. That in fact lot of students of Buddhism are going through the same journey as Buddha himself did: dissatisfaction with the life situation, and then renouncing the world, going through ascetic approach of practices, long-term process, and then finding even that is not the ultimate answer, and then finally finds a middle way and working on themselves. But as a technical way of presenting Buddhism or completely establishing Buddhism in a safe and absolute understanding, seem to become very haphazard. That there was a flash of Zen, of course the time is [INAUDIBLE] right and appropriate that time, helped a lot of people, but there was no other perspective way of Buddha's way of teaching of any kind at all. And some people are learn a great deal from it, and some people got confused by it, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1389.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is basic Buddhist philosophy presented in the different departments of universities, but there again, the more emphasis on the exotic quality of cultural approach rather than purely spiritual point of view at all. And the Buddhist teachings been presented from in terms of philology, in terms of philosophy, in terms of... purely cultural, archeological point of view. And you got a great deal of treasures of art of Buddhism in this country, enormously rich, extremely rich. Lot of beautiful Tibetan art objects, Japanese, Chinese art objects, and all the rest of Buddhist civilizations and their art objects have managed to arrive in this country very beautifully, and very safely, and stored in the museums. And they inspire something as well at the same time. Maybe only to the few who could read through and see through it, but in order to be such intuitive person to gain enlightenment by purely gazing at the Buddha image, or work-- or looking at a Japanese scroll, is very rare. But nevertheless that provides-- that plays the music when the students begin to dance, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1499.0,1610.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that at this problem-- at this moment of development of all kinds of spiritual search in this country has been generally... from technical point of view, generally it has been very haphazard. But except, lot of young people and students have found tremendous pain and tremendous dissatisfaction in their life situation and begin to look into something from that, not-- rather than solution. That pain and dissatisfaction and social disorder is being the driving force towards something to understand the meaning behind that. People might approach from point of ecology, or whatever it may be, but they come to same conclusion, and they begin to work on themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1610.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that there are very beautiful, millions of young Americans who made the journey already before they commit themselves into any kind of teachings, which is one of the very remarkable thing. And they really involve themselves into learning process, spontaneously, strange enough. They may have read one or two books, they may have attend one or two talks or met some holy man around, but at the same time, whole approach and whole search of American youth has been individual and personal. And I myself come across with a lot of those people, and often wonders, I often have to ask them whether they have studied any spiritual philosophy of any kind when they present their problems to me. And they often says they haven't studied anything at all but it's their personal conviction, personal conclusions, they come to realize that situation, which is a very beautiful thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1686.0,1756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that's the one of the basic point that we have tremendous hope, which should be thankful to the chaos of America, as happened. [Laughter] Otherwise without that we cannot have a driving force towards the spiritual search or understanding of any kind. It seems that energy of this country is at this point we might say negative. A lot of people would say it's negative. But as we view it, generally from Buddhist point of view, it's... the energy is been very neutral, I would say. That it would have a tone of destructive, a tone of creative, but fundamentally it's energy which waits to be wakened. At this point that political, economic, and spiritual problems of mankind becomes one somehow. Everything's into one human situation, and human way of looking at practices of meditation and human way of looking at dealing with the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1756.0,1825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems that there is tremendous chance for the American future to really get into the-- take advantage of the neutral energy as it is. And whether we are studying Buddhism or whether we are studying Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, whatever it may be, but basic meditation or basic psychological preparation will be tremendous contribution, it will be. It seems therefore that it's not question of certain people converting them into their particular scene or their particular trips, but it's-- if there are such teachers -- I'm sure there great lot of teachers also -- are willing to work with those open-minded people as person, rather than as a meal. [Laughs] And also if the teachers would have generosity to let them develop themselves as they are, rather than that students become replica of the teachers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1825.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is tremendous possibilities of spiritual growth in this country. So much so that it is highly possible that in the few, shall we say about fifty years' time, that Americans going back to Tibet to teach the Tibetans. And they will go back to Japan teach the Japanese, and to go back to India and teach the Indians their cultural heritage, and become great gurus of the lineage. There's tremendous possibilities as far as that, because that Americans have gone through dissatisfaction of materialistic seduction. As far as Americans concerned, the materialistic seduction is not anymore seduction at all. As far as the other countries concerned, particularly in the East, that materialistic seduction still play important part in terms of seduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1909.0,1963.