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We bring certain attitudes towards the teachings, based on need for security. Mistaken view of Tibetan Buddhism as being esoteric, but importance of building foundation, giving up speed of searching. Enlightenment as not based on security. Questioning as starting point. Confusion and bewilderment the ground of the path. Meditation as only way to go beyond self-deception, provides space to see ourselves, reality, as they are. Generates trust in ourselves, compassion; we have potential. In Q\u0026amp;A [Q2], what to do when one sees neurotic patterns; [Q8], how long it takes to attain enlightenment; [Q10] [Q15] how to work with ego; [Q16] the role of the guru.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part One: The Myth of Freedom: Fantasy and Reality\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3: Selected Writings: \"The Tibetan Buddhist Teachings and Their Application\" (pp 518-528)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eThe latter article first appeared in the inaugural issue of The Laughing Man magazine (1976). The version reproduced in the article is based mainly on a later version, which appeared in an in-house Vajradhatu periodical called Buddhadharma. The questions and answers are based on the earlier version published in The Laughing Man.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 04 2026 to Mar 04 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBuddhism as focused on the individual, looking at oneself. We bring certain attitudes towards the teachings, based on need for security. Mistaken view of Tibetan Buddhism as being esoteric, but importance of building foundation, giving up speed of searching. Enlightenment as not based on security. Questioning as starting point. Confusion and bewilderment the ground of the path. Meditation as only way to go beyond self-deception, provides space to see ourselves, reality, as they are. Generates trust in ourselves, compassion; we have potential. In Q\u0026amp;A [Q2], what to do when one sees neurotic patterns; [Q8], how long it takes to attain enlightenment; [Q10] [Q15] how to work with ego; [Q16] the role of the guru.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260331-1167548-nd0iz4.mpga"]},"duration":3269.27674,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/306/990/original/open-uri20260331-1167548-nd0iz4.mpga?1774976172","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3269.27674,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720215VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19720215VCTR1 - Public Talk - Los Angeles - Tibetan Buddhist Teachings and their Application]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, single talk entitled \"Tibetan Buddhist Teachings and their Application,\" held in Los Angeles, California at an unknown location. This talk was held February 15th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI remaster made February 2026.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At matter of fact, there's no such thing as Tibetan Buddhism. But it is Buddhist tradition in Tibet that had developed. And Tibetans have practiced and applied to their living situation as well. So from that point of view Buddhism does not belong to the Tibetans, or any other country, any other nation. That the Buddhism belong to *us*, as individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=30.0,82.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before we start idea of application, we have to look into who is applying these. How we're applying that is more important than what's the application, or the gimmick of it. That it is important to look at the background, the attitude. When we listen to speaker, we are gathered and we expect certain ideal, or certain ideas, of the speaker. And because of our need to satisfy our intellect, and our emotions, and get some security by listening and hearing the words of wisdom, that we remold the speaker's words into our own need. And we shape them, reshape them, we manufacture, using the raw material of the speaker's word, into fixed definite situations. So, the result is that we have nothing but ourselves bouncing back on us, constantly. So that seem to be always the problem. That it is very difficult to have an audience who sits in the no-man's-land, and a speaker who also speaks from no-man's-land. It's very difficult, extremely hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=82.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as Buddhism is concerned, that there had been many publications of Buddhist writings, and many practices have done, or have practiced in this country, as well as the Western world at general; for that matter as well as the East. But somehow that basic principles of Buddhism hadn't been understood properly. And generally Tibetan teachings are related with, especially esoteric teachings, mystical ones, the magical ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=195.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that point of view the introduction of Buddhism in this country basically is very confused, or incomplete for that matter. That people would like to build golden roof; they're fascinated by these glories of it. But we haven't considered how to build the foundations. So result is once we begin to get into the practice of it, looking for the golden roof, begin to build the golden roof, that we have nowhere to put, because we haven't considered the foundations. And that kind of a childish approach is very prominent. Simply because we are hungry for knowledge. That we want to get something immediate, something automatic, something quickly, suddenly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=245.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unless that we give up the speed of the urgency, that we are not going to learn anything or absorb anything at all. And it seems basically that we are *so* lazy, that we even don't want to eat the food, but we expect simply just reading the menu will satisfy us. The laziness carries to the extreme case of this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=334.0,373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The process of learning takes time, and learning takes painful measures of all kinds. The learning process is not easy matter. It is not easy matter because that we cannot surrender our basic security. In other word the teaching is not a security. Or the freedom or the nirvana, what you like to call it, is not security, not a security at all. It is absence of all kinds of securities that could exist in existence. Nirvana or the freedom, enlightenment, is the complete absence of any kind of security, any kind of promises. That is to say that we have to give up the tendency to look for solid and serious results, definite magical results, by applying all kinds of gimmicks to manufacture these results. Somehow those psychological or neurotic games doesn't apply anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=373.