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Intention is preparing the ground for clear perception of things as they are, rather than filtered through ego. Tantric approach is that ordinary life is seen on the level of symbol, rather than as purely mundane. Even a fight with one's spouse, mailing a letter, the clothes one wears, are symbols. The most powerful symbolism is \"oneself as an individual\"; that we are the \"biggest caricatures\" of ourselves. Discusses the beauty in things, of ordinary truths, and that messages, reminders, meanings are taking place constantly. Simple, direct, profound symbolism of everyday life as unique to the Buddhist vajrayana view. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks, \"If everything is a symbol, what are they symbols of?\" Trungpa Rinpoche responds, \"Everything is a symbol of itself.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","VIDEODVD: True Perception","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook I"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Ordinary Truth\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 07 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eVIDEODVD: TRUE PERCEPTION\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK421\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eVISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK I (out-of-print)\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 21 2021 to Jun 25 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroduces seminar as not oriented toward art historical or ethnographic approach to Buddhist iconography, but on developing ways of seeing symbolism, both Buddhist and in ordinary life situations, as pathways to awakening. Intention is preparing the ground for clear perception of things as they are, rather than filtered through ego. Tantric approach is that ordinary life is seen on the level of symbol, rather than as purely mundane. Even a fight with one's spouse, mailing a letter, the clothes one wears, are symbols. The most powerful symbolism is \"oneself as an individual\"; that we are the \"biggest caricatures\" of ourselves. Discusses the beauty in things, of ordinary truths, and that messages, reminders, meanings are taking place constantly. Simple, direct, profound symbolism of everyday life as unique to the Buddhist vajrayana view. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks, \"If everything is a symbol, what are they symbols of?\" Trungpa Rinpoche responds, \"Everything is a symbol of itself.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/162/756/small/thumbnail_162756_1663906430.jpg?1663908054","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4559.42386,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/162/756/small/thumbnail_162756_1663906430.jpg?1663908054","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/162/756/original/19750722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4?1658151099","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4559.42386,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750722VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750722VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra - Talk 1 - Symbolism in Everyday Life]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=0.0,6.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to welcome everybody who are taking part of this particular course; and who's also acting as observer; and people who are dropping by, so to speak. But it would be difficult for us to cover, on the various degrees of audience that we have here, to give individuals a complete understanding of the whole thing, unless that everybody comes back again and again, so we have some understanding as to the procedures of the growth of idea, development of idea that we're trying to discuss and trying to set up at this particular point. And particularly the subject that we have chosen, this particular course, is very tricky and very difficult one; that I would like to warn you, once more, is that presentation of this particular course cannot be taken as purely introduction to tantra, and completely into tantric traditions alone. Because otherwise, you have difficulty in understanding, for one thing, which doesn't make any sense; and also you will have difficulties in the sense of correlating with your interest in Buddhism in general. Another thing is lots of misconceptions. That we cannot present the *whole* truth, this point. And tantric practitioners, basically, are supposedly those who are really practicing, those who really actually get into the discipline itself. So this point, that lot of the audience are somewhat are shopper, tester, experimenter, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=6.0,163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the one of the basic ideas, presentation of this particular idea, is that we could try to simplified in as much as we could absorb, as much as we can *understand* personally. So that it makes some kind of worthwhile -- that it has some kind of application to our everyday life situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=163.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular course is not designed for purely art historians, alone, or purely designed for anthropological students of art, particularly. But this particular course is designed to, in somewhat, people have something in mind in terms of wanted to understand themselves, and would like to work with-- along those lines, with oneself. Which has been generally in the goal and the aim of the Naropa Institute, generally. That it is not so much of that you learn lots of gimmicks by coming here in Boulder. That you probably might understand something about yourself, your view of life, and your view of phenomenal world in general. In turn that you might understand certain particular viewpoint, which is applicable from audio, visual, point of view as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=191.0,261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, tonight is being the first beginning of our discussion on this particular subject. And popularly assigned as \"iconography\", basically speaking, I would like to follow that particular direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=261.0,281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But first of all -- here it goes. [Laughter] First of all, that before you know anything about *anything*, that we have a problem. Motivation. Understanding of oneself. Problems with the phenomenal world. And all kinds of other things that comes up. Are-- if we are viewing the whole thing as basic raw material situation, like simple canvas, and a simple piece of wood, simple piece of clay. And a very simple and basic and ordinary situation that we experience in our life; very simple, basic grounds. And what are those relationships with ourselves? That piece of canvas being inanimate object -- or piece of clay for that matter -- have no particular personal interest or desire to form itself into painting or sculpture particularly. But as us human beings, we have some ideas, about how the life should be, how the understanding should take place, generally speaking. That we are caught in a double-binding situation. That we want to understand, and also we would like to reshape our universe, according to our own expectations. Whether we are smart or dumb, whether we are visionary, artistic, or unartistic, whatever, that there is some kind of room for us to play. [Pause] [Picks up dorje from table and places on arm of chair]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=281.0,447.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic understanding of symbolism, which I'm trying to get. That the basic idea of symbol *at all*, is providing the two types of ideology, two types of concept. That is related with symbolism connection, connected with theistic discipline, that of symbolism connected with nontheistic discipline. It falls into two patterns. In the case of theistic discipline, symbolism is self-existing confirmation constantly. Whenever there is symbolism exist, you exist, and your world exist. In the case of nontheistic symbolism, such as like Buddhism is concerned, that you don't exist, symbolism don't exist; the universe doesn't exist. That's quite shocking. [Laughter] Well, how we go beyond that? You might ask. But we don't actually go beyond that. That we go *into* it. Instead of trying to go beyond, we try to get *into* it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=447.