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Explains how precision in the practice of shamatha-vipashyana meditation eventually leads to a stage of realization known as shunyata. Eloquently describes the shunyata experience of surrendering ourselves completely to open space, where the labels of “good” and “bad” do not apply because we are no longer trying to suppress what we perceive as “bad” nor achieve what we perceive as “good.” Through a riveting back-and-forth discussion, Rinpoche pushes students to consider what lingers when we go beyond these labels. Also includes a group discussion of a homework question from a previous class: “What is the origin of desire?”\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 17 2018 to Jan 19 2020 Transcribing: Matilda Perks Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz, Matilda Perks Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFascinating lecture and group discussion on shunyata (emptiness). Explains how precision in the practice of shamatha-vipashyana meditation eventually leads to a stage of realization known as shunyata. Eloquently describes the shunyata experience of surrendering ourselves completely to open space, where the labels of \u0026ldquo;good\u0026rdquo; and \u0026ldquo;bad\u0026rdquo; do not apply because we are no longer trying to suppress what we perceive as \u0026ldquo;bad\u0026rdquo; nor achieve what we perceive as \u0026ldquo;good.\u0026rdquo; Through a riveting back-and-forth discussion, Rinpoche pushes students to consider what lingers when we go beyond these labels. Also includes a group discussion of a homework question from a previous class: \u0026ldquo;What is the origin of desire?\u0026rdquo;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/545/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344565","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-fmn0j.mpga"]},"duration":2839.06606,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/545/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344565","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/545/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-fmn0j.mpga?1759343343","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2839.06606,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710225VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710225VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - 1971 Course - Class 5]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes 1971. This will be Talk Five held February 25th. This is an ARP digital remaster made January 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: OPENING DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think some discussion before we start talk would be good. Either related to what we were discussing last time, or related to this particular moment, would be helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=19.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What is the nature of creativity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's creativity... [laughs]. Well, it seems it takes different forms. But basic point is that situation as it is, of our life situation, is not regarded as something foreign element anymore. It's something part of our own expansion. And accordant with that, depends on that situation, then things just happen; but one cannot avoid it at all. Situations just automatically develop, accordant with that. As long as one's taking interest in the life situation, as long as one's open towards it then somehow a working process accordant with that just automatically takes place. It's like, you may drive according to the condition of road -- whether road is icy, or straight highway, or winding mountain path. Accordant with that you create your-- you develop your creativity according to that. Which it seems extremely very much depend on the situation of life as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=40.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We left one question last time?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that what was? Can anybody answer that question for me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The question is, \"What is the origin of desire?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Of what? Of what? Desire? Desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The origin of desire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any answers? I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If you want a desire, it's for yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the origin of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would it spring out of your ego? Would it spring out of your-- a manifest-- it was like desire would be like a wanting to have your existence manifest?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, but why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=150.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do you want have something on your side? Why do you want to possess? Why do you want to grasp and cultivate desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Because of your uncertainty of... because of your uncertainty of your own existence possibly? Because of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Because of the confused state of your mind possibly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But why particularly mechanism of desire as such? Why not hatred? Why not pride? Why particularly desire is functional thing, the first mechanism? Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Possibly desires follow feelings, and feelings begin after you're born. You become aware of feelings--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --and feelings start this chain reaction of desire, because you're trying to always recreate feelings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=222.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine, but why they should be \"feeling\" at all? Why feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Feelings-- feeling occurs after you're born. Before you're born like, everything is in unity. And after you're born, like you become subject to this, to the feelings. The feelings of the air around you, to the feelings of being hungry. Because you get hungry, rather than you're not fulfilled all the time. Like when you're in your womb, everything is in a state of equilibrium and fulfillment. And then coming out into the world that state of fulfillment is ended.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, subject what we are talking not necessarily one's state of womb, but state of everyday life situation as well. Because we cannot particularly reconcile, in a sense, that embryonic situation of your life is not necessarily awakened one, enlightened one. Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=290.