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Begins with brief discussion of the necessity of a teacher versus student-led programs. First stage, hinayana, is initiated by dissatisfaction and questions about suffering. Meditation practice, or shamatha, as a way of understanding and relating with passion, aggression, and ignorance. Second stage, mahayana, shamatha expands to vipashyana, or awareness practice, which allows for the experience of shunyata. The union of shamatha and vipashyana leads to applying the six paramitas and overcoming the dualistic barrier which divides one from their projections. Third stage, vajrayana, is a precise, panoramic vision of life.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 16 2021 to Dec 20 2021 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSubject is three-yana principle (hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana) as the inseparable stages of development in understanding the dharma. Begins with brief discussion of the necessity of a teacher versus student-led programs. First stage, hinayana, is initiated by dissatisfaction and questions about suffering. Meditation practice, or shamatha, as a way of understanding and relating with passion, aggression, and ignorance. Second stage, mahayana, shamatha expands to vipashyana, or awareness practice, which allows for the experience of shunyata. The union of shamatha and vipashyana leads to applying the six paramitas and overcoming the dualistic barrier which divides one from their projections. Third stage, vajrayana, is a precise, panoramic vision of life.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/212/152/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699212829","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1699212811_19711009VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4852.12225,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/212/152/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699212829","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/212/152/original/1699212811_19711009VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1699212814","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4852.12225,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711009VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711009VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Montreal - Passion and Aggression - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled \"Passion and Aggression,\" given in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. This is Talk Two, given on October 9th, 1971. This is a CTI Auto-Remaster made October 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Passion and Aggression, held in Montreal in October, 1971. This will be talk number two, October 9th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is everybody here?\r\n\r\n\r\nAny discussion that come up with this afternoon, that we have to relate to it before we get into next talk?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE] a question about the value of groups of people meeting with-- for beginners without a teacher present. Is there any value in exchanging-- with other people exchanging opinions and ideas and experiences? There seems to be a [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that teachers cannot be like their shadows. And it seems necessary to have some process of being them individual as well as independent, and it seem to be extremely necessary to learn this particular lesson that they could be individual and independent and function individually and not going beyond their limitation of abilities. Of course there will be some necessary that teachers would have to keep eye on development of the students, but apart from that I think it's extremely healthy that if there is some independent effort has been made on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Would there not be dangers in certain-- in students who are not-- who are still at a beginning stage where they have just begun practice, to have a free discussion about--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I can't really-- what are you saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: For beginning students who are at a stage where they have no concrete knowledge of the dharma, of experience, knowledge -- can there not be dangers in having free discussion about such a subject as the dharma with other people who are not yet themselves that well-versed in the dharma? Can there be danger of confusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=41.0,207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that at the beginning they come together already with such conviction and taking step towards involvement in dharma already. As long as that there is some humbleness in their part that what they are discussing, what they working together, is relate to the problems of their life. And I don't see any problem, particularly if they see whole thing in terms of suffering and relate with their pain and psychological pressure that is connected with the pain. It seem to be quite obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes, but then doesn't that also involve that what you speak about has to be something that you've actually experienced rather than talking about ideals?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=207.0,255.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that seem to happen in any case that with us. That lot of people tend to teach without authority of the actual transmission of teaching anyway. And somewhat the involvement with their work in terms of personal relationship of the teaching seem to be very, very good, very good starting point. In fact the whole movement of Buddhist tradition in the West had developed that way somehow. That there is some individual effort is be made in order to invite or in order to provide welcoming preparation background for the teachers to be received. So we prepared a lot of people in the West, prepared that ground in order to receive teachers and somehow it's further process of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But I see that there's value in preparing even to have contact with teachers who themselves are not well-versed, but at least have-- are preparing to-- for future teachers to come over, for other