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Bardo as expression of suspension between one experience and another, an in-between moment of no-man’s-land. Detailed description of each of bardos and how one leads to another. Individual bardo states and the progression through cycles of birth and death described as opportunities for both confusion and awakening."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part 2, Chapter 7: The Sequence of Bardos\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 24 2023 to Feb 13 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the Six Realms of Being, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number seven, Conclusion, held January 1st, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made July 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the six realms of being, Tail of the Tiger, December 1971, seventh talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Audio starts mid-sentence]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --conclusions. It seems there is hardly any need for that [laughter] since we already come to some conclusions of our familiar homes, the six types of realms and style of bardo experiences with that. But the basic idea of six types of bardo experience connected with six realms, maybe you could say that's conclusion, in this case. There is the \"sidpa bardo\", which is the \"bardo of existence\" or \"becoming\", rather, which stems from current situations have been manipulated by extreme hope and fear or what have you. So that birth of each realm is given by a sidpa bardo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=34.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that, because of the birth has been given, that also brings another situation of birth, \"kye-ne bardo\", which is \"birth in connected with manifesting those becoming process\". Like, in this case, becoming is more of force or energy. But that energy have to materialize its function into some particular context, some particular situations, so you have kye-ne bardo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=137.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the birth and death are connected with some circulation, that thing which relates the birth and death together. Had to be regarded as the-- birth and death situation had to be regarded as some definite event. Birth is event, as well as death is event. That event could function its own nature. The continuity between the birth and death is largely survival process. With what? That thing which builds bridge between birth and death is struggle for survival. And the struggle for survival is based on administration of maintenance, its solid characteristics, whatever have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=191.0,285.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the maintenance is not necessarily that of physical maintenance at all. If you want to maintain yourself, you have to have the politics or the philosophy of maintenance to begin with. And philosophy and politics of maintenance introduce itself into domestic situations, which is based on past experience brings present experience, and present experience are dependent on what would be -- that's the future. So you have past-present-future dwelling process, which is the \"milam bardo\", the \"dream bardo.\" So both past and future could be said as imaginary world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=285.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in this case when we talk about dream bardo, it is not necessarily of quality of dreaming as such, but it is quality of-- it has the style of imagination, or it has the style of trying to instigate some active situations. It has the quality of constantly trying to set the wheel in motion, constant flowing. In order to set the wheel in motion, that you have to have concepts and ideas, and those concepts and ideas are purely imaginary ones. It's kind of guesswork, that sense. That trying to achieve something as you speed along, trying to destroy something as you speed along. As the-- same as analogy of a coward soldier runs away and throw rocks behind him, hoping that his enemies could be killed on the process of his escape. But no direction, but just hoping that this particular rock you throw your-- behind your shoulder, beyond you, over your shoulder would land on enemy's head. It's kind of going along, but hoping things will develop, accordance with your wishes. That's the kind of dream bardo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=365.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not so much of dreaming like in terms of dwelling on something, but it's more of imagination put into practice by another imagination. And that imagination speaks its own language, because you have created the projections. So at the end, whole solid world is built. It's like bouncing back and forward echo in a cave, that each echo throws back its sound and build up to crescendo. So dream bardo seem to be the dream of dream, that on the ground of dream, the dream bardo exists as dream situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=538.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then you have the \"death\", \"chikha bardo\". That's end of all those dreams, because expectations or possible attempt or desire to watch your own funeral party is impractical. You realize you can't take part in your funeral party or attend your funeral. Some failure of continuing the existence-- I mean realizing there is failure of continual existence, and dream begins to end, that \"I am really going to die, so I might regard myself as a dead person.\" End of the dream. Because it is end of dream, that therefore you cannot relate with the mind-body, physical situation, at all. It's just so overwhelmingly loose and unclear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=608.0,705.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So dream is end of vision, end of expectations, end of continuity-- sense of continuity. And, I mean the death is-- therefore the death becomes one of the outstanding experience of the bardo, that you can't continue anymore. And not only that, but you realize that all your games that been developed through the dream bardo hadn't been all that realistic. One begin to realize the impermanent quality of all situations. In fact, very idea of going from one experience to another experience is also seen as impermanent, is continual death process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=705.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then you have the-- because of its end of all kinds of dreams, because experience of living quality of the impermanence, the transitory nature of whole being, begin to ask questions, when the \"chonyi bardo\" begin to develop. \"Chonyi\" literally means, \"cho\" means \"dharma\", \"nyi\" means \"ness\", \"dharma-ness\", the \"isness.\" In Sanskrit, it's \"dharmata\", like shunyata. \"Shunya\" means \"empty\", \"ta\" means \"ness\", so \"emptiness.\" So \"dharmata\" means the \"dharma-ness\", the isness quality of all existence. In other word complete comprehension of process that developed through the bardo experience are based on-- experiences are based on some pattern of relating with space. Relating with space -- things cannot function or happen as it is, if you don't relate with space, so one tend to get a certain sense of spaciousness, sense of that lubrication. Lubrication could develop because of its accommodating situation. It's the awareness of when we see the space where things could function. And that lubrication of dharmata experience is what's be referred in the Evans-Wentz work as the \"clear light\", the lubrication, that accommodating, let things follow on its own accord.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=779.0,979.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that brings into next situation. Now you have experienced birth and existence and death and everything. That you have experienced the-- therefore you experience the what's called \"samten\" bardo, which is meditative state in the bardo experience. That meditative experience of bardo state is therefore based on a realization of the lubrication, realization of dharmata as object, as a particular situation, so it's self-existing. Wisdom becomes knowledge, jnana becomes prajna. That means wisdom is-- jnana, in other word, is a complete experience. And \"knowledge\" or \"prajna\" is in this case that complete experience is be perceived by criteria of some kind or by certain perspective view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=979.