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there's something extremely positive about our search for learning, nevertheless. Something that we could use as stepping- stone. That is the chaos that exist in our life, the pain that exist in our life, in living situation. The disorder and pain and chaos, pain and chaos that exist in the living situation. Dissatisfaction, hunger, thirst.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=465.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those dissatisfaction, the search for something, and dissatisfied with living situation and psychological pain, is beginning of the teaching. Unless there is pain, there is dissatisfaction, we cannot begin from anywhere at all. Pain is a direct experience of seeing the insecurity, and looking for security, possibly failing to find security. That is glimpse of egolessness, state of absence of ego. We look for something; possibly we may not find it. There's possibilities of failure, possibilities of losing grip, possibilities of not able to manufacture ideal pleasure, pleasurable situation. That is something extremely positive from this point of view. In terms of searching, that everyone begins their journey on the path by experiencing certain dissatisfaction. Something is missing somewhere; frantically looking for it, But at the same time still, as we run faster and faster and faster, we don't discover anything at all. There's constant sense of that you are missing the point somewhere or other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=509.0,626.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you begin to ask questions, \"What is that and what is this?\" And in fact that questions cannot be asked, unless that we have a sense of the answer somehow. That questioning comes from the tendency of asking, the tendency of answer. So one cannot ask any questions unless there is some sense of answer is coming about. How vague or how intuitive it may be, still there is a sense of something is just might be true, something's might be so, therefore \"is this so? is this not true?\" You tend to ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=626.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So questioning whole idea of security and pain and pleasure and everything, spirituality, the validity of spirituality. How efficient will spirituality would be, how magical would be, how pleasurable would be, all these questions that we ask, contains that our ego-centered wishes may not fulfill, and then therefore we ask questions. So next phase seem to be from discovery of pain, that we get into questioning process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=677.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the discovery that we get from questioning process, is that there is something completely mysterious. We run out of questions. Something is completely blank, that even can't think of questions anymore. We are completely bewildered at that point, and one wonders who's fooling who. But if we look and examine it, one does not discover the fooler or the fooling process at all. All dissolves. There is some basic bewilderment takes place. And that basic bewilderment is the ground that we could work on. But again at the same time the basic bewilderment that takes place in the process, also contains not just passive bewilderment alone, but it contains speed, grasping, frantically still looking for some answers. And if one is able to realize and acknowledge, one able to experience, or able to get together with all these experience of basic bewilderment and speed and grasping process that we experience, if we're able to relate with those as they are actually happening, you are not imagining, then we're getting somewhere, at least somewhere. We are starting from somewhere. We are just getting some kind of conclusions of somewhere, whether intellectually or emotionally, what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=715.0,834.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the whole, that we could say the discovery of the confusion is the enlightened state. Having discovered confusion, enlightened state become redundant. Process of discovering the confusion is most important of all; that is the facing the reality, that's the getting beyond that self-deception of all kinds. Whereas if one is purely searching for the glorious, and pleasurable situation, promising land, treasure islands, what have you, that they all become myth, they all add further pain. That we can't get to such treasure islands, we can get to such promising land, we can't actually attain enlightenment. The more you think about enlightenment the more pain that we get, because the frustration of not getting there, makes more confusion in this process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=834.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the Buddhism-- Buddhist tradition, without discrimination of any sect or schools, simultaneously agree, that if we have to begin on the path we have to begin on-- at the beginning. And we can't begin on halfway through, or we can't begin on the dream. But we have to face reality of actual living situation. In fact that's the very interesting process that's happening in this country for instance, that most of people search for something, look for something, because their life situation does not satisfy them. Physically it may be a luxurious situation, but psychological something doesn't satisfy that; therefore we tend to look for some further definite answer of some kind. But again on the process of looking further definite answers, that we are side-tracked by all kinds of seductions, and we begin to lose what we are searching at the beginning. And largely these sidetracks based on exotic practices or techniques, or promises been made. Presenting a golden crutch. That one would wish to be a cripple, because \"then I could use these golden crutches.\" So one becomes so attracted to the method, rather than its actual functional situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=904.