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seems that all world have to go through that pattern of chaos and then materialistic seduction, and seduced by it, and begin to react back to your own basic culture. And then go a long way from it, then begin to look back, sort of double take. And then begin to see that your basic culture and your basic philosophy has some value in it. Which is the same thing happens with this country as well with the recent Christians and the recent Jewish people as well at the same time -- they begin to realize the richness of their basic cultural heritage as well. So, the spiritual moment that had developed, on the whole, seems to be fundamentally healthy, but those sideways, sidetracks, certain temptations that comes along seems to provide a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=1963.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And practice of meditation is if it is could be related with purely daily living situation, then you could have a meditating president. [Laughter] And I'm sure he will be good one at the same time because he is not trying to fight on his own ego, and he's just ordinary person who is meditating and also at the same time happens to be president. [Laughter] And it seems that's highly possible, if the spirituality hasn't been divided, segregated from practical life of world to-- from the spiritual remote approach, isolation approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2023.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that also this present another possibility, that sort of reviving all the teachings that be exist in the past and the great traditions of religion in the world. Would have to tune themselves according to the audience, going back, back, back to where it was at the early stage of early Christian traditions, time of Christ, or early Buddhist tradition, time of Buddha. This would present a tremendous chance to go back to its source and start on that, how it was presented, how it was approached, which is very much fitting with actual living situations. And seems that the karma of America is therefore extremely positive and very hopeful, optimistic.\r\n\r\n\r\nCould have discussions. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2082.0,2149.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do you think it is important for people to eventually return to their own traditions, or do you think someone can stay with-- somebody from the West, for example, could stay with an Eastern tradition and follow it, and not return to his own?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there may be some-- also if we could talk in this particular idea of karmic situation of that we as individuals be shuffled around the globe or the all solar system, into last time, last time, constantly being exchanging. And it seems that a lot of people who born in this country had also karmic relationship to Oriental teachings, as well as their own heritage as well. So it seems that, I think it's very much depend on their-- the genuine approach towards it. If they want to become purely Japanese or Indian, it is better to become American and come back to their own cultural heritage, could become good Christian, good Jewish. That seem to be the answer, but if there is no hypocrisy of anythings involved in their practice at all, then they could be anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2149.0,2248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What did-- what is the difference between material seduction and the desire for material and physical comfort?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the same thing isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't think so. I don't think so, because when you're talking about fulfillment in life, whereas, you know, I think that you know like there are some people, I've heard of people you know who are, you know, fulfilled and live in caves in northern India somewhere, you know. But I don't think that fulfillment should rule out a soft bed or fulfillment should rule out an air conditioner either--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. Well you see--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --that you know, that you know that fulfillment in life--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's quite true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You know, and then there's-- it should seem to be a difference between material seduction and material comfort no matter how comfortable you want to be, you know. However comfortable you want to be, that should be, that should be possible, because you certainly have the ability--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --for everybody in the world to be as comfortable as they possibly want to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see at the same time, that they don't want to do that. They rather prefer to camp or live in the cave which is *ultimate*, *ultra* luxury for a lot of people who are used to living in a central heated house, [laughter] a carpeted place. That's the highest thing they could go. Sort of... and there's also sense of artistic taste as well as ultimate comfort, which has the dangers of turning into going to a retreat and becoming like ancient yogis -- might become sort of Pop Art approach. [Laughter] There's tremendous danger of that as well at the same time. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2248.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you have in mind when you speak of meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, just a simple practice of relating with themselves in the very simple technique of meditation, which is in fact as far as that *my* style of working with other people is that same approach as that been happened in 2,500 years ago, in time of Buddha. Just purely relating with a living situation. That the learning process of meditation had to be related with their life situation. I mean that would say of course you have to have some daily disciplines of some kind, not in order to perform ceremony every day, but just to wait and stop speeding, just allow some gap of nonactive. And that nonactive is going to be very powerful and tremendous exposure to the active process of life as well, and that active process of life also becomes spacious then.