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion of symbolism that exist in our life situation: our birth, our death, our sickness, our marriage, our business adventure, our educational adventure and everything, is based on the idea of symbolism of some kind. [Pause] This particular symbolism may not be that of the vivid vision that you see by tuning your systems into a mystical state of mind, and begin to see fantastic auras, with some symbols in the middle. And from this point of view of nontheism, such perception is regarded as bullshit. And maybe you need more rest [laughter], and relax more with yourself; have another cup of coffee. That we do not go along with any kind of highfaluted, colorful adventures, cosmic explosions of explosions, explosions, of colors after color, and fantastic visions of \"that\", which is coming to us, particularly. At this point of nontheistic discipline is concerned as Buddhism, that we do not particular glorify \"that\", because we want to be confirm \"this.\" But we just simply go along. The tortoise walks, and carry its heavy duty shell. And cows walk away, graze by itself, in the green meadow, depositing its dung. And pigeons make their own noise, by living at the roof, or the upstairs, at the loft.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=534.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Things have their own place. They don't have to be commanded by the \"higher\" or the \"greater\" particularly. Things are as they are; they are just ordinary, simple situations. We are here all together, you-- everybody's sitting on ground, apart from some, lot of people sitting on a chair. But nevertheless that we are not commanded by the ceiling to do that, that we do it by with our own will, our own particular understanding. The ceiling has nothing to do with our sitting down here. So we don't have to relate with \"that\" and \"this\" [gestures upward and downward with dorje] particularly. We just go along and do what we want. If you want to lay down, you do it. If you want to change your leg shift, you do it right *here*, we do it. We don't have to constantly confer to the ceiling, or the light, or the sky for that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=706.0,764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The-- in order to understand the symbolism, to begin with, there's lot of barriers that takes place, as the magical message that constantly occur to you, opposed to general, basic, directive relationship that we experience with *ourselves*, is in conflict in some sense. And a lot of-- in fact all of our student who are here, have been brought up and raised, or at least influenced in somewhat or other, in some theistic situation obviously, there is no other way. But in this case, we are not particularly denying God as such, as bold remark. But we are simply trying to find our direction and our general approach to *reality*, as simple as we could. That we do not refer to the walls or the ceilings, but we just come here and walk in, we just sit down, relate with that particular situation. And you people sit there and I'm sit here. And as I came in I never check the ceiling's confirmation, that whether I could sit here or not. Or you didn't check with that either. So whole thing actually simplifies as much as that. It's very direct and simple situation. Seemingly very simple-minded approach, but actually it's very profound, and extremely deep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=764.0,878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Symbolism come as messages, usually, if you could forget the sky, or \"it\" or \"him\" or \"her\", particularly, but just eye-level relationship, very simple eye-level relationship, that \"me and my world\", very directly, very simple. That makes whole thing extremely simple. That there is no big brother is watching you, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=878.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Symbols of all kinds, significance of all kind, occurred throughout our life. And most penetrating and powerful symbolism that ever has occurred to our life is [laughs], whether you believe or not, is pain. Here we go again. [Laughter; laughs] Discomfort. Which is based on idea of a general sense of uncertainty, which tend to bring very flush, powerful memories in our heart. We live our life, we lead our life, we have our own life, our relatives, our husbands, our wives, our children, our washing machine, our motor car, what have you. All kinds of things that occured. It's the hassle is takes place on Earth, and the hassle doesn't taken place in sky, on the ceiling. There is a theological point of view here, is everything takes place on the Earth rather than sky. Except when you get pissed off at somebody, which is some kind of Christian tradition, is we look at [laughter] ourselves -- phew! The reference to that is that everything's unknown what that person does -- he may be crazy or he may be not crazy, may be putting on something, that we look -- phew! Look up. But that creates further and further *and* further conceptualization of that person -- that's \"he's loony, she's loony.\" Is everything rest in the upstairs. I mean that remark, \"upstairs\", \"up *here*\", \"he's a bit of upstairs,\" \"he's up there, rather than down here.\" Which automatically refers to of ludicrous, and confused. So anything unknown is referred to \"upstairs\", and \"loft\" -- Lufthansa. [Laughter] \"Upstairs.\" \"Loft.\" \"At the air.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=910.0,1088.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's very convenient thing to do. And nobody point down [points dorje in hand downward], to the ground. Unless we want to tell somebody is a \"bad boy\" or \"bad girl.\" [Points dorje down again] That means \"wicked\", \"terrible\" -- as you know, our symbolism goes, our \"mudra\" goes. That this [points thumb up in air] means okay, he's, or she's up there. But once he's goes too far then you also get terrified, maybe something \"up there\" [taps forefinger on his temple], which means crazy. But going down [points thumb down] is bad and should be rejected, but at the same time, can't be helped. \"That's all we could do,\" basically speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1088.0,1155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that point of view, the idea of symbolism of suffering that we are discussing early on, which plays very important part. But suffering becomes realistic and a real issue, to where the complain is occurred: complain is never occurred that way [points thumb down] or that way [points thumb up], but right *here* [makes fist at chest level], in the middle ground, where we are living, where we actually experiencing our life on this particular Earth. And nobody settles down to underground, or nobody settles in the air. We settle on this planet -- above Earth, but not quite up in the air. We build our houses on the ground, but we don't try to build houses floating in the air; nobody's quite accomplished that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1155.0,1223.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People get absolutely fascinated, that the Tibetans can levitate. And there is an eccentric old gentleman in England, who actually wrote letter to me, and he wanted to invite me and work for his projected \"Little Potala\" monastery. That he thought such name of his house. And he would like to build his laboratory of Tibetan lamas, behind a glass case, levitating so the audience can watch from go outside. [Laughter] So actually it works. That's a true story, actually. And he actually said that. And he did want to do that. But the plan didn't come off. [Laughter] [Pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1223.