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the another process that we go through, is after having discovered the psychological materialism, of looking for ultimate pain, ultimate pleasure, pain becomes also process of occupation, that we don't want to give up pain but pleasure also becomes occupation at same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1010.0,1040.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the process of looking for such intellectual answer, and then we find some kind of answers of something. That by chance we run into a book shop and we happens to buy some books, and just purely by chance that we read them. And all kinds of promises been made on those books. That then we look into the trying to imitate these expressions, trying to become-- trying to practice it, purely just by fascination. And then we begin to grasp the golden crutches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1040.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the beginning because of self-deception, because such will power to be satisfied with what we have discovered, that these promises tend to fulfill its purpose, quite easily, quite simply. And one tend to get all kinds of immediate results. Physical and psychological bliss, visions of all kinds, messages of all kinds, we begin to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1090.0,1128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we proceed along with those achievement, then we go on and on beyond that situation. And sooner or later the rugged quality of life begin to remind us. Sooner or later the graspingness and speed begin to pick us up again, begin to shake us again, and we try to apply, try to suppress, or use these technique as sedatives. Might work first time, second time, but in third time or fourth time, doesn't work anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1128.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we set off again, to look for another possibilities, of getting some other kind of perhaps much more efficient than that -- lasts longer. And then we find something perhaps better. And then we do the same thing. And there's-- those effects begin to wear out as well. And *then* we go to something else. And so we go on and on and on, on this process. And we could spend millions of years by purely shopping for all kinds of answers, all kinds of promises. But that's nothing special. It might take the shape of spirituality but at the same time it is materialistic approach. That we've been doing that for years and years, millions of years; we've been doing that all along. So we are still doing it, hoping that your next discovery is something new. But one wonders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1162.0,1233.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the question of meditation. The practice of meditation is related with those games that we tend to play to ourselves. And also related with self-deception. Actually meditation is the only way that could-- able to relate with those psychological neurosis and self-deceptions. In this case meditation practice doesn't necessarily mean concentrating on objects, or trying to intensify any particular psychic faculties of anything at all. It's just simply creating *a space*. In which you are able to unlearn, undo your subconscious gossips and subconscious, hidden fears and hidden hopes, begin to bring out, able to bring out. So just simply providing space, by simple discipline of sitting down, and just simply do nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1233.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Doing nothing is extremely difficult. But at the same time, at the beginning we try to do nothing by doing nothing, and then gradually develop -- hopefully. So meditation practice is therefore-- is a way of churning out hangups of mind, and using these materials that come out of as part of the practices. As the analogy of manure; that you don't throw away but you use them on your garden, use them as part of resourceful process. You use them, you apply them daily living situations. And by using them, and not rejecting them as bad thing, or indulging into them but by just purely relating with them, then process develops, some stage. That at last we begin to trust ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1320.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having developed some kind of faith and trust in ourselves that what we have is after all not all that bad; it's workable, it's useable. There may be something more in us. Of course we do. It's our world, we also possess, not only ourselves. And one begin to also relate with the world situation as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1411.0,1439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that process of relating with our friends, and the process of relating with our living world situation. Begin to trust the world as well. After all that world is not as bad as we might think, or we thought. There may be something in this world that worth learning. But one cannot just love world, without starting on ourselves to begin with. Because world is our world, and it's question of rejecting rays of the sun or accepting the sun itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1439.0,1486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the general process of-- from this point of view, are meditation is therefore developing ultimate compassion. It is inexhaustible resource. That every life situation begin to teach us something. If we go too fast some incident takes place in our living situation to slow us down. If we're going too slow, somehow or other our living situation begin to push us. So there is a message contains all the time in our living situation. And that message can be understood. To begin with if you begin to realize the resources that we have are positive resources; nothing to do with destructive or sin, or original sin or pain or misery that we have to reject. And that process of learning spontaneously with the living situation seems to be the starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1486.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I do not particularly want to feed the audience any further confusions. That I feel that it is important that since we have this opportunity of studying or talking on the subject of Buddhism that exist in Tibet, and this is the what Buddhism does exist in Tibet. And it is the most practical way of looking at, or most safe way of looking at it is that we have looked into the beginning, how to begin, how to use the stepping- stones in the process of practical world, or begin our spiritual journey. And there may be a lot of people in the audience are extremely advanced, no doubt. But even those advanced people have to begin on the next stage, so they could also be regarded as beginner as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1556.