{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/2v2c825750/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1975-08-12: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra: Talk 7: Choiceless Magic"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1975-08-12"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/227/show\"\u003e1975 Naropa Institute: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 7: Choiceless Magic"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A talk about how to perceive the ordinary magic that exists in the world. Spark of magic arises not through conforming to others, but in exploring one's own uniqueness. Goal of the path traditionally seen as raising one's level of individuality, shedding ego so that true nature shines through. Seeing the world precisely is where iconography originates. Also acknowledging that our world is an anxious one;  willingness to transform anxiety through mindfulness and awareness. Possibility of transforming kitchen sink level \"problems\" into visual dharma. Magic as power, not over others, but within oneself.  Clarity of seeing allows us to click into iconography of cosmos, actual reality. Shows three slides without commentary: photograph of rock covered with lichen, moonset with a roof beam, Milarepa with skull cup."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","VIDEODVD: True Perception"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Choiceless Magic\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 07 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: TRUE PERCEPTION\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK421\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 03 2021 to Aug 26 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Al SanValentin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about how to perceive the ordinary magic that exists in the world. Spark of magic arises not through conforming to others, but in exploring one's own uniqueness. Goal of the path traditionally seen as raising one's level of individuality, shedding ego so that true nature shines through. Seeing the world precisely is where iconography originates. Also acknowledging that our world is an anxious one;  willingness to transform anxiety through mindfulness and awareness. Possibility of transforming kitchen sink level \"problems\" into visual dharma. Magic as power, not over others, but within oneself.  Clarity of seeing allows us to click into iconography of cosmos, actual reality. Shows three slides without commentary: photograph of rock covered with lichen, moonset with a roof beam, Milarepa with skull cup."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/208/small/thumbnail_164208_1664391827.jpg?1664395976","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750812VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4725.02857,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/208/small/thumbnail_164208_1664391827.jpg?1664395976","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/208/original/19750812VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4?1659502664","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4725.02857,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750812VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750812VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra - Talk 7 - Choiceless Magic]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=0.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. Tonight we are going to discuss the question of magic. [Laughter] [Smiles]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=56.0,86.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Different perspective to the world makes us different understanding, to actually functions of the phenomena. That seem to be one of the natural problems, or natural working basis that we have. From that particular basis, that we try to find some basic working situation as much as could find. Which are largely based on relying a basic principle, such as like, body, speech, and mind; white, black, red, blue, green. Heaven and earth, and all the rest of it. That we trying to find some kind of common ground in which that we could work together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=86.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That approach has been all along, always, that some sense of personal expressions that might take place in our life, such as like falling in love, such as like being extremely angry with somebody, and those situations are fantastic grounds to work on. But even those grounds, that there is a basic phenomena that is-- that you are in love, you are in hate. But still, the working basis have not been developed properly and completely. [sound person adjusts mic; Trungpa Rinpoche dramatically raises eyebrows, smiles at sound person; laughter] That we constantly try to reject individual fashions of realizing our particular styles of particular phenomena. And also of course of-- on those basis, we trying to reject, or trying to accept the potentiality and the possibilities of getting suckered into certain particular spiritual trips of all kinds. That people talk about, \"we are one.\" And people talk about the universality aspect of this power. Which are all expressions of frustration, which are based on the sense of that we can't accept our individualities, so therefore we would like to conform ourselves to some large body, basic order, basic situations. And poets find their problems, when they have difficulty in creating the work of poetry, they constantly refer back to the sun and the moon, or the Earth and national disasters. [Laughter]. Which are seem to-- seemingly somewhat are common but, and very difficult to get a hold of one's individuality. And people find it difficult to get hold of the basic individuality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=148.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems to be the one of the biggest problems that we have. Not necessarily spiritually, or otherwise, or whatever. That we do not trust our individuality. That something that does not express individuality, something that asked for basic monolithic figure, and monolithic principle that could govern us basically, generally. That we would like that. And we talk about theistic languages of those terms: that \"the maker of us is one person, one big granddaddy. And he-- who made us. And if you have any problems relating with *that* person, that we should try *harder*, still try harder. And mustn't give up.\" So that seem to be one of the problems, that individuality is completely neglected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=290.0,352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That doesn't necessarily mean to say, at this point, that there is room for immense individual trips are possible, and should be conducted that way necessarily. But some kind of awareness that we are *all* different. Basically, intrinsically, we are different: whether we have father, mother, children, or whatever we have, but nevertheless that our father and mother, our parents, our great great parents, are different than us. And we are different from ourselves from that point of view, as well as our children as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=352.