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A review of the previous two maras: devaputra-mara and klesha-mara. Mara is constantly trying to avoid the death of ego, which kills the possibility of enlightenment. Skandha-mara comes from our psychological state of being: form, feeling, perception, formation, and consciousness. Wisdom side of the skandha of form as spaciousness. Transforming those energies into their wisdom form, one can overcome the maras.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 27 2019 to Aug 29 2020 Transcribing: Harry Einhorn Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1981"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout the skandha-mara (solidifying the belief in the five skandhas, or components of ego) and how to overcome it. A review of the previous two maras: devaputra-mara and klesha-mara. Mara is constantly trying to avoid the death of ego, which kills the possibility of enlightenment. Skandha-mara comes from our psychological state of being: form, feeling, perception, formation, and consciousness. Wisdom side of the skandha of form as spaciousness. Transforming those energies into their wisdom form, one can overcome the maras.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/258/783/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1733864255","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1733864239_19810829VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3665.78938,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/258/783/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1733864255","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/258/783/original/1733864239_19810829VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1733864242","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3665.78938,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19810829VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19810829VCTR1 - Public Seminar - RMDC - Conquering the Four Maras II - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Conquering the Four Maras, number two, held at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in Colorado. This is talk number four, August 29, 1981. This is an ARP digital remaster made March, 2008.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. In particularly, this connection with this ceremony, all this ITS, we'll say \"morning\", always. It is the growing and developing stage, where things are morning stage, of maybe dawn, maybe sunrise, and so on. You have heard already the fundraising activities, that is also connected with how we make the morning sunrise possible. Rather than finding shelter, when sun sets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=20.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With the same vision, the tonight's talk is a continuity of previous talk, of my Regent gave you. And we are talking tonight on the third mara, klesha-mara. I wonder what was the first mara.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Devaputra. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Second one is?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Klesha-mara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=100.0,156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This is slightly getting out of the ordinary. Maybe one of the students can say few words on the two maras, before we proceed further. Any volunteers? Please. All right. Microphone? Can you say something about the devaputra-mara?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you, Rinpoche. This terrifies me, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no... Yeah. In great honor.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The devaputra-mara, as I understand it, is our reaction to the terror of being alone. The sense of panic occurs, followed by a freezing of our relationship to basic reality. Devaputra comes in after this freezing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: After the--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: This freezing, and creates ignorance, cloud. Which we experience as a kind of pleasure. Once the door has been opened to devaputra, there is exertion to keep the clouds cloudy. And the other maras are invited in. And klesha-mara comes in, and lays a pattern of feeling-- exaggerated feeling, over the original thought that \"I am.\" \"If I am, then I must feel something, and it must be very exaggerated kind of feeling.\" Six kinds of feeling I think were mentioned. You can stop me any time. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Keep going. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm getting a little cloudy, myself, on this. I think the first feeling that was mentioned was a different kind of ignorance, passion, aggression. Envy. Greed. Somebody help me with the other one.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Pride. Pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think, yeah, ending with pride... I missed indifference? Thank you. I think I'm through, with what I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right. Very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=156.0,485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we have to understand basic meaning of \"mara,\" altogether, which is a very simple term, Sanskrit term. \"Mara,\" which is part of the term which is connected with idea of \"death\". Even in the modern India, they say, \"margiya\" [sic] [ed: mrta; mara hu'a] which means \"dead\". \"Joe Schimdt Margiya.\" Joe Schimdt is dead.\" \"Mar\" is \"Mara,\" \"Mar\". \"Mar-giya\" [sic] means \"gone, gone, dead.\" In modern India, Hindi even. So it's the same thing; it's \"mara\", and sometimes there is also in the mantra, \"mara-ya\", which means \"let them be dead\"; \"let them kill.\" \"Destroy them\" is \"mara-ya\". Which is one of the exorcism of, whatever the case may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=485.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So word \"mara\" has feeling of \"that which cause death.\" And at the same time, that is been twisted in the ordinary ego-centered level, non-ego level. In the ego-centered level, that anything that is obstacle to your glory, to your existence, has to be destroyed. So enemies had to be destroyed, and the friends has to cultivated. That's animal instinct, in some sense. That when a dog growls, that's beginning of attack. Inviting the opponent. Another dog growls back to it, and then have a dog-type language. And then finally two dogs meet and growl at each other, and not even bother to bark, but then begin to jump on each other's neck. And one of the dogs could win, or the other one could lose. So it's-- what we're talking about is not purely a human, and yogic, and Buddhist type of status alone, but we're talking about including animal instinct, of how we come to \"other\", when you want to be aggressive. And as we know that when we don't like, or when we have a confrontation, and dislikingness of somebody, and wanted to attack. These days, at least, that we become further sophisticated, and we don't use right away, swords and bows and arrows, anymore. But we use other strengths to conquer those who you dislike. Enemy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=582.0,792.