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The suffering, basic suffering, as it stands, is very powerful ground, and also it's basic symbolism; man's attitude toward symbolism. The immediate symbolism that we can only experience, is the pain; direct message. That we have been constantly involved ourselves, in seeking for pleasure, pleasure of all kinds. When the pleasure is begin to become our particular theme, and that automatically provides the reference point to pain. We feel relatively good, doing all kinds of things. There's nothing to complain particularly. But then we would like to entertain ourselves *more*. And you go to the movie theater, you experience a terrible movie, decide to go to the restaurant, food wasn't so good. Or for that matter, you go to the movie theater, you see a fantastic movie, after that, you go to restaurant, you get fantastic meal. And all of those particular direction that we trying to take, is expression of pain. There is a *fundamental* existence in our mind, is ultimate pain -- of very powerful, extremely powerful, and it is extremely difficult to shake off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1308.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's general sense of uncertainty, as well as general sense of wanting so much. And also it's general sense of, \"I would like to make it better than *this*.\" That particular struggle -- *so much* struggle is taking place there. Each time we tell our friends, our neighbors, our relatives \"everything's going fine, no problem.\" But in the deepest of deepest in our heart, something is grinding. Something's grinding, something's in the process of destroying ourselves -- always, all the time. Even that we might say that \"I had a fantastic time and I'm having great time *now*.\" That even that is grinding, itself. Grinding one's jaws. [Long pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1451.0,1559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a great sense of... we be captured by our life. And we can't get out of it, we're stuck with it, and we can't-- we don't want to get into it; maybe that's too much for us. We're stuck in the middle of it all the time. We try our best all the time, but still not quite making it. And that kind of situation is becoming very problematic, with us. There is a fundamental concern, takes place all the time. Fundamental concern, always. Whether in a state of happiness or state of pain, or state of relatively gray level and everything's okay, but still that there is some kind of problem takes place always there. And that problem is not particularly, necessarily pronounced or obvious. Psychiatrist would say, \"Maybe something wrong with you, is that you had a bad childhood. That your daddy didn't buy you enough toys. So mommy didn't prolong your breast feeding. Or maybe mommy and daddy were divorced by the time, and you didn't know how to relate with.\" *All* kinds of possibilities of a case history could be brought into that particular neurotic problem. Or psychotic for that matter. That's great symbol that we [laughs] discussing tonight. But nevertheless, \"Maybe I didn't have a good daddy, good mommy, good uncle. Or maybe I didn't have enough food, maybe I didn't want-- didn't get enough toys, enough care and tenderness and love and affection. Maybe something is fucked up in the past.\" But nevertheless, it is the present: obviously it is here now, that we're experiencing. What are we going to do, we going to go back and beat our daddy? Who is in hospital bed and say, \"Daddy, you did terrible job on me. You better do it now before you die!\" [Laughter] Or tell our uncle, \"Give us lots of money, uncle, otherwise, I'm going to freak out.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1559.0,1760.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We can't undo the past, in any case. Daddy will be different by the time we grow up today; he will be different daddy than you experience. The mommy will be different than you experience today, and your uncle -- rich uncle. [Laughs] And your wife and your husband, that it will be different the day you got married, and the day that we facing the chaos that we're experiencing today, will be entirely different. You can't demand for their dispensation, or making up for it. Which would be impossible to do it. If they really going to make up for the whole mistake they made on us, they have to *undo* the past altogether. They had to be the master of the time, they have to change the whole universe upside-down. And so that you would like in a time machine, so you go back your childhood and make everything right, and then finally you flicked on the present. And everything's okay and smooth and cured. And nobody's able to do that; it is not even possible -- not alone that talking about nobody's able to do that, it is impossible to do. We are stuck with our regular thinking, regular situation, world as it is, that we can't do anything very much. Except we have to take what we're given. It's our world, whether you like it or not. As they say \"America, take it or leave it.\" [Laughter] [Pause] That's great symbolism -- American flag. You can't take it, you can't leave it, it's always there. [Laughter] That's first symbolism. And yourself is great symbolism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1760.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People's idea of symbolism is usually connected with something outside -- a signpost or target or billboard of some kind, which says various signs, and has religious signs or significance on it. That's not quite true; this case definition of symbolism as such, per se, is the idea of symbolism that is connected with our inner being, our *selves*, are the biggest symbolism of ourselves. In other word, we are saying, \"You are the biggest caricature of yourself.\" That is symbolism. And often you don't want to listen to your talks in the tape, photographs that be taken of you, you get embarrassed; you thought you could be better. And you don't want to follow up what you look like, from somebody else's view. But maybe we should look into it more ourselves. That we are the caricature of ourselves. And we are the symbolism for ourselves. Unless we have some understanding with this-- that basic symbolism, that we could talk about all tantric symbols, of here and there, all colorful, yidams, and dakinis, and the gurus and devatas, all kinds of things. But somehow it doesn't make any sense; it's just foreign jargon. Which doesn't exist in the realm of possibilities. How we going to relate with those magnificent photographs, magnificent paintings that floating in our mind. And how we going to relate with the stoplight, or green light, the amber light. Or how we going to relate with the Texaco signs, or the BP sign. Holiday Inns. Sheratons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=1886.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People often apologize, as far as-- that's what I have experienced, when I first when I came to this country, they're extremely apologetic. By saying that, \"Sorry, these billboards, and that they are doing a terrible thing to our land. And America isn't actually like this, it could be better. But, sorry excuse for this, you know, these neon signs; sorry, shouldn't be that way, but it could be better.\" So, as I have grown up in America for past five years, that people still apologizing less and less, less, because there's a limit to how much you can apologize. You can provide \"the real, true, great American impeccable sanity.\" [Laughs] Is there such thing? Or *isn't* there such  thing? We do not know! [Laughter] That's why we are here for, to find out the sanity that can develop in The United States of America -- and Canada. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2009.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's conveniently called \"North America\", which is a kind of chickening-out term. And people are self-conscious and nervous by saying \"U.S.A.