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Its educational approach as not so much about gaining credentials, as students deepening understanding of themselves and their relationship to the world. Students' journey about discovering their own decency, translating that into greater engagement with society.  Trungpa Rinpoche critiques the \"freedom\" some alternative institutions of higher education promoted at the time. Aligns Naropa more with \"traditional medieval system,\" whereby various disciplines, whether \"poetry, dance, philosophy, or Buddhist or Western psychology\" focus on development of genuine insight and human dignity.  Being very strict academically, and having a strong structure.  Discusses why the school was named after the historical Naropa, explaining that he was a scholar who rejected pure intellectual learning for an understanding of the nature of mind, or \"nowness\", and that then he put them together. The ordinary earthy approach at Naropa Institute could become something \"extraordinary. \"Based on people becoming kind to themselves, and to others.\"  In Q\u0026amp;A, describes the intention of Naropa as being that students will educate others, and the larger society, with the ultimate aim of creating enlightened society."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 04 2020 to May 08 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1980"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk that conveys the heart of Trungpa Rinpoche's vision for Naropa Institute. Its educational approach as not so much about gaining credentials, as students deepening understanding of themselves and their relationship to the world. Students' journey about discovering their own decency, translating that into greater engagement with society.  Trungpa Rinpoche critiques the \"freedom\" some alternative institutions of higher education promoted at the time. Aligns Naropa more with \"traditional medieval system,\" whereby various disciplines, whether \"poetry, dance, philosophy, or Buddhist or Western psychology\" focus on development of genuine insight and human dignity.  Being very strict academically, and having a strong structure.  Discusses why the school was named after the historical Naropa, explaining that he was a scholar who rejected pure intellectual learning for an understanding of the nature of mind, or \"nowness\", and that then he put them together. The ordinary earthy approach at Naropa Institute could become something \"extraordinary. \"Based on people becoming kind to themselves, and to others.\"  In Q\u0026amp;A, describes the intention of Naropa as being that students will educate others, and the larger society, with the ultimate aim of creating enlightened society."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/586/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471738","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19800220VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3268.80644,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/586/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471738","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/586/original/19800220VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1659965252","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3268.80644,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19800220VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19800220VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Boulder - Talk to Faculty and Students]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, single talk at Naropa Institute, given on February 20th, 1980. This is an archive original recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=0.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nREGINALD RAY: --the meeting of the year with the president of Naropa Institute, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. For those of you who don't know how we got to where we are, I'd like to say very briefly how that happened. Rinpoche was born in Tibet and [unknown gesture or incident; laughter; laughs] educated-- in what is usually thought of as a religious tradition, but as we who have studied with him have come to learn, it's actually an educational tradition in a way that's much more profound than most of what we have in the West. It's a tradition that teaches one how to *be*, rather than how to amass credentials and information and techniques.\r\n\r\n\r\nHe came to this country in 1970, after a long journey, leaving Tibet in 1959, and going to India and then England, and studying Western culture, and trying to see what, if anything, could be done with us. [Laughter; laughs] In the beginning, he simply taught sitting practice, meditation. And in 1974, he and the students around him decided to begin Naropa Institute. And took on the whole of Western culture by doing that, and stepped completely outside the confines of Buddhist tradition in the conventional sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nHis probably greatest lesson for us is the tremendous care that he's taken with his-- every one of his students. And he is primarily a teacher and has trained teachers, and it's teachers who administrate Naropa Institute and teachers who teach. And that notion of care seems to be what is so different from what most of us have ever experienced. And because of that care, we actually have a school that looks into the most intimate corners and tiniest details of our lives, and our education is based on that, rather than on big ideas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, with that introduction I'd like to ask our president to speak to us, and the students and teachers of Naropa Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=16.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Good evening ladies and gentlemen. It seems that I don't have much to say, that we are doing already here, but on the other hand when we do things already, you might have a lot of things to say. But however, the basic idea of Naropa Institute altogether, is based on some idea in which we can actually discover *ourselves*. And Naropa Institute is institution that will, therapeutically, will relieve people's stumbling blocks of education system altogether. We are quite proudly proclaim that. And therefore, we had a lot of students who are also previously teachers, and a lot of students who dropped out the system altogether, joined us again, that realizing that one has to do something about one's education. And education at that point is not only purely credential-oriented situation alone, but education system is rediscovering one's relationship with one's world. And sometimes we find that our parents will say to us, that \"don't you regret that you didn't study in the college?\" And sometimes we find ourselves, that \"I wish I had gone back to my college, and finished my whatever.\" And nonetheless, people didn't want to do that. And some people want to do that, and they have done it, and therefore they found extension of their college experience in the conventional American educational system, in turn they came to Naropa Institute to finish their college degree, finish further. So Naropa Institute, this point, provides a lot of situations for the hopeless and hopeful ones altogether. [Laughter] And we are quite proud of that. And I'm glad you're feel hopeless therefore you came to Naropa Institute; I'm glad you feel hopeful therefore you come to Naropa Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=174.