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there is awareness of individuality; that whenever there is some kind of breakaway from conventionally accepted channel of thinking process, that we get completely frightened. And if anybody breaks the law, you might be put into a extremely unpleasant situations, psychologically or physically or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=395.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The nonacceptance of our individuality is seem to become problematic, and we will always would like to have our pre-prepared manual, pre-prepared travelogue, travel guide. That we could take the journey without hassled by our own individuality. That seem to one of the biggest problems. And actually that's the-- where the magic couldn't exist, is that we simply trying to relate with some common factor, some general principles that might be given to us. That we have our ideas, of this and that, so therefore that we might be included in that. And our ideas might be proclaimed, as part of the categories, in the general statement, rather than applying to us. And there's a lot of cowardness taking place on that point of view. That seem to be the general problem of state of mind or state of being, for that matter. That seem to be the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=430.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as individualities are concerned, it's also very tricky one. That when individuality exist, as what we are, there's a sense of confusion, uncertainty, and a sense of chaos, sense of orderliness, or whatever, does take place. But there's more room to explore, experience, the given world that exist, and its relationship to *ourselves*, personally. That we are individual entities who had a different expressions to the reality, in our own ways. When we see-- individually when we see white, that it may not be same white as that the editors of our life would assume that your white should have perceived. And when we see red, it's the same thing. And from that point of view, nobody has a right commit you into looney bin, if their if your particular perception doesn't fit with the general category according to the books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=507.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there is a lot of room for that kind of perspective. Which is not generally governed by one statement or basic statement alone, but it's governed by individualities, who are reacting to the basics. That when individuals react to water, it has a different experience, individuals react to fire, space, earth, it has a different kind of response to it. So individually that you begin to see different perspectives on that. And that situation does not get uniformed in any case, at all. That would be prolonged situation in any case, ongoing situation happens all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=604.0,656.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And actually the magic lies in that particular individuality, individualism, begin to relate with the basics of life, all kinds of things that exist, that we seemingly share which we have no idea exactly. That nobody had actually chance to tell each other exactly, precisely, that your perception of water is like, and you could use all kinds of words and concepts and ideas and terms, but somehow still does not make very clear to us. That that would be spokes-- that would be somebody else's concept of that. And occasionally a lot of great authors leave their work of art, in terms of writings, or pictures, or music, leave behind. We feel that we are in contact with such people, such artists, but we have no idea actually, exactly. Maybe if such artists are alive, that they might be *horrified* in us being so understanding about their particular work of art. That could be regarded as insult to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=656.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the spark or the magic lies in the individuality of it rather than the uniform situation. That in other word that we can't say that \"everybody can count down, and when we reach the zero, that now we can actually levitate everybody up here.\" Or \"when we begin to do our pushup on the counting down, and we could turn the world upside down.\" That's seem to be comic strips version of magic. The group of individuals who committed into a certain particular institution, certain particular organization, and suddenly everybody got high, and got turned on. That's in itself is a living comic. [Laughing] That's very funny. In its own way of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=733.0,802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is a lot of neglection of individuality always taking place. That in many cases that we're try to *avoid* our individuality. That we're try to emulate something else or other. That seem to be the one of the biggest problems that exists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=802.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Same thing applies to our own experience in our own life, in terms of visual perception and visual understanding of the iconography, is saying the same thing. That there is a basic iconographical pattern, just like the elements exist and seasons exist. But then there is another individual situation takes place at the same time: how we react to those situations. The path, generally, and the dharma and the teaching generally, does not refer to unifying everything, uniforming everything, and reducing everything into a little good tantric robots. There wasn't intentional. The intention is to raise individuality. But at the same time individuality can develop within the framework of some common world, which actually is very questionable at this point, but still it can perform that way. So finally the all the barriers broke through, all the bondages annihilated. Then, there is some kind of room for \"that and this are one,\" takes place. But it takes a lot of steps, takes a lot of times. And takes a lot of effort and discipline, all the time from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=829.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the phenomenal world is your *own* world in other word. That we cannot actually say that \"this phenomenal world is always predictable. When I see blue, you got to see blue.\" We can't say that. And maybe word \"blue\" that you know, and when I see blue you might see red, in my point of view, but from that point of view that your red is my blue. So we both agreeing on the saying, \"Oh yes there is a blue light, there is a red light, there is-- it's blue in color.\" But who knows? And nobody knows. So let us not make a psychological assumption that everything is secured: once we see blue light that we *mean* blue, basically. And perceptions are entirely different from that point of view. That goes much, much beyond that level as well. And I know a lot of people it is very frightening and threatening, but *let* us be threatening. Even your version of the idea being threatened, is entirely different. From your point of view being threatened, and from my point of being threatened could be entirely different. We might be using the merely conceptualized word, which actually say the same thing, but nevertheless when we come to realization of final things, probably we come up with different projects, different ideas, altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=930.