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Begins with a review of the five skandhas (components of ego) from the previous lecture. Meditation is a process of undoing the skandhas, beginning with the fifth skandha of consciousness, our discursive thoughts. Shamatha is translated as \"development of peace\" (peace in the sense of uncomplicated). In meditation, we're not trying to control our thoughts; we're simply being. Our thoughts come and go, but we stay with our breath and body. Neurotic mind adds implications to everything, which leads to a distorted view of reality. Through meditation we are learning how to be simple and relate with things as they are.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 12 2024 to Jun 15 2025 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Blaire Martin\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAn introduction to shamatha, or mindfulness, meditation. Begins with a review of the five skandhas (components of ego) from the previous lecture. Meditation is a process of undoing the skandhas, beginning with the fifth skandha of consciousness, our discursive thoughts. Shamatha is translated as \"development of peace\" (peace in the sense of uncomplicated). In meditation, we're not trying to control our thoughts; we're simply being. Our thoughts come and go, but we stay with our breath and body. Neurotic mind adds implications to everything, which leads to a distorted view of reality. Through meditation we are learning how to be simple and relate with things as they are.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/549/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344809","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-60y8mj.mpga"]},"duration":6421.20856,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/549/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344809","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/549/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-60y8mj.mpga?1759343368","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":6421.20856,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720203VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720203VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1972 - Class 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado Classes, 1972. This will be class number three, held in Boulder, Colorado, February 3rd, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=0.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Last week we discussed the introduction to meditation practice, and I thought we could get into great details of meditation practices and its descriptions of all kinds. But again, I would like to point out that this kind of meditation practice that we are discussing is strictly that which relates to human psychology and deals with human neurosis. So, it is not magical practice or it is not practice which involves with gaining further sight of mystical experience as such, but it is purely and simply dealing with basic human mentality. And that seem to be one of the most important point of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=24.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That whole process of meditation practice is dealing with certain basic psychological unbalanced state, and that seem to be one of the most important point. I thought I might draw a diagram, perhaps you might be able to relate with the whole thing. And last time when I gave a talk, one of the first thing, on the ego and other things like that, and I hope that you have managed to understand something. But nevertheless we might be-- we should relate again quite possibly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=123.0,182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you have the basic confusion, which relate with something, which is uncertain -- \"that and this\" confuses constantly. Whether does this dot depend on the circle, or whether circle depends on the dot, it is uncertain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=182.0,213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that situation that develops feeling, is trying to find its pattern of relationship in order to maintain one's existence of me and myself from the confusion. In other words, trying to maintain the confusion is a confused state of mind. So, in order to maintain confusion as confusion, you have to have some valid, logical, emotional ape instinct to maintain itself, is the feeling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=213.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then feeling goes on constantly with impulse. And way of maintaining feeling is trying to relate with the impulsive situation of psychological process. And from the impulse gradually develops concept, name and form -- that you have a concept rather than just purely impulse. Impulsive situation not enough. In order to have impulsive situation to relate with the things as they are, you have to label things as they are by concepts or conceptualizing, terms of philosophical or name and form, putting things into pigeonhole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=253.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then beyond that there is the consciousness, which is the state of mind which actually relates to, with the-- to the things as they are, either aggression or passion or jealous or envy or pride, what have you. And beyond that limitation, that actual manifestation of solid mind is already established. And then in order to maintain the whole process that we have to have all kind of neurotic patterns of mind, which is relate with the discursive thoughts in order to maintain the flow of the whole thing. That things are not really predictable but visual thoughts and audial thoughts and all kinds of thought gradually develop in the process of trying to develop its own solid, definite thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=306.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the meditation practice that we are going to discuss tonight is trying to deal with these… wavy lines of uncertainty, that which are trying to continue its process. So that practice of meditation is therefore undoing process of the five steps of psychological process that we have gone through. So that the practice that we are talking tonight is relating with these wavy lines and how to relate with basic tendency of mind and its hang-ups, so to speak. So, we have created complicated world and we trying to undo it. That's where we are at. And unfortunately nobody is going to undo it for us. If somebody trying to undo it for us, then we have to form a relationship with that undoer, which makes another doing process, constantly. So we have to relate with our own process as it goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=374.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the first stage of meditation is therefore dealing with beyond the conscious level. Discursive thoughts are not regarded as consciousness-- I mean the emotional thoughts not regarded as conscious thoughts. But discursive thought is regarded as conscious thought. The conscious thought when we talk about is that which trying to maintain the basic characteristics of ability to be aggressive, and ability to be passionate, ability to be proud. And in order to maintain those thought process which are the consciousness, in order to maintain them, that we have to have small minds, small thoughts, which keeps the circulation going on. It's like the limbs on body and circulation blood system goes along with limbs. So what we are trying to do in terms of meditation practice is undoing process, or for that matter you could say it is process of suicidal process of ego. That first attempt to make these limbs nonfunctional is to cut off the blood system, cut them off. But you can't cut them off completely, but use them as part of the process, on the process of going through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=475.0,599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in the Buddhist tradition that there is two types of meditation practices involved. One is called \"shamatha,\" the other one is called \"vipashyana.\" And shamatha is the first step. \"Shamatha\" literally means… \"peace.\" \"Shama\" means \"peace\", synonym to \"shanti.\" \"Shama\" means \"peace\", \"ta\" means \"dwelling.\" So shamatha makes \"dwelling on the peace\", developing peace. So, we are working on shamatha to begin with, this practice of meditation, that shamatha idea of development of peace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=599.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we should be careful about using such word as \"peace\", which is overdone usually. The peace we are talking about in this particular case, at level of shamatha, is nothing to do with tranquility at all, in the popular idea of peacefulness state at all. That we are talking peace from this point is uncomplicated -- actually that's the most peaceful thing of all, is uncomplicated. Our working with uncomplicatedness, being with uncomplicated state of mind, which automatically means, of course, in order to work with uncomplicated mind you have to be complicated to work with the complications. Complications this case has nothing to do with social disorder, political disorder, theological refutations, philosophical thing, anything at all. It's just simply chatter of the mind, which is root of all. Uncomplicating the chatter of the mind, thought process. The chatter of mind consists of, as I mentioned already, visual kinds, audial kinds, momentum temperamental kinds, and all kinds of other things happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=676.0,813.