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And our approach is not education *alone*, but our concern is a *human* situation. And on the other hand we could say quite clearly, that this institute is not humanistic or humanism. Which is traditionally known as a certain particular note by saying that \"built man, humanness, and create revolution.\" [Laughs] But just simply being human being. That's what we're trying to encourage in Naropa Institute altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=361.0,405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your particular journey, here, in the educational system, is that you will realize that you are decent, or even pre-decent [laughter], as men and good women. And you care about yourself, and you care about your fellow human beings around you. And on that particular basis, we could begin our educational system of care for existence as a human society altogether. And Naropa Institute has not particularly proclaimed any heavy duties of any kind at all, apart from that you have to be with yourself, you have to be decent human being, all yourself. And we are quite strict, on the other hand, if you have otherwise idea that you don't want to be a decent human being, but you want to lay a heavy trip on the other human being, as become as you are inhuman being. And we would like to ask them to relief from the burden of Naropa administration. And you might walk out, check ourselves out, altogether. We gladly help you out in out the door. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=405.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point we are not ashamed, or shy, in giving you that particular message -- \"Look here, you don't relate with yourself as a human being. And you don't seem to relate with your fellow other people as human beings. And why don't you forget about Naropa Institute?\" That's interesting point. But when that happened, and when you tell person to forget of something, and they have to learn to forget what they've should forget, and consequently, person will go away from Naropa Institute, but they also realize they should forget, they should forget that particular thing, and they can't forget, because they learn to forget what they should forget. [Laughter] So instead, they will come back to Naropa Institute in any case. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=508.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our purpose and goal is to kill potential indecency, in laying very heavy trips on humanity, or human education, and also capitalizing that bad memory of the education in the past. Are even sometimes that some educators would proclaim, by saying, \"That even the medieval tradition of education is very bad. And we have to develop entire new system of educating people freely.\" And we do not believe, we don't agree with that. And our belief-- [coughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[aside] Can I have some lozenges please? [Whispering] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=584.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our belief is that traditional medieval system is the best, and the medieval system is best, because at that level there's no industrial revolution as such is occurred. And people learned how to cultivate soil, how to farm, and how to handle their life situations; how to weave their clothes, how to bathe properly, how to build-- how to make jewelries. And every system that happened in the traditional medieval society has its own complete wisdom that happened. And when the Industrial Revolution took place, and everything became possibly machine-made, and synthetic possibilities, and education system could be also synthetic possibility too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=644.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in turn, we lose integrity and loyalty to our elder, and we lose respect to our teacher. And we begin to become self-made people; that teacher can assassinate-- or student can assassinate teacher. And sometimes in some quarters it is regarded as the greatest educational system, where *great* idea, such \"brave\" student have experience that they can assassinate their teacher, by proclaiming how much they've learned, how much they free from any bondage of society, tradition, culture, altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=715.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's bad idea, as far as I'm concerned. [Laughs] And also very funny one. [Laughter] We could equally say that if I have a headache, I could cut off my head. [Laughter] So that I could be free from headache, forever. But then if you don't have a head you can't function at all. It's as literal as that: if you reject tradition, you have nothing. We wouldn't even be wearing shoes. If you wear shoes, probably way wear shoes on our hand! [Laughter] You probably walk on our hands, if we don't have any traditional culture, at all. We would be completely distorted altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=783.0,859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Education is not particularly dictated by a lineal process alone, but education is based on idea of what you need -- the best. And therefore we imply that, that way. And fundamentally speaking, from the Naropa Institute's philosophy, as far as concerned, is education is to rediscover human dignity. That human beings can speak poetry, and can dance. And human beings can proclaim their head and shoulder, and they can see through scientific possibilities. And they can develop insight in subtleties of philosophy, and the mind's working, and psychology of Buddhism or Western practice, and anything of that nature is built on pure decency level alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=859.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we are not here working on any kind of assumption of any kind at all, but just purely, we find ourselves as decent person, good person. We rediscover, and discover, everything within the help of our faculty members, teachers, and administration who also worked with that, so we find our way that way, and very simple and very quite ordinary. And unfortunately it's not very colorful. We are not in the pursuit of any extraordinary situations like rediscovering of flying saucers, or planet Mars might have living creatures, which we can invite on this Earth. [Laughs] But we are trying to become very decent, ordinary, so that we could discover *this* very Earth as real Earth properly. So that people become kind to each other, understanding to each other, and moreover, understanding to themselves. So that we could develop education, prajna, upaya, that way, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=930.0,1018.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And obviously I have no regret, none whatsoever, that I've created this particular university, and I'm moreover proud of the whole thing utterly, if I might say so. And my arrogant and pride in setting up this particular institute, is your doing, because you are here. And I can see bright and arrogant, in the positive sense, in you already. [Laughter] So, everything seem to be good and powerful *and* wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1018.0,1055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And people tried in many areas, in the East and the West, and the American continent, of educational system of such kind. And sometimes they have become too much leaning-- lean towards natural exploration, such as like we have in the Goddard College of Vermont, and picking apple is part of your degree. And when you pick more apples that you credentials fulfilled, you might get PhD in picking apples. Or else, another area is that University Without a Wall  [sic: University Without Walls], what it's called -- you watch television, and you get your credentials out of that. Or listen to radio. With University Without Wall, is watching television and radio systems. [Laughing] Might be okay. But on the hand, there's no eye-to-eye, person-to-person level situation is developed, yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1055.