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's this very simple technique of meditation? Is it based on a mantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, mantra doesn't seem to be simple from that point of view. But it's just like breathing and physical movement -- it's very simple ones. And Buddha instructed a woman in a village who is used to be drawing the water out of the well and that's her job, and she comes-- she came to Buddha and says that \"I have no time to meditate and sit down. What can I do?\" And he says, \"That doesn't matter. Work on your drawing water out of the well, relate with your right arm and your left arm, and your pouring out of the bucket and pouring into somebody else's jar. And relate with that way.\" It seem to be that kind of-- we have tremendous rich resources in everyday life situation without improvising anything more than that. You see this sort of approach of meditation is preparing the foundation. If people wanted to study more involved spiritual practices, like Buddhist tantra, Buddhist yoga, and Hindu yoga, and so on, it is possible for them to do so. But before we get into such fixed form and image, which is like working with the architectural setup of the house -- before we get into that we have to work on the foundation to begin with. So this simple meditation is a way of relating to the basic sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2410.0,2627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said that you felt a hope of America lies in the fact that we've already experienced such material abundance that people reached the point where they can renounce or at least know it isn't the most important thing. Do you think that a majority of Americans -- or at least enough Americans so that it could affect the way America relates to other countries -- feel that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Americans?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Do you think most Americans feel that material possessions aren't really important, or is that just a very small minority?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. I mean, we are here just handful of people here discussing on this subject, whereas the millions of other Americans are still involved with the very basic ideas of comfort. But they may be going through painful process of it as well, but they are not searching for it. Therefore the very handful of people that very few people are working towards that is very special I feel. But it's special in the sense of very powerful new place, dynamite. Very powerful special people who come to this conclusion, but rest of the people haven't, I'm sure, at all. But there's possibilities of gradually turning into that-- towards that directions seem to be very obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2627.0,2736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: To understand that you attribute this feeling in the United States that a person with material abundance [INAUDIBLE] and a need-- the need for a person of spiritual [INAUDIBLE] what extent do you attribute that to one's experience with psychedelic drugs?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Attribute to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] psychedelic drugs [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't follow your question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I said, you've been talking about a feeling in the United States that a person with material objects, material pleasures, as futile and feeling that people have a need to look in the spiritual direction. And I would like to know, to what extent do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --attribute that [INAUDIBLE] of psychedelic [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that seem to be the sort of bridge, intermediary stage. That long time ago, every islands on this globe has been surveyed and mapped, so everybody knows there's no such thing as treasure islands anywhere anymore. And then we trying to look into it, maybe there is inner treasure islands somewhere, before we get to the outer space. And there's tremendous yearning towards mysterious and colorful, mystical experience of something unknown to the ordinary situations. There's always that tendency towards that as well. And it seems that some very strange karmic situation presented psychedelic drugs by accident, as we know. And it's so sort of leading towards it, step stone towards it. It's another expression of searching for the mysterious qualities of it. Which has been tremendous stepping stone to lot of people. But now that lot of young people also come to realization that that wasn't the only ultimate thing. There's something beyond that as well in everyday life situation, or else turning towards the cultural fascination, which is more colorful, more real, than psychedelic hallucinations. It seems that what's happened already, nothing can be regarded as a bad job or condemned at all. That it is step towards the evolution and that's the beautiful thing about it -- that even the mistakes that people made become a very beautiful learning process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2736.0,2946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you say a few words about how you plan to apply the meditative approach to working with so-called mental patients?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that generally the-- there's different types of insanity. What I call is-- one type is sort of egomaniac, madness on the extreme high volume of ego. And this is so loud and so overpowering that you begin to lose perspective view, but still that you apply basic fixed logic of manipulative process is another type of mental sickness. The other type is absolute madness, which is not necessarily based on ego as it present, but it could have a starting point from starting from the ego. But you cease to give up manipulating process at all. You lose complete perspective view of the world altogether. And both cases the madness is-- the basic idea of madness is losing perspective view, the distance from the foreground and the distance, that kind of insanity. That losing the distance of your aggression and losing distance of your passion, and so instead of aggression, passion comes into place. Instead of passion, aggression comes into place. So, whole thing is distorted and confused.