\", and often people referred it as \"North America.\" And that's the symbolic language actually -- you don't want to relate with some kind of symbolism, some kind of entity, and there is always this kind of pain takes place all the time, pleasure takes place all the time. That we really don't want to relate with the *actuality* of things as they are. So the all-pervasive pain that goes on is a very interesting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2122.0,2179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't want to confuse you, unnecessarily, this point. But I would like to give you some kind of broad perspective, of how our mind work at this level, in this planet, this particular continent, this particular town, in this particular hall. And how our minds work. That I wish that you could really take part closely in, otherwise we cannot discuss the meaning of symbolism per se. That if you people don't take part in it properly. That you have to share the meaning of symbolism, pain and pleasure aspect of symbolism, personally, definitely so. Otherwise we have nothing to discuss with, nothing to talk about. And it becomes very confusing all the time. That the basic symbolism of pain. And its hang-ups that involved. The symbolism of when you wake up, you feel dirty, you wish you could a shower, and you take your shower, feels refreshing. And then you feel hungry, and you want to eat breakfast. Bacon and egg, sunny-side-up, toast and marmalade, quite possibly waffle, or pancakes, something of that nature. If you prepared enough, then you willing to face the day. Having hearty breakfast and *coffee*, goes with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2179.0,2282.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those are all symbolism, that goes along with that whole thing. The idea of \"coffee\", and in fact the word \"coffee\" in itself is very provocative -- it's mantra. [Laughter] \"Pancakes.\" \"Eggs.\" \"Bacons.\" It's very powerful, extremely powerful; it's very poetic. [Laughter] But we don't want to get into the trips of being a poet trip, of making any symbol that exist into-- translated in poetry. Because maybe them publishing books on the poetry, by borrowing ideas from tantric ideas may be dangerous for them. Shall we say?   \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GREGORY CORSO: [Shouting] I already said: when the question period comes, I'll give you the answers!  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] [points vajra at speaker] Gotcha!  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GREGORY CORSO: Surprise! [INAUDIBLE] I'm back!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2282.0,2354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughter; laughs] Well, everything that's goes on in our life:  \"I'm late.\" \"I missed my bus.\" \"I go to take airplane.\" And all those processes are related with some kind of symbolism. That how our simple daily life situation is could be involved with that kind of statement all the time taking place, *all* the time taking place. And we long reject it as purely mundane thing, and all these terrible hassle, big hassle, and you forget the whole thing. You know, you drink your coffee and you take your bacons and eggs, just get over with. \"And maybe I could go to the meditation hall and sit on the zafu. And *that* will be the big thing for me.\" And somehow it doesn't work that way. It's the basic point of tantra at this point we are talking about here, is that some kind of *interest* and awareness, in every activity that we involved in our life, every moment; that now you have to-- everybody have to stand up, when we finish our thing here, you have to stand up, you find you have to head your way to the doorways. There's only two doorways, you can't come the other way. And that's message, that's symbolism. And every moment, every move usually have thought-provoking situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2354.0,2452.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word what we're trying to say here is that, the universe is trying to reach to *you*, to say something, and teach something, *constantly* all the time. But you are *rejecting* all the time, being mundane and sacred, and good and bad, and \"this is terrible, this is good.\" So it's your problem is the rejecting the symbolism, right and left, all the time. So, by rejecting the whole thing, when you have everything's fit into categories of pigeonholes, that you have nothing left in your life except your own pain, and that even pain is not really productive pain, as original pain that we were talking about: you just rot yourself into the grain of sand. Which is not really romantic, it's a terrible thing, it's that the finally ingrown toenail becomes a monstrous thing and eat you up -- not only your toenails, not only your toe, but begin to eat your *whole* body, that everything's deshrivelled, and begin to eat through *everything* of your expansive, energetic visions of the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2452.0,2530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I think that's the basic point, is that there is so much possibilities that we have. That every activity that we are taking place is basic notion of symbolism. And it's seem to be very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2530.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at this point I should apologize to you, and this particular approach is somewhat \"crash course-ish\" approach. But nevertheless that we should try to understand, that how urgency it is that: I would like you to actually appreciate that world around us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2548.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And begin to understand the facts and figures, and the realities that involved around us. That there are lot of beautiful things taking place, which doesn't have to be poetic -- if I may say again -- and spiritual, or mystical, as such necessarily. They are ordinary truth, that takes place in everyday life situation. That you had to fight with somebody: your wife, your husband, your colleague. That's symbolism. That *is* symbolism. You mail your letter to your parents. And you felt something very unusual about posting them in the box. It's maybe symbolism the way you-- everybody sit here: how you're dressed, what kind of clothes you're wearing. Way you sit; whether you're relaxed, whether you're perching, what kind of hairdos you have, whether you're wearing glasses or not, whether your neck is stiff or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2572.0,2664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And depends on how you are doing the whole thing. There *is* some kind of messages taking place. Messages for what? We do not know. It's up to you; there's not going to be a fantastic dictionary, encyclopedia. But there *is* some reminder, and you might smoke cigarettes, you might chew gums, whatever you do. That every activity that you are doing has some kind of meaning behind it. I don't want to make this into whole trip of everything you do is meaningful, an application of your basic psychological state particularly. But that the simple point is that lot of things we do shouldn't be missed; we should experience something or other what we do. Not heavy-handedly, that you're going to write a book about it, you're going to be Gestalt therapy, as such particularly. And \"this philosophy is the same as what I have experience, in the past philosophies.\" If you could drop those preconceptions might be much helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2664.