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Briefly describes his background in Tibet and at Oxford. Publication of MEDITATION IN ACTION brought him to America, where he found atmosphere open and receptive. Explains students studying Tibetan Buddhism focus on meditation practice, but also on intellectual understanding. Naropa Institute not \"Buddhist\", but founded on Buddhist principles; open to other disciplines. Defines \"the spiritual experience\" as combination of gentleness and non-aggression, seeing through ego. Views his teaching situation in America as similar to that in Tibet.  Says that world of psychology had a role in bringing Buddhism to America. The existing \"spiritual supermarket\" in America he sees as causing confusion, \"spiritual materialism.\" Naropa Institute experience is \"slowing down\", with meditation a chance to look at oneself. Says that his teaching style focuses on \"long-term plan\", with his work -- including contribution of Naropa -- to be accomplished in 100 years."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Aug 17 2021 to Nov 27 2021 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Interview with Chogyam Trungpa one year after founding of Naropa Institute, focused on teaching in America and his vision for Naropa.  Briefly describes his background in Tibet and at Oxford. Publication of MEDITATION IN ACTION brought him to America, where he found atmosphere open and receptive. Explains students studying Tibetan Buddhism focus on meditation practice, but also on intellectual understanding. Naropa Institute not \"Buddhist\", but founded on Buddhist principles; open to other disciplines. Defines \"the spiritual experience\" as combination of gentleness and non-aggression, seeing through ego. Views his teaching situation in America as similar to that in Tibet.  Says that world of psychology had a role in bringing Buddhism to America. The existing \"spiritual supermarket\" in America he sees as causing confusion, \"spiritual materialism.\" Naropa Institute experience is \"slowing down\", with meditation a chance to look at oneself. Says that his teaching style focuses on \"long-term plan\", with his work -- including contribution of Naropa -- to be accomplished in 100 years."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche in an interview conducted by Max Weizic at Naropa Institute, as a part of The Open Secret Series. The interview took place in the summer of 1975, although the precise date is unknown. This is a CTI auto remaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: This is Open Secret, a series of discussions recorded at the Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado. I'm Max Weizic, and with me today is Jim Falconer, and we're talking to Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, the President and Founder of Naropa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=27.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: I'd like to begin just by asking you a bit about your background. About first of all how you came to the United States, and how you came to found Naropa, how the whole thing began?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's somewhat rather difficult to go through the whole thing but maybe I would like to just make a brief-- actually there's a book, my autobiography is written called BORN IN TIBET, if people are interested in finding more about my background. And I was born in east Tibet, which is close to Chinese border part of Tibet. And raised as an abbot of a series of monasteries. And at the age of nineteen, I left my country, because of Communist Chinese takeover. And I spent a certain amount of time in India, and then I came to England and studied at Oxford University. And also I founded a meditation center in Scotland called Samye Ling. And from there, successive situations led me to come to America, namely publication of my second book, called MEDITATION IN ACTION. And that book has circulated in this country; particularly some of the faculty members in University of Colorado in Boulder, were very interested, and they wanted to invite me over and teach.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd, as I have arrived in this country, I found that the situation is very open and atmosphere is very good for me to work with the Americans, and not only teach in the University of Colorado alone but I decide to settle down in Boulder. And through that situation, lot of students who are studying basically Tibetan Buddhism -- that is to say practice of meditation is basic point. And a number of students begin to gather, and I've been working with them for past four years.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also that at the same time, the practice of meditation seem to need some kind of intellectual understanding of oneself, so to speak, one's mind. That seem to be very important. And also there is educational problems that exist in this country particularly or Western world in general; that there is a lot of rejection of existing discipline, and seeking for new kind of approach to educational world. So we have founded Naropa Institute, and hopefully that that'll help to clarify and elucidate problems of educational system. And Naropa Institute is not particularly a Buddhist one necessarily, although it was founded on Buddhist vision so to speak, but at the same time it is nonsectarian, and we hope to open to any kind of discipline that is valid from the point of view of exploration of oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: What do you mean that you saw the need for intellectual perspective?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is a tremendous tendency to jump into just purely conclusions -- that's been taking place quite recently, among a lot of young people as well as some older people as well, in this country particularly; that everything is experiential and nothing had to be questioned and looked into. And the Western scientific mind has been highly rejected, and regarded as something really ugly and unpleasant. And result of that lot of people turn round, to any kind of discipline of learning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=43.0,297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: How do you view a-- the spiritual experience, if someone has a religious or spiritual experience? What sort of framework does that take?