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what we are doing is quite proud, worthy situation. And then we named our college, our school, our university, after Naropa, who had rejected intellectual possibilities of achieving high degree of understanding. But on the other hand he had to accept and shedding -- he had to shed off the preconceived ideas of things, and his tremendous yearning to achieve something also had to be shed. So between the two, that Naropa had to relax in a natural state of mind, which is known as \"nowness.\" Which is the essence of our educational system, is that we have to connect with \"now\" system. You have our tradition, discipline, here, now. And let's proclaim and proceed along that particular tradition, is very precise and very ordinary maybe. [Laughs; laughter] But also very good, at the same time, that we do not search for anything extraordinary. But on the other hand that not searching for extraordinary *could* become extraordinary situation, as the vajrayana tradition says.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any discussions you're more than welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1126.0,1239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I have a question--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --I wonder why you come so late to most of these gatherings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, thank you very much, for asking that! [Laughter] Mmm. Well it goes like this [laughter] - in order to live longer and not dying fast, that we should extend our lives, by waiting longer. [Laughter; laughs] Would you like to die on the schedule? [Laughter; laughs] Or would you like to take few minutes off before you die? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I would prefer to be on a schedule.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To die?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I would prefer to be on schedule.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To die?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: To a public talk, or to class, or to die.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would you like to die on the schedule, or you would like to wait... [Laughs] Would you-- how about extra day before you die? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That is how I feel. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1239.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Anybody else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Are you being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just a minute, can you use your microphone please? So everybody can hear what you say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But by being constantly late--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: By being constantly late, are you being predictable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But being constantly is predictable? About what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: People know you're going to be late. Do you mind that people are late too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have that problem all the time, that [laughter] the people -- yes. When I'm on time, people always late. [Laughter] And that I think is good, that they going to live longer. [Laughter; laughs] So my students never going to die on time. [Laughter; laughs] They're always going to be late. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1370.0,1471.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Sir, I don't think we should reject the tradit-- the academic tradition of Naropa. I'm in the Buddhist Studies department at Naropa now, and I find that --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You said we shouldn't what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Reject the academic tradition at Naropa.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, we're not talking about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: We should go on further with that in a way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1471.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: So, I was wondering what thoughts you had about how we should continue our discipline in terms of our academic studies?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very strict. Very strict. Particularly Buddhist studies, or anything else -- scientific studies, or linguistic studies, whatever we have. Academic situation is very strict. And there's no problem with that at all. And that is one of the problems that the University without Walls, whatever we had in this country, be shied away from the whole thing. That academia is regarded as embarrassment, and in Naropa Institute we don't do that at all. And we just go along all the time. What is required by academic situation, traditions and linguistic studies, and otherwise we don't make any good translation from the Tibetan into the English at all. If we relaxed the whole thing, we would come up with our own trips. So we go very straightforward, absolutely straightforward. And black means black in all languages. And red means red in all languages. And practice means in all languages.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that how we cut through our own trips?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we don't even have to cut through, but we just end up that way because there's no other way! [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [Laughs] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1499.0,1608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Allen?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: I was a-- Rinpoche, I was a little confused by your reference to Goddard College, which seemed to be a criticism of it, in regard to apple picking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --and a little confused by your reference to assassination of teachers, from the point of view--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you were.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --presumably a criticism of the student radicalism of previous decades.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: But what-- the reason I was confused... [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I understand you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1608.0,1647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: The reason I was confused was that the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --the basic proposition of Goddard College is very similar to your own basic proposition, of a sympathy toward medieval personalism--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --basket weaving--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolute--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --clothing making. And direct relationship to farming, and grounding--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --sort of vipassana--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --and the student and radical rebellion against the university system of the sixties and early seventies--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --is also based on a dislike of extremist industrial revolution homogenization of education.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --to a point where it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: -- it becomes very war-like. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: So this is what confusing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I understand the whole thing! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --in your language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1647.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. I understand the whole thing. But there's a little catch there. There's a little catch there, is: people picking apples could be regarded as their particular degree and program is fine, if they pick apple properly. But I have my reservation as to Goddard school has never taught them how to be mindful, how to be aware, to catch apple. And that's my objection. And if it's just purely do anything you want, as if anybody has a shamatha-vipashyana discipline in doing that that's fine. There's no problem. And we could say that the Buddhists always walk like zombie around the hall, called \"kinhin\", \"walking meditation.\" And what you going to achieve that? But still, we achieve something. But idea is that that kind of a situation -- how much you can give a student a freelance possibilities. Freelance... [laughter]. We might kill somebody [laughter], if you freelance [laughs]. It's very dangerous to have freelance! You might hurt somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1703.0,1795.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: From-- I had looked at some of the curricula of Goddard College relating to agriculture and gardening, and it seemed to be vipassana approach to gardening, direct relationship to earth--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --in conservation and recycling--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But I think [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --very expertly done--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: But I don't know about the apple picking, is that a literal thing that you're referring to or image?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well liberal thing is good--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: No, *literal* -- literal thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Is this a *literal* activity you were referring to? Or an *image*? Or an image that you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's too much literal. When you become too literal, you don't get anything. Literal-ness have to have a vision, and meditative discipline behind that whole thing, otherwise it would be very difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: But my question was was the apple picking-- in the apple picking example, was that a literal example of what you think goes on there, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --an image for what you think goes on there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1795.0,1848.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's naive. [Laughter] And that naivete could have an insight beyond that. And we could say the same thing about following our breath out and out, in and out, could be silly. Everybody build-- breathes [sound of exaggerated breathing] . So what. And meditating on that is absurd. But we have a more information beyond that; is be aware and mindful of your out and in breath. Which makes the meditation practice what we do is valuable. Same thing could apply to apple picking situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's a question of... exterior form is purely worthwhile. Or else exterior form requires certain amount of mental effort to get oneself into,so that your education system is worthwhile. And fundamentally you learn how to become concentrate in your work of art, work of education; that your span of attention is concentrated in one-pointedness, and you have less subconscious gossip as you study, even apple picking. Opposed to just purely sunny-side out, all the time. It's a long question and big question. But the spontaneous disciplines that be presented without tradition, or spontaneous tradition that presented *with* tradition, has tremendous differences -- you must know that, Allen. That there is a tremendous difference: if there's a tradition behind the whole thing, it works. If there's no tradition but just freelanced [laughs], it would hurt other people. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1848.0,1984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You want to say something more, Allen?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, please.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: My understanding of the Goddard College curricula was that it was an attempt to recover tradition, nineteenth century direct tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we'll see.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Or-- and direct relationship. And was not that sloppy after its first years of experiment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I know but-- well I happens to meet some of the students there, and they are French people maybe, and they didn't so good job. So, needs structure, some kind of wall. We know that, don't we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=1984.0,2025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, what do you see is specifically wrong with our own trips?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who we are? What do you mean talking about \"our own\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What do you see is essentially wrong with the way we project our trips onto other people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is \"our\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What we think we are. Our thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2025.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean \"your trips,\" or \"our trips\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"My\" trips.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh \"my trips\", oh that's better. [Laughter] Well, people can get hurt. Destroyed. If there's no tradition behind it. And that's the idea of lineage, that we even try to cut down, presenting descriptions of individual's experience in practice meditation. That we always tell our meditation instructors to not confess, and describe, but treat students freshly, according to the doctrine that been presented, so do it properly that way. So we can cut ourselves out, and just present students what they should be done-- they should be doing. And one-- when we begin to say, \"I had a-- I have seen... clear light, don't you? And you should.\" And then student might say, \"Oh, yes of course I've seen that too.\" [Laughter] So then we both go down the drain. [Laughter; applause] Trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're more than welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2065.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you. I've enjoyed your talking tonight, and I've also enjoyed very much my stay here at Naropa, which has been short, but it's been very fulfilling for me. And I have felt very much from my teachers, the whole person that you were speaking of, the whole person approach to education, and it's been a very whole person experience for me, here. I feel like I've come, for me, to the right place. But I am having a [laughing] problem with a particular thing, which is I keep telling myself is superficial, and not to have a problem with it, but it keeps coming back. And that is this suit and tie stuff [laughter], and the nylon stockings, and the this whole thing, which to me represents -- I mean you speak of tradition, it represents to me a tradition that *I* have very negative feelings about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And the little bit that I've talked to people about, they say that you are speaking of leading a dignified lifestyle, and I wonder if that's where it's coming from. And I wonder-- I just wonder about it, I mean I appreciate a dignified lifestyle, but I have a very hard time with the suits and ties, and that whole thing. I can't get rid of it! [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you'll be very lucky, you don't have to wear ties. [Speaker laughs; laughter] You can wear your dresses!