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, beginning at the beginning is most useful thing, all of us. That we are constantly beginning all the time. Since we can't recreate the past, or we cannot invoke the future but we have to live on the present situation of life. And the life constantly begins at the beginning and always fresh. And therefore it has been said: \"the dharma is good at the beginning, dharma is good at the end, dharma is good in middle, and dharma is always up-to-date.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. We could have a discussions now if you like. Questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1621.0,1663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE] had the opportunity to read Arthur Koestler's THE LOTUS AND THE ROBOT?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I was reading [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again -- I'm sorry I didn't catch that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Arthur Koestler, he wrote a book called THE LOTUS AND THE ROBOT. [INAUDIBLE] compare Eastern and Western life, attitudes in one's life. I'm wondering if you would comment on that book, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, I didn't see the book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1663.0,1733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] What is the best thing to do when one observes neurotic patterns of thought?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you put neurosis in the practice, that is also the escape. Whereas if you're trying to suppress them that is also escape. So the process is that just relate with neurosis as in its true nature, its always actual simplicity  as it is. And then one begin to make some progress so to speak. The reason why neurosis has seen as neurosis is because there's a conflict between your neurosis, which is generally formed out of preconceived ideas, or expectations or wishful thinking of all kinds. So there is no such thing as neurosis as a separate thing. But the constituents in neurosis are that of grasping, rejecting, and the process of doing that you are not satisfied with what's happening. And then one begin to distrust the whole thing; that you may lose your grasping, hold on, your footing. So which then tend to bring what's known as neurosis.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo if one's able to see all those mechanistic process of neurosis as it is, then it is tremendous source of learning, so it dissolves by itself, it works by itself, automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1733.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Toward what purpose or purposes [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Toward what purpose or purposes should we live our lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we had been living life with purposes all the time, or aim and object and goal all the time. And that seems to be the problem altogether. That we might look at another area, of purposelessness of the life. Which sound very grim actually. People often ask \"what's meaning of life?\" But if you look for meaning, then you're defeating its purpose. Or if you look for purpose then you're separating yourself from the purpose, you are segregating yourself from the goal. So the life situation should be-- path should be goal, and goal should be path. So from that point of view you could say that the-- there should not be purpose of any kind at all, but just live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1846.0,1924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sir, [INAUDIBLE] Krishnamurti [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say louder. Someone says \"louder.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Krishnamurti was very beautiful person. He's seems like a childlike old man, old baby. [Laughter] And I feel that the conversations we have are not particularly important, particularly at all. That you have heard Krishnamurti several times. Lots of people have hundreds of times. And you also have heard me, numerous times. Somewhat what we have to say wasn't particularly important; it was the seeing his behavior, seeing as he is, as old baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1924.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When the teacher, meditation teacher is giving instructions, is there anything more going on than just the meaning of the words? And if so, what is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's communication going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But besides the meaning of the words.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's a silence between the words. [Laughter] Which make-- enables us to understand the words, punctuation, which is by silence. That is in fact most important form of communication, is to generosity of the silence that each person communicate. That you are not hurrying to speak, hurrying to overpower the student, or control them, but the silence goes between conversations also important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2015.0,2077.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Sir, the [INAUDIBLE] to be Buddha? From my studies [INAUDIBLE], I somehow [INAUDIBLE] that it may not be necessary to spend thirty, forty years, or even a lifetime studying to be Buddha. In fact, if you throw away the golden crutches, you can become Buddha [INAUDIBLE]. I wish you would give me your point of view on this.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think more or less you said it. That trying to become enlightened person is one point of view; therefore enlightened state had to be *all* point of view. So if you are trying to become enlightened being or Buddha, is defeating your purpose altogether. That you are just purely looking for the totality from inadequate means. So therefore, like in the Buddhist tradition of that we have the taking bodhisattva vow is to give up the idea of attaining enlightenment after-- until all sentient beings have been saved, for instance. Is to giving up the notion of that *I* want to attain enlightenment. That you are the this end and the enlightenment is at the other end, which automatically makes two polarities; that you're already separating yourself from Buddha. So in order to become Buddha, is that you have either give up the idea of Buddha or idea-- either have to give up idea of you. [Laughter] And both are preferable, both mean same thing, from that point of view. You could start from both ends.