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The jnana is being seen as a learning process -- we studied, so that becomes-- jnana becomes prajna. Like differences between somebody's meditating and somebody's studying about the experience of meditation as a, like case history or archeological intrigue. That meditative experience of samten bardo is the microscope in which you could examine the clear light experience, samten bardo. Which is lubrication, which is also a way of accentuating the blackness-whiteness of experience which happens within that accommodating open space. So in other word, samten bardo, meditative state of bardo, is not necessarily practice of meditation in terms of traditionally being taught, but it is seeing the clarity of situations as they are, in terms of that you realize you are imprisoned in the state of a hungry ghost realm, and you begin to realize the sharp edges of the hungry ghost experiences, as well as the space where the sharp edges could exist in hungry ghost experiences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1090.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The same thing with any realms, that samten bardo is kind of a watcher, which transmits its message to the observer, opposed to the watcher, so you have a double watcher in this case. You have watcher, who is like a spokesman, who relate to situations, from one situation to another situation. And then you also have the-- that person who appoints the watcher as his occupation, his job, his duty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1229.0,1275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, you have intuitive insight, which has the ability to digest the experiences. But at the same time, in order to digest experiences, you have to point out somebody who collects your food. That which collects-- that which is collecting food is the watcher, and the food is being passed on to the central authorities, who appoint the watcher, which is kind of subtler-- extremely subtle, and almost non-watching but perceiving, entity so to speak. So you have two types of intelligence there: the crude intelligence and the subtle intelligence. Crude intelligence is watcher, the analyze-- the analyst, and the subtle form is intellectual, analytical conclusions are transformed into experiential situation, are the two types of intelligence. Which is the samten bardo experience of meditative state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1275.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that that kind of experience also lead to the inevitability, the bardo of after death, which is called \"gyulu bardo\", which means the \"bardo of illusion\", \"illusory body\", the \"body of illusions.\" Which brings us that-- to the point that, finally we are suspended in extreme our experience of life situation, of hell or hungry ghost, animal, human, whatever have you. Realize that we be suspended, that we haven't really been born, we haven't really died, we haven't really been dreaming at all. We haven't been experience the clear light either, in actual matter-of-fact or realistic way. All those situation is expressions of suspension, between one experience to another experience of extremes. The sense of suspension is seem to be-- the basic quality of bardo is that you are in a between moment of no-man's-land. I mean you are between extreme situations. You realize that that extreme situation, if you are in realm of god for instance, that you realize that there is no really occupation of maintaining yourself, but you're being-- your power is been taken over by inevitability of natural, organic, mechanical process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1396.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I suppose the conclusions that we come to the six realms is largely based on those six types of bardo experiences. Which enables us to, if we are in the realm of gods which-- or whatever other realms you have, that we will be able to relate with that those realms are not only purely suffering or purely dwelling on something, but in order to dwell you have to play games with that occupations. Like if you been born as human, that you have to grow up, and you have to have some occupation of lifestyle, and you have to feed yourself, and you have to experience old age, and you also have to experience illness and death. Like human life contains, all the life contains those growing situation. In a similar way that six realms, six types of bardo experience are the same-- have same style. That you have birth, you have death, you have suspended situations of those experiences, you have dream. You experience that your situation is-- of living is consist of both space and objects, form and emptiness, simultaneously -- or maybe side by side.\r\n\r\n\r\nI hope I haven't confused anybody [laughter] by such shocking conclusions.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a short discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1547.0,1701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, what-- to what use can we put the things that we've learned in this seminar?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think? Do you have idea?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I've been-- I thought of them very much as a-- as sort of giving a means, sort of a matrix by which we can be aware of our own patterns of behavior, become more aware the patterns that we exhibit in the way we act towards them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Well it's the same as the presentation of four noble truths. Suffering should be realized, and the origin should be overcome, and cessation should be attained, and the path should be seen as truth. Same kind of thing that-- you see, one of the problems that-- or one of necessity of hearing the teaching is that we generally tend to have a confused picture, completely unmethodical and chaotic. You can't make head or tail of it, what's happening literally, what's the process, what's the situations. But in this case that putting the confused-- confusions into a pattern, that confusions have a pattern of its confused nature. It's methodically chaotic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that seems to be the way of seeing that pattern as they are. Seems to be they are-- the necessity of learning, you begin to have some sense of geography, some sense of road map of some kind, that you can relate yourself onto such patterns. I think that seem to be-- that becomes-- that brings us more solid and confident situation, in order to relate with ourselves, so we don't have to look for-- painfully, we don't have to look for some kind of stepping-stone, but stepping-stone present itself in the living situation. That you have confident to start on the first thing that is available within your experiences, if you know the patterns or geography, the road maps of developmental, psychological structures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1701.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, it seems that it's the energy of the situation that determines the realm of existence. Is it the same order of energy that determines the bardo state that occurs?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Energy that what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is it the same-- are the same-- is it the same energy that's determining the realm, is this the same energy that's also determining the bardo state? Is it strictly a matter of the situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, yeah. I mean, the realms and both-- you see the bardo experiences are like the constituents of the realms, so they all have to function in some basic space, in some energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1916.0,1967.