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular seminar that I come up with this particular theme, I thought would be very helpful to long-term students, \"old students\" as we say, as well as younger students. The idea of challenge, and arrogant, where that we could-- actually we think that the old technique, animal technique, of growling at somebody, and puffing up our furs on our back, and showing our teeth [laughter] and our claws, will conquer. Or, at least subside what we don't want to see, and hopefully the enemy will back off. But on the other hand, that they have their identical possibilities too, so then there is fight. There is confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=792.0,894.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the one hand it is very elementary level. So elementary that it is animal instinct level. But on the other hand, it is very profound, that the basic root of ignorant can be founded by realizing them, and enlightenment can come about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=894.0,937.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, tonight is skandha-mara. Which comes with a general notion of realizing that \"I\" and \"other\"-- sorry, \"I\" is created. You can scratch the first one. \"I\" is created, because \"I\" -- meaning because there is some pleasure to be \"me\". Finally it's \"me\". \"How delightful, to be me.\" [Laughter] Is the devaputra-mara, which literally means, \"son of god,\" or \"child of god.\" That \"god\" this case is idea of \"realm of god\" -- heaven, happiness, abundance, welfare and ideal, acknowledgment, prince or princess -- \"I\". When we talk about klesha-mara, then it is question of mindfulness and awareness is not needed, you can simply just go free. And freedom to have a good time. Either take the attitude of spirituality, as your cause, or just ordinary, regular concept of conferring oneself to further kleshas, and enjoying oneself, hopefully enjoying, but the same time there is always pain goes along with it, but nonetheless that supposedly from superficial point of view, as you have heard, last night, the six types of klesha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=937.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Klesha\" is a Sanskrit word. And Tibetan word for that, \"nyonmong,\" which spells n-y-o-m-o-n-g [sic]. Which literally means, from the dictionary's point of view, could be said as \"obstacle\", or \"defilement.\" But actually that means simply that when you experience you and your world, you would first feel how to relate with it, and then one comes to some conclusions, as to, that only way to relate with defilements in your part, and working with the world at large around you, is to either invite them, or reject them. And we come to a lot of smart styles of doing that. And sometimes what we do is we invite them, enjoy them, and then reject them. [laughter] And the other one is we reject them first, then invite them. Which is not really new idea here. As you know, lot of you have been living in the cities and having had somehow-- somewhat good time, nonetheless. Sleeping in a tent here tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1170.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The main point is, where it becomes actual point of idea, \"mara\" is that we being constantly involved ourselves to either subtle or-- a very subtle, or blatant level. That we being trying to avoid potential gigantic depression. \"Mara\", as I said already, means \"death\". Well everybody's trying to avoid death, in one point or another. So we could say that, why do we have to discuss this here? Are we having ITS here in the conference of security measure, and how to drive carefully so you don't get killed, and how to take your food properly, so you don't get killed? And we are not talking in those terms. But not get killed, in another sense, is that mara, m-a-r-a, mara, is very profound, and extremely deep. It kills possibilities of being *alive*. That is to say, it kills possibilities of *asleep*, falling asleep even. And then you go on; it kills the possibilities of *waking up* from sleep, so waking up is enlightenment. So it kills the possibilities of the possibilities. So that's why mara is so powerful, and so necessary for us to know. So it's kills possibilities of the possibilities. And it is not just inconsequential, problematic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1347.0,1553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And out of that, it-- the skandha situations comes, as you know, form comes from psychological state of being, of who we are, coming from discursive thoughts. And thinking of acknowledging ourselves as human being; form. \"Form\" in Tibetan is \"zuk\", which is spelled z-u-k, which literally means \"destroyable.\" Form, we begin to defined ourselves as individual. \"Joan\" and \"Mary,\" \"John\" and \"Jack\" -- interesting people. They are individuals. Sometimes they are kind, and sometimes they are nasty to us. But when we look at ourselves, \"I\" begin to stuck with myself, always. The \"me-ness,\" apart from Joan and Jack -- we cannot get rid of it. That's stronghold of mara to coming to-- makes us basically vulnerable. The first skandha of form is sense of existence, and from that existence we begin to find ourselves, that because of our existence we begin to find ourselves maintain that-- in order to maintain that we find ourselves quite vulnerable, physically, environmentally, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1553.0,1737.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then out of that, comes next skandha, which is perception-- no sorry, which is \"feeling.\" Feeling of good and bad. When we have our own existence going then we begin to find that what is good, what is bad, outside of our existence. Pleasurable or unpleasurable and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1737.0,1786.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after that comes \"perception,\" where what we perceived out of having form, and having feelings, how do we gather together them, so that we can actually have a joined force, to relate with reality coming outside. Relating with them. Perception is some-- having some kind of *per*-ception, is the gathering of good and bad, and having solid existence, are put together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1786.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next one is \"formation\", as we usually have a different term these days, but we decide use that term \"formation\". Which literally means formation -- that even gathering all those things that needs editor, or director, so run our lives by ourselves, that way. So we have a commander in chief in our life, which is number fourth. Who runs the rest of the previous skandhas altogether, so we could be ego. We could have ego. We could maintain our egohood, ego-ness, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1846.