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's basically, put it in very simple, it's a question of some kind of gentleness or nonaggression. And also the idea of non-ego, from the point of view of egomaniac. So if there is those two chemicals, so to speak: the aggressionless-ness and egoless could work together, and then that in itself experience. That doesn't mean to say that you have to necessarily renounce whole thing, and run off to the mountains particularly, but you know, that person can find his own strength and inspiration within his own lifestyle\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: So you're not necessarily trying to dissolve the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in a sense that dissolving ego doesn't seem to be the only project, and the project is sort of see *through* ego. And try to use the certain part of ego which is intelligent, and the certain part of ego is egomaniac so to speak, and then there is a possibility of, you know, comes to terms with the life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=297.0,384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: But, coming to this country, how do you go about teaching what you teach? Is it different from the way in which it was in Scotland, or in Tibet? Is it a whole different of atmosphere? Does it demand new techniques, different approaches?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I will say is somewhat it is different, but on the other hand it's almost-- my lifestyle is almost identical as if I was in Tibet. I will still work in the teaching, and working with the organization, and relating with the people. And I think the basic point is that working with the American students, that the style had to be old-fashioned one in some sense. That you have to go back to the time when the Buddhism was introduced in Tibet in the seventh century, how the Indians introduced Buddhism in Tibet. And so we are, you know, going back, and we are starting the same particular pattern as they have done those days. Which is largely based on the practice of meditation, simple and straightforward, and very little culture. And as you go on, as you develop more and more, and people have greater understanding of meditation practice, and idea of gentleness, and openness, and then slowly, the religious culture part does not become a barrier anymore, it becomes a natural expression of what one has understand. So that seem to be the differences, but not in the sense of boycotting the traditional framework, but traditional framework of earlier stages is, you know, resumed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=384.0,498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: How do you see your role personally, in facilitating this? Do you think of yourself for example as a great teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't know [laughs] about \"great\", but I do think I am a *good* teacher, and also work on administrating, and the whole thing, and that goes pretty well. And particularly that I have no particular person to ask help. And we have our superior or head of our orders, and Dalai Lama and people like that in India, which I have a connections of course, and they know what's happening. But since they are not in this country, and their situation is different than mine, so everything had to be... rely on one's own resourcefulness.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: That's sort of what I mean, is do you see yourself as pretty much isolated from the kind of tradition you're dealing with? Is the situation in America, do you have to sort of make your on rules, build up from the ground up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much. I think everything-- every answer is there. If you look back how you were raised yourself, you know, and how your educational process has been to yourself, in my case, my own case. And if you look back and the style of training that you received, I think that could be always applicable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=498.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: Do you find as a teacher that you have learned certain things in the United States, Western technological sorts of things, or ways of life that you wouldn't have found in Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely. I will say, that-- I mean the all kinds of areas of a lot of the students, a lot of them are well-educated and intelligent people, a lot of students I work with, and there is constant, you know, learning for me. And I don't regard my work as a, you know, dead end, and I'm just \"it's time to give rather than accept.\" And there are a lot of things, you know, I'm learning constantly. And particularly the style and system of thoughts, you know, the Western psychology and the Western art and the Western music, and Western politics and economic approach, and scientific approach, and that kind of thing. And I'm being educated by my own students from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: To pick one specific example out of that list that you just mentioned, have you found that Western psychology has been growing towards your background, the meditational, the Buddhist [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I will say the psychology world is responsible to actually bringing Buddhism to this country in some sense. That people have asked questions about ego, and asked questions about reality and, you know, reference point, and relationships. And although I'm not highly impressed by the Western psychology system and kind of dogma that goes with it, but however, that I think there's a lot of parallel with the Buddhist style approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=587.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Do you think you-- do you see yourself as having any particular kind of style, in terms of your approach to what you're doing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't know exactly what you mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Do you see yourself as-- how do you see yourself as a teacher of Buddhism generally? If you see yourself as that-- as differing from other teachers? Is there a difference there of any sort?