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Are there any bardo-- I mean are there predominant bardo experiences for each of the realms, or are they all--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we could look at from that way at all, that when we had the seminar in Colorado, that I worked on another way of looking at the whole situation, as each state of bardo is being different types of realms. But at the same time, that they all should have one experience. Like in the human realm, for instance, in our living situations as human beings, that we have the experience of all of the six happening to us all the time. In the same way that other realms could be seen in the same way as well. That there is no sort of extreme balances which relate with any particular realm necessarily. But each realm contains birth, death, and spaciousness, and watching yourself, and observing yourself, having conclusion of yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But if all the six are going on at the same time, and all the six realms are going at the same time, the question I'd like to ask is, what perceives it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the particularly one of the very important point is that if you're experiencing simultaneously six of them constantly, that reason why six of them could function simultaneously is because of these six types of bardo experience. Because the constituents, the styles always same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=1967.0,2076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the meditative state. there's two kinds of intelligence: one is crude-- more crude, like a watcher; and the other is more subtle, as you said, kind of like a perceiving kind of intelligence. And these relate things back to some kind of central kind of authority. It makes me think right away of self-consciousness. And I want to know if that feedback mechanism, or whatever it is that perceives, that makes the meditative state a realization of the clear light. Is that watching basically a healthy thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we didn't get into the situation of evaluating them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean none of the six bardo realms or six bardo states are evaluated as being unhealthy or healthy, but it just purely presented a picture as they are. So that's like a general makeup. But we are not discussing whether having head is healthy thing, or having arms is healthy thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So there's no sense to evaluate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, no, I mean that's neutral situations. And that's basically mechanical. Maybe it is misleading to call it meditation, samten bardo, as being meditative state. It isn't in the-- it is in the sense of meditation in terms of practice of meditation, in the terms of awareness or dhyana practice of any kind. It's a natural function.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it relates to-- I mean when you relate to self-consciousness, I usually have a kind of feeling that it's not such a good-- in a way it's not such a healthy thing, always to be so self-conscious. I think we want to kind of get into a more, like, of an \"is\" kind of situation where things just... I mean, it seems to be inhibiting to be self-conscious in a way, sort of had the connotation of unhealthy for self-consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see this self-consciousness we are talking about is quite different from in terms of the watcher of meditative state in the actual practice of meditation. But it is related with basic mechanism which perceives, which works out things. That which makes you aware of that you are sitting and meditating in a very, very minute and very subtle way. That you have some understanding that you are actually meditating, whether the crude self-consciousness applies or not. Even if you transcend the crude self-consciousness, still you have the sense of that you have overcome the crude self-consciousness still goes on. It's the basic perceiver.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE] always there then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always there, yes. I mean it's the mechanically necessary situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2076.0,2289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well you spoke of, at times, about stepping out of the bardo state. About the doubt being the point at which you would step out. Well, is stepping out-- are any of these six states related to stepping out? Or are you always sort of re-immersed in the bardos?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the-- all of them present-- all of them have to exist in some kind of basic space, anyway. So all of them have equal possibilities of stepping out of intense bardo experiences. I mean they do exist in a particular fashion, particular form, and these forms could exist only in relation to space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE] birth and death.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2289.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What's the space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The space is where they could accommodate the idea of basic environment where these six types of bardo could exist. I mean the very idea of existing such experience automatically brings the natural function of space where they could exist, as well at the same time without anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2341.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is that-- well, does the clear light you talked about exist in the space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Clear light seem to be-- the experience of clear light exist in the space, and when the clear light cease to become *experience*, then that itself is space. So when we talk about clear light bardo, as such, bardo clear light, then it is still bardo because it is experienced as bardo. Space has been perceived as space, seen as space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2378.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, [INAUDIBLE] bardo, [INAUDIBLE] ourselves. It would seem-- in a way, it's necessary to freeze the situation in order to see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Freeze?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, if you're going to, say, \"well here I am stuck in the realm of hell,\" you'd have to freeze in order to [INAUDIBLE] living quality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is. And, definitely, you are in some realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But can you say that? I mean can anybody who is in the realm of hell actually say they are [INAUDIBLE]? Or in any realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, definitely, yeah. That's where you are. Too bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It would seem that if they make that statement, it would make the whole thing obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somehow the statement doesn't make-- doesn't seem to be important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't mean just as words, but [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to have some intense experience going on, so you can't just miss that altogether. And that this exists very solidly, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2427.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, what's the big difference between me and a tulku?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Me and a tulku?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between you and tulku?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are one. [Laughter] \"Tulku\" means \"a person who had be reborn.\" So, \"tul\" means \"manifestation\"; \"ku\" means \"body\"; \"body manifestation.\" Everybody is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But doesn't tulku also mean phantom body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on what you mean by that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In the appendix of your book BORN IN TIBET, [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And it says it's not really the same order as the ordinary birth and death that we go through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The-- in the first paragraph you describe the birth and death process, and it says that the situation is not the same as the ordinary person's.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's, I suppose, *a* tulku opposed to *the* tulku. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Let's talk about a tulku.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's yourself. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I've had enough? [Laughter] Actually you said the Dalai Lama is supposed to be a manifestation of the bodhisattva of compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is that force operating rather than karmic force?