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is no point in comparing our world particularly, from that point of view. And no reference point is necessary, or that seem to be simply wasting our particular energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1034.0,1054.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm afraid what we're discussing here is quite a dull one. It's not quite the same as that you are taking journey to Peru, and seeing the Indians in the Andes, or visiting the Tibetans in the Himalayas, any of those kind have extra kind of opium in it, extra kind of kick in it. But we've got to get back to the basics sooner or later, at some point; we got to really do it, the sooner the better. And more we try to get into those problems, entanglement, we going to find ourselves with more problems, that you are grown into situations much more and more, like ingrown toenail. That more the toe grow-- more the nails grows into the toe, and finally your whole leg might be have to be amputated. And we don't want to get into that situation. And early warning is best; before five minutes, or even if you could do it earlier than that -- before *years*, it’d be better. That such early warning system is seem to be the duty of somebody who speaks for the teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1054.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, let's get back to the this world, the world of ours. Which are not particularly attractive, exciting, and fantastic, particularly. It's okay. [Laughter] Maybe it's terrible. I can't speak for every one of you here. But somehow nevertheless it's, on the *whole*, it's a very *anxious* one. Whether we are happy or sad, or exuberated in joy, or exuberated in pain, it's anxious world, that we're living in. And sometimes in according to the Buddhist tradition, that anxiety is transmuted as-- transformed into mindfulness and awareness, where your anxiety can be related with, with a *reminder* that whenever there's anxiety takes place, there is a reminder, there is a jerk, there is a nudge  [makes elbowing gesture to the side]. That you could be reminded, you be woken up again and again. But that situation seem to be up to us. Whether we're trying to get *rid* of that reminder all along, and trying to make everything smooth and beautiful, and *fantastic*. Or whether we're trying to make this world into a training ground of learning more. I would suggest that it would be preferable to make it into training ground of learning situation more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1137.0,1254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the concept of iconography goes, that we are working on some kind of a journey, rather than that something purely entertaining and something exciting, and purely culturally fascinating. Could take a lot of levels there, a lot of understandings there. That one understanding is: \"Supposedly the whole thing is very sacred. If I know everything in terms of details, if I managed to *see* everything in details, then I might be saved one day, because of the merit of what I'm seeing, could be source of deliverance.\" And another thing is that: \"By seeing those particular perceptions, I might able to figure out the psychological geography, that presented by the Buddhist tradition, on how to develop freedom.\" And all of those points seem to be wasting time. At this point we are not talking about a particular freedom, necessarily, but we are talking about personal experience, that how we can actually see this world, how we can live *better*, if you like -- that's a good word; it's not goal-oriented, and \"how can I live tomorrow?\" How can I live right now, this way, properly? That seem to be the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1254.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so on those basis that whole thing, what we're going to discuss, what we *have* discussed already, goes through that particular approach. That how we can actually live our life, with our all kinds of garbage, rubbish, that exist around us. How we can *live our life*, amongst all kinds of hassle and the bustles and threats of our life, and hassled by our kids and hassled by our parents and grandparents, and how we can-- money problems, and all kinds of problems. Dues paying problems, and rent paying problems, and all these little things that goes through our life. How we can actually make this into a *visual dharma*. [Laughs] That seem to be it. That seem to be the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1351.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that-- let me just make clear that point -- I shouldn't have said that too soon. Is that how to make visual dharma, that doesn't mean to say how to make the whole thing *fantastic*. But how to make whole thing that actually something's happening, rather than particularly entertaining or great and fantastic, and greater Disneyland, out of this. Particularly. And I think Disneyland is one of the most best things that Americans produced, actually. [Laughter] That show the mirage-ness of life, and show the entertainment of how one can be amused, in the different ways. And when people take-- go to Disneyland, they take a different attitude altogether. \"This is something very casual, we're having a day off. And just we are doing it for the kids.\" [Laughter] That's not true.  [Shakes head] [Laughter] You do it for yourself. And the same as something like watching Sesame Street, that the parents watch much more than the kids do. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1411.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well basically tonight [picks up dorje] I would like to make further emphasis on that kind of magic that we are talking about, is power. And power not in the power over others, \"P. O. O.\", but power *beyond* over others. That power within oneself. And you have a strength and exertion and energy, to have the enough strength to view things as they are, personally, properly, directly. And have a chance to actually experience the haziness of life experience, can be also perceived, and also still a source of power. And the brightness of life, or sharp-edgedness of life, can be also experienced personally, directly, and fantastically, at the same time. And the magical power of the magic show situation, is seem to be just purely children's game. The-- we only want it for just to prove that such is that something supernormal power does exist. Maybe does exist, maybe doesn't exist, that seem to be just for the birds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1495.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the point we are raising here is, some sense of perception that is available, and that is also realistic, as far as your notion of reality goes. That we begin to find some kind of foot-holes [sic: footholds] or stirrups, that we could ride better, we could walk better, climb better. \"Foot-holes.\" That we don't be-- we don't committing suicide by climbing mountain. That we are not distorting the teaching; finally, instead of attaining further achievement that we end up ourselves in the vajra hell. That something actually applies personally. And actually works. And something is based on not so much the visual setup is always unique, the visual setup is always shifty. Not the visual things shift in themselves, but the perceiver's mind of individuality shifts constantly. So whole thing had to be clicked together. And some of the visual shifts become black magic -- if you like to call it -- deadly one. That if you take that particular attitude of self-destructive and egohood, that certain particular visual perception, audio perception for that matter, becomes destructive, because your relationship to that is based on aggression. So one's aggression is bounced back on you, and you become the victim of it, rather than somebody else. And also in other word, another sense visual perception becomes creative, and open situation. Most powerful situation of all. That it could become realistic and powerful and calming. Maybe \"calming\" is not quite a good word but \"clearing\" situation. Extreme clarity takes place, within that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1589.