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So why there should be feelings in everyday life, in terms our own experiences? Why feeling should bring desire? Why feeling? Why should we feel? What's the opposite of it? Do you see what I mean? Just imagine what would happen if we just be without trying to feel. What would be the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Possibly, well, the opposite of feeling would be non-feeling, and if you didn't feel maybe you wouldn't be able to, I don't know, you wouldn't be able to recognize the duality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If you couldn't feel it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. But why feeling reinforces duality? It's very simple. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [UNCLEAR: It's the messiest part?] [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If there's feeling, there has to be a feeler.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well. But why there should be feeling anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] I don't have an answer for that. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well we just talked about this, and, like desire comes out of fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. What kind of fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: These fears that we have inside of us. Like we create all this, everything [INAUDIBLE] you know, like pressures and everything. Everything is just created by us and we're not really-- and we just have these fears.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fears of what? Can you particularly give examples?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Like fears of somebody-- like fears of losing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah. Mhmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=364.0,512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Could it be that we're ultimately afraid that we don't exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why is that fearful? Why are we afraid of that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why are we afraid [INAUDIBLE WORDS] fearful about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we want to *be*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why do we want to *be*? That's what I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we would like to enjoy our life. There would be-- we like to have some occupation. Because we would like to prove ourselves as \"entity.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's a basic split, of faint understanding of \"you\", and something else. Once there's a split, then automatically you would like to follow that lead, and you want to establish some kind of basic security policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=512.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But, ultimately, when you go back and back and back and say, \"Why is there a split?\" etcetera, etcetera, aren't you still going to ultimately have to say, like you said in another discussion, \"It's a mystery\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But what we're trying to work out is fear and feeling and desire. And I think the question is already answered. That fear comes out of paranoia. Extremely paranoid. Because of it that we would like to grasp something, nearest cliff grass that we could get hold of, just purely trying to retain ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is a practice of contemplation which developed in Japanese tradition, in which that person would visualize that he's be chased out, somebody's chasing with him with sword. He run out. And he runs, he runs, finally he find this cliff. And he decide to jump down, but he doesn't want to commit suicide. And he's trying to swing his arm back and he holds the-- he helds this bunch of grass. Then there would be a white mouse, red mouse, coming alternatingly. And one mouse trying to eat one grass, another one, black one, comes and trying to eat one grass. Finally, that you would end up with the one stalk of grass which is suspending your life, in this cliff. And that's-- that's kind of analogy. That we run out, we try to run and secure ourselves, and finally we try to hold onto something. But each time disappointment and not able to see the situations clearly, that situation and time just eats up all these securities. Which is imaginary security, just holds back. But finally doesn't able to hold back completely at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's so much security that involved with us all the time. And trying to *survive* is one of the basic problems. Which automatically means that in order to survive you must learn how to be responsible to ourselves, which is euphemism. Once we try to be responsible to ourselves that means we have to involve ourselves into insurance policy, get secure job, and all the rest of it. Things built up on and on and on. Which is very crude example, but in a subtle sense it goes on all the time. Which encourage us to have desire to-- encourage us to have self-respect, which literally means desire, and building up yourself. So yourself could exist with some kind of feedback on the coming from purely product of collection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=571.0,799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perhaps we should continue with our discussion afterwards. And perhaps, I thought, since I have already discussed principle of shunyata last time, that perhaps we should go over it again, discussing it. That basically, you remember the previous session, that we talked about a mindfulness and awareness meditation practice. Which is precisely trying to be aware of each situation of your lifestyle, terms of being aware of breathing, terms of being aware of every step walking. Trying to feel the precision of situation as it is, completely and definitely. So that that process helps us to develop our insight. To see the simplicity of life, in order to get beyond the wavy lines of neurotic thoughts and tendency of all kind, get beyond that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=799.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by that particular training and practice of meditation, of being careful and specific in terms of mindfulness, we may be able to get to some stage of realization. But at the same time, we may be able to deal with neurotic, discursive, grasshopper-like thoughts. But still we haven't able to come to the grip of core of the matter of the whole thing. That's what is necessary to develop shunyata principle. \"Shunyata\", which Sanskrit word means \"empty,\" literally mean is-- means \"empty\" or \"nothingness.\" But this case, \"empty\" in a sense of, if you've been practicing rigid and faithful meditation in terms of getting beyond discursive thoughts, then there still would be some basic creator of these discursive thoughts still remain, intact. So the only way to deal with is just to try to throw the whole thing overboard. Because if you trying to be specific and rigid terms of achieving non-reacting and non-discursive thoughts, then there would be some direction is involved. The teachings of shunyata is just throw whole thing of carefulness overboard. Surrender yourself to the open space. Trying doesn't play important part, not trying doesn't play important part. Why don't we give up the whole thing then? \"Good\" doesn't play important part, \"bad\" doesn't play important part. Giving up the whole thing. Surrendering, throwing whole thing into nothingness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=887.