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular approach that we're discussing in the Buddhist vajrayana discussion, is not like anything else that be presented. It's different from Hindu yoga, different from Gestalt therapy, different from Jungian, Freudian, different from *anything* else. Because Buddhist approach is usually unique to its own nontheistic approach. So please don't turn-- please try not jumble things together, because your own sake, because it's much easier to believe, because you feel much better because you've done something to it, therefore you can categorize much easier. I think that's fooling yourself, this point. But what we are discussing is very unique and ordinary, has nothing to do with anything *else* that we discuss. But simply from this point of view, is just simply living situation, that life and experience, life and experience, very simple and direct. Phew! [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nIf you like to join the discussion, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2742.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I'm confused with the uniqueness of Buddhism, in that from what I've learned in other religions, that there's one ultimate truth and that that's what we're all trying to get at. And I have trouble separating, you know, what you're teaching me from other teachings.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, I didn't follow what you had to say. Can you [UNCLEAR: repeat?] --  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay. I'm having trouble just taking Buddhism and looking at it uniquely, without relating it to the other religious practices and things that I've learned.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's not exactly what I'm asking. Is-- I think relating with other disciplines should be okay. But if you're trying to pigeonhole, that Buddhism is jumbled with something else, particularly.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't under--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which makes very complicated issue. By saying that having soup is the same as having a dessert. It's a question of how you can actually relate with your *own* discipline, whatever inspiration that you have. And if you under-- if you have great understanding of it -- of them -- basically, then there's no problem. But one doesn't have to categorize, put into pigeonholes, that's what I'm talking about. And \"everything's in one and happy family,\" somehow doesn't work.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2833.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you think is the relationship between pain and fear?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well fear is somewhat more articulated, in that sense, of ready to fight. But pain is general symptom that exist. So we could say that pain exist already, and the fear is the instrumental dividing, or instrumental intelligence which makes whether pain is fearful or natural. It seem to be very simple. No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2943.0,3006.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There somebody at the back over there. [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I have a question about symbolism. I really didn't follow you at all, but--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: A question about what you were saying about symbolism.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If everything is a symbol, then what is it a symbol of? And who is it a symbol for?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very, very smart question. That's really good one. I'm sorry, I forgot mention about that actually. [Laughter] That's good-- really good one. [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nEverything's symbol of itself. Well, in other word, that we discuss about the idea of \"you are your own caricature.\" That is symbolism. That you don't have to bring your own photograph, but you are your own caricature, everybody has their own caricature about oneself. And it is symbolism of oneself, symbolism of experiencing *itself*. Even when we put symbol, you know -- visual symbol, artistically -- they represent themselves. And ideas comes afterwards. So that's the whole point; you know, like if you do interior decoration in the room, that they for speak themselves. Then the feeling that some people got out of that, become some kind of conceptual, metaphysical survey. But everything stand by itself. And as far as you are concerned, you are symbolism of yourself, that point. [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Think about that. I think it's not quite as simple as that but I think probably you should think about it, everybody should think about that. And it's worth thinking. I-- if I may use some kind of un-kosher remark here, I will say if you think on the symbolism and  your relationship to it, it is worth it. It's [UNCLEAR: simply? seem?] rewarding. Which I'm not supposed to say, according to my ex-boss. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3006.0,3178.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, last week I went to a prison reform conference at the university. And the symbolism that I got from being there, was that without meditation that no change could really happen. And I was wondering if it's possible in the future, when you feel that there's teachers qualified, to be able to do a meditation and arts program with prisons, or with ex--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditation and what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And arts program, along with meditation.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Article?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Arts, like poetry and drawing--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Arts.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah. And would it be possible for to work with the prisons or with halfway houses that way with-- through Naropa or Karma Dzong?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fantastic. Sure. We could do it. We be trying to do that in the past, too. I'm sure we could do it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would it be good to talk to the office about that in the near future, like during this session?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Nods to questioner in affirmation]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3178.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You were talking about pain, and the symbolism of pain. Is-- it seemed to me that you were hinting that the resolution of the symbolism, or the meaning of the symbolism of pain was contained within the pain itself and that the, you know, that exploring that pain was a viable way to get at it. It seems to me that is-- pain is also a symbol of a situation, and it would seem like-- is it a valid symbol in that it lets you know of the other symbols in the situation, or is it more a valid symbol just as itself?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's connected with environment obviously. If there is no environment, you can't have pain. Obviously pain has occurred because the environment. And also with some kind of intelligence, that you have reached level of pain. Rather than accept as just ordinary, mundane situations. That you have some kind of experience that pain is actually felt, because you begin to feel-- it's begin to feel *hurt*, in psychological level. And when you begin to feel hurt, unpleasant, that's very intelligence move, intelligent insight in some sense. That pain is real, it is not \"healthy\" situation. So it takes lot of steps. And pain is largely based on sense of inspiration, basically speaking. That you are not stuck with the pain as such, but you have long journeys to make with the pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3266.0,3380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There's-- the truth confronts us at any point.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The truth confronts us at any point. But there's a lag in our realization.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: A lag, a pause. Well there's-- we don't realize immediately. And in our lag, we lose it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you say so. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\n[VIDEO TAPE CHANGE - BLACK SCREEN]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, it seems that in my life experience, there's been at every point there's always been the realization, but I didn't realize it until later, and therein came the pain. Is iconography a-- is that why it's-- does it help the gap, the lag? Does it help to fill--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No promise from iconography. And iconography might make things worse. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Sure.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, the basic point is not particularly trying to give you some kind of drug, to cure everything. But to *show* you everything. That's iconography precisely is--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Gap or lag. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the question about truth.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, that-- I mean, truth in the sense of real.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Here, now.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by that?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What's happening.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's happening? [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [Laughs] Here it is. I mean, \"what's happening.\"  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think those lot of hippie terms.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No, I'm not--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3380.0,3479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Begin to make very complicated, like somebody says, \"That's your trip. That's your bullshit,\" you know. What you mean by \"that\"? You know, it gets very complicated. Because people have learned to dodge against some kind of situations, that when you begin to say, \"it's your trip,\" that you have no articulated terms to say, you know, \"it's your trip.\" What you mean by your trip? You know, what kind of trip we're talking about here? Are you talking about LSD trip? Which you-- I suppose originally was referred. But then what kind of *personal* trips that's involved? And makes whole thing very unarticulated, and whole thing becomes very--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But that's the lag that I'm speaking about. That's the gap, between the full communication, the full reality, and the-- what we're dealing with now, by do--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is-- what is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --by being here in this school, by being here in this meditation.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is to help to end this -- well, not end it, but to harmonize it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is now? What is now? What is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, I'm not going to put any words on it or try to define it, because I'm only going to limit it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's chickening out. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No it isn't! But it's not! I mean, it's... [Laughter] What am I going have-- how can I-- you define it! You tell me.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose you are making some kind of statement.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm not making any statement, I'm asking a question.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what is now? In order for me to answer you.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, that was the question. [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is now? I mean, what...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3479.0,3592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come on! You could be more articulate. [Snaps fingers twice at Speaker7] [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm just trying to get my [UNCLEAR: reggae?] together, right. Okay, now, all I'm saying is that there's a gap, between my realization and what you're saying, sometimes; sometimes there isn't.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, sure. Possibility. But what is now? [Laughs] What *is* now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, that's what I'm here to find out; what is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm mmm. [Laughter] You are not going to get away with *that*. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh! Well, you're not going to get away with that either!  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know, I can't get away with anything, so that's why I'm asking you, [laughter] to join *me*. So what is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: All right, all right. Now is all I have. I don't know anything beyond that.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Have\"? [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Now is all it that has me?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That-- that's in past.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, right, I know. Well--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"What we have is now,\" is past.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, you know, you're going to try-- you're going to run me around trying to define \"now\", and who's going to define it?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I was hoping you could do it--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And not end up in the past! [Laughter; laughs; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] Anybody that does that is going to end up in the past.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come on! You can do better than that! [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh, come on! I don't-- I don't-- what?? [Laughs; laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] What do you mean I could do better than that?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Sorry, what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, well?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Honestly. Honestly, personally, what is now?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Experience.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's pretty close. Experience of what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Experience [UNCLEAR: of self? itself?].  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Self? Itself?]. *That's* it. That's not so good, but that's it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What's better? [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; nodding] Okay!  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Finished?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, sure.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's as far as we could go! [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [Shouting] [UNCLEAR: He likes it?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3592.0,3751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Gentleman in green?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It seemed to me that you were saying that we make symbols out of everything because it's easier for us to pigeonhole, and we can avoid confronting them perhaps. And that fear is the greatest symbol-- or pain is the greatest symbol of all. I guess we wouldn't make it a symbol unless it was valuable for us. Why do we develop this relationship we have with pain? Does it work for us? Is it easier for us to deal with it?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it needs some kind of real understanding, willingness to watch your world. Which is, traditionally speaking what's known as it's \"meditation in action.\" Is that paying attention to what's going around-- in your life, everyday life situation. And experiencing them precisely and thoroughly, with a sense of humor always. And nothing's regarded as particularly hassle. But everything regarded as a message, but not being particular tripped out of that, by saying that \"everything's a message, wow, everything's groovy.