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, now if you're going to try to meditate with all these things going on all the time simultaneously, we might ask, \"Am I trying to stop all these complications, make it into uncomplicated one? Am I trying to control them, or am I trying to-- am I supposed to do-- supposed to ignore them?\" It seems the problem is that when we trying to do that, the doer is also the same-- belong to the same club so to speak. That you can't control it, because controller also belong to the complicated mind as well. We can't simplify, the simplifer also belong to the complications as well. So we have no hope as far as that point is concerned, trying to do something with our mind, absolutely no hope -- let alone the outstanding emotions, aggression and passion or whatever have you. But still, beyond that level, even if you're going to deal with just simple fickleness of mind that we have no hope of working with anything at all, none whatsoever, because the doer is also the process of doing as well at same time. When we're trying to not do it, that is also doing process. So we end up by doing actually-- doing the reverse all the time. It's hopeless situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=813.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level we might not talk about meditation at all -- too complicated talk about it. [Laughter] The doer is extremely active trying to undo, but somebody else is watching the doer doing undoing. [Laughter] Extraordinarily complicated. So shall we give up the whole idea? Let's -- let's give up idea of meditation altogether. But just be. And then question arises, \"What is being?\" Being is having a body, having a mind, surviving, body and mind synchronize each other -- just there, happens, constantly. If we be, we can't be more than that. Have a mind, have a body, maintain your body, maintain your mind as it be-- as we could be as much as we could *be*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=934.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's work with the things are there. Let's not meditate. Body is just body, mind is just mind. Let's simplify everything to that: just be. And nothing to do with meditation at all, none whatsoever, in the popular sense. How does mind and body communicate to each other? Surviving, existing. How does survive? How does exist? Continual process of living, relationship with mind and body seem to be some energy. We have to move our body, we have to breathe air, we have to think. Whole process is extremely simple. So this first principle of meditation that we've been talking about is therefore-- it's not really regarded as meditation at all. Any kind of things we are talking about under the title of \"meditation\" is actually not really meditation. It's process of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1030.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So first state of being is breathe, live, trying to see the breathe-- breath. Less thought pass through, but breathe just happens, breathing just happens. We don't have to actually visualize our breath, or for that matter we don't have to try to breathe especially for meditation purposes in order to be. But just breathing happens, natural existence just happens in the ordinary sense, extremely ordinary sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1148.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The wavy line that we've been talking about early on is inconsistent with relating with actually being, but trying to find something, extraordinary situation, than actually being. In this connection, quite possibly person might set aside irritatingly nonactive space, that you can't rush anymore. Set aside space-time in which we could experience being, be ourselves as what we are. Just sit and breathe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1209.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The natural process of breath does not have to be changed into any particular fashion at all. It's just natural breathing that happens, constantly. Just try to relate with that breath, *as* breath. Thoughts arises, let them come through, doesn't matter. We don't try to suppress them, we don't have to trying to indulge into them particularly, they are just thought process. What we are concerned is, we are not concerned with molding our existence into a divine or higher spiritual goals anymore at all. What we're trying to do is just relate with the simple existence of the body. Body exist, therefore we exist. Relate with the body fullest and complete as much as possible, relate with breath as much as possible, completely as much as you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1290.0,1361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As long as we don't interpret these situations into being process of achievement, to attainment of enlightenment or of anything else, then we are free of the whole problems. Somehow, if you be, problem doesn't exist anymore at all. It's just simply, precisely relating with actual physical things -- the body as it is, and mind as it is, the breath as it is, the room as it is, the table as it is, chair as it is. From that point of view, it is not so much of concentration as such, but it is just purely, completely being with table-ness, chair-ness, breath-ness, body-ness, just actually being right there. Any temptations to move out, elaborate all this by implications of philosophical or theological domestic mind, whatever it may be, there could be-- they could be also regarded as part of the being, but they don't really mean it, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1361.0,1449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we have overwhelming sexual fantasies in that particular practice, it doesn't really mean it, it's just a flow of energy. It's not serious thing at all, we are just kidding ourselves. When you have extreme aggression fantasies, it's just purely fantasy, it couldn't mean it, because it has no profound root in anymore. It has nothing to do with *being* anymore at all, we are just creating extreme chaos, and the chaos doesn't mean chaos. So whole situation becomes extremely simple and solid and obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1449.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the meditation, the shamatha that we've been talking about, of beingness, is therefore extremely relating with things simply as they are, psychologically simply things as they are, and not trying to interpret them into any particular applications, any particular possibilities of discovering mystical experience of anything at all. Just simply that things do happen, and because things do happen, therefore they are so. For that matter, if things don't happen, they don't happen because they are so. You have thought process, aggression or passion or whatever have you, they do happen, because so. But at the same time, there's something to relate with, there is the body, there is the breath constantly taking place all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1500.0,1580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that fundamental problem is that there is tendency of neurotic mind -- when we talk about neurotic mind that the definition of du-- neurotic mind is a sense of too much aware of the implication rather than things as they are, accordance with hope or accordance with fear, accordance with passion, accordance with aggression, pride, what have you. That we see things with the implication more than there is, which confuses us all the time. We end up by not realizing, not able to recognize who is actually enemy, who is actually friend, and we begin to see friendly enemy and enemy-like friends constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1580.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So extremely confused by the whole issue, uncertain of how to relate with friends as friends, enemy as enemy, how to relate with hope as hope, and fear as fear. There's no clear-cut perceptions of anything at all, because whole thing is confused altogether at the beginning. When we begin to hope for something it has implication of fear, of not fulfilling the function of hope. When we have fear, there's possibilities of getting off fear and getting into hope. Whole thing is extremely distorted, extraordinary. One never knows who is actually putting out, who is actually receiving the whole situation, who is actually pulling and who is actually pushing. Whole thing is absolutely, amazingly, ironically confused. One is completely uncertain who is actually coming and who is actually going. By the time you think we are watching on to some situation, but then there is somebody else watching you watching situation at the same time. By time you think you know something and somebody else thinks that you know that you think you know something. There's all the time that overlaying of something happens, then something else happens behind it, therefore something is happening behind it. The whole thing is overlap-- overlapping situation of all the time things happen, so absolutely uncertain, much as we regard ourselves as a sane person -- only kind of judgment that we could make ourselves as a sane person is that we are not end up in institutions. That seem to be the criteria, making the distinction. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1642.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whole thing is extremely confused, overlapping of overlapping of overlapping. It goes on and on and all the time. So therefore, if you're trying to start on the spiritual search, seek for higher consciousness, godliness, whatever have you, that also becomes part of the traffic as well, part of the complications. It seems that we are not up to such sophisticated approach, at this point anyway, let alone whether they do exist or not -- that's another matter altogether. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1779.0,1839.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have to be-- we have to learn how to walk, how to speak, speak properly, walk straight -- metaphorically, of course -- and that seems to be what the shamatha practice is meant, how to be simple and wholesome being, by simply relating with the simple existence of bodily situation like breathing, walking, awareness of bodily sensations, what have you. All the traditional descriptions are given of techniques of all kinds. But these techniques just simply work with that simplicity, not introduce further complications.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1839.0,1904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Historically, Buddha spent seven weeks, he was extremely paranoid, afraid of introducing further complications to the mankind. He thought out, \"Should I do this way, or should I do that way? No.\" And finally he come to conclusion that \"If I could tell them suffering is suffering, we experience pain. Is that so?\" He hoped that everybody would agree simultaneously. And people did suffer, and they do suffer, and everybody had to agree that \"I suffer, he suffer, she suffer, it suffers.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1904.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole process that meditation is related with this is that actually the presence of pain and suffering as it is. It does exist -- discomfort and confusion does exist in the bodily situation. And we are not trying to eliminate suffering, which means that we becoming too cunning, trying to look behind our own shoulders, which doesn't work anymore. So therefore let's work with actual existence of confusion as it is, and work with the actual existent situation. So whole thing could be reduced into a physical situation, living bodily situation, psychological situation of seeing things as simple and direct and precise as much as possible. So the first step of meditation from this point, is not particular trying to gain highest form of concentration or highest form of wisdom at all. Just simply learn to survive to begin with. Work with our mind straightforward as much as possible, so we could think straightforward, we could be straightforward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=1955.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's not so much of eliminating the thought process from this point of shamatha practice is concerned, but it is learn to how to be simple thinking process, how to develop simple thinking process without any complication, none whatsoever at all. So we could-- we-- when we think, we could think properly, when we eat, we eat properly, without any further complications. That seem to be first concern is that how to walk and how to eat, how to breathe properly. That seem to be the first starting point of shamatha practice is simplicity of directness of things as they are and relating with that, without at all any kind of spirituality or development of any further disciplines of any kind at all. It's just simply relate with things naked and simple as much as possible -- which is in itself highest concentration of all. Of course if you could think simply, straightforward, and if we could act simply, straightforward, that is tremendous achievement. But somehow that doesn't seem to be the issue at this point. When we begin to evaluate the whole thing, that the whole thing becomes more complicated.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in fact that if I say too much more, it's going to become more complicated as well. So we could stop, probably. It's time for discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2042.0,2161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mentioned last week that we need to acknowledge the problems and neurosis that we have and sort of come to grips with them. In meditation we recognize the problem. Do we-- you know, should we work on it or should we, you know, think about it and try to come to grips with it, or just let it flow by with the thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, whole thing is that what we discussing tonight is the preliminary of the meditation practice, and accordance with that particular situation that we have to provide bare minimum situation. Extremely simple, extraordinarily simple, absolutely simple, so that problems could come through and we begin to able to see completely the problem is as it is. So then we are in a position to work with it. If you don't create the environment situation as simple enough, that we can't see the problem anymore at all, we are confused with the problem as well as the issue around problem is also seem to be same thing, constantly. So meditation is therefore way of bringing out the problem into clear perception of problem as it is, the simplicity of the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2161.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What part does faith play in Tibetan Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEKER2: What part does faith play in Tibetan Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not question of particular Tibetan Buddhism as such, but it's... Buddhist tradition developed in Tibet, which is a universal thing. And faith seem to be one of the most crucial thing. It's not faith in the sense of worship or belief as such, but faith in the perceiver of the teaching. That perceiver of the teaching is extremely worthy person, that perceiver of the teaching is a ripened one, otherwise you can't come to such situations anymore at all. So you have definite confidence, which is synonym to faith from that point of view. And that plays tremendous important part. If you don't reduce yourself into an insignificant person then you begin to able to bear the-- you begin to make yourself as the right recipient, the right vessel to contain the teaching. So it's faith in yourself plays important part, extraordinary important part. The faith seem to be, from this point of view, is the opposite idea of self-condemnation and the punishment of oneself. That seem to be the idea of faith.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2279.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: When you were speaking of meditation as such, when you were drawing the lines and stuff, speaking about how the doer tries to do something and he confuses the doing in the process of meditation and becomes confused -- how do you be without becoming a doer? In other words, how are you not conscious of being without becoming a doer and confusing being-- *doing* being, rather than just being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the point is that if a person could be one with the action, one with the process, that process realistic enough, real enough that you don't have to question anything about it, whether you're doing it or not. It's exactly the same thing that we don't question whether it is day or whether it is night, it is quite obvious to us. We don't watch ourselves experiencing daylight or the night. It is common knowledge. So the process of action is just part of the process, that you actually-- this do happen, therefore work with it, you know, let's not question about it. And the whole idea of-- whole problem seem to arises from that is if you begin to analyze, \"How do I receive, how do I perceive such thing?\" Then we begin to lose confidence of the doer, and the doer becomes uncertain whether actually doer is really doing or not at all. And then we end up in all kinds of talks, subconscious gossips of all kinds is begin to develop. So it's a question of actually plunging into the action, like in terms of shamatha practice is just plunging into the practice, not watching, not questioning anything at all but just getting into it. It's-- if you don't introduce the complications, complication doesn't exist actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2421.0,2571.