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That kind of throwing everything overboard is shunyata, or negation. Which is not as simple-minded as we discussed, as you might think. It isn't just purely giving up the whole thing *alone*. And when doing this case of giving up and surrendering means that giving up basic fundamental notion of \"good\" and \"bad\". The \"good\" doesn't apply, because we're not trying to suppress \"bad,\" specifically. And \"bad\" doesn't apply in this case particularly, because we are not trying to achieve \"goodness,\" as such. What we are trying to achieve is something that lingers both over good and bad. And what is that? What lingers both good and bad? What makes the good \"good\" and bad \"bad\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1011.0,1085.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you think any answers? What makes good \"good\" and bad \"bad\"? Any suggestions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Words?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well, but what's beyond that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Subjective-ness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Where subjectiveness come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Sense of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not as quick as that. [Laughs; laughter]. Why good is \"good?\" Why bad is \"bad?\" I mean that's simple logic, isn't it? What makes good \"good?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It's how you perceive it. Like one person [INAUDIBLE WORDS] and the other person would think it's bad, so it's inside of you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But the perceiving situation must come from some notion of some particular thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Out of your past experiences?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, alone. I mean it *is* part of it, but what's core of that? What's the heart of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Connection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1085.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Look, if you're going to buy piece of glass, piece of crystal. And somebody next to us going to buy piece of diamond, what of our attitude towards it? What would we feel?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: This person who's buying a diamond is buying something better.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I guess it all depends on what we've been taught to think is [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, but what was that? What's that thought it come from, and what you call it? We won't have a-- we won't find a particular word for it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But something more definite than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: If it makes your existence comfortable or self-satisfying--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but where that come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Aren’t things that are bad ultimately something that threatens our sense of existence, in the same thing you were talking about before?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Not at all in fact. Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Does it depend on the degree of satisfaction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1164.0,1274.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I would be tempted to say that the notion of good and bad comes from sorts of utilitarianism. We divide those things which are for a certain thing and against a certain thing, [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. And it could mean anything, you know. You can--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be. But what's the basic term or word for it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is it education?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Could be; obviously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Jurisprudence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Attachment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Attachment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Attachment?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Judgement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Judgement, sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Mindfulness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wouldn't say, exactly. Yes, Karl?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Is it duality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yes. But there's something more than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Conditioning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is quite close [laughter] but we haven't gotten it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Comparison?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Identification?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Conceptualization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Discrimination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Discrimination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's the same as duality. That's the whole, whole heart of shunyata. And we must find, at least a word for it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Could you ask the question again? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1274.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole point is that there is, what \"good\" makes good, \"bad\" makes bad? I should simplify my answer-- my question. Why good \"good\"? Why bad \"bad\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Pleasure and pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite so. [Laughter] Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Hallucination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hallucination. Quite so. I mean not-- nothing idealistic as that, actually. Something very factual, simple. *Really* simple answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Ignorance?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Nothing? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's quotation. Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be. Could be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Rinpoche, you know the answer! [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]. How many letters? [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] .\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: You're asking the questions and you know the answers, right? Tell us...