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Describes how confused emotions and wisdom are actually very close. Two buddha families introduced, describing both enlightened and confused aspects. Ratna family, represented by Ratnasambhava, is wisdom of equanimity, equality, richness, giving without trying to maintain oneself. Confused aspect is pride, trying to maintain self by enriching, expanding. Padma, represented by Amitabha, is discriminating awareness wisdom, seeing and discriminating things as they are, through compassion, with action being compassion and magnetizing.  Confused aspect is desire, passion, grasping, in effort to maintain oneself.   In Q\u0026amp;A, further explains the root and styles of bewilderment, how they related with the buddha families."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 31 2020 to Mar 20 2022\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Julia McKaig\nFinal Proof: Ella Milligan\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Connects the five buddha family principles with different emotions, with each using bewilderment in different way to maintain sense of self. Describes how confused emotions and wisdom are actually very close. Two buddha families introduced, describing both enlightened and confused aspects. Ratna family, represented by Ratnasambhava, is wisdom of equanimity, equality, richness, giving without trying to maintain oneself. Confused aspect is pride, trying to maintain self by enriching, expanding. Padma, represented by Amitabha, is discriminating awareness wisdom, seeing and discriminating things as they are, through compassion, with action being compassion and magnetizing.  Confused aspect is desire, passion, grasping, in effort to maintain oneself.   In Q\u0026amp;A, further explains the root and styles of bewilderment, how they related with the buddha families."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/799/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754163626","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754163608_19711107vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":2795.41963,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/799/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754163626","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/799/original/1754163608_19711107vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1754163609","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2795.41963,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711107VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711107VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boston - Mandala of the Five Buddha Families - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Mandala of the Five Buddha Families, given in Boston, Massachusetts. This is talk three, Ratna and Padma Families, recorded November 7th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made June 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar at East-West in Boston, Mandala of the Five Buddha Families, third lecture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --this afternoon, that we seem to be-- *we seem to be* [laughter] speeding to know what's next. And I think it is important to know that all this process of basic quality of wisdom and basic qualities of the emotions that is been described, in terms of the emotions that we've described here, contains certain qualities of bewilderment, not knowing what you are. At the same time it involves basic qualities of trying to maintain that bewilderment of-- to be something. And at the same time there's aggression which involves with that emotions, that you're willing to fight *forever* to maintain what your existence are. So, from that point of view, that it seem that the process of that involvement of emotions and wisdoms are very close. That there is a basic pattern of emotions of their lazy quality, their yielding quality of trying to maintain their basic qualities as they are. And the wisdom quality of that emotions are not be accepted because there is fundamental intuitive, intellectual intelligence, sparking element, popping up all the time to set chaos. That your comforting situation is not after all that-- that all that as been expected, is not all that comforting situation. And that seem to be the basic point that we should relate to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=41.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next situation that we relate to it is, as we stopped this afternoon's session, that we relate to it is terms of Ratnasambhava, the ratna quality of experience. Ratnasambhava is traditionally yellow in color, gold in color, with adornments of other bodhisattvas that we described today, [UNCLEAR: let alone?]. Sits majestically in his lotus posture, sitting on a seat of elephants. Throne is supported by elephants; traditionally described as eighteen elephants, supports his throne. Disregard their trunk and disregard their irritation. [Laughter] Elephants sit -- patient elephants. [Laughter] Well-trained them. [Laughter] And his posture is that of meditation posture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=215.0,378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In his left hand-- in his right that of earth witness, which represents meditation, also should be related with witnessing the earth as it is, which is basic quality of ratna; ratna principle is associated with the earth, that you relate with earth. But his posture of relate with earth is different. Ratna of this has been described in the traditional that of giving. He touches earth but he gives at the same time. He doesn't try to maintain himself as such. It's a meditative approach of touching the earth and giving at the same time. And that buddha enjoys being definite, as far to say that sitting on elephant seat. Elephant doesn't rush. Takes very slowly each step, one-by-one, plop, plop, plop. [Laughter] And the bodhisattva or the buddha relate with earth at the same time, which in other way of looking at relating with earth, very gentle, very precise. So, there's a tremendous feeling of earth and definite. Nothing is frivolous, speeding, at all. Whole thing is slow walking process and touched with earth and definite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=378.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That definite approach is related with that particular principle of buddha experience of ratna family also inspires richness. Rich in the sense of-- rich in sense of food, sense of richness gathering. Any kind of food that one is would like to experience oneself in terms of dream -- ice cream, steaks, whatever you like to have. Extremely rich terms of food. But at the same time that richness also confirms that basic quality of the openness to receive that food, receive that wealth, that receive that particular generosity of consuming such food. And therefore basic quality of buddha nature or that particular area is referred as being wisdom of equanimity, *equal*nimity, equality. That whatever is there is related with the texture of feelings, whatever is may be is related with same; same process. Whatever you experience -- you experience a beautiful steak or whether you experience a dog shit -- equally juicy [laughter] and beautiful, rich in other word. Equanimity. The richness of everything. The richness of dog shit or richness of your meal are being the same. Equally rich. Extremely rich and precise. No doubt about that. Because you experience the fumes that put out by all this food and dog shit, [laughter] that fume that it-- that put out is related with *equanimity* of experience of environment of the psyche. That situation is put out altogether. Equanimity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=526.