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What's the difference between shamatha practice and vipashyana practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We haven't come to the vipashyana practice yet. We just start on the shamatha practice. And probably we should leave it that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2571.0,2592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In the songs of Milarepa, they talk about the path of means and the path of liberation. And is that what-- the path of liberation that you've been talking about right now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The-- what was the other one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The path of means and of liberation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, means is the application, and liberation is the clarity in what you're doing. It's more or less saying the same thing, that if you see things clearly, then you apply accordingly. And those two parts are inseparable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Even in the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always, yeah. The attitude of the person and application of the person is always there. Unless person has the right attitude, can't apply rightly, properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2592.0,2672.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Isn't there in a sense a lot of wisdom in the confusion of seeing the implications of everything? Because it seems like not everything is related to everything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yes, otherwise there wouldn't be either the wisdom or the confusion at all. That they are-- in a sense, wisdom and confusion are complementary to each other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So when you see the-- if they imply everything else that's true, but the problem is you're seeing it in a confused way, and is that the-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then you remove the confused way, then you give birth to wisdom. So wisdom in that sense depends on the confusion. The birth of wisdom is depends on the confusion from that point of view. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2672.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: BREAK FOR DISCUSSION GROUPS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we could break into our discussion groups.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2737.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are we ready to discuss? Anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What's the difference between peace and tranquility? [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seem to be synonyms. That tranquility is more of sensations, and peace is more related with a sense of climate, environment. Apart from that there doesn't seem to be any differences. Tranquility is a description of bodily sensations or psychological sensations. It's a kind of blissful state, which has more... it's gross level connotation than peace. Peace is-- could be intangible one at the same time. It could be experiential.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] It seems in what state-- when you reach it-- when you're reaching for this state of simplicity, uncomplication as you call it, or peace, when you reach that state, isn't the body at that inner space of blissfulness, tranquility of sorts? Maybe in reaching for it, it's not a state of peace or tranquility, but in a-- when you've almost got there, when you've reached everything in simpler terms or when you reach it on your way, aren't you reaching for a state of blissfulness of that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, uncomplicated is quite different from peace, tranquility, from that point of view. Uncomplicated is just a state of clarity which does not require any reinforcement or any sensations. That it is completely clear, without interference. But when we talk about tranquility or peace, in a sense that is also complicated state. Because it has all kinds of conflicting energies coming together for the pretense of maybe tranquility, but still it is receiving something, which is in itself complicated matter. So as far as this meditation of the shamatha practice that we are talking about is concerned, therefore it is not concerned with peace in the ordinary sense, tranquility for that matter. But it is purely concerned with simplicity and uncomplicated, so there would be no further complications brought together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2742.0,2985.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How does shamatha practice deal with dissatisfactoriness? Like something is unsatisfactory, so apparently you want to change it, to have things be groovy. But then you're trying to manipulate things if you do anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [whispering] What do you say, John?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: That in the beginning of shamatha practice, you're working [INAUDIBLE], seeing something without any kind of reaction, any overlay. Just as it is, in a very-- sort of without adding any comment to it. And there will be some kind of ambition involved in that at first, that you want to do it correctly, you want to see it just as it is. But as you get into the process of doing it, then ambition or dissatisfaction, both of them being different sides of the same coin, just become irrelevant, because you're just doing it. You're just there with the object, as it is, very precisely. [INAUDIBLE] the precision of seeing that thing without any additional comment. It's so precise, and that precision just cuts away any element of dissatisfaction or ambition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Usually dissatisfaction is associated with looking for new things, you see. But when you realize that you can do things precisely without looking for a new thing, it's quite simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=2985.0,3126.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are you suggesting that one's [INAUDIBLE] desires [INAUDIBLE] changes, and you just accept everything the way it happens?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, it's not a question of change or not changing. If you decide to not change, that's also equally same thing as changing. Acceptance is equally changing as much as the changing. So it's not what-- question of what one should do, what one shouldn't do, but what *is*. Which is quite different.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But the question of an unsatisfactory situation seem to be resolved by forgetting it and then it will go away. And I wonder if that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Forget go away?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Forget the problem makes it go away. And...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean by not trying to change it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean by not trying to changing it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, that's a [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not question of what should be doing, you see. That's precisely that whole idea is trying to get beyond that idea of should or shouldn't, or-- but what *is*. It's not question that you *ought* to experience something, that you-- or you *will* experience something, but it is *so*, you are experiencing it. So, it seemed quite simple. Your apply depends on your experiences, without any comments beyond it. Things happen just precisely. It's not question of that you should not wear heavy coat in the summer, but heavy coat doesn't apply in the summer anymore, because it's warm already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3126.0,3285.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE] Is that what you mean by the atmosphere of peace?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't call it atmosphere of peace, particularly. Might call it atmosphere of simplicity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But once you begin to relate with things simply, totally, in its most simple level, somehow you're not depend on atmosphere anymore at all, or peace or whatever it may be, that you are completely free from dependency of anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. \"Satya.\" The reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3285.0,3400.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The early Transcendentalists talked about a [INAUDIBLE], talked about being one with nature. I was wondering in Buddhism if nature was thought of being as on very simplistic terms, and instead of-- and we should be like one with nature in reference to Transcendentalist thought, that it happens and it was, and that really simplest terms it's-- it to be-- it's to see it as it is, and remove the frustrations that we've built up and we've developed within ourselves, through like civilization. That if we could see as it is, we could be one with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, somehow there is something quite-- something bit incomplete when we talk about \"one with\" something, \"one with nature.\" We discussed the other day, you remember? \"One with.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One with everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Unity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unity, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well I didn't come to the last lecture. Are you talking about the idea of oneness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, oneness, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How would you say it?