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that also brings sense of humor at the same time. That when you begin to click into certain visual situations, iconography of the cosmos this point we are talking about, that we are able to actually experience some sense of reality. That is not depend on the *reinforcement* of the reality. That we are seeing the reality. And you don't have to talk to your neighbors, say \"am I seeing reality?\" Doesn't depends on that. In other word it's an unconditional experience: that nobody had to confirm what you experience but you can confirm yourself. Sometimes if you confirm yourself, constantly and heavy-handedly, that could be incest. But sometimes confirmation within oneself is just right. Just like sipping and tasting and swallowing, and digesting properly. So that's just right. And that’s just the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1744.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this visual world of-- and audio or whatever, perceptual world of magic that we experience, it's not so much of that there is no magic, and that \"these days, we are the dark age.\" And a lot of people would like to say that, that \"we are too *late*. Wait for the next blast, that might come up. And somebody might turn up, by saying they are the savior. And you lost chance this point; the only thing you can do is you can hope for them.\" But we are not talking those terms. Or we are not talking about those terms in, \"There *was* some people in the past. That you have to emulate them, and that's the best you could do. Presently nobody is making a big deal. Nobody is getting out anything, getting into anything at all. That whole thing, whole world, become flat.\" That's another perspective that takes place. And there are a lot of people frustrated and therefore they've got to say those things. And I think why we're-- reason why they're saying is quite true for *themselves*; they're speaking on their *own* behalf rather than they're speaking publicly. And people say that \"enlightenment never exist, until after the Buddha's time. That these days nobody attains enlightenment.\" And some people say that, \"Maybe there's next enlightenment session, enlightenment plague might take place, in the next 500 years' time. But not this time. The only thing you got to *pray* to it: you're trying to reborn back and back, back and back. So you can-- better be good boys and good girls. So that you'll be good candidate to be that.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1823.0,1935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are also similar approaches taking place in Christianity, of a lot of situation like that as you know. Either the past-oriented or the future-oriented. And somehow those process, those approaches, become old hat at this point. And people trying to develop some kind of gimmick right and left, to convince us to convince.  [Picks up dorje and places on arm of chair] And not quite actually convinced by them. That we got to feel firsthand account, what's goes on. Rather than what stories might tell you. Whether we're going to be in Jerusalem next year or tomorrow or the next hour, doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is that if Jerusalem does exist now, at this very moment, I could be there tomorrow or the day after or next year, in next seder, whatever [laughs] you have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=1935.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question is having some kind of --- not exactly emergency situation, as such, but having some kind of sense of precision and understanding, direct understanding. That this world is ours, it's not future-oriented world. \"Once we've been saved, that this world is going to be ours.\" Or, \"if you become like the past good people, that we actually have the privilege of using their leftovers.\" But this world is ours, directly, precisely; this is our world. It's personal world, it's real world, direct world. That iconography is existing there. And it's real world. That seem to be the very magical one of all. I'm so-- I'm point-- I'm sorry to say that when we talk about tonight are going to talk about magic, there wasn't supposed to have any kind of punchline. But it's just a general statement, of way things work and that seem to be the only magic that exist is this life, this world, this particular phenomena that we are all experiencing right at this moment, right now, *here*. That you are in this particular magic. Because that I am a captive speaker, and you are a captive audience. That we can't just walk out *right now*, right this point. Just break in middle of sentence, we can't just say \"that was over, let's give that *up*!\" And even if you're trying to do that, the implication behind that will linger on us for a long time. It will be subject of our conversation and memories and everything. So we can't wipe out our past, or present or future from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2047.0,2180.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the magic exist at this point; that it is direct magic and personal magic that actually is lingering, in our state of being. So this is *choiceless* magic that exist: that we are here, everybody is here, that choiceless magic. And you might say \"there's nothing is happening to me, anything funny. I don't see auras, and I don't see visions, or I don't see anybody descending from upstairs.\" We are not talking about that particularly. But we are talking about right now, here, this particular process. And communication's taking place -- why *should* there communication taking place? Why should taking-- communication take place at all? Why this has happened; what on Earth? What happened? Well, we don't expect a sudden thunderstorm or sudden earth shake, but we expect *some* kind of thunderstorm, individually. Of the great magic, of the visual dharma. If somebody suddenly performed-- decide to perform miracles here, I think that would be extremely corny. So if there are any hidden siddhas, don't try to do it. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2180.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well we might look into some of the shots that I chose tonight, which are not particularly, necessarily magical, but has some kind of ideas of magic. It's not extremely dramatic. And tonight we have lots of slides.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2309.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 1: Photo of rock with lichen]\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's piece of rock with... moss on it, or what you call, fungus or--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Lichen. Lichen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lichen, lichen. That's it! [Laughter] Leica!  [camera brand]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2326.0,2405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 2: Photo of moonset with roof beam]\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's quite an ordinary shot actually; it's just a moonset, with a big beam coming out of the roof of the house, and the ridges.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2405.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 3: Milarepa with skull cup]\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's one of shots of Milarepa, in his life in practicing and undergoing ascetic discipline, holding the skull cup with the gold rim, particularly here in this particular thangka.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis particular shot is rather dark, because the reading was taken on the gold light.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay.\r\n\r\n\r\nHave the lights on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2520.0,2703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have any questions you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2703.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: With-- yeah. Without getting too trippy about it, I was wondering if you could point out the different visions of the buddha families in those photographs? Like, the second one struck me as being, you know, very crisp and clear. And it was a photograph of the sun coming up in the East, so it seemed to be a very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Moonset. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh. It's the moon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Moonset.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh. [Laughs] Well it did seem to have certain qualities of the East. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose so, that sometimes the sun sets in the West, comes back in the East. [Laughter] And the moon sets in the West, right--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2730.0,2776.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So I thought people could keeping on taking photographs of sunsets, I thought why shouldn't somebody take photograph of *moonset*. [Laughs] But... sort of vajra shot. Yeah, it's precision still although it's West, but still it has a connection with the East, and -- [makes amusing nodding gesture] -- kind of... [Laughter] *Because* of so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I was wondering if you could comment on the other two photographs. Different elements?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2776.0,2812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I would like to go through this whole thing, publicly. That we might have some kind of study of the principles, that coming up in the five principles, maybe coming next time sometime, on them. And first one is somewhat sort of ratna, over-crowdedness situation which provide some kind of space at the same time. And last one is I would say is something like karma, that you know it's very austere and at the same time quite cold. But still showing some kind of wealth, and gold light that coming out.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Speaker1 nods in thanks; CTR nods back]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2812.0,2864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Does individuality arise from ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's interesting point; I'm glad you asked that question, because that's one of the point that we have to be quite *clear*. Is individuality is sometimes comes out of ego, because that we would like to exist as individual emperors, or kings, or whatever... millionaires or whatever. But some point, individualities comes from a personal inspiration of way you are, simply how you are. You know, does not come from particularly ego either. It seem to be level of one's journey, you know, how far you have been able to kind of... shedding of ego takes place. And you know, that you have your own particular style and nature, that you can't just avoid. That seem to be natural thing, yeah. It would be like, you know asking Avalokiteshvara to be a ratna person, and if he try to reform himself that way he couldn't do it. Has something like that, you know. It's that your inherent nature becomes you know, as enlightened expressions at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2864.0,2959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What can we do when we are confronted with magic which is ego based, or black magic as you described it? How can we handle that situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2959.0,2977.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said that? Can you raise your hand? I lost your-- you, oh you! [Laughs] Well it's not so much of how you're going to handle it, particularly. But I think it's a question of how much we *believe* in ego. That if we believe in ego, is somewhat a castle build on ice block. Basically nonexistence, happens to be nonexis-- happens to be existing structure, which is pure myth. I think that's the basic point. That people find that they are subject to spells and black magics and witchcraft and all kinds of things of that nature, because they invite them. And so, finally the witchcraft tease; the priests don't have to do anything to you, but they make themselves up, whole thing, so you know, whole thing becomes too powerful for them to handle. So it's a question of, one's mind is how much you put input of any kind of things, you know, any kind of expectations that you're going to have. And that seems to be the natural process. I don't see any problems particularly there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=2977.0,3057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Well is there a way to distinguish objectively between magic which comes out of a spiritual tradition, versus magic which seems to be more black magic or sort of ego-based magic? There's some aggression behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3057.0,3079.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You said it. It's aggression behind it. Precisely. You know, in the spiritual disciplines of the-- the other spiritual disciplines, higher spiritual, egoless spiritual disciplines, is that there is no ego-based practices. That you can't witness your own attainment of enlightenment festival, anymore. [Laughs] You know you can't really say \"how great I am and now here we are. I'm the living, enlightened being.\" You don't exist that way. And if you want to do it then it becomes black magic obviously, you know, or ego tripping. So it's very simple. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3079.0,3139.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nPETER GOLDFARB: Rinpoche, I'm aware that all of the photos that we saw tonight, and if I recall correctly a number of the ones we've seen in the past, have been taken on the vertical plane rather than the horizontal plane. That leads me to all kinds of fantasies and interpretations but I wonder if you would care to comment on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I would like to see them as kind of, there lots of headroom for space. And I was actually tempted to sort of invent different focal lens, which has just purely circular frame, rather than anything else. That would be nice. I was attempted to actually trying to construct some-- such camera; it can be done.