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pride is associated with that. Because if you relate with maintaining yourself as what you are, to the one area -- that you don't like dog shits, you like foods, steaks, and ice creams -- then you're being biased. Therefore you look down upon the dog shit as something impure and terrible, dreadful, and you relate yourself with that which is delicious, tasteful, sweet or sour, whatever is it may be. That kind of separation creates the pride of maintaining oneself, try to maintain oneself. So it's pride against wisdom of equality. Seem to be basic point. That we are relating with that particular situation of Ratnasambhava who holds a jewel-- wish-fulfilling jewel in his hand, flaming jewel. That you don't have to ask for the fulfillment of what you want, but at the point of you're seeing that flaming jewel radiates, that wish is already granted, fulfillment is already granted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=715.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next situation that we involved that process is passion, desire, of Amitabha, who's red in color. He holds a lotus in his hand in his meditative posture. This meditative posture of mudra is could be regarded as deceitful in the ordinary sense. You're meditating peacefully in that posture, but it's radiating as your hand is been open, allowing all sorts of situations to accentuate the passion. It's a gesture of giving and open in its deceitful sense, in the ordinary sense, as we look. Opening gesture. [Laughs] [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter] Meditation posture is a symbol of human beings, and human beings are automatically regarded as realm of passion, realm of deceitful, pleasurable situations. That human beings are automatically drawn to pleasure, opposed to realm of asuras are related with envy, fighting. From that point of view, realm of hungry ghost are related with demanding-ness and possessing. But you-- realm of human beings is related with passion terms of drawing, receiving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=837.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Amitabha is red in color, with his meditative posture holds a lotus in his hand. Symbolism of lotus is that lotus is usually grown in what is dirty and muddy situations, swampy situations, but it grows pure and bright and brilliant, spotless. [Laughs] That's symbol of lotus, because it is growing in the dirt therefore it is spotless. Transcends spot altogether because it is grown up from that way. It doesn't mean to say that we grown up into a conventional society therefore we become spotless out of convention. \"We should be in revolutionary. We should be outrageously-- we should kill our parents, because they involve with that dirty situation. We should grown up spotless.\" Be careful about that. [Laughter] That that kind of spotless of grown up is basically therefore revolutionary process. Holding lotus, Amitabha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1010.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he manifested in terms of wisdom is wisdom of discriminative awareness wisdom, discriminating wisdom, which means compassionate wisdom. The other aspect of the imperfection that relate with that is passion. Passion in terms of fail to see the \"me\" and \"my\" relationship to situation as it is. And discriminating awareness wisdom really play important part, because when you begin to relate with your boyfriend or girlfriend, or when you begin to relate with your another of your situations, whatever is may be, we just look up on as breathtaking situation, something overwhelming, something far out. [Laughter] That far out situation is breathtaking, but that far out situation is also equally confusing, bewilderment. Deludes us into bewilderment that we do not know where *we* stand as ourselves, or whether would the situation stand as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1116.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That whole situation has been all completely extraordinarily confused. One is not quite certain how to relate with your projections at all because you are utterly confused, shockingly confused, awfully confused. One is not quite certain whether \"we\" or whether \"they\" as they are, or whether we as what we are, at all. Passion has the quality of reducing ourselves into darkness, absolute darkness. Because one is so ex-- because one is so intoxicated into that particular bewilderment process of passion, absolutely, fundamentally, one would fail to see the open gesture of Amitabha holding lotus in his hand and red in color. And there's also the idea of discriminate awareness wisdom which is that passion is could be seen as definite situations as it is, purely, precisely. That \"my\" relationship with \"that\", \"that\" relationship to \"me\". That you do-- you receive panoramic passion-- pattern of passion as it is. But at the same time that because it is so panoramic therefore you see the details as it is; wisdom of discriminate awareness wisdom develops as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1210.0,1352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that whole process of emotions that involved is largely blinded or simple-minded. That the wisdom of equanimity of being seen as one which could also accommodate wisdom of being discriminate awareness as well at the same time as well as all-pervading wisdom. That pattern of wisdom seem to-- doesn't seem to be particular contradictory in this particular point at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1352.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The passion of padma family of Amitabha is related with sensual, seductive, sexual, but at the same time seeing precisely as things as they are. If it is sexual or if it is particularly sensual, seeing things as they are precisely, properly, without any misunderstandings, direct and deliberately. So that quality of the padma family could be said is that of magnetizing, a sense of inviting situation. That nobody has been put off, but there's sense of invitation with the implication of seducing you into it at the same time. The invitation is so elaborate and so beautiful that one wonders whether it is invitation in terms of seducing you into it or whether this is invitation, terms of accepting you into the whole process without implication of passion. [Laughter] Should watch to that. But at the same time, the quality of padma is also discriminating at the same time. It just doesn't trying to seduce any old situations of any kind, doesn't try to grasp or hold onto a rotten egg [laughter] -- because discriminating awareness wisdom plays important part in that. In other word, whole thing is not hungry, not thirst, you know in terms of acceptance, but it's very dis-- particularly described in sense of individual process of relating with precise situation of things as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we could stop there, that particular discussion. And nex-- tomorrow we discuss the karma family and also implication of that. Could we have a discussion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1412.0,1648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What's-- what it is like-- when you say the padma family, does that mean the lotus that the Amitabha has, that family? Padma family?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lotus on top of us, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say about lotus?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh. When you said-- you said the pad-- I thought you said the padma family. What does that mean? That's what I was trying to connect with lotus, like Amitabha--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it is lotus.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The padma family is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Symbolism of lotus.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --connected with Amitabha?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Amitabha, yeah -- or any flowers. Particular any particular flowers that grown in swamp.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But when you say \"padma families,\" that means what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Family. That your particular type of archetypal situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1648.