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE]. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs] \r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE]. The idea is that if you're going to-- if you want to become one with something, then that in itself is an extreme. And it's kind of like a mental concept that you experience the situation, and you try and experience it. And it's sort of a polar extreme, you know. It's like oneness opposed to diversity. But actually both of them -- in terms of concept, you know, something you get -- are irrelevant. And then you develop the-- you're trying to become one with everything. It could be sort of very stupid, we could go around and be one with everything, [INAUDIBLE], you get dazed, because you've lost the power of discrimination, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In other words, you shouldn't have any presupposed thoughts before you go into a situation, but you should be able to have the ability to see the situation as is. Shamatha process does that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Yes, exactly. You don't need presupposed notion, that they're extra, [INAUDIBLE]. You don't have to think of it as one or as many, just as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite possibly unconditioned one anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite possibly unconditioned. Unconditioned state, rather than oneness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because oneness is also conditioned state as well, because you have polarities. Whereas unconditioned is quite different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3400.0,3645.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- karma derives from the process of action, constant action, busyness, action and reaction, and cause and effect constantly happens. So shamatha practice is trying to bring to about the mental activities into simplicity, so that at least it doesn't produce further seeds anymore, but simply just dealing with the seeds rather than the end product of the seeds. Usually, when we deal with our life, is we don't actually catch the seeds, but we are constantly involved with the products of the seeds. So shamatha is therefore, in a sense, is a way of overcoming further karmic results, further karmic way of sowing seed. The karmic creation is completely dependent on the mental creation, volitional actions of mind, constantly, that deals with both good karma and bad karma, whatever have you, neutral ones, and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you-- at that moment the karmic situation doesn't exist, which means stop sowing further seeds. It's a short-circuiting process as far as that moment is concerned. Of course then the memory begin to pick up again, but nevertheless, the intensity of memory also is reduced, because you-- there is no such thing as memories as far as that moment is concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3645.0,3822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What would be the distinction that would allow some kind of clarity between what simple thinking is, that you're bringing up, and the right thinking, as with the wavy lines?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not exactly as simple thing, but it's-- the straight line are related with the branches and root, and wavy lines relate with the leaves and fruits or blossoms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So they are not actually simple, but they are fundamentals as well as the other one is the offshoot from the fundamental.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The uneven-- the even lines represented...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tree trunks.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But what does this have to do with the simple thinking that you're speaking of that was not part of [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What about what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You spoke of the fact of simple thinking when [INAUDIBLE]heard you bring that up, thinking. Usually you speak of being, walking, breathing. This time you also said--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --simple thinking, and you included thinking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that-- I mean that's not the straight line, simple thinking are not straight lines, they are the leaves. And the wavy lines are also simple thinking -- irrelevant situations and unlogical minded-- minds of all kinds. Like if you're going to compose letter to somebody, on the process of writing \"Dear so on, so on,\" between those lines you have all the other things that's happening as well, that there is a cat outside and that there is-- it's too hot in the room.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or \"I wonder how-- I wonder who made this paint? Who made this paper and ink? How did this happen?\" You know, the little irrelevant, unassociated or-- but the same time associated things happens, which is a simple sort of childlike thinking. Occasionally distractions of from one point to the basic chain reaction to the other one, constantly happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And so, just for an example, if I understand correctly, the simple thinking would be kind of like a signal, a part of it just morphed in to the future, and the other would be at the end as a noise.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It would be static.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, all kinds of other things, little things happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: All kind of things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3822.0,3997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In the case, for instance, of thinking about these ideas, putting them together, certain ideas on meditation do have labels you've given them, essentially putting them together in your mind. What would be the way of differentiating between that kind of thought which could be useful and the kind of thought which would be neurotic, in the sense of taking it away from being? What kind of thought could you have that would remain in being, and being simple and general?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think any thoughts. It's just unnecessary paddings that come through. There's no basic thing at all. That suddenly unrelated things come up in your mind, like your conversation with somebody yesterday.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How about forced thinking? Kind of forced some ideas together [INAUDIBLE] trying, that kind of thinking which also kind of has a tension. That isn't static but has a tension behind it. That trying to *do* with the thought, trying to force them together?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is-- that's based on a concept, that \"I must be working on this therefore I should push myself into looking into that particular thing\", which is based on obligation or function, something. But they all seem to be same thing. Either it is a memory type of thought, or it's voluntary thoughts, or it's involuntary, based on value judgment, that \"I must concentrate on this, let's see how does it go.\" Like if you're reading book or something, which is based on obligation or concept of some kind. But still it remains as thoughts, but not emotions. Just simple thought process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=3997.0,4152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Can you think without concepts? I remember once [INAUDIBLE] said that the right view is free of concepts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Free of concepts, yeah. You heard once?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [Laughs] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Can you think without concepts? Do you think you can?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think you can think without concepts, but you could-- but you can perceive without concepts, and you can follow that as action, which is different. Generally, thinking means relate with either possibilities of future or the past, and some memories, some experiences that mingle together with the whole thing, mashed together, different concoctions brought together. And you produce your thoughts, visual or audial, whatever it may be. But free from concepts of all those, technically could be said as without thinking because they are not conditioned by anything. In other words, thought is nothing but just a bundle of conditions put together, conditions and energies put together, and you can perceive things, what need to be done, what is right, what is wrong thing to do. They will be just purely-- you can perceive them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can conceive them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --without thinking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Without thinking about, but just sort of functioning in organic chemistry sort of way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does happen, quite a lot of cases.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE] about myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4152.0,4267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So all thought then is related to the past or future?