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because I want you to take part in this. [Laughter] That's the whole point. Come on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Achievement, or a lack of achievement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's bit too... energetic, I would say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Did you ask what makes good \"good\" and what makes bad \"bad?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's what I ask.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: Is this a koan?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: Is this a koan?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wouldn't go as far as that. I wouldn't be too mysterious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Could you say \"goal\"? That which aids towards a goal is good, and that which detracts from it is bad?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's well put, but I don't think that, particularly. It's a bit too philosophical, shall we say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Human-ness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But what's makes good good and bad bad in human situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Desire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Sighs] Well, come on [laughs; laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1394.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Let me say-- thank you. Let me say that you see things good and you see things bad, and there's a barrier. Something makes barrier. If you see a diamond, you don't see *real* quality of diamond quality. And if you see crystal ball, you don't see as it is. But at same time, it's part of noticing as it is, we tend to put words into it You'll ask somebody, \"What's that? What's that thing?\" You says, \"It's a diamond.\" \"Oh,\" you say. \"Oh, that's crystal ball. That's crystal ball.\" \"Oh.\" And we just accept that. Why then good is good and bad is bad? Why it is expensive? Why the other one’s cheap?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Preconception.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Measurement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, preconception, yeah, of course, yes. But what kind of preconception?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: What kind of preconception? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say it's time and space, yes. I mean, we can't operate without time and space in terms of duality. That's the automatic thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: It's just the projection of mind. It's what you call it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It *is*. It *is*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1566.0,1649.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, it is name. But why name? Why should there be name? You have a different attitude if you said \"this is scotch\" and if \"this is water.\" You have completely different attitude. Why? Why that come from? Where that come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Learning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Learning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Learning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean learning? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Well, it sounds like you're getting back to what you said up there. That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: I mean, the reason you put a name and form on-- a name on a form is so that you can identify it. Which is a kind of protective mechanism to set up the relationship between it and you. You know, you can--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: --determine whether it's going to be harmful or it's going to be enjoyable or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1649.0,1697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what's that thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: What is what thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's that thing, whether it's harmful or beneficial? I mean, that's the whole thing of shunyata, why we can't experience shunyata properly. The empty space as thing-ness of situations, thing-ness of tree, thing-ness of flower, thing-ness of you and me. That's the mask which makes tremendous barrier between \"that\" and \"you.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Interpretation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be said. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Does it have anything to do with things that are--that we consider good, take more effort, or they're more rare? That they seem to be-- gain for more of a struggle? Something that has struggled for survival or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, of course. I'm sure. We have to spend so much energy, make so much money to buy little piece of diamond. But we don't have to spend so much energy and time to buy little piece of crystal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: Could it be that good is perfection, and bad is imperfection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, good is good. Monetary system or, or-- what you call... it could be object of art which is beautiful, aesthetically beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: They're always related to something related back.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course. Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: Related to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER52: Well, something can be good from one standpoint of view, and can be bad from another standpoint of view. So, perhaps we can then consider the possibility that it is his whole idea of \"standpoint of view\" and then the \"I-ness\" [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well that's been already accepted. That's why we simply call it \"term\" or \"name\". Rather than we just we'll think in terms of the whole validity of it. It's extremely simple one. [Laughter] Just one word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER53: Dissatisfaction? Thought? Speed? [laughter] Acid? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why diamond is heavier than crystal?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: Measurement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: It weighs more. Its basic form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why you spend one money, lot of money? Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: Value? Evaluation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly. You got it. [Laughter; laughs] Evaluating. Valuation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: How is this supposed to be [INAUDIBLE WORDS]? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Evaluation. Exactly. Evaluation. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1697.0,1933.