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that is \"consciousness\" -- is somewhat misused in that form, is that previous discussions on the kleshas. And consciousness meaning, here, of how we could experience, could perceive red, yellow, black, green. Having had that much individual work on ourselves to build ourselves up, from the level of form, feeling, perception, formation, and now, hopefully, we will be able to operate, and able to work with others, which begin to link with the notion of what is known as discursive thoughts, and what is known as arrogant, and [UNCLEAR: selfishness?]. Individualities of any kind can be included in that fifth skandha. That's the work of mara, in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=1908.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the work of mara is not necessarily foreign to us, particularly. We shouldn't regard work of mara is that you being suddenly possessed by devil, and you begin to speak in tongues, and you begin to do funny things. But we are, in the some sense, bit strange. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2009.0,2051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Overcoming such possibilities, that we have to cut the roots being, starting with the basic shamatha level, overcoming devaputra, \"son of god.\" And overcoming feeling that we described, and perception, and formation, and consciousness. And technique is being purely, whatever we see is, basically we don't have to proclaim ourselves, as who we are, what we are anymore. And we could just *be*, very simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2051.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The wisdoms that go with those, the form, the skandha of form, could be seen as instead of form, spaciousness. Space where there is no need for \"I\" and \"other\". And feeling could be related as richness, that we no longer have poverty-ness of anything, that we do not look for pleasure, or sometimes people look for pain. And perception could be also clearer, much clearer. Discrimination. Discrimination here doesn't mean rejecting or accepting, but discrimination of which directions to go. Sense of clear sight. Which purely comes from joy. Which is free from \"I am,\" right at the beginning. When we start at that level, your depression begins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2133.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the formation of skandha, skandha of formation is purely transforming that speed and neurosis into nonaggression. Directly. Very literally, very simply. And consciousness can be transformed into some sense of there is continual brightness, and lightness. Luminosity, all the time, which accommodates everything. So that traditional term is transforming phenomena, transforming the phenomena into wisdom. That's basic term. And that's how to overcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2238.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the main point seem to be is that two-fold, altogether two-fold. That one is sense of individuality. And glorifying oneself doesn't seem to work, therefore there is shunyata. That your state of mind it could be vacant, at least vacant, open. The second one is sense of brilliantness, that phenomenal world is astounding. And lot of pain and pleasure obviously happens round our world, and people suffer, and people have pleasure. But at the same time the life at large could be seen as way to transform those energies into reality. That reality is not belong to anybody. Open.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2338.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Sir, in your description of mara, you talk enormously about death. And yet I understand the maras are traditionally seen to be seductive. I wonder if you could talk about the seduction of death.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that it's two types of seductions. One for the practitioner, other for the rest of the world. For the practitioner is when practitioner practices, thoroughly and meditates properly and they begin to see their only shortcoming and there's no way out. And they commit suicide. Which is another kind of death. The other one is very natural. That they're destroying themselves in any case, like the production of Coca-Cola, or whatever you might be saying; you know, there is a pleasure, which kills itself automatically. Which is very natural, that the greatest pleasure would have greatest death possibilities. And that's very natural. And seem to be we'd understand that much this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well when a practitioner is seduced by the maras, it's-- is there a funny twist in that, then? On the one hand, the kind of death which is suicide that you're talking about, is quite positive. So what is the seduction for the practitioner of the maras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sometimes often practitioners do feel, that wish they don't have to go through that. As well at the same time, and occasional practitioners we find that quitting altogether, and getting into another way of salvation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2449.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Back there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sir, in the fifth skandha, transform phenomena into wisdom, is this in relation to what we've talked about tonight, and last night, at the turning point of perceiving phenomena, not turning into solidification or extension of ego but actually turning it into, or allowing it to remain as it is, and that itself being the wisdom that you're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I think so. I think you understand what we are saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Congratulations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2613.0,2652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman here?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sir, there seems to be a-- to me, to be a redundancy between the first two maras, devaputra-mara and klesha-mara, and the first two skandhas of skandha-mara. They seem to be repetitive, talking about the same kind of thing. Could you say some more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could say that gunpowder is redundance. Redundance, if you going to explode something, right? Gunpowder? But you always need a fuse, which is something is like the bulk of the gunpowder you have; you need, traditionally what sometimes people, if they don't have ready made fuse they grind down the existing gunpowder and make into more refined one. So that that will go \"boom\", and begin to make connections with the bigger grains, which is actually gunpowder themselves. So it's saying the same thing. The devaputra is the like the fuse. Gunpowder is being powdered, more refined level. And the next one is actually, it does connect, and actually does work. And it's the question of same as kindling fire, you know, you need smaller twigs to begin with. And sticks. So that the fire can catch. So the big logs are waiting behind the twigs to catch. So it-- the devaputra is the reception party, rather than the [UNCLEAR: hot coal? hardcore?] maras, of such. So that how they work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is the development a teaching technique, or is there an actual redundancy in experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there is redundancy in the actual experiences, with people. First they get to the lighter ones, and then people get into much more heavier. So you can see that's happening, with your children. And seeing how process goes. The temptation at the beginning is very light. And almost harmless, seemingly. And then, when you get into that, you go beyond that. And it begin to become full-time at the end.