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Can you think any examples which is not belong to past or future?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What about mathematics?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well they are also connected with what you've learned.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Otherwise you can't-- we can't work mathematics at all, unless you have some knowledge how to work out. They're related with-- relate with conclusion that you came in the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4267.0,4313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: By that same token, when you talked about, you know that you don't need thought to act, you know, intelligently. Like if someone says, \"Pass the salt,\" you pass the salt, you don't have to think about it. But nonetheless that's born in-- that reaction is born in past training, just as the whole thing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's what you might say is unconscious impulse is working. But still could be regarded as mental formation, still, mind formation, which is still result of something. It's still the realm of five skandhas, still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4313.0,4357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And are all passions and aggressions due to thought, which is due to past and future?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Passions and aggressions are made possible to function as they are, react to function as they are by past indoctrination of all kinds.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So there's no passion or aggression that occurs because of the present?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. I mean that's exactly what happens to babies. Because they have gone through tremendous change through the body, for the time being they have-- they forgot relate with their previous life. So they have to pick up whole thing. And if you say something terrible, do something terrible to baby, or something pleasant and beautiful, just accept based on physical sensations. It doesn't react to concept, in terms of concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4357.0,4427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: What about the level of impulse? Is that reacting out of past positive lessons?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Level of impulse…\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: When we just [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, that comes from the feeling which comes-- becomes before that. That you have some vague, unconscious feeling of what used to be the textures, which automatically bring the impulse. So, things refers back constantly all the time, otherwise there is no such thing as mental activity at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE] of the origins of feelings [INAUDIBLE]? Is that the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Origin of feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, origin of feeling is ignorance.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is the idea of duality. Idea of basic split, which comes out of nothingness. Because that split is extremely hard to work out. How does split comes from, or why there is me and myself, me and my projections? And that seem to be completely result of some kind of primordial ape instinct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4427.0,4535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dissolves them?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE] discursive thought, dissolves the discursive thought, is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The perception, you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It means?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How [INAUDIBLE] way of dissolving discursive thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In perception?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In other words, [INAUDIBLE] the structure of ego, and [INAUDIBLE], on evaluation of our discursive thoughts. So if you just see them and without setting them aside, just seeing them, kind of dissolve them. But [INAUDIBLE] discursive thoughts [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well if-- when I have discursive thought I'm usually not aware of the thought, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the limit of what perception, it seem to be-- different kind of perceptions, it's either perception in terms of-- in the sense of clear perception, the first flash out of nowhere, but still the sense of energy. Or else the perception is conditioned perception, which is self-conscious perception which watches that perception afterwards. At that level it is become-- perception becomes unconscious mind already. It seem to be several levels-- different types of levels of process goes there. From tantric point of view there-- the first stage of energy is unconditioned one, the clear light principle. And then there's the condition begin to arise which is split, and then split begin to introduce into all kinds of perceptions in the conditioned sense. So you begin to dilute the clear perception into dualistic perception. And at that level that thought process becomes distorted, wavy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, in a sense, yeah it does, that's the whole idea of it, that you don't get constant chatter coming through anymore, that finally one is able to see one's emotions clearly and precisely without any crowds around it. So, the shamatha practice seem to be way of making emotions clear, bring the emotions into naked state without paddings or thoughts around it, discursive thoughts around it, which helps us to relate with the emotions completely properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are those thoughts the– they're still conditioned thoughts, they're still conditioned--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even in a certain stage of vipashyana practice is also conditioned thoughts, terms of-- but at least it's simple one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4535.0,4878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So as this process continues with the type of thought that's necessary for instance in mathematics, become clearer rather than more difficult, whereas the distractive type thought, may fade out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's-- the thoughts act as a kind of oxygen or air, atmosphere where you could function. When you take away the oxygen or the atmosphere away from the actual naked situation, then they become obvious and helpless in some sense, emotions become weakened, because they don't have thought process to support them anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Would the thoughts be more just simply thoughts, without the feeling, \"I am thinking\" or \"I am trying to think--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: –[INAUDIBLE] more than simply just thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --not necessarily. You still would have this discursive things, but they're-- some sense the frivolousness begin to disappear. But you still have relative awareness, obviously, otherwise cease to become thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4878.0,4987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What about the thoughts that seem [INAUDIBLE] sort of in their-- if I could use this analogy, you know what I mean, it's like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --a situation-- [INAUDIBLE] in terms of explaining something [INAUDIBLE] there are many-- it's just-- feels just barely conceptual, it's like, almost the-- almost a mathematical kind of movement that produces a kind of analogy that seems to bear a lot of power. Is that what [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's still the same kind, it's just thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I mean, in MEDITATION IN ACTION you talk at one point about [INAUDIBLE] and you said it's intelligence that arises from [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but at the same time thought process continuously become discursive, as well as the basic intelligence have their root in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So the actual [INAUDIBLE] thought in itself is [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, intelligence-- basic intelligence act as a skeleton, and thoughts sort of creates muscles outside in that skeleton, and that's how it functions, constantly. So idea of working with shamatha practice is trying to get to the skeleton as much as possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: There's a gap in time [UNCLEAR: between them?]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of the two relationships?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, there is a fraction of a second, like in the scriptures it described as like a fraction of second divided into sixty times. Like if you have six petals of flower-- sixty petals of flower and one fraction you-- one moment you just go through with a pin. And you could divide these sixty times of pin is touching the petal, going through it, penetrating completely. You divide sixty of them into three types. And that way one moment of the time is the intelligence that happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4987.0,5154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: If you're acting, like, beyond concepts, what happens when there's a-- when like you perceive a need that-- like communicate with words?