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from that situation that it seems... I think from meditative approach that one can only use is life situation, living situation, and trying to point out the distance, point of distance, the right distance, perspect-- right perspective situation towards people. Which means that the people who work with the mental patients had to be very intuitive and not trying to change them into a better person or saner person, but use their material and use their confusion as a way of relating to their distance properly. And which had to be more in terms of everyday life situation, lifestyle. Whereas the some other people possibilities is that who had lost faith in themselves, and they're just feel they're just about to freak out, but not quite so. And those cases that it is possible that instruction on meditation could provide their self-confident and to meet them properly and relate with them, make friends with them completely. Which is kind of could provide intermediate stage, which is quite common in a sense. That people always have their fear of flipping out and fear of their commit suicide and they don't trust themselves. And that kind of uncertainty is intermediate stage where actual sitting practice of meditation could be provided. But those are actually in it already. The only way of relating with them is to begin with, relationship situation of distance, proper distance, proper perspective, panoramic vision.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems that there is no such thing as really isolated schizophrenics or isolated claustrophobics, as one person is dwelling on one particular mental sickness. But schizophrenics have also the quality of claustrophobic and paranoid attitude as well at the same time. So one can't deal person-- one can't put person into pigeonholes that they belong to that bag, but they all have that basic mental situations always. Which is kind of overemphasized form of ego, which tend to happen constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=2946.0,3218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What do you mean by the karma of the United States?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] Well it's a national odyssey, I suppose you could say. That we are journeying towards some-- sailing towards some directions, that energies. Which is based on also individuals as well, that we breathe the same air, and we walk on the same earth. Individual shares their karma and their basic karmic situation of individuality also has nationwide effect as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that direction then determined by the people who live together in this country and their individual karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Their individual karma, definitely, yes. You see karma is like game of chess. That wherever you are, up to this move, is result of the past. And way you going to move next move is up to you. So individuals have tremendous responsibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3218.0,3309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is your feeling on political advocacy [INAUDIBLE]. And what would you say to somebody who came to you for spiritual advice, they wanted to work on meditation with you [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm... [Laughs] You see that-- I think there again, that same question has to be asked about individual karma and national karma. That once person is involved with politics, that they are involved with the games of other people. And they have to have basic understanding of general pattern of the game as it is. So in order to become good politician, they have to also know themselves to begin with, so otherwise their perspective view to politics could be distorted. So I would say that if they want to create a pacifist situation, I would say to begin with pacify yourself. Make sure that you don't become nuisance to begin with. So that's one person that you got it. [Laughter] And then you go along with it, you know. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3309.0,3443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Why is there such a-- there are two very strong currents that move against whatever has been going on in the last few years, and one of them falls into this domain of Buddhism and one into I would say into Marxism, you see, there seems to be a divides the people I would say around here. And where-- is there anything that from your vantage you see in that, in the fact that it breaks those two way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that... in many cases that any kind of Marxism-- Marxist students who dwell in-- who lives in a capitalist country, environment of capitalism, cannot become good Marxism in any case. They would be the first person that put into prison, if the real communism swept in the country, because they be regarded as idealistic people. And somehow there's un--- something is not quite realistic about that kind of Marxism that we study and the philosophy of Marxism that we talk about. Because nobody has really made the Long March properly. So I think it's purely living on idea, and that kind of the wind quality that Marxist philosophy inspires you to flapping the red flag, the wind quality is very impractical. It is too romantic, it's too idealistic. On the other hand Buddhism is in its perfect teaching is very practical, very down to earth and relate with the actual living situations. So, from that point of view Buddhism could be said is the ultimate Marxism from that point of view, because it doesn't dwell on idealistic of romantic approach of any kind. But it seems that Marxism inspires this wind quality of aggression. There is your evangelistic approach to yourself and to your parents, to your heritage, as some valid reason to do it-- do so, because you have philosophy of Marxism to lean back on. It's another way of banging your head on the wall, so afterward you feel better. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3443.0,3629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Obvious followup, what is a proper Long March?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Proper what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Long March.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is actual relating with simple life. I mean like life of Mao Zedong for instance. He lived in it and he did it himself, personally. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3629.0,3651.