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE]. What I meant to aspire to is that by giving up the idea of enlightenment, and by the idea-- giving up the idea of becoming this or becoming that, or being this or being that, that I just *be*. You thereby *are* Buddha. And I want to know whether the process takes as long as some schools would you like to make us believe so? That is the [INAUDIBLE] question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a question of how much you regard the whole practice as formal, or big deal. More you make a big deal out of the practice, that that much the journey becomes slower. It's purely up to us. There are-- people can enlighten-- in enlightened understanding, by sudden [INAUDIBLE]. But some people takes eons and eons. That it is how much the whole process is regarded as a ritualistic process, ceremonial precious one, or how much it is identified with our own basic being. This whole question is that-- in other word if there is a fundamental trust, that we *are* Buddha actually. Not a question we might be one, but we *are* Buddha. That kind of positive thinking is necessary. Which has nothing to do with arrogant, or pride in the conventional sense, but it is actual true belief, true positive thinking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2077.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Sir, does egolessness involve [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Egolessness involve [INAUDIBLE] one's self-respect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Egolessness without--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Egolessness. Self-respect. Hmm. Usually the ego doesn't respect itself; that's common knowledge. And tend to hate itself, so there's no such thing as self-respect as far as ego is concerned. Because the whole attitude is terror and fear, of losing something; you're missing something all the time. So if you like to look at from that way is that egolessness the only self-respect attitude that we could have. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2364.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you think there's anything valuable [INAUDIBLE] in terms of studying [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a very broad subject actually. We cannot make generalization of the literature of psychological practices that involved in the West as whole, but each psychiatrist and psychologist have their own understanding, and their own way of relating with mind, as well as their own development. And quite modern psychologist and psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, work with the practice of meditation themselves, and therefore their work becomes very enlightening, with dealing with their patients as well. But there is one of the basic problems that involve with the whole thing, is that if you begin to use the pure analogy or pure analyst-- analytical mind, analyzing the whole case history alone, without any human contact with the patient, then whole thing becomes like as though you're been put in a microscope and examined. That very mechanistic approach, that although-- almost as similar to say that you have no hope, because your past is fucked up, therefore you have no hope in the present. And somehow that process becomes very uncompassionate in some sense, if there's no human connection, or the trust in the nowness of the-- on the human dignity so to speak. Of the person's neurosis of the time, as far as the patient is concerned, is also worthy of respect a great deal. Because person must be getting through somewhere, from somewhere, otherwise they don't have psychological breakdowns. Unless they are into some process of getting into or getting out of somewhere. So basically that if any compassionate work is done from that angle, I think generally it's very good. But in itself in the situation of detail, of different natures of psychologists and their works we cannot make general statement; had to be individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2440.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: A little broader [INAUDIBLE], I would like to know whether or not you feel that the freedom that you talked about, that state of nirvana, is it only as a result of meditation? I mean, he talked about psychiatry. I happen to [INAUDIBLE]. Aren't there a number of [INAUDIBLE] that in equal [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we could say--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On one hand you could say that meditation is the only way. But on the other hand we could say there are also different types of meditation, which might relate with meditation in action. But it is saying the same thing, that whatever we do that we cannot regard one method or one application is sacred than the others, at all. It is depends on *how* we do it, and if we know the style of applying to the situation becomes a balanced situation. In other word egoless way of conducting the whole thing. Then any means could be said as path, dharma.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] freedom from ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Freedom from--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Freedom or nirvana [INAUDIBLE] different kind [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't follow you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --anybody else here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Freedom, what did he say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Freedom from--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No, freedom for anybody, given [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, that's very interesting point. You cannot have \"you\" without the others; otherwise there is no point of reference. So if you are free from you, then you'll be free from the others. Whereas if you're trying to free the others with you in its way, then it becomes very unbalanced. So you have to start from the beginning, as I said already, I mentioned already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2615.0,2756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE] everyday life, in one one questions the equal [INAUDIBLE] and one suffers [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One suffers in--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Everyday life. One suffers from somebody thinks that they are [INAUDIBLE] if