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- I mean, those things is highly colored by the wishful thinking of the congregates. [Laughter] Because it doesn't mean to say that Dalai Lama actually is the and only tulku of Avalokiteshvara. But he has-- he possess the attribute of Avalokiteshvara. Part of his characteristic, part of his basic makeup contains that compassionate quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is that just accident, or is there a will operating that [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it seem to be both. That if you have-- if you try to create something by will, you have to use the accidents as a way of challenge yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But I think my question is like, is there a principle to say that he's identified as the bodhisattva of compassion, kind of like a Christ principle would be that type of principle, which you could roughly [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so, everybody-- each person has their own particular buddha family.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But is it a [INAUDIBLE] decision when that happens, or is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well obviously, yeah. Somebody decide to proclaim some relationship of something, that relationship to their buddha nature, that they are what they are. Somebody certainly could become even Avalokiteshvara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2503.0,2752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, would you mind [laughter] coming back to the theme of the [UNCLEAR: centerless moon?]? I'm not really clear about bardo states. Did I understand you to say that the bardo states coexist simultaneously when a realm is present, in the bardo states?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. Yeah, it's the mechanics or the functions of realms have a bardo.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Because in a moment of clear perceptivity, I can see when something is beginning to fall apart, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But I don't know if I don't see it also, when in fact, there's existing and there's dying and everything else, you know. I only see that one aspect of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So in order to exist you have to be born, you have to die, and you have to have dreams, all kinds of things, so that's what it is. And in this particular context of bardo, that it is being-- the highlights of these experience have divided into six types of particular situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So, should I really not be satisfied with my experience until I'm able to realize that these coexist, you know, that my feeling that one succeeds the other is just a partial view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, they automatically present to you, and you can't miss the-- such powerful experiences in any way. Birth and death and everything is very, very obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yes, but sequentially, not coexisting, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not necessarily. I mean they all exist simultaneously on the other hand, in some sense. That birth means death, means also dream, and also means clear light, and also meaning the bardo of meditation, same as the others. It's like things have to be-- if you made a pot, for instance, you have to have the clay, you have to have the water, you have to have the heat and everything. So simultaneously the four elements does exist in that one pot. Same kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2752.0,2897.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: The other thing is, where did these-- I'm not clear where this information about the bardos and the realms came from? Is it brought to Tibet by Padmasambhava and Tilopa? Or, you know, where did it come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to develop-- the basic idea of, historically, the Pure Land School in Tibetan Buddhism is also strong, in particular the study of death and bardo experiences--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's the devotional school, [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not in the popular sense that does exist in Japan. But it's the idea of study of your death. And Amitabha's realm has been regarded as a way of relating your after-death experience, in terms of limitless-- Amitabha is limitless light. And there is a lot of sutras of Amitabha also talks about the death experience as being connected with living experience as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nOn the top of that Pure Land School, then there is the also the tantric expositions of hallucinations and mental objects becoming overwhelm in the living situation, like the visions in the bardo experiences described in the [Tibetan] Book of the Dead. Somehow there's two teachings of Pure Land School and certain particular tantric experience of living world is be regard seeing as pattern of solid, colorful situation. And somehow there seem to be sort of amalgamation of two principles work together, and it has been presented by particularly Padmasambhava. And also it is related with the expositions of twelve nidanas, twelve causation of chain reactions, becoming of samsaric-- how the process of becoming samaric development.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it is amalgamation of-- in a sense you could say it is amalgamation of madhyam-- not madhyamaka... abhidharma experience of psychological pattern. And the mystical experience of tantric awareness of deities being seen as part of emotions, types of emotions, or types of human or ego mentalities of all kinds. And the death as being birth, or after death as being also the same thing with the living situation -- that you live in the birth-and-death process constantly. And that kind of experience of the Amitabha sutras, somehow all this amalgamation all together have developed this particular formula. Seems to be it's-- that principle was there already in the teaching when the Buddhism developed in Tibet. But it was brought forth by a teacher called Karma Lingpa, who is-- who lived around about Gampopa's time. And he introduced this particular how to relate with dying person, how to relate with the dying person in terms of a living person. And I think Karma Lingpa is probably the instigator, or the one person who brings-- brought into a living form of practice of the teachings of bardo. So time of Gampopa.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, perhaps that we should hear conclusions from the other speakers. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=2897.0,3186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Two questions. One is why do you always arrive late? Is there a reason? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I arrive late! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3186.0,3203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Secondly [laughter], whenever you make any statement, you sort of always prefix it by saying, \"it *seems* that this is so.\" But even then the-- sort of the way you say it has such an air of definiteness about it. [Laughter] I've not yet quite figured out why. But why do you use that particular prefix, or that phrase? Why do you say, \"it *seems* that this is the way is should be\" or \"it seems that [INAUDIBLE] that happened\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that [laughter] it is presented more like there is a supposition, because we can't agree on one particular thing very solidly. I mean, if there are sixty audience, they have sixty types of experiences. So you can't make definite. And again, the conclusion should come from individuals. It could be said as a possible attempt to present case, but not trying to preach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3203.0,3301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You did a beautiful seminar. To me it's been one of the most humblingest, in ways -- in a positive way, not in a terribly painful way. But before we had talked about the six realms of existence, one would tend to put oneself in one determinate state and think of all the poor people in the other. [Laughter] Now we could relate by, you know-- in this one, you know, you really see the sameness quality in all of us. You could relate to probably all the realms, with the exception of the realm of the gods perhaps relationship to, at this point. So it's been a pretty good time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I never thought of myself before--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You never thought...