teachers to come over like you said about the Buddhists coming over to America. But for people who already have begun practice, is there a need for-- it's-- isn't it sort of like retrogressing and going backwards to speak with people? I mean if you have a good teacher and you know-- and you have faith in his teaching, isn't it retrogressing to have discussion with people less qualified at this point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in fact that be more helpful because they begin to see where they were, in some stage. It will be good to see their underdeveloped situation where they were. And they don't have to particularly look down upon them as miserable souls, but they could look down as they were begun-- as they were beginners. There were some kind of social and spiritual application of where they begun. So whole thing becomes very personal as they were-- where they were before they begun. And in fact people of that particular group will be able to help them more because they have identified with themselves. Like somebody-- a lot of people come out of New York City, for instance, and able to develop practices stepping out of that particular chaos. And if some-- if you met somebody who already are in that particular scene, they could understand New York City, they could understand the chaos that arounds it. That they would be-- they will have more understanding of it, some more personal relationships to it, and somehow whole thing becomes more realistic. They don't have to particularly defend themselves. And if they have to defend themselves then that means they have some doubts in their-- when they practice. Which they feel the possibilities of polluting their particular practice or providing some doubts which means they are not really in it, properly, completely. If they are in it completely they wouldn't have any doubts, they wouldn't have any fear about that whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=255.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we might begin on our next session that has been already request and suggest in terms of working on the three yana principle. That in the case of three stages of development in the understanding of the dharma, is based on trying to find basic ground where they are which is starting on the first stage of hinayana. And that seems to be one of the fundamental principles which is like providing foundation or background on their development which is hinayana. And \"hinayana\" literally means \"lesser vehicle\" or \"small vehicle\". And that stage of hinayana is largely based on the very literal and direct and very narrow-minded scale of dealing with individual problems on the way to understanding of dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=462.0,549.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole thing begins from their dissatisfaction to life. And the people never come to understand dharma or look forward to it or come to hear the teaching of dharma in anyway unless there is some dissatisfaction, some pain, that consist with their basic lifestyle. And that basic lifestyle of pain and misery and confusion starts from \"duhkha\" or \"suffering\". And within the working of that particular realm of suffering, that suffering provides a lot of questions. That questions of \"who's suffering?\" and \"what is suffering is?\", \"what is the basis of suffering?\". And as well as that person would have a lot of questions. These questions are regarded as embryonic questions. That the questions cannot exist as it is without some basic suspicion of there will be some answer to it. And so whole process begins from that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=549.0,622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the origin or the source of that pain. That particular pain comes from a fundamental struggle which is based on paranoia, fear of grasping or rejecting or bewilderment, which is fundamentally what's whole source is that, as we discussed this morning, there is a constant struggle for that. And whole thing becomes very obvious in that particular point of that there is grasping and there is struggle and there is confusion, which is the source of suffering of \"three poisons\" as described in the Buddhist tradition, [speaking Pali] \"lobha\", \"dosa\", \"moha\" -- \"passion\", \"aggression\", \"ignorance\" -- had developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=622.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And having seen that is the source of passion, aggression, and ignorance, then next stage that one tend to develop is cessation of all those, origin or the basic ground, passion, aggression, and ignorance. In order to pacify them, that there is also pattern that is some technique or practice which is based on eightfold path or some basis on a certain, particular mode of behavior in relating with them. And in order to relate with that situation, one have to relate purely into psychological state of one's whole being. And obvious technique or practice is immediately present the basic practice of meditation which is working on this basic root of all the pain and misery. And you be introduced certain techniques and practices of meditation to see the basis of pain as it is, basis of confusion as it is. Realize that basis of confusion as it is, then person will get into further understanding of the dharma or the teaching as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=696.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there's some confusion of that particular thing which is based on the discipline. Discipline in this case is purely related with simplifying everything -- except there's three conclusion that we come to. And that three conclusions that we come to is simplifying way of looking at. And there is certain techniques are associated with that, such as like practice of meditation in terms of relating with one's own breathing and walking and other things, to see there simplifying mind process into that basic quality as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=791.