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: There's a tenet in Marxism that states pretty much that consciousness change or that consciousness is the product of material conditions, just as you yourself have said that, you know we Americans start thinking about consciousness now that material problems are overcome. But the result from that in Marxism is the idea that therefore in order to raise consciousness you have to change material conditions first. Do you think that has any validity to it at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's very, very complicated and it's a question of chicken or the egg first, constantly, you know, where you begin. So therefore Buddhist approach is begin with your mind, begin with yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You don't think there's any validity to then beginning on material condi-- on material pleasures?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they begin with aggression, which is in fact holding the wrong end of the stick to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3651.0,3734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When you say that Mao made this-- the Long March and so on, do you-- are you trying to say in some way that going through an experience like that qualified him in some ways to take over leadership for the Chinese [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he... I mean he sort of lives in his own version of enlightenment of communism, from his way of looking at. And obviously--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: For example, you know some of the-- like to me Mao's version of enlightenment and more of a version of enlightenment than any other individual person who has decided that, you know, what they've done is right and they've accomplished [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know, yes, I mean of course his version of enlightenment is that he had achieved it, and if he want to hold on to that particular situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: For example, Nixon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But would you put Lenin and Trotsky in the original [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would I what? SPEAKER11: Lenin and Trotsky in-- the leaders of the original, successful Marxist movement in Russia, which for quite a few years seemed to bear out their theories and their practical approach, until gradually it was you know swept away by [INAUDIBLE]. Would you put them in quite the same category or would you say that [INAUDIBLE] people's [INAUDIBLE] present-day Marxism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems-- I'm not expert on the Marxism by the way, in any case. [Laughter] But generally seems there's a pattern of... the Lenin's approach was very tricky one. He used the emotions, and he used the philosophy, and he took advantage of the social disorder as well at the same time, which causes lot of people to split from philosophy and practical life of Marxism. I mean that's like any founder of any religion, they would have same problem as well. But their achievement of their version of enlightenment is largely based on fear.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Their own fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fear to lose their situation, fear of losing it. I mean that's why the whole idea of cultural revolution and everything is constantly maintain, again and again *and* again, because general psychological approach of mankind is that when human becomes involved in some situation of intense discipline of simplicity, and from that simplicity mankind becomes more and more sophisticated and intelligent. And from that simplicity they build whole work of philosophy and everything, which could be threatening process to Marx's idea and Mao Zedong's idea anyway. That that kind of sophistication is in itself threatening process to the simplicity of a peasant life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3734.0,3969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: With the scientific progress we've had over the past hundred years or so there's been a consolidation of political power, and in governments and also in like you know big business now, conglomerates, and so forth. And probably in the next few years we'll see this to an even greater extent -- we're going to have genetic breeding and probably population controls and so forth. How do you see this-- isn't it inevitable then that eventually there are going to be just demagogues in power who are going to limit the ability of the individual to come in contact with the guru-type personality, right, to be able to follow up Buddhism or something like this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think that situation will arise like that because each time when there is inhuman expansion-- inhuman expansion-type situation, that much the human-type situation is more regarded as special and important. I mean that's happened already in terms of like goods for instance. People regard antique piece as more worthwhile and valuable, and the prices for antiques becoming more and more greater than the ordinary things like-- I mean the price between manufactured chair and antique chair is enormous. The valuation is different as well as the same time, so there will be that kind of way of balancing the whole thing will be happening automatically. I think that's a natural situation. Somehow the fundamental intelligence of mankind cannot be just subsided just like that, at all, it's impossible. Because that kind of ultimate and primordial intelligence stands above matter, so that intelligence cannot be destroyed by any form of matter at all, so therefore that primordial intelligence is indestructible and constantly going to pop up -- often possibly create chaos, but that chaos is productive chaos rather than destructive one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454#t=3969.0,4131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174031/file/313454/transcript/94991/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: One last question, I think. Go ahead.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I was going to ask you, what do you think looking at nature, for example a tree, tell us about living our lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] What tree tells us about? Well it's quite simple, isn't it? That you have to grow up in order to have branches and blossoms and fruit on a tree, you have to have your root on earth. And more you down to earth, that much you expand yourself up in the air, you venture about. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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