things won't last, or whatever, one suffers then [INAUDIBLE] question in life [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, from that point of view there's no differences between mundane life and domestic life to the spiritual, because your mundane and domestic life *is* spiritual thing. That all your pain is psychosomatic pain. Either it is-- you have a problem with your kid or you have a problem with your pets or whether you have a problem with your landlord or whatever it is. It is psychosomatic problem. And it is related with that *you* are there, therefore these problems does exist; otherwise the problems wouldn't be there if you are not there. But one cannot look for the simple solution of suiciding yourself. And that doesn't solve the problem at all, because you still need a killer to kill yourself, fundamentally speaking. You cannot really destroy yourself completely. Because then one would like to watch oneself die as well as at the same time make sure that whole job is perfect job. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the whole process that without \"you\" these problems wouldn't arise, or *because* of you these problems does exist; therefore you are very fertile person, to deal these situations. [Laughs] That is the practice of the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2756.0,2887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE]. And I see that the-- I see pain as [UNCLEAR: a great tool?] [INAUDIBLE] for the ego, that keeps... The thing is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You feeling a need to have ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: My life would change. I feel a great deal of [INAUDIBLE], to myself [INAUDIBLE] and I have a feeling, or what you said about [INAUDIBLE]. It would seem that in that there would be need to be a price [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, on the whole we don't regard ego as a villain at all. Without ego, or without problems of the ego, as I already mentioned, our enlightened state become redundant. Without samsara, nirvana is redundant. And we use ego as a stepping stone constantly, as wearing out of shoe. That we use ego, we trod on it, we work with it. Of course you do need ego at the beginning as a stepping stone; that's very important. And we do not particularly want to look at the ego as something that we should throw away, or we should abandon it. Otherwise we-- I mean we can't do that, we can't even *begin* to do that, because that which begins to do that is also ego. So we can't-- so therefore we are at-- starting point is not abandon ego as bad and villain, but start with the ego and go along with it, and wear itself out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=2887.0,3033.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, one can read one set of experts that says that the guru of human form is necessary. Then you can also read just as many on the other side who say you don't need a guru. And they have their points though, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Guru is not regarded as a master, or professor, or big brother. But guru is regarded as friend, to whom that you can communicate, to whom that you can share the experiences together, to related with that person. Which is necessary at the beginning, because otherwise we can't-- we can get into all kinds of fantasies of that, \"I have received a message, therefore what I am doing is right.\" We can manipulize [sic] ourselves by using self-deception in all kinds of way. So human situation needed at the beginning. But then at some stage you begin to-- at the beginning of course you find that's very difficult to surrender. And having surrendered to such friend, and trust, and then you begin to find with too easy, too comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn fact there are several stages. That at the beginning you surrender, you decide to make decision of that person is your friend. And then after that you begin to feel rather self-conscious. That, \"He might know what you think. And he is watching me all the time, in some sense, like mirror-like reflection. If I present myself as a confused person, he might tell *me* how I'm confused; I don't want to hear such message. I don't want to be pointed out.\" And all kinds of things goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd some stage then you begin to give up that pride, and begin to *really* communicate as really good friend. And then communication takes place *ideally*. And on that particular process then some stage one begin to become extremely comfortable; that you don't have to do anything for yourself, but just go to that friend and friend tells you exactly what to do. So whole thing becomes very automatic, efficient service.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd at that point that usually what happens is that, either physical situation of the guru or psychological situation of the guru becomes distant, that you're being forced to work on yourself. And then you begin to relate with the guru as a living situation, that everything what happens with your life becomes also part of guru. So guru is everywhere. That inner guru begin to awake.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo you might say that's the point of a spiritual friend and the guru. That spiritual friend is the human person, and the guru is the inner one, which wakes up situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=3033.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92454/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And we might have to close our meeting tonight. And hope to see you again. Thank you for being very patient. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=3240.0,3269.27674"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92455","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720215VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92455/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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We could have\na discussions now if you like.\nQuestions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1658.85,1693.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92455/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]\nhad the opportunity to read\nArthur Koestler's THE LOTUS\nAND THE ROBOT?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990#t=1693.96,1701.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168769/file/306990/transcript/92455/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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