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, but the nylon stockings too!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh stockings, that will be fine? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stockings will be all right? Don't you think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I-- no I don't like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] You have to wear--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't-- I have a hard time--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At least you have to wear underpants. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, but do you know what I'm speaking-- I mean do--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2185.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, yes I know. [Laughter] I'm somewhat-- I'm playing ignorant. But the... some reference point, can you imagine everybody's dressed up in the kimonos? Would you prefer that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No but-- yeah, personally I would because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Prefer that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Personally.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody wears kimonos, and samurai hairdress? [Laughter] How about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2316.0,2344.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: No, I appreciate what you're saying, and that's what I keep telling myself, \"it's just clothes,\" you know. But I still-- it represents to me the oppressive, materialistic, upward mobility, American thing, that I really--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, sure. It's not American, it's European.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --goes against my grain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not American, it's European. It's your ancestor's approach. And maybe you had a reaction to your parents, who treat you badly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, my parents don't treat me badly. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Really? Do they wear suit and ties?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, they do not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Never ever?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well once in a while. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, once a while. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Not very often.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But did they wear, when they are on business, before they retire?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Not a three-piece suit. [Laughs; laughter] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They never did that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you sure?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How old are they?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How old are they?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Fifty-five.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we could talk to them first. [Laughter; laughs] Well, you see, I don't see any particular problems, you know. What does it represent, wearing a suit and tie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2344.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: Well, I mean you speak of the importance of tradition--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but if you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --well that represents a tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah-- well I think it does.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, that's good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2427.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's beyond that? What's negative aspect of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well the tradition that it represents--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uptight?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uptight?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. Uptight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2439.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's theism tradition. Theism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't know theism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theism?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't know theism? You don't know God? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] I don't know the word \"theism\", what it means.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: God?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: God, yes. I know God.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Christ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: God, theism. Theism, God. Connection.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What does it have to do with suit and ties?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You ask your grandfathers about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2449.0,2486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: You're not theistic and you're wearing a suit and tie! [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it! You got it! [Laughter; laughs] You got it! That's the twist! That's twist! [Laughter] That's twist. I'm not theistic, I still wear suit and tie, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nYes, yes. And that goes beyond theistic and nontheism. It's human costume, of the West. And often the uptightness that *you* talk about is that Christian ethic: ties with uptightness and wearing suit and coat. And you can't even get into your country club, without suit and tie. And you have to be straightforward, militant Christian. And \"I believe in world of the God, as Christian soldiers\" concept. But we have a twist [snaps fingers] on that, that we decide to separate the theistic and nontheistic costumes, into a total *human* costume of the West. You can wear suit and tie. You don't need to be religious, a-religious, or you don't need to be uptight, ethical, particularly. And just basic dignity, how you wear your things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, I think that's possible I just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's possible, it's *more* than possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. But I think people should be careful about it I guess. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm glad you understand that. Tell your friends the differences, okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2486.0,2600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And there is some subtle differences. And how we become Westerners; I respect Western culture. But I do not *particularly* respect theism, per se. And we are nontheistic people, which also respect Western tradition. Which we call it \"warrior traditions\" of the West. The King Arthur's court, is fine. Anything like that is fine. But when things begin to come down heavily into religious world, and religious warfare. And when begin to come down as a Spanish Inquisition, it's very heavy. And it's a fight between theism and nontheism, God and godless. And you know that Buddhism is godless, which means nontheism. And that point there's a problem. And not a problem in the dress, culture, how we eat with knives and forks. But it's a belief; belief in eternity, opposed to impermanence. We could elegantize ourselves with a suit and tie, but we don't believe that we going to be like that *forever*. We dressed as occasional celebration -- one day. Next day we might die. We don't have any substance to maintain ourselves, we don't have ego. The theism will say we have ego. So Naropa Institute is based on non-ego. That Naropa Institute may exist, may not exist, but still we go on with our celebration altogether, with our suit and tie. [Laughter] Celebration.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2600.0,2743.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, how awake can we become, through Nalanda education?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How totally awake can we become through Nalanda education, Shambhala viewpoint?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As much as we can.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: All the way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. All the way means a reference point. And a conditional reference point does not carry all that long way. But as far as you think you can, that's it. One never knows, on the other hand.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Has it been done before? 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In--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Hello, are you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [male voice] I'm wondering in terms of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oooooh!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Pardon? [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; applause].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ah yes? Yes *sir*!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: My mother has short hair, so I just make up for it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2883.0,2920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: I was wondering that-- I hear you talk about the vision of people coming to Naropa to become decent, or to be decent.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How do you view Naropa-- well, do you view Naropa as having a role in terms of the people who are *not* decent? The people that, you know, I mean there are so many people--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --just in this country who don't care about other people. And a lot of things are happening, you know, like in, you know, like in you know nuclear warfare or whatever you want to talk about. But do you think that Naropa, the students, the faculty, you, whoever is concerned with it, do you think that we have a *role* in terms of those people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dealing with indecent people?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2920.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, that's very Buddhist logic actually. In order to have relate with the indecent people, you have-- in order to work with decent people, we have to work with the decent people, and anybody who is indecent could become decent. Otherwise we don't have any decent people at all. [Laughter] You see that's the whole point! That's the whole logic of Naropa Institute altogether, that supposing everybody's indecent, therefore that *is* Naropa Institute's work, and because everybody's indecent, therefore we have more materials to work with decency. Otherwise if everybody is decency we are out of business. [Laughter] You understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yes, I do. I'm just wondering that if--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it! That's the idea. SPEAKER11: Uh huh. But *I* get the feeling that in this country, being my own country, that there's a time limit on some things, and that since--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2973.0,3037.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't worry. *Don't* worry. Everything's all right. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I somehow have a hard time really believing that, because it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you find out. We have proved ourselves in past five years, or seven years, whatever we had, and we continuously go on. And our reference point in dealing with our student materials is we-- to begin with work with the indecent people, always. And then we make into decent people, all the time. And then will be more indecent questions coming from those people who become decent already. And then we begin to graduate them further decency, and then further decency, they begin to question and explore further indecency. So we keep on escalating that way, all the time until there's no indecency at all. So we work with that whole thing, altogether. And we have achieved that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And so never mind the statistics then, right? Because there indecence--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are not tired of anything. We are never tired of anything, that's our role. We are never tired of anything at all. We are keep on collecting indecent people, make into decency. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *All* the time. And we're proud of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=3037.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41347/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ladies and gentlemen, maybe we have to close this point. And thank you very much in meeting with us. And please, please try to maintain your discipline. And your discipline is not purely just to save yourselves from uneducated level to educated level alone, but we have to help other people to do that as well. So you have a lot of tasks, and hopefully that when you educated here, you will educate other people and the rest of the world, in order to create enlightened society. And which I'm very encouraged of the past few years of Naropa Institute's existence, and we have never degraded ourselves at all. We have constantly progressed ourselves fantastically. And I take pride in all of you, and I see cheerful faces happening. And let us continue -- please don't give up, and please don't give up, in your world or yourself. It is very important for you to take further action and further effort. That having saved yourself, that's not enough; please don't relax in that. Having saved yourself, you have to go beyond, saving others, helping others. It is very important, and it is our project. And it is very necessary, in this world. Thank you so much, I love you all. And thank you for coming along to this particular institute, educational system, which we could quite proudly say, the best in the Western world. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=3144.0,3268.80644"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41348","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19800220VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41348/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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You got it!\n[Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586#t=2497.824,2505.695"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76202/file/164586/transcript/41348/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You got it!\nThat's the twist! 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