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I never thought of myself as either a hungry ghost or a [INAUDIBLE] until the explanation you gave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3301.0,3387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Do you think that the same ideas, or similar ideas, as those you've been elucidating during the seminar can be found in the Western tradition? And particularly do you think that recent Western psychology can throw more light on it? Is it useful to try to work the two out together?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is quite possible that these different realms have definitely psychotic qualities. Like realm of hell is claustrophobic, and asura realm could be said is schizophrenic, or the realm of gods could be said is religious maniac. [Laughter] All kinds of things seem to be said about it, and I'm sure that there's some days that would be interesting to try and work together from that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Well, but Western-- most Western psychology places a very strong emphasis on the early years of life, say from birth to the age of four or five, as opposed perhaps to an idea of karma or anything like that. And I haven't heard you talk too much about that formative period in a person's life. Is there a conflict there, would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there seem to be some problem there. Because if you purely studied the case history in terms of \"You had a case history of an unfortunate situation, therefore you experience the pain now\" -- seem to be attempt to bring psychological state into extreme scientific approach. That that seem to be the protections that they have developed, psychologically developed, in order to present scientifically -- which they don't really have to, necessarily. If they don't regard themselves in the early stage of psychological development as minorities, but they have something to say, rather than trying to fit into social setups, probably could have seen entirely differently. And generally, that kind of analysis that has been based on case history is an unhealthy situation, because you don't feel the openness and spaciousness of the present or the future. You feel you'll be trapped in it forever and there is complete hopeless situation. So I think that seem to be this conflict which is based on a past-oriented.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: But that isn't that true of karma also? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, not necessarily at all. The present situation is-- inclusive present situation is based on the past in some sense, but at the same time you are free from present situations-- I mean the past is... Present is free from past; therefore it could be present. Otherwise it continues to become the past all the time. And same as the future is independent situation. So there is a sense of freedom constantly happening. I mean you could say that you arrived, and we entered into this hall, and now we're here. That doesn't mean to say that you can't get out of it, but we decide to come here. We are not stuck in this hall. It's purely up to individuals if they decide to walk out of this hall or not. It's purely up to us. So the case history of that you are here -- either you walked or you came in a car here -- does not make any importance of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny more conclusions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3387.0,3675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well, once you've moved from one realm into the next, do we drag any of the characteristics of the old realm with us for a while? Are they still operating, even though we seem to be in a new place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We bring...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Do we bring the past with us that way? You know, [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in a sense we do and we don't. That we have habitual patterns have developed, but that habitual pattern that had developed also had to maintain itself by present situations. So it is partly interdependent with the past but it's also partly independent of the past. That all the realms could exist or function as it is in the present circumstances.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I'm talking about key characteristics.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: This quality of the same person [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can't be same person constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't become same person constantly at all. I mean you can't have a fixed situation of the realms necessarily at all. I mean even each realm-- when we're in each realm, that realm is-- has the pulsating quality. They flicker between birth, death, and other bardos constantly. So each realm is very tentative in that sense. And we do develop, in a sense, one particular heavy, strong experience, might reinforce the next experience but that doesn't have to be same realm constantly at all. It seem that the realms we are talking about is largely based on different states of emotions that coexist within our basic being. So we can't have one emotion happening constantly but emotions change. So each emotions transform themselves into-- or become themselves later as a realm. Realm in this case is not only the intensity you are in alone, but intense environment you are in as well which you-- we have created.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3675.0,3854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I have this feeling about this description of the six realms that it's very-- it's a sort of very static and neutral description. It describes a state of affairs such as you might look around you anywhere and see something and describe its characteristics. And this leaves me with a very strong feeling of \"so what?\" I mean, you know, what's-- there seems to be some kind of dynamic element missing. It's missing some sort of a sense of a key of some kind, something-- some reason why it's interesting, you know. I feel there is something just sort of static about the presentation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, do you mean in order to get out or willing to learn from it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well I mean, is there-- I mean it doesn't seem to suggest that one *could* get out or that one *should* get out, that there is anything particularly to get out of. That something-- that one thing is preferable to another. It just seems to be like walking into a room, and the room is there, and you could spend time describing its various characteristics. Or you might not bother.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well at the same time, that if you walk into a very cold room, that you can't ignore it is being cold. Whereas if next one may be extremely warm and that may be more interesting. But at the same time, you don't have to walk out of the house necessarily at all. I mean it's environmental situation. And also, many cases, that there is feeling of that you be trapped up-- trapped in that particular situation, and looking forward to some kind of change constantly happening, although there is no particular feast or celebration going on anywhere at all. It seem there is nothing to look forward to on the other hand, but at the same time, sort of want to change from hot to cold is exciting at same time. For that matter even stepping out of altogether is not particularly exciting at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3854.0,4049.