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose everybody has to have style--\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: That's what I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --which would be, you know, typical of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: But do you think you have any particular style that you could describe? Or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose my style is to take a long-term plan, and probably my [UNCLEAR: approach? part?] will be accomplished within a hundred years, and I don't particularly wanted to push. And so therefore the studies and practices people are doing are done on a very long-term basis, and that people can't rush. So I'm not in a rush particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: Do you find that that offers some sort of resistance in a place like the United States of America where things move very fast and people expect things to move quick?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well somehow people like it, you know, deep--\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: It's probably a refreshing change.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --yeah, they like it, and somehow-- although of course they constantly ask for entertainment, or further push, or quicker way of doing things. But, you know, if the teacher is persistent enough to tell them to do the same thing again and again, and somehow people begin to settle down and they begin to appreciate a kind of different approach to life somehow. Which is very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=710.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: I think you have a reputation, and I'm not sure what this is founded or not, as -- how should I put it -- being a kind of-- being not ascetic in your approach to things. Define it by-- in negative terms [laughs]. Is that part of a style?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think point is, in my way of looking at things that any mask or any facade that you put on, it doesn't somehow work and help. There had to be some hypocrisy taking place. And so as far as I'm concerned I lead my life in my own way, and there is no point in pretending to be something extremely different. So, I think a lot of cases the choices have been left to the students, rather than I am censoring myself for them.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Do you find there's any sort of difficulty with students, being as open as that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. I think one of the problems is students are not open, and they have their own little projects, you know, their own ambitions, which tend to destroy themselves, but otherwise, you know, there's--\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Well, it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- a kind of mutual communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Has it been difficult for you in terms of people coming to you with certain expectations, and you not fulfilling those expectations. Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I regard that as a great victory in some sense, because the sorting out is done by themselves, rather than I'm saying that, you know, I have to select them or choose them. And of course some people got very disappointed, and sometimes people turn round, after they're disappointed. And some people are very extremely excited and sort of fresh approach. And it depends on, you know, individuals' expectations which seem to be the problematic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=822.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: What is your personal view of the different, well, the different levels of expectations that people have? Some people would prefer to be very cynical towards you and your organization, some people would prefer to be very happy and delighted that it's around, and a whole range in between. How do you view those different levels of reality for people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is some kind of fashionable approach that usually takes place, and speak ill of the organization. And they criticize the president or the government or whatever, you know, that's being kind of fashionable thing, in somehow lately. And people look for all kind of-- impersonally as organization as big body of bureaucrats, and kind of this approach. And some people see through that, and the organization is consist of not only just typewriters and desks but real human beings, and the people begin to join in. And I think either way is workable, as long as people are not speedy.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: You mean as long as they take their time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, definitely. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=944.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Has Naropa had problems thus far -- it's in the second year -- with bureaucracy, with things getting top heavy in that way, as an organization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much. There are little problems obviously, you know, nothing is absolutely smooth, but-- and it has been so far as what I'm expecting-- expected.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: Do you find Naropa is actualizing or realizing the purpose, which I have heard is to create a spark, or *the* sparks with all these different types of things: Western music and psychologists, poets, dancers, meditation sessions. Is it actually working do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think as far as I'm concerned, it's not so much of \"working\" at this point, it's-- whether it is, you know, taking that shape at the beginning. And I'm more concerned about the directions rather than actually, you know, everything is working and purely functional. So as far as the general directions are concerned it is going towards that direction. But we have to maintain ourselves, particularly such as like the financial situation it doesn't want to be governed to the whole situation. Or the accreditation approach should not govern our integrity, and that kind of thing, in dealing with outside world and world of functional, functioning world, you know, pragmatic world. But I think this point, we are taking a right direction. And things being pretty good.