\r\n\r\n\r\nPETER GOLDFARB: So that you feel by going to the vertical, it's closer to the circular than on the horizontal plane--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's kind of, you know, you're extending to your brother and all your brothers, your sister-in-law and your sisters. Everything is sort of fattening, little bit. And there's not enough space above. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nPETER GOLDFARB : Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3139.0,3219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, you said that black magic had to do with aggression. It would seem that there would be a great amount of black magic around, insofar as ego equals aggression, and there's a lot ego aggression in our worlds. Is this the same as black magic, from an ego spiritual tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think some people try to use magic, and some people trying to use the Mafioso.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No, I'm not talking about *that* form of it. I mean on a very ordinary way, in that we say behind a lot of ego is often a lot of aggression. In that simple sense, could that also be called a form of black magic as opposed to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you could. I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3219.0,3272.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: One other question, you mentioned about clicking into things visually, as a sign that you're making a certain kind of progress. Where does the notion of emptiness come in, and of spaciousness, which seems to -- I'm not sure, but it seems to take leave of appearances, or -- that's not quite right, but... You mentioned the phenomenal world, and it's as if it's-- we never let go of the phenomenal world, no matter what level our understanding is. How does emptiness come into that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the fullness, or the more fuller the phenomenal world is, empty of that much at the same time. You see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, more full the phenomenal world is -- full of all kinds of things, chaos and order and everything -- and that *is* emptiness at the same time on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you see?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Great! [Questioner laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's the flip side of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not even flip sides of the coin particularly, it's one side of the coin seeing in different-- in different ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's-- we never do lose touch then with the phenomenal world, do we? I mean it's not as if there's [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope not. Otherwise, you know, that's there's a lot of conflict between shunyata and karuna. Compassion and emptiness. And in the sense that compassion is inseparable with the emptiness, at the same time. So, you can't have any kind of tenderness, if there's no shunyata, or if there's no emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [inaudibly] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3272.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, could you talk some more about what you said, how we are different from ourselves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aren't we?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you mean different than what we think we are, how other people perceive us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Just basically you are different from yourself. Not reference point of view point, but just you *are* different from yourself. Otherwise you couldn't *exist*. You would have perished already. And the reason why that you are continuing your-- you as you are personally, is that you're different from yourself each time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Got that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Sort of. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sort of. Think about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3416.0,3484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Coming back to the question of magic being connected with your individuality--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You said-- coming back to the magic being connected with individuality...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Isn't the basis of the possibility of magic -- say in the siddha tradition, what makes magic possible at all -- somehow that the same energy is resonating inside us as is resonating in through the phenomenal world? Sort of with this uni--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not same energy as individual energy. That's why there's existence of eighty-four siddhas, which are historically-- which are I'm sure there are a lot of more than those people. And they have different experience, different expressions. Some are kings and some are ministers, and some are prostitutes, some are food sellers, some are weavers, some are carpenters and blacksmith, and all the rest of it. So, there are also possibilities of that individual expression makes more sense of magic, rather than everybody should conform themselves in eating brown rice -- \"everybody should eat brown rice,\" or \"everybody should lie down in a low bed.\" Anything with those nature doesn't apply anymore. Because I think that seem to be low-grading the individuality from that point of view.[Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But doesn't the possibility for magic come from somehow getting down to a more basic level of energy, that exists--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, but basic from what point of view you're talking about? Each wire has a different connection with each bulb, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, but the main--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's basic in it's own way, but it will be different kind of basic than what you have or I have or what she or he has. Different kind of basics, you know. That the foundation of this room-- this building is different than the one across the street. It's a different kind of basics, but still it's basic. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3484.0,3631.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, could you elaborate on the difference between state of mind and state of being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very observant of you. State of mind is somewhat chattering thoughts. And state of exist-- state of being is just simply existing, surviving. As you are, basically. That being human or being cat or being dog.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3631.0,3687.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you say that we can all have our own basic ground, I get the feeling that you mean that experientially, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well what else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, I mean you don't want to talk about any ontological, common basic ground. I mean that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that become a sort of therapeutic realm--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that you have basic ground with your brother, because both you and your brother were neglected by your mother. And that kind of basic ground which is seem to be somewhat very poverty-stricken. [Laughs] So it's, you know, basic ground, just basic ground. And you share same world, but at the same time you don't quite share the same world, at the same time. That there is some kind of differences taking place. Even though you might be twins, you might lead the same life, you know, you might be taking the same trip, you have different experience altogether. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So the idea is that we just should stand on our basic ground and trust--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [Laughs] Should just stand on our basic ground, instead of being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Should what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Should have confidence in our ground that we're right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Confident?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3687.0,3786.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat. Somewhat, yeah. Well, I would say some kind of reliance, but at the same time, expecting all kinds of threat. And if you begin to try to establish reliance in your basic ground, that quite reliable situation might happen is, would feel extremely lonely. Because nobody would understand you. You know, \"I would like to express what-- how I feel.\" And the definition what we discussed tonight, is that you can't actually explain to anybody how you feel. You can try your best, and they will understand in their own terms. And you really have no chance of experiencing -- *expressing* to anybody that how you feel at all. So that makes very lonely, extremely lonely and frustrating. Because sometimes when are in a *such state*, you really would like to pour out everything to your beloved, or good friend or whatever, you know. That you really would like to pour out everything *completely*. And that seem to be impossible to do it. And there's also tricky things going on at the same time, when you would like to pour out. That also that are you expecting that they would share your shit, at the same time. And do some kind of dirty work along with you. And somehow sort of polite version of confessing, in some sense. And that's seem to be too much tricky, and it is not going to [laughing] work. And it wouldn't happen anyway, you know. That's asking too much. And one had to clean one's own shit, than asking somebody else to [laughing] clean it up. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3786.0,3941.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady in the white, in the back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, your second photograph--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Your second photograph, of the moonset, it made me laugh, but it was insulting, somehow. I mean that big-- it looked all very beautiful and then there was this big \"mmh\" thing coming out -- [laughter; laughs], and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean the thing on the top?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, I mean the thing on the top.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I mean, that's seem to be a problem, that... [laughter] I think that particular thing that come out of the shot was the only saving grace, that the whole shot doesn't become postcard. [Questioner nods and laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, were-- did you mean to be... funny, I mean sort of? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Was it, was it-- I mean it was really *funny*. Did it-- did you mean to be funny?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's humorous at the same time; there are lot of solidness takes place. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3941.0,4011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, it's-- you don't have to have just polite world. That everybody drinking afternoon tea, and taking a watermelon sandwich [laughter], in the English country garden. [Laughs] But it's some kind of real world, but at the same time it's a sense of beauty is involved. It's not just, you know, pissing and shitting. But it's somewhat beautifully set. That there is that moon and horizon -- if there wasn't that thing coming out, and you do not know where you are, you know. You could be doing all kinds of things. So there's some kind of reference point, and also it sort of saves from being postcard. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, where was the -- [makes circular motion with hand] -- is the-- you said that last time that there was sort of a circle of focus  [Trungpa Rinpoche begins making circular motion with dorje] on it, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the last talk?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, yeah I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The circle in center?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, it was a cent--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4011.0,4094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that it touches the whole areas. It touches the rim of the pole, touches the rim of the light. And the action, the central focus on the space, rather than-- the moon is not particularly related with the central theme of anything. Nor for that matter none of the poles, but just the space in the middle. That seem to be interesting point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, so it's in the middle, or is it--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is it in the middle, the focus--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's in the middle, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It's in the *middle*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It's not sort of just a little--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Particularly this one is right in the middle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Right. But could the focal point of some photographs be down, could they be up, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it could be, depends on the framing situations, that are-- you know, how the up and down, and also the-- how heavy things as they are. But basically things had to be, you know, very basic. And had to be somewhere in the middle, otherwise you can change your logic all the time. Which seem to be a source of a cop-out, chicken out all kinds of things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [Laughs] Well, I don't understand that. So it has to be in the middle? Something has to be in the middle all the time? [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4094.0,4176.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it had to be in anoth-- basically some kind of heart. Like if you present a human body, you have to have a brain, nevertheless but you have to have a heart and your lung in your chest and everything. That things evolves around here, some point, and that seem to be the same kind of principles, which also takes same kind of pattern in the Japanese flower arrangement tradition, as well. There is a focal situation, where the actually activity is taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat time is it? Do you know, anybody? Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Sharp inbreath] [Laughter] Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4176.0,4227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\n[NOTE: speaker is hearing and speech-impaired]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How is one to actually--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --attain the ability to open up to situations as is, instead of always holding back, and finding some excuse to perpetuate fearful situation, misconceptions, and so on?