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, what is mindfulness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well mindfulness, opposed to awareness, there seem to be a lot of differences. Mindfulness is simply seeing the accuracy or the precision of the moment, and you can't not help being right there. It's seeing the-- experiencing the abrupt and sharp nowness with the extreme sharp contrast, sharp edges. And mindfulness -- I mean awareness, seem to be-- seem to have the qualities of, there are lot of sharp edges, simultaneously everywhere. So you are not focusing on one item as such, but there are many items and each of them clear and precise, coexisting in one space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=4049.0,4147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Where does the idea of the watcher come in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Watcher is a kind of informer, perceives and sees and comments and make it into-- makes into a presentable concept to you. So it's constantly-- it is editing all the time. Like translator.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And that's part of ego then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=4147.0,4202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, in this is, like, a bit off the subject. In your teaching, you put a great deal of emphasis on a certain way of-- not about meditating itself, but like when you meditate, how long you meditate, where you meditate, [INAUDIBLE]. In other words, you have a certain characteristic that you said along these lines that they're basically very different from other [INAUDIBLE]. You said that the characteristics [INAUDIBLE WORDS]? And what I would like to know is, in particular, as contrasted with Zen, you're presenting a tremendous contrast in what you're doing here, and with Zen [INAUDIBLE] the external realm. But in the actual meditation, could you say something about how that compares to [INAUDIBLE], I mean the actual meditation, with Zen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditation teachings developed in Zen and presented as-- presented to the West have the-- seem to have the qualities of creating island, so to speak. That in midst of uncultured, if I may so, environment, you're trying to create another civilization or culture. Like in a chaotic city you have a very peaceful and quiet zendo -- this kind of Japanese world transported or transplanted into that particular zendo environment. And it seems to be the difference between that and the Zen developed in Japan, is that they don't have to transport or import or create island at all, because whole style of environment is always there and it's just purely one extra room where you come and sit and meditate. And the certain problems comes up from that situation, of the two way of dealing with -- recreating the situation or accepting the situation as it is. That the eccentric quality of transplanting into midst of another culture accentuates the fascination, and also accentuates a kind of extreme sort of militant outlook.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean, in other word, there is a definite idea that Americans could become Japanese, in spite of their physical differences, which we can't help. But on the other hand that I think essence of the teaching that developed in far as in terms of practicing meditating, as far as the techniques goes, that there doesn't seem to be particular differences at all with the Tibetan teaching. And particularly Soto school of Zen seem to have lot of things in common with the style that Tibetan teachers taught. So as far as techniques of meditation goes, seem to be almost identical. You could say that a Zen student could practice and then they could come and study with us, and it would be just a continue with their practice rather than give up anything. In terms of practice, they just continue with the meditation as they been doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut there seem to be lot of external differences of style. That Buddhism came to Tibet and Tibetans adopted as Tibetan Buddhism, rather than they try to become Indians. In fact, even they don't bother to learn Sanskrit language or Indian language at all. When Buddhism translated into-- teachings translated into Tibet, including names of places, names of people like Buddha, Ananda, or places like Bodh Gaya and Benaras or Kushinagar -- even names of places translated into Tibetan words, so that they don't have to feel foreign to them. So there is a lot of Tibetan name of-- as though these places does exist in Tibet. Or such people also does exist in Tibet because they have Tibetan name but they get sense of it. So it seem to be that it is kind of largely based on different way of transplanting, in terms of basic environment. And there could be an American Buddhism -- I don't think this is particularly ambitious project. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=4202.0,4634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Now there's a question of style that-- I don't know if [INAUDIBLE WORDS] are basic, the difference. Like in Zen-- in a zendo the teacher always comes to sit with the students. He never misses. [Laughter] It's almost like a duty, you know, he has a duty to come and sit. Feels like it's important to show by example. And I was wondering why you don't come and sit with us. [laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is another sort of sociological, so to speak, patterns happening in the world. Is that in time of Buddha and Christ that there was-- it was age of sort of monarchy and extreme leadership. That teachings of Buddha for instance spread all over Indian continent, Asian continent, from Japan, China to Afghanistan, up to way up Mongolia and Russia. But there is a tremendous movement of one person is spreading their teaching as expanding empire. And seeing that the twentieth century that pattern of dictatorial, so to speak, or imperial style seem to be diminished with the dreams and examples of Mussolini and Hitler, attempted to recreate but didn't succeed. So there is kind of a democratic pattern. It seems that presently in the world there doesn't seem to be-- going to be *one* savior and one great guru, savior of the world come and everybody have to follow, necessarily at all. But it had to be an individual style, democratic, individual discoveries.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo same as in the practice of meditation that, I mean obviously someone have to instigate idea of meditation, but it had to be leaderless practice. Like when we have discussions should be also leaderless. That people should be able to conduct meditation, quite random. And if anybody decide to ring the gong, for instance, that those who feel like doing it could do so. So there is a process of decentralized. I mean in other word that whole approach should be not based on one person, or should be-- or whole thing should be based on individualities of people. I think that seem to be one of the-- also insurance, so to speak, policy for the future spiritual development. That if you lost that particular leader, if that person left the country or died, that you don't have to look for somebody else to lead your meditation. But as you've been doing all together, you can do that all the time in same way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=4634.0,4916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: For this thing, I get, about the seminars, like already mentioned about the static quality. I sometimes find it like a little bit, almost-- a little disturbing almost that I have an expectation that I have from leaders or people who are teaching to tell you what to do. It's like you continue [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter] The point is, it's almost like, I think-- I feel like the question itself, introduced to push me to say it like things that are potentially a case of preaching. You know, it's like the Christians. And I feel that makes a certain amount of nervousness in people if they-- [laughter] you see what opens up. You know, it's a [INAUDIBLE] opening up. But no one comes there to say, \"Okay, [INAUDIBLE] but take something and do it.\" And it's a little bit unsettling, just like the feeling that I have here. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] thrown back on itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut apart from all that, do you meditate, ever, in the formal sense of sitting down, ever in your life? I know from reading your book that you have, but... [laughter] I mean it's a question of personal-- a personal question. I mean do you feel like you need to, ever? Or do you ever do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be-- depends on the situations. But a kind of formal sitting, in terms of imposing on oneself somehow, doesn't apply anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: To whom? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=4916.0,5039.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE] path you have traveled, lead to the same place [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] it really doesn't matter which school that you travel, which school that you take, because they all lead to the same place. And yet, in the teaching [INAUDIBLE WORDS] that, you know, without belittling or pointing out the difference. I mean [INAUDIBLE] or is there something very particular about the Kagyu tradition? And it seems the same to me-- seems to be the same as between more eye-to-eye level between Zen and tantra [INAUDIBLE] And reading and hearing both, they both seem to be looking at each other directly eye-to-eye level. But in other non-Buddhist teachings, especially they seem to be handed down [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it seems that particularly related to-- to appreciate the differences seem to be also important. Because if you don't have basic, fixed practices that you can discipline yourself with, then quite possibly you being choosing all the time whatever you feel like choosing so naturally lead to discipline oneself comes, there's nothing that you can relate yourself with at all. But from the Buddhist point of view, the sameness of all the teachings are applicable, as long as the teachings are not based on the-- on ego level. If teachings are based on non-ego level then you have the methods, and traditions, techniques develop seem to be same.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: And I think it was Dickens who said-- I heard it was Dickens who said that Gandhi was the greatest Hindu since Buddha. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He was what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Gandhi was the greatest Hindu since Buddha. I mean, is that [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Great Hindu, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Greatest Hindu since Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Greatest Hindu since Buddha. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there seem to be confusion between Indian culture and Hinduism as a religion. That obviously Buddha started off teaching, or his practice of meditation and his way of relating with-- started dealing with the people is obviously from-- I mean Indian fashion obviously. But in terms of his way of keeping with the Indian Hindu tradition of like caste system and devotional worship and things like that, that it is been completely different. For that matter you could say that teachings of Sikhism are Guru Nanak's teaching, same thing as adopted to Indian culture. But Sikhs never refer themselves as Hindus, they regard themselves as Sikhs, in terms of cultural setting.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Rinpoche, I'd like to give an on opinion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean in a sense, could be said as like \"Christ was greatest Jew since Moses.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah definitely, yeah. I mean it had to happen, because as long as somebody experienced the truth without relativity, which is a non-ego thing, which is, I'm sure, you know, self-evident in many teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=5039.0,5353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: I'm confused by what you said just basically about the democratic aspect of meditation. In your book MEDITATION IN ACTION you have this whole chapter on transmission in which you talk about the need and the circumstance for the person to have the experience of having clear light transmitted by someone who has it, so that one experiences it from the outside and then can get in touch with that in-- within oneself. This seems to be different from what you say about each person sort of taking up meditation and doing it on their own and so on, without ever having this experience. How important is that sort of experience of transmission?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's the whole point. You see you have to-- in other word for instance that everybody, most of us here, are-- come to conclusions of some kind, and that's why that we are here together. Which is a very much individualistic style. And at the same time that why we're here together, is brought together, by certain particular situations. Like everybody is united in the democracy, which is in itself one idea. Everybody share it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd when I talk about leaderless and democratic spiritual way is that having received certain teachings from particular teachers, they don't constantly depend on their teacher all the time. They could receive teaching from one person -- it is quite possible that million person could receive teaching from one person -- but at the same time they are not leaning on it as a leader, as emperor. So they then become individuals, having received teaching already. So it's quite subtle in a sense. That you do have to have the inspiration, but having received the inspiration, then that inspiration should be nursed by individually. Which might be quite discomforting in some sense that you be suspended in a conclusions by yourself of what's been said already. That there is always discomforting situation, that your mother is not willing to feed you anymore with the breast, and suddenly you end up with a bottle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But since one can relate to the teaching through reading, this means then that there is no real need for either the guru or the initiation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in order to be individuals, you do have to have some need of the teaching or teacher, definitely. Otherwise you wouldn't know how to be individuals. In other word, having guru or teacher is encouragement to be individuals.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But is the personal relationship with the guru or teacher necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Necessary, yes, in order to have some experience of how to be individual.[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=5353.0,5590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Rinpoche, could I-- I'd just like to say something on-- I want to teach you something that I've found very valuable in this sense of having a teacher in the aspect of what we are talking about. Using-- also using the six realms, you know something to get to know your own patterns of behavior. When you're interacting with others and you feel they're, you know, they're acting a certain way, you can examine your own behavior and actions. But you're not really sure exactly how much of it is you, and how much of it is them, and exactly what type of game you're playing, and what kind of game, you know, how much *their* game it is. But when you have the teacher, it's a mirror so that it's like there's a constant on one side of the equation. You don't have two barriers, you only have you. So that it's a mirror -- when the game is going on you know that it's *your* game. Like, when we were sitting at the party, I felt like saying something to you, but-- you know, like something complimentary. Yet that, you know-- and then I said, wait a minute, you know why am I saying that? To someone else, I might be saying it because it will make that person feel good to get a compliment. Yet, you know, I said, wait a minute, you know, he doesn't need any [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\n[TAPE CHANGE]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the six realms of being, Tail of the Tiger, Vermont, December 1971. Seventh talk, part two.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As you said, particularly from that point of view, the analogy of mirror seem to be very applicable. It's like the analogies that often used in sutras of a hundred bowls of water reflects hundred moons but there's only one moon. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=5590.0,5724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: I feel differently from Mike about the usefulness, the [UNCLEAR: neediness?] of your-- of this seminar. But I kept thinking, there are two parts, and I find one more immediately nourishing than the other part.