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, word doesn't have to be with the concepts particularly at all. I mean the words are just simply expressions of intelligence. So when you're acting beyond a concept that doesn't mean to say you're without intelligence. You have higher intelligence, because your intelligence not interfered by concepts anymore, so you have true intelligence. So you-- in fact you have developed a more skillful way of using words, as well as other things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What's the difference between words and thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, words basically of-- [laughs] are mantras. Is the creation of Manjushri. It's the expressions of intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell word doesn't have to have one meaning necessarily, but it has its root of intelligence in it, which has one meaning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well then is the actual communication is on more of a level of intelligence that kind of thinking [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or else expressions of confusion, which makes word into more than means. I mean words are not all that special at all, it could be any kind of perceptions. Words are just audible expressions of what you see. So it's part of the expressions of everything, the sense object is always there, you know. That's why we talk about the subject and object of ego. Words are part of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Of thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of thoughts as well as the visual perceptions as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But it sounds like everything in the cognitive process is equally a function of ego or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or on the other hand, equally not. They are all orna-- they're all abstract expressions of everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5154.0,5301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: If you get beyond the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: If you get beyond the thoughts and concepts, then you're in the realm of no-thought. Now, is this no-thought, this basic simplicity that you talk about? You just take a table and chairs-- or you see tables and chairs, the table and the chairs. And that's all there is to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] Say that again.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: All right. You were talking about getting into a realm where there was no concepts, no words. And you get into the realm of no concepts and no words, that you're really not exactly thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] that you can't look at the words or concepts and [UNCLEAR: what's seen is?] thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, then you're in this simplicity that you're talking about, and just aware of the things and how [UNCLEAR: different?] the tables and chairs and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: And in a kind of samadhi, really. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Semantic?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well-- [Laughter][Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have chair and table, exactly-- you have chair and a table exactly same as in ordinary case. You don't change the chairs and tables.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah, I understand that, but you're just sort of aware of what's there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're not even aware.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You're not even aware?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you are just being there with the chairs and tables.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] realm of no-thought and then sort of a realm of samadhi at the same time, is that right? And then you're down with this basic simplicity [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] What you say, John? [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: That's what I wanted to know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there's a difficult in opening drawers of the chair-- table.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: There is difficulty [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Will there be, as it is presented?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Do you mean that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or difficulty in choosing what chair to sit on?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: It sounds like, in what you're describing, that you're sort of frozen, that you're not aware of anything really. You're just being there. Is that true? [INAUDIBLE] usually you're sort of paralyzed because you're [UNCLEAR: losing awareness?]. But that isn't the case. The idea is that you can still function without thought, because there's sort of a common sense that operates. I mean, if somebody says, \"Pass the salt\", you don't have to think about it, you just pass the salt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5301.0,5515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You have to be aware of it. You said you wouldn't even-- in that state they wouldn't even be aware of the tables and chairs.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Or you'd be aware of them, you'd know they were there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, even-- no, even not that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, when we talk about aware--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] When we talk about being aware, that also automatically means aware of what? \"That\" and \"this,\" right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aware means \"that\" and \"this.\" Aware -- \"I am aware of you are there.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Otherwise you can't have awareness. So you can't have awareness either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what do you do when somebody asks you to pass the salt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well just happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Without even the awareness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't be aware, but you-- [laughing] whatever you like to call it. [Laughs] What's the word?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Spontaneous action [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] You don't be aware of-- you don't be aware of the salt that you have to pass because somebody says, \"Pass the salt\", but you sort of automatically function that way, with extreme intelligence. You see, intelligence and awareness is quite different. You don't have to be aware and intelligence-- in order to be aware you don't have to be intelligent-- I mean the other way around, in order to be intelligent you don't have to be aware.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5515.0,5620.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Just what do you mean by awareness, again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Awareness is seem to be a split, relationship still, but you could be intelligent without being aware.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] There doesn't seem to be any definition left over for what I would call awareness without consciousness. Do you have any, sort of, concepts for that? I mean, there's a difference between non-awareness, that maybe for some reason you acknowledge, you notice that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's negative thing. Non-awareness is also stupidity, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So only thing-- only word I can think is \"wisdom\" connected with that. It's \"jnana\", \"wisdom.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Can you be aware without being aware that you're aware?