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So it's a matter of addiction, almost.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. That's right, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Okay, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2652.0,2907.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lady over there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Good evening Rinpoche. I've been a student of yours for a very long time. And I have been practicing for a long time, and a lot. And I guess I just want to say that I'm really discouraged. Because the seduction of my own ego seems overwhelming. And that the more I practice, the more I just see how much I just relate everything to myself. And I just don't really know what to do with it-- about it anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Well, I don't think there's any particular problem, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You always say that. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This time, I could say we could give you further hard time [laughs] than you have had. And then you will find out. And we'll do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay. Thank you very much. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=2907.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yes, sir. I was struck by the fact that you describe the first skandha as being arising out of a state of-- a psychological state of mind. Out of discursive mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The first one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Which is an idea, I don't think I've heard it that way before. The thing that confuses me is that you say that the Tibetan word \"zuk\" means \"destroyable\". So it seems like it could be any kind of a being, or anything that we could label.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: We could say-- I mean we could say a mountain is destroyable, ultimately--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --because it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --erodes. How could we say that that is created out of a state of mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's way things go. [Laughter; SPEAKER6 laughs] More than how can we do it. And if you have a great inspiration to create tremendous winter in the middle of Indian summer, you can't do it. At least outdoors. You could do it in hotel rooms, or... [laughter]. That's how it goes. [Laughter] Things are very natural in their own ways. And it is somewhat psychological. But at the same time, because of that, it becomes real, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is it psychological just in the sense that we're defining it as a particular object?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because we are referring as a \"return\". \"Return\" meaning, when you put out something, how does it come back to you? It's question of, like dealing with American Indians. If you send word to the chief, then you wait, and what the chief had to say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughing] I don't think I understand it at all now. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's very simple. What's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I guess I'm trying to isolate what the process of the skandhas is. This isn't quite the way I was originally putting the question, but I've always sort of thought of it as building blocks, one on top of the other, where you sort of had-- at the most primordial level you just had...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --this and that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, that's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You know, rocks and background and all--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --that kind of stuff.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: At the most sophisticated level you have the human mind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --coming up with discursive--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah that's true. But at the same time, that cannot happen if you don't relate with \"other\" what happened. That's what we are talking about. And *you* have things going, in your own way. But you have-- *because* of you are going through a process, or state of mind, then that is a fact, on the others, at the same time. So the idea is that, how snow is deep. Not so much by how much you walk on them, but how deep your footprints were: you have to look behind you, at the same time. [laughter] That how it goes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=3016.0,3295.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Sir, I believe you said that mara is constant involvement to avoid gigantic depression. I was just wondering, how real is that depression, or what is that gigantic depression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, your depression is as good as mine. [laughter] It's same message as how horny you are, as much as I am. [Laughter] And the reality. And I don't think we can particularly measure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well why is it depressing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, usually it's death. Which is mara strikes one, it's death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So in terms of being seduced by mara, that would be our approach to that experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then you are seduced to cut down, or stop any vision, and not having any form of dignity, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That same quality of sensing some great death, or depression, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --fear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why we been talking about, yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why we're talking about, yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Only becau-- are you saying only because we do try to avoid it, that's why it's so...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, rest of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Otherwise it would be vision? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --rest of the world has it. Rest of the world has it. And lot of us have them too. It's not necessarily all that problematic, particularly but we happens to pick up this topic, to realize that that subtle depressions, or greater depressions, are not longer-- no longer regarded as problematic, that's part of the path. Conquering the mara.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. Makes sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=3295.0,3515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Can I ask one more question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, indeed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Thank you. In terms of... well I'm wondering, how do you recognize a sense of transforming, in terms of like this gentlemen said about just letting things be as they are, is transforming them? How do you recognize when you're being sane as opposed to ignorant? Or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a question of actually practicality. One has to work. One has to do it not from a purely sitting meditation, and you suddenly have \"ding dong, EVAM calling.\" [Laughter] But it's question of one's livelihood, and one's state of mind in dealing with the other. So, basically, in our teachings, that it is dealing with the others, very important, helping others are very important, and working with others are crucial. And you get your messages as soon as you step out of \"you\". Naturally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You get your messages?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you're wakeful enough, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You get your messages when you-- when you're doing it wrong or-- and right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, both. And messages of you're doing wrong, or right, yes. Yes. Very much so. And the results come very fast.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=3515.0,3658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73439/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Think we have to end this point.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=3658.0,3665.78938"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19810829VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar entitled","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=0.35,4.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conquering the Four Maras,\nnumber two,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=4.9,6.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at the Rocky Mountain\nDharma Center in Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=6.77,9.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number four,\nAugust 29, 1981.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=9.63,14.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made March, 2008.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=14.46,20.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good morning,\nladies and gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=20.31,24.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In particularly, this connection\nwith this ceremony,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=24.91,29.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all this ITS,\nwe'll say \"morning\", always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=29.34,39.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is the growing\nand developing stage,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=39.48,49.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where things are morning stage,\nof maybe dawn,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=49.91,58.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maybe sunrise, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=58.27,66.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have heard already\nthe fundraising activities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=66.62,77.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that is also connected\nwith how we make\nthe morning sunrise possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=77.3,88.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rather than finding shelter,\nwhen sun sets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=88.99,100.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With the same vision,\nthe tonight's talk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=100.53,108.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a continuity\nof previous talk,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=108.46,113.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of my Regent gave you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=113.75,118.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we are talking tonight\non the third mara, klesha-mara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=118.24,130.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wonder what was\nthe first 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[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=145.7,146.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Second one is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=146.96,150.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Klesha-mara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=153.56,156.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This is slightly\ngetting out of the ordinary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=156.82,163.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe one of the students\ncan say few words\non the two maras,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=163.65,175.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before we proceed further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=175.2,180.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any volunteers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=180.09,183.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=192.19,195.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right.\nMicrophone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=204.38,211.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you say something\nabout the devaputra-mara?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=214.83,219.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Thank you, Rinpoche.\nThis terrifies me, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=219.95,223.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no...\nYeah. 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Somebody help me\nwith the other one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783#t=432.16,440.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/139249/file/258783/transcript/73440/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Pride. 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