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you see-- the whole point is that there's no evaluation on things as they are. If you see things beyond evaluation, then you don't put heavy trips on one thing and easier to another one, do we? We just see things as it is. That's what shunyata is being born from, absence of evaluation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1933.0,1966.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having taken away the valuation, then you begin to feel tremendous space between \"that\" and \"you\". Because you don't relate especially-- concentrate your energy to one thing and not concentrate on one thing. Whole thing becomes a complete open space. That's also way of stepping out of psychological materialism, which is directly against in terms of understanding of shunyata emptiness experience. So in other word, if you don't put heavy trip on the experience of enlightenment and the confusion of samsara, as being one is higher and one is being lower, if you don't evaluate those terms, then somehow or other that we begin to lose the whole thing, we begin to throw the whole thing overboard. And then there would be tremendous beautiful open occasion, open situation. That such luxuries, in a sense. Situation that you don't have to anymore make... evaluate them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1966.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You don't have to anymore sort them out opposed to valuable and not valuable, and good and bad anymore. So that's the end of the whole speed that is involved in the samsaric nature. That is shunyata. With-- in other word, creating whole open space, in terms of meditation experiences as well as personal experiences. That in this point, that you don't evaluate the experience of short and narrow path. Obviously narrow path have the carefulness, or the wildness of the open path, anymore. You see things as it is, simply, directly. That's the experience of shunyata.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2049.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And perhaps I shouldn't say too much. And I'm sure you'll find similar analogies been used in the Suzuki Roshi's book. As well as there's certain things that be mentioned about nowness in my book, MEDITATION IN ACTION. If you simply try to be *there*, that very moment, and not put any particular relativity terms, evaluating of any kind. Past is past, it's gone; future has not come yet; present is *there*. Therefore just direct one's whole being is just this very moment. And you find it in a lot of songs of Milarepa, you find that. And do you remember that I mentioned another book Suzuki's-- Doctor Suzuki's book, MYSTICISM: BUDDHISM AND CHRISTIANITY [sic: MYSTICISM: CHRISTIAN AND BUDDHIST], which is really worth reading. I think in particularly for you it would be very good, because he tried bring-- or build a bridge between Western Christianity as well as Buddhism and Eastern thinking together. Which is worth reading and working-- looking into.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2109.0,2199.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when-- whatever books you read, almost I could say in terms of just general statement, that don't try to read the introductions and commentaries. It's a waste of your energy. Almost I could say without exception, just try to plunge into the heart of it, the actual books themselves. And another thing is that in this Pilgrim's Way-- WAY OF THE PILGRIMS [sic: THE WAY OF A PILGRIM] of orthodox teaching of Jesus prayer, you'll find same thing of absence of evaluation in that, as well. Because he begin to evaluate tremendously prayer is being religious act, he begin to do it constantly with such devotion and such energy. And certain stage you begin to lose this concept. And minute and moment when you lost this concept of \"good\" and \"bad,\" and \"holy\" and \"unholy,\" the prayer begin to repeat in his heart continuously, become a constant meditation experience, which is also experience of shunyata, undoubtedly. So this notion of shunyata, or the emptiness, is not particularly belong to the Buddhist bag, so to speak. It's universal thing, it's open thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd perhaps we should stop there and start having discussions if you have anything to talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2199.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER58: You said, like, last week about a politician, if he were to meditate and he would probably make a better politician. And I was wondering, without any evaluation, how do you really make-- if you're up against some sort of decision, how would you evaluate or make a distinction? Because it seems that the existence that we're in now is all-- is, you know, very value-laden. There's much, you know, \"this is good, this is bad,\" and \"this should be done to make things better,\" you know. \"If this worked well, this would be good,\" or \"life would be good.\" And [INAUDIBLE] you know, how are decisions made?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well personally now, I'm not particularly a good politician. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER58: But how would you make any sort of decisions whatsoever in your life or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But the whole thing is, you see, whole thing is that you would never make good politician if you are \"for\" and \"against.\" Then you get so emotionally involved with the side of the \"good\" and trying to defeat the \"bad\". That's makes bad politician. If you're really good diplomat, and a good politician, really true way of seeing the situation is that you are in the nonduality of the whole thing. You don't react against the \"bad\"; \"bad\" don't knock you away. And \"good\" don't you-- \"good\" doesn't particularly build you up anymore. So then you are on the even scale. And so that you could be with both \"good\" and \"bad,\" and attack, and whatever is... And the whole thing is seeing the aerial view of the whole thing. You see \"good\" is there, \"bad\" is there, and you see the whole relationship of it. As long as you are not involved in it. When we talk terms of \"good\" and \"bad\" is evaluation, that our involvement with the evaluation.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's like skilled surgeon. Generally, surgeons don't operate operations on their wife or on their child. Reason why is because they are so emotionally involved with their wife and children. This is seems to be law among to all surgeon. That they don't operate on their own kin. They only operate to neutral people. Hundreds of people come up their hospital, they operate on their-- just patients. And minute when they work and operate on, they don't emotionally involved anymore. They're completely open, neutral. That's why they make good surgeons. And if you are begin to operate on your wife, on your children, skillfully, as you been doing with the others, then it is enlightened surgeon. Same as the enlightened politician, enlightened diplomat. Once you are involved with it, that you have to become diplomatic. And trying to become one, then you may become very clumsy diplomat. But if you become completely one with whole flow of the whole thing, then you become extremely good diplomat. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2298.0,2534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: Is there no such thing as quality, then? [INAUDIBLE WORDS] question of things having intrinsic quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, quality is a relative term. You can only compare with one lesser quality to higher quality. But at the same time you could see the quality of the \"all.\" I mean you could be taking the aerial photograph, and you don't have to use foreground of any kind. You are not standing any ground at all. This helps you to see the more of the aerial ground of the whole geography of the city plan, or whatever is may be, landscape. I mean, there is a quality in terms of as things as they *are*, but the quality doesn't mean \"for\", \"against,\" in terms of where you stand in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2534.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: Getting back to the question of the origins of the other, it seems-- the fact that it's so powerful, insatiable. Can it be the expression of one's intelligence, one's understanding all the time, of what's actually the case? [INAUDIBLE] of never being satisfied as long as one is in this limited framework. So that one is driven continually, continually, continually. As long as [INAUDIBLE]. So that, in that case, it would be an expression of intelligence rather than [delusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Expression of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: Intelligence [INAUDIBLE] basic understanding of how things really are, dissatisfaction of the whole ignorant trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is doing by intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: Yes. As soon as one's [INAUDIBLE] as soon as [INAUDIBLE] this ignorance [INAUDIBLE] desire from [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: As an expression, like we've really known all along. What it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: --really is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: And so we're continually trying to break out of [INAUDIBLE] and we'll never be satisfied, ever--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: --so there is [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's why the birth of nirvana could be only given by birth of samsara. That's why whole thing's extremely hopeful, and positive. If there isn't confusion, there wouldn't be liberation, because the whole notion doesn't exist anymore if there isn't confusion. Which is very powerful thinking, powerful logic, so to speak. So we should be grateful of being confused. I mean, that's why there is so many people take interest more in the area where people so confused take more interest in wisdom. And very area where people less confused take less interest in the wisdom. They are on the way to the daughters of mara-- seduction of daughters of mara, because they're less confused. Where areas more confused, they're begin to irritated by the daughters of mara's seduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=2617.0,2771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84996/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we had been extremely good meeting point. And please try to read the books that we've been talking about. And if you have any questions, and you don't have to be particularly polite, at all. If you have any particular critical questions, or aggressive ones for that matter, which is much better, we could work together. Then you could share your aggressive with everybody-- aggression with everybody. Which is good, would be benefit of the whole class. So we hope that we have good creative process next time. And perhaps we should end our session there today.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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You can--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1289.79,1295.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be.\nBut what's the basic term\nor word for it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1295.77,1304.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: Is it 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Discrimination?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1363.72,1364.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1364.94,1367.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's\nthe same as 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Illusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1414.52,1415.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1415.73,1416.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER29: Illusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1416.93,1420.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite so.\n[Laughter] Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1420.03,1423.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER30: Hallucination?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1423.88,1425.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hallucination.\nQuite so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1425.09,1429.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean not-- nothing idealistic\nas that, 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us...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1478.08,1479.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because I want\nyou to take part in this.\n[Laughter]\nThat's the whole point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1479.29,1486.176"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Come 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\"goal\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1517.8,1520.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That which aids towards\na goal is good,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1520.14,1521.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that which detracts\nfrom it is 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Why that come from?\nWhere that come from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1661.78,1665.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER45: Learning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1665.53,1666.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1666.81,1668.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER45: Learning.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\nSPEAKER45: Learning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1668.8,1671.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You\nmean learning?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545#t=1671.1,1680.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161696/file/293545/transcript/84997/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER46: Well, it sounds like\nyou're getting back to what\nyou said up there. 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