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It seems to me that what's distinct between consciousness and awareness, consciousness maintains the separation but awareness-- it doesn't matter the definition. It seems to me that [INAUDIBLE] the definition--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Awareness is usually related with discipline. \"Recollection\" from the Christian theological language is-- recollection is referred as awareness. Recollecting accordance with something happened already in the past, your relationship to the things, is recollection. It's like the result of spontaneous constant prayer. That you develop awareness, you develop recollection. Constant awareness is you are constantly being on the dot, which means you are be simultaneously awareness of you and your relationship to the things. The journey takes place constantly all the time simultaneously. It's sort of automatic efficiency. But in terms of wisdom or the intelligence there's nothing to do with efficiency at all, nothing to do with recollection, but it's just simple process. It's like the analogy has been used like sun shines, it doesn't particularly-- sun is not be aware of its shine, but flowers blossom and crops grow. It wasn't intention of the sun to do that, but it happens that way. It's the act of intelligence rather than act of awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Intelligence rather than awareness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5620.0,5800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is the act of intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the automatic fulfillment. I mean awareness always connected with consciousness somehow, still, it's the split in the fullest sense. Even the mystical language, it is connected with the intelligence of duality, conscious of duality. Like awareness of presence of God, for instance, is you and God are there. You are aware of presence of God. You perceive God, who is being there, constantly. That kind of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is intelligence conditioned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This kind of intelligence we are talking about is not conditioned. [Laughs] No. That's precisely the whole idea, if you have a consciousness, it had to be conditioned one, awareness for that matter is-- had to be conditioned one. But intelligent is unconditioned one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What does conditioned mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Based on subject-and-object relationships.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Does memory have anything to do with this or that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Memory is conditioned itself, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is intuition equal to intelligence in the way you're using it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Intuition in the fullest sense, yeah. But there is also different types of intelli-- intuition of course as well. 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It doesn't-- in other words, there's no action required of you to perceive something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that's why you act accordingly. The skillful action comes from the things.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Comes from the things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Yeah, there's no room for it otherwise.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's right, yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Because there would be no subject-object relation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: You'd be participating fully.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, therefore you participate with the happenings of perceptions, or happenings of world, whatever it may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is that one [INAUDIBLE]-- is that the understanding of \"being\" as being in relationships? The sense of being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so, yeah. Being, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5902.0,6024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, I don't understand why things shouldn't be-- should be thoughtless. Can't your thoughts be like mantras in a way, too, if talking is like mantras or if thoughts also like mantras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say that. But, there again, difference between thoughts and concepts. You could have thoughts without concepts, which is energy. Generally we don't separate those, because when we conceive something, when we have a concept of something. They're regarded as thought process automatically. But you could have a thought without concepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=6024.0,6114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: When Guenther uses \"discriminating awareness wisdom\" to mean, I guess, prajna, is that-- would you say that's not quite the right usage?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think it's prajna, actually. It's jnana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Oh, jnana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, discriminating-awareness wisdom is jnana. Is the intelligence we've been talking about. Being wise rather than being aware of things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then prajna would be awareness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Prajna is-- yeah, prajna could be said awareness, yeah. Or even the prajnaparamita, you know the paramita prajna, the transcendental prajna is also could be said is awareness. In highest form of awareness, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And then jnana--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Jnana\" is \"intelligence\", yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think that's why there is all kind of confusions between the translators. They haven't made their mind up quite completely different between \"prajna\" and \"jnana\", because prajna is connected with awareness, and awareness is somehow been thought as wisdom, but the idea of awareness and intelligence not quite seen properly, so there's lot of scholars seem to-- haven't got through that confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. That's just the sharpness of prajna, itself. Because you still have in some sense subject-object relationship. It's the perception of prajna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=6114.0,6261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Isn't this mantra a communication or is it [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It should be communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is prajna communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Prajna communication? Should be, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then why is it referred to as the supreme mantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you still have to refer to it as supreme, which means that it had to be qualified by something, which is still the-- related with the relationships, awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's why you have to qualify with \"supreme\" and \"utmost.\" Otherwise if it's the level of jnana you don't have to qualify with anything at all. Just use one word. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then you wouldn't be thinking, perceiving, of thinking about [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the sense of the sort of transcendental knowledge, transcendental awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Would it still be the realm of prajna?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, I think so. Still. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid so. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI think we by-- might should stop, the conversations are getting higher and higher. [Laughter; laughs] Getting quite late. Early?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=6261.0,6398.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85004/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I have one more question I wanted to bring. I've got an idea and I wondered how the Buddhist point of view correspond to it. The way I see it is there is a whole continuum that creates pure ecstatic being on one extreme, in stark differentiation on the other extreme. When things [INAUDIBLE] no one place along this continuum is ideal, but rather a person could fluctuate his consciousness from one point to the other along the continuum according to different circumstances in his life. In other words sometimes he can actually differentiate--\r\n\r\n\r\n[AUDIO CUTS OUT]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=6398.0,6421.20856"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720203VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=0.72,4.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Colorado\nClasses, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=4.12,8.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be class number three,\nheld in Boulder, Colorado,\nFebruary 3rd, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=8.06,15.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom\nremaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=15.09,22.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Last week we\ndiscussed the introduction\nto meditation 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kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=46.17,50.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But again, I would like\nto point out","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=50.77,59.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that this kind of\nmeditation practice\nthat we are 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What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5544.53,5545.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aware means\n\"that\" and \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549#t=5545.74,5547.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161700/file/293549/transcript/85005/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Aware -- \"I am aware\nof you are 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