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's very easy to, for me at least, to get a lot of nourishment, of usefulness, out of the analysis of the six realms. Because I can identify anytime whether I'm being asura-like animal-like, etcetera. And that seems to be a very down-to-earth sort of topic, very interesting. And more or less, we find out our patterns which we already sense, but can't quite get straight.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then the relationship between the six realms, six bardos, the states of existence, the moving from one to the other, the general outline of the seminar is so unfamiliar and new that I just couldn't possibly understand it without listening to the tapes again and again. And that part seems sort of[INAUDIBLE]and waiting to be filled. I'm uncertain. And yet at the same time, the most interesting part of the seminar is the most provocative. The six realms are sort of a homespun psychology, while the other has a much more subtle sense to it. It's introducing really new ideas, not some of the things that are intuitively already sensed from our lives. Particularly the idea of the bardo is a tremendously provocative idea, a completely new language and scope.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=5724.0,5843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: The other night when we did the Sadhana [of Mahamudra], I had the experience of-- when I had a thought, the changes tend to be made with [INAUDIBLE WORDS] changes of names and so on. And I thought that this a barrier between, like between the students and whatever was contained in the Sadhana. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] experience, why would I also [INAUDIBLE WORDS] inspirational experience? [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] experiencing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: All the new names, all the [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's exactly what you're trying to develop here is that in certain stage that the foreign qualities of the different terminologies and the different even-- I mean concepts and way of thinking and the way of seeing iconographical pictures could-- does not present problem, because that you start from the basic, very basic, working with yourself. That if you're able to relate with yourself, maybe like for instance in the sadhana it mentions of Karma Pakshi Dorje Trolo -- he's the central figure, embodiment of crazy wisdom. And some state that because of our development, in terms of practice and our understanding of what we are and how our understanding or experiences, mean something definite, something solid to us, constantly. The life experience becomes more vivid and more real, so some stage person begin to find that idea of crazy wisdom is already there -- you realize you been experience that already. So when you hear such concept as crazy wisdom or Karma Pakshi Dorje Trolo, then you begin to automatically realize the meaning behind it, so whole thing doesn't become foreign to you anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich means that the presentation of symbolism from the Buddhist tradition into this country had to take for a long time developing. Probably might take another fifteen or sixteen, twenty years to develop that inevitability or the common-sense quality of the whole thing. So that's why. That I don't think there's any point in presenting any kind of further symbolism but except that each person could relate with their basic psychology seems like what we been talking about. Six realms for instance, that people don't find such ideas like realm of gods or asuras or hungry ghosts are foreign to them anymore, because they realize that *they* have their qualities in them so they be easy to identify with it, so same kind of pattern.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: The inspirational quality that I [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the starting point, yes. I mean because it is inspiring, which means automatically it is not foreign exactly. There's something in you which has the same quality as what we said in the Sadhana as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=5843.0,6086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think we have to go to that extreme necessarily, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there seem to be a problem at that point. There is-- for one thing there is a linguistic problem, like names and certain terminologies. For instance, word like \"karma\", nobody's translated or adopted an English name for it. But instead of changing, that it has been accepted part of the English language now, it appears in Oxford Dictionary -- karma, nirvana, Buddha -- they're just there, part of the English language. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Read what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it would be awkward if you aware it is being Sanskrit language, for a name. Once it cease to be that as a Sanskrit lang-- words then if you relate with the actual experiences of the meaning behind it, whole thing becomes quite simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Naturally, yeah. Like word like \"pajama\" -- supposedly a Hindi word, came from Hindi and we use it. We have no difficulty saying \"pajama.\" [Laughter] And \"jungle\" is also a Hindi word supposedly, and we just adopted. No difficulty saying it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6086.0,6218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72410/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perhaps we should close our... I hope that what we have discussed in the seminar should be able to relate with personal experiences. And also I would sincerely hope that this will save us some further expenses, in terms of that we don't have to go for further shoppings to spend more money. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6218.0,6269.41388"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720101VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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Why do you say,\n\"it *seems* that this is the way\nis should be\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3230.12,3234.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or \"it seems that\n[INAUDIBLE] that happened\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=3234.15,3236.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems\nthat 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Like word like \"pajama\" --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6187.24,6194.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supposedly a Hindi word,\ncame from Hindi and we use it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6194.48,6201.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have no difficulty\nsaying \"pajama.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6201.87,6207.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"jungle\" is also\na Hindi word supposedly,\nand we just adopted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6207.74,6213.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No difficulty saying it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6213.01,6216.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perhaps\nwe should close our...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6218.58,6225.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hope that what we have\ndiscussed in the seminar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6230.16,6239.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should be able to relate\nwith personal experiences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6239.2,6244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also I would sincerely hope\nthat this will save us\nsome further expenses,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6244.0,6253.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of that we don't have\nto go for further shoppings to\nspend more money. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6253.43,6260.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029#t=6260.18,6266.93"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138141/file/256029/transcript/72411/annotation/1123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/072/411/original/19720101VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1730907837","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/072/411/original/19720101VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1730907837"}]}]}]}