\" You know, not on that level, but simply, just experiencing things as they are, precisely, directly. \r\n\r\n\r\nAnd more respect of phenomenal world, rather than trying to get something out of them, for your own benefit. If you tripped out, which basically means that you're viewing the phenomenal world can feed you, so you have enough informations. But this point it is different. That if you relate with the phenomenal world properly, clearly as much as you can, you don't milk them out, but you begin to appreciate them. And you have to give, and they give at the same time. It's-- I think the whole thing is very experiential. You could try it, you know, right now if you like. Or after we get out of this particular hall, you could try. But always will be the same thing. It's a level of how much we wanted to make study of it; that's going to be mistake. If you going to make *journey* out of it, that maybe is better. But then even \"journey\", which makes very hazy, at that point. That journey of -- JOURNEY TO IXTLAN. And seem to be wrong kind of journey, that kind of approach. Everything truly magical, everything is highly magical; that seem to be wrong kind of journey. And I've experience very-- lot of doubts that connected with that particular whole approach, Don Juan's dream-like approach. And we haven't actually sort out our ideas on the particular books and ideas, but that I begin to detect something extremely fishy is taking place there. So that would be another subject of reviewing. \r\n\r\n\r\nBut however, in terms of personal application, that you are not taking journey to the mystical land. But journey is very direct journey. That if you run out of gasoline in your car, is direct journey. That you run out of your gasoline in your car. And if you run out of money in your pocket, that's direct journey. And the whole thing had to be very precise and direct, rather than making a mystical journey of such particularly, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3751.0,4012.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman over there? Paul?  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: Is it correct to say that symbols are not something that we make, particularly, but a process that manifests itself or appears, when we're not using the phenomenal world for any kind of confirmation?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, I couldn't make head or tail of what you had to say.  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: Okay, I-- Should I put it close?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say it again, if you don't mind?  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: Okay. Is it correct-- the gentleman before said that-- \r\n\r\n\r\nRight-- right into it? Alright. [Laughs]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: One of the other questioners mentioned that-- \r\n\r\n\r\nThis thing is [UNCLEAR: burning up?] .  \r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIO TECHNICIAN: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: [Laughs] One of the other people who asked a question talked about the-- our making symbols. But is it correct to say that symbols are not particularly something that we make, but kind of a process that appears when we're not using the phenomenal world to confirm anything for ourselves?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, definitely, yeah. I mean you can't make new symbols. If you going to make it *even*. Even if you going to make it, it's going to be something that you have experience with, and you put a lot of things together. So symbolism from that point of view is what we have here, right now. Definitely. Okay? Do you want to say something?  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: They are things as they are then?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So to speak.  \r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED PAUL: And we read them, rather than make them?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess good as mine. [Laughter] We been working together enough, long enough. You should know the truth. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=4012.0,4171.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, the very fact that there is a word such as \"symbol\", or there is a conception such as symbol, it seems to indicate to me there is-- it's trying to represent the fact that there may be different levels of experience. And yet you seem to be-- in other words, that something-- that a symbol is something that stands for something else, something behind it perhaps. And yet you're saying that a symbol just stands for itself.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So there seems to be something I really don't understand in that. And it's some kind of confusion, as though--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you have to experience your life, in order to understand the symbolism. Symbolism is sort of vanguard. Maybe from dictionary's point of view it's different, but it's a vanguard. Like when you have a symbol--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Are you saying \"vanguard\"?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vanguard, of your phenomenal experience. When you have a symbol to carry, that makes people their mind is relieved, that you belong to certain particular organization. They have their symbols to have along with them. Particular badge, particular uniform, which is idea of vanguard, that first flush of thought doesn't have to confuse yourself, that could accept at once. And that seem to be some kind of idea of symbolism. Maybe we are talking [sic: not talking] about symbolism as such particularly, but we're talking about regalia, you know -- regalia? Particular symbols you have on your body, on your uniform. And regalia is more-- much more appropriate word than symbolism, such this particular approach. That you come along with your particular mark, and that's what's called the first-- in the Buddhist tradition the \"three marks of existence.\" And the first mark is impermanent, suffering, egoless, and so it goes on. That world is marked with certain particular symbols, of their own particular standing, quite rightly so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=4171.0,4332.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: May there be an existence without sym--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: May there be an existence without symbols? May there be a life that's predicated directly on experience, without *any* symbols?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, since you have said it, I don't think it's possible. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Since I've said it, you think it is not possible?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you have to express in terms of symbolism, which is your voice.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Again, it's--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your language.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12. Oh.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you have to express anything in terms of language, that is symbolism already. And you can't destroy itself.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well let me ask the question again, only I'll do it silently.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't. [Laughter] We'll still have symbols. [Points dorje toward questioner]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=4332.0,4391.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39429/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is a very interesting point to adjourn this particular meeting. Hopefully you can study more, in terms of ideas that we discussed today. If anybody didn't have a chance to ask questions, quite possibly you could come back next time. And we could continue our journey towards symbolism. [Laughter] Thank you. Have a good nightmares. [Laughter] And sleep well, nevertheless.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13:  We have a couple of announcements. For those of you who need a meditation cushion, and won't be here Thursday night or are leaving town, or going to the dathun, or whatever, Lotus Cushions is open tonight, for those of you who are leaving town or who need a cushion for the zafu. For everyone else who's interested in a meditation cushion, the Lotus Cushions will be open before class on Thursday, and also on Sundays during the nyinthun breaks.  