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: Has the, just the cumbersomeness of the organization been a problem? Just having a large organization of any kind. Has that worked against do you think what the goals of Naropa are in any way, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, because the organizations are just purely, you know, individuals' post, and the personnels in the Naropa Institute are, you know, they have their little function. So they fill that particular task; if you don't have one person that we appointed there that there will be some chaos. So we try and have to fight the chaos, rather than try to proceed along. So at this point, there's no problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=1020.0,1168.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: I've been wondering about the meditation aspect of your... love of Naropa, I guess. And how you see that as fitting into creativity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well as we were saying early on, that it is time to slow down, that there will be another approach. And also, another point is creativity can be mis-channeled, or there could be destroyed, by some sense of individual ambition to becoming \"Superman.\" And whenever there is that kind of ambition is taking place in a person, that the world is begin to become against you. You know, they begin to demonstrate negative environments. Because the finally, world is attacking you, almost in that sense; that everything is wrong, and everything is a battleground. And meditation is to provide some kind of harmony and gentleness, so that there is-- you don't have to be too aggressive, and the meditation sort of slows down. That doesn't necessarily mean to say meditation practice brings you a state of -- euphoric state of bliss, or anything of that nature. But meditation does actually bring out a lot of hidden neurosis on the surface. And one would get a chance to look at oneself, and a chance to sort of sort out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=1168.0,1285.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: Mhmm. How do you view a person being very individualistic? Are you trying to wed people together into more of a cohesive world unit or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: --do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --yeah that seem to be the final thing, but at the beginning you can't even expect that. And at the beginning that the person have to be cohesive within oneself, to begin with, you know, then so you don't become a nuisance to others to begin with. 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And if I didn't write the book, and nobody ever heard of me; since I wrote the book and people invited so it was a natural situation. But in my intention is generally, I did tend to continue with my work on, you know, if anybody's interested in teaching Buddhism, particularly meditation. But I didn't expect it in such large scale as this, and since situations came up, I took advantage of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=1335.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: You said earlier that you don't see Naropa as being necessarily a Buddhist institute. What kind of relationship do you see between Buddhism and Naropa, or Buddhism and what you're teaching? 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But there are also of course a lot of people begin very genuinely, and on halfway through they begin to find it very confusing, and they have to distort the whole thing, which is always problem I think. Being in particularly in the Western world, of competitive world, you know, if you begin to compete with somebody spiritually or... whatever. That you started as a genuine person and end up as a charlatan, and that's a lot of problems. And also people have misconceptions as well, and it's turned into a spiritual supermarket -- what I call it as \"spiritual materialism\", that it becomes another merchandise in the supermarket, which is always a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: How does one go through a supermarket like that and find what you would consider to be something that's lasting, or not charlatan, in its way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's depends on some kind of honest within oneself. And you could be turned on to a situation, but whether it is a part of your ambition or whether it is part of really what you need. You know, it seem to be based on the people who take the journey, had to be very honest with themselves and not be gullible. And somewhat necessary to be cynical, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nJIM FALCONER: You think there are gullible people at Naropa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure, there are lots of them, sure. [Laughs] But maybe they are getting hardened a little bit now. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=1501.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40441/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX WEIZIC: I think we'll close then. We've been talking to Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, the President and Founder of Naropa Institute in Boulder. You've been listening to Open Secret, a program which originates from Naropa. I'm Max Weizic, and Jim Falconer and I have been talking with Rinpoche.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=47.22,48.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"About first of all how you came\nto the United States,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=48.97,52.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and how you came\nto found 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called","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=72.29,73.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BORN IN TIBET,\nif people are interested","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=73.95,76.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in finding more\nabout my background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=76.19,79.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was born in east Tibet,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593#t=79.74,84.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76098/file/163593/transcript/40442/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is close to Chinese\nborder part of 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