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very difficult question to answer.  [Smiles] Can you say it in different ways? Can you say it in a different form?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How can one find the energy or the space to relax in what could be claustrophobic situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  [Nods] Space and relaxed, did you say? Space and *relaxed*?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [Motions toward Trungpa Rinpoche to say it again]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  [To someone else in the audience] Do you remember?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Here, hold this.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Speak a little bit slower and louder because I can't hear very well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Addressing attendant] Space and what?\r\n\r\n\r\nATTENDANT: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Nods] Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: How can someone relax [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, let's [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12:  [confers with Speaker11] Okay, how is someone to deal with claustrophobic situations in real life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It seems that a sense of space that you have when you sit, from when you are in the kitchen or the living room, that seems to go completely.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, whenever there's space is crowded, overcrowded, that *is* space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Say that again. You said \"space is crowded...\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4227.0,4387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know like, if you have a view from here in *my* place, you sat here and look at these people here, you see there's no-- not very much gap here. And everybody's sitting almost covering the whole floor. And I regard that as space. That I'm talking to these people. And if the whole thing's crowded, I have no way to talk to them. And, you know, they-- they're just completely filled. There's no *receptivity* involved. But I think the sense of receptivity, and the sense of that there *is* some kind of room, that whole thing is turn out to be, for me, as far as I'm concerned, that everybody here, somewhat, sometimes, doesn't exist as individual who are trying to struggle their heavy trips onto me particularly. And you know they are-- they're friends here, who would like to hear something about it, which is seem to be very simple, and there are lots of space goes along with that. And sometimes, somebody becomes very aggressive in asking question, that that probably covers --  [makes sustained circle in air with forefinger]  -- some little areas of radiance around him or her, and trying to block that space. But that in itself becomes a work of art, in the rest of the empty space that exist. Which are based on, you know, that \"hungry ears\" -- to be audience, is \"hungry ears.\" There's no problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4387.0,4498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, one last question before we close down, if you have one, and better to be good one. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, shiny-headed guy. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You talked about the magic concerning the auditory and the visual stimulus--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Audial.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --and I guess my kind of-- my question is around, the ego, in the sense to secure itself, selects out certain things to see, certain things to hear. Doesn't actually see what's in front of it, or hear what's going on. And there's magic in being able to see what's actually going on. My question is, are they two separate things, seeing and hearing, to develop the magic of being able to see, and the magic to be able to hear --  [Trungpa Rinpoche thumps point of dorje onto arm of chair]  -- in this egoless sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could both become together?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Right, are-- they become one or they become--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well seeing is same as hearing, at the same time. There's no problem with that; it's just purely perceptual level. When you see you hear it. And sometimes your ears see it and your eyes hear it. That situation takes place all the time. And that seem to be advanced learning process. That learn to see and hear and smell with every sense perceptions, sense organs, that you have.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But it seems to me that sometimes I get an ability to *see* things clearly but not be able to hear, to take in, that kind of a way. Are they separate? Do they develop in separate ways?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shouldn't be separate. Shouldn't be separate. And usually seeing is much more immediate. Hearing is secondary. And less speedy. So maybe something to do with your speed, way you conduct yourself.  [Smiles] \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4498.0,4645.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39635/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, thank you everybody. I trust there's no more announcement need to be made or anything like that? Okay! Have a good night's sleep.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=4645.0,4725.02857"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750812VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=56.02,58.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight we are going to discuss\nthe question of magic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=58.85,68.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=68.37,86.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Different perspective\nto the world","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=86.71,89.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"makes us\ndifferent understanding,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=89.77,92.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to actually functions\nof the phenomena.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=92.97,96.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be\none of the natural problems,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=96.25,101.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or natural working basis\nthat we have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=101.37,105.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that particular basis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=107.86,109.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we try to find some basic\nworking 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3345.03,3346.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you see?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208#t=3346.31,3347.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76123/file/164208/transcript/39636/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: 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