That's Lotus Cushions: they're downstairs, next to the door to the parking lot, they're in a classroom, next to a door in the parking lot.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=4391.0,4559.42386"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750722VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like\nto welcome everybody","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=6.55,10.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who are taking part\nof this particular course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=13.36,16.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And who's also\nacting as observer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=20.99,23.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and people who are\ndropping by, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=29.39,33.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, it would be difficult\nfor us to cover,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=36.38,40.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the various degrees\nof audience that we have here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=41.64,44.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to give individuals\na complete understanding","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=45.56,50.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the whole thing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=50.09,51.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unless that everybody\ncomes back again and again,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=51.57,54.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so we have\nsome understanding","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=54.91,56.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as to the procedures\nof the growth of idea,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=56.58,60.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"development of idea\nthat we trying to discuss","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=62.0,65.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and trying to set up\nat this particular point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=65.36,67.659"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And particularly the subject\nthat we have chosen,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=68.56,71.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this particular course, is very\ntricky and very difficult 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Is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2871.63,2873.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think relating with other\ndisciplines should be okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=2875.38,2878.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you're trying\nto 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Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3030.69,3032.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4:\nIf everything is a symbol,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3033.87,3035.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then what is it a symbol of?\nAnd who is it a symbol 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Sure. 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I mean, it's...\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3564.46,3569.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/897","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What am I going have--\nhow can I-- you define it!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3569.28,3571.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/898","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You tell me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3571.54,3573.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/899","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI suppose you are making","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3573.71,3575.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/900","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some kind of statement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3575.4,3576.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/901","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nI'm not making any statement,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3576.63,3577.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/902","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm asking a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3577.88,3579.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/903","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, what is now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3579.58,3581.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/904","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order for me\nto answer you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3581.02,3582.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/905","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nWell, that was the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3584.7,3586.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3586.23,3587.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3587.46,3588.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/908","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nWhat is now? I mean, what...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3588.68,3590.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/909","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come on!\nYou could be more articulate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3592.29,3594.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3594.56,3598.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: I'm just trying\nto get my [UNCLEAR: reggae?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3598.47,3600.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/912","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together, right.\nOkay, now, all I'm saying","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3600.16,3602.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/913","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that there's a *gap*\nbetween my realization","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3602.6,3606.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/914","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and what you're saying,\nsometimes;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3606.82,3608.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/915","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sometimes there isn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3608.87,3610.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/916","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nSure, sure. Possibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3610.14,3612.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/917","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what is now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3615.06,3616.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/918","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughs]\nWhat *is* now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3616.56,3620.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/919","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Well, that's what\nI'm here to find out;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756#t=3620.54,3622.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76115/file/162756/transcript/39430/annotation/920","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what is 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