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How do you relate the two types of wisdoms that you just expounded on, the sort of equanimity type of wisdom and the discriminating type of wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well you don't really discriminate them, you regard them as same. The-- when you have discriminating awareness wisdom, that automatically means equality, wisdom of equanimity, *because* you have discriminating awareness wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I mean, you could sort of equally discriminate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as equally... whatever it's may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1710.0,1754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, what's the difference between spontaneous and impulsive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spontaneity and...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Being spontaneous and being impulsive? Like action?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spontaneous...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impulsive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spontaneous and being impulsive, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's the difference?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Actually, same -- from the exterior. But spontaneous just happen; impulse are panics. And impulse situation is always related with maintaining something or panicking situation, seem to happen constantly. And interesting that word \"pan\", \"panic\", is related with -- according to the mythology -- related with mythological story of Pan. Pan creates the panic. Once you've been possessed by Pan that you pan*ic*. [Laughter] It's some sense of possession. You feel you be captivated by something, but you don't know quite certain how you be-- should be captivated. Therefore you regard yourself as a virgin, that you should not be forced by that situation. And you're trying to preserve your virginity in terms of panic and trying to ward off anything which is anti-virginity.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1754.0,1907.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You've been talking about energy moving into a space, and when it occupies that space, it forms matter. And, matter is time dependent. Energy moving, any form or sort, is time dependent. So would it seem logical why time would be essentially anti-energy, if matter is anti-space? Or either way??\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There's-- there's a relativity between the two of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know, yeah. But when you have energy, that *is* matter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't have just pure energy without matter, without space. You can't have pure space without energy, because there's nothing proves there's energy as such at relate-- in relation with the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How does time fit into the picture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The lubrication [laughter] where the exchange takes place. Obvious. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=1907.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any questions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When you were up there and we were discussing, we couldn't come up with an answer, whether or not this realm where these buddhas reside, is it just an ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Buddhists do design? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Where they reside, where they hang out, or wherever they're, you know, sitting on their elephants and all. Is this-- since there's form, is there ego involved at that point too? [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry. I didn't follow what you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, Fran says there is a state of consciousness where--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who says? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Fran.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did she say? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That there's a state where-- of being where one can perceive this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: She says what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you want to say what she said? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: She says--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If one meet-- when one-- she says it is possible to actually meet these-- the members of the buddha families in their-- in their kaya [INAUDIBLE]. And the question arose, is there-- is that particular state ego-free? I mean are we dealing with an ego identity at that point or is it just principle that is symbolized by the form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean you could perceive different kayas without ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah. 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That you have your basic societies and your basic habitual pattern of your own society, being American, but in order to enjoy more confusion and misunderstanding you invite Tibetans or Japanese for your dinner [laughter] so that you have more juicy materials to get confused -- without inviting the interpreters of course. [Laughter] And you get richer and richer from that point of view. It seems that what happens with those situations, people want adventure into foreign countries and purely enjoy the non-communicative and mysterious quality of it. That's regarded as exotic quality and something that you could tell when you come back into your own homeland, \"How mysterious it was, how beautiful it was, how non-communicative was, how exotic it was\" -- because it's non-communicative, because that we can't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=2393.0,2644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there something you're ever angry about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Angry over?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. [Laughter] When things are not chaotic enough, [laughter] say the least.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When things are not what? Clear?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Chaotic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=2644.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What is the deceit of the Amitabha? How does that work? I didn't understand that, when you talked about it. Is it the deceit of humans?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well deceitful in the sense of doesn't want to acknowledge the passion as it is, properly, as much as you could or you would. And acknowledge-- not acknowledging the discriminating process as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So like self-deceit? Like deceiving yourself, like that kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, as well as your projections.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why do we do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodness knows! [Laughter] Very mysterious. I think you can-- the only good answer by first-hand account, which means by yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=2708.0,2783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82185/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that night is getting older and older. Shall we relieve it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yes, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could stop there.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799#t=2783.0,2795.41963"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82186","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711107VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154700/file/283799/transcript/82186/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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