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same time that person may not be able to relate that, as it is, as such, but there will be some confusions between that process and particular practice that they are into -- if teacher instruct them into certain, particular technique or practice, how they relate with their teaching or technique. That whole thing is not particularly based on a fight against lobha, dosa, moha, as such. As it had be described in many sutras and teachings that fighting provides more aggression. If they're able to relate with as it is as simple, causal characteristic which is based on a concept of twelve \"nidana\", which is the twelve chain reaction of a causal characteristics of life situation, that somehow fighting doesn't particularly make importance in it. It's basically involving and seeing the process as it is and having kind of psychological portrait of themselves and understanding it. And a person would be led into centralizing in terms of technique or practice, what they into. Their technique and practice becomes extremely simple one and literal one, direct one, which cuts the further confusions or further possible exits that they might be suggested.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=840.0,957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that point, the basic discipline to the practice as it is, is been expanded into beyond pure ritualized discipline, but more of what's called vipashyana practice. \"Vipashyana\" means \"insight\". And as Buddha said that peace of mind by shamatha, of subduing your aggression, of discovering origin of your desire, must be accompanied by clear perception of insight of vipashyana, otherwise there's no way -- that it's same as person would be completely healthy with body with his limbs, but without his sight, without his eyesight. That he can't relate although he has all his limbs, but he can't walk on his eyesight-- work with it. So this insight is regard as eyesight of relating with individual awareness practice, which becomes extremely important, as it had be described in Samadhiraja Sutra and other teachings, and while highly recommended to this vipashyana teaching, which is a step towards mahayana teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=957.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the mahayana teaching that you have \"shunyata\" principle, that \"emptiness\" principle, that seeing things as they are and see-- and take off the barrier between you and yourself, in terms of projection of your realm. And that realm can be only taken away, that particular barrier can be only taken away, by perceptions of shamatha [Ed: vipashyana?] -- insight method, which is essential, it has been described in scriptures. And without that you cannot do so. Otherwise because you been completely involved into that limited scope of purely internal meditation of trying to develop peace. So next stage is vipashyana practice, insight practice, which is whether person is meditating on the spot or whether person is not meditating on the spot, that the whole process becomes meditative, insight practice, simultaneously, constantly. Which frees person from insight-- or *fixed* on insight, as well as being fixed on peace, tranquility, notion of any kind, shamatha notion of any kind of tranquility, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1065.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular way that teaching of Gampopa said referred as the union of shamatha and vipashyana practice, which leads us into mahayana tradition. As Shantideva described in his Bodhisattvacharyavatara, that only application of shamatha accompanied by vipashyana that you can attain the spacious room to apply the six paramitas as such. And also it says that five paramitas are like river that runs down in the south, meets the ocean in the south, which is the prajnaparamita, the wisdom. That wisdom contains all-pervading insight of shamatha-- or rather vipashyana notion. So vipashyana is always referred to as prajnaparamita, all-seeing wisdom. And other application of bodhisattva activities, generosity and patience and morality and energy and meditation, are referred as the-- those five rivers running south into-- to meet the ocean, mighty ocean. That whole thing is based on that particular basic principle of related with vipashyana teaching of panoramic awareness. But when person in state of shunyata state or as Zen tradition describe in terms of shikantaza experience of not apply any techniques but just being and sitting down and just experiencing the whole thing, that whole thing is based on that emptiness, empty of dualistic notion of barrier which divides us as well as projections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1162.0,1301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be mahayana principle of overcoming the basic principle of dualistic barrier, and which leads us to next stage of tantric teaching, is person loses basic notion of being self-conscious of that they have transcended the barrier, but they see whole thing is purely absence of barrier. And they begin to see form is form, emptiness is emptiness, purely and directly, and colorful and precise vision of mandala spectrum of life situation as well -- as it is in the world situation. Their five sense perceptions becomes colorful and precise and direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1301.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As you see, that whole thing is we cannot really present one teaching at a time purely by choice. But when we present teaching of duhkha or suffering at the four noble truth level, that that teaching also contains the absence of barrier of mahayana, and panoramic vision of vajrayana contains within that. So whole thing becomes very direct and very literal in this process. That nobody can teach naked vajrayana unless people have gone through basic training, preparation as they are. Nobody ready for it, nobody would hear such teaching. As well as that it's necessary to have basic teaching of lineage, that transmission is passed onto people. That somebody had already done this journey, somebody had already passed and actually experience of their journey in terms of abhisheka process of direct transmission of meeting of the two minds takes place. And nothing could be taking place unless-- *because* reason why is a person hasn't open to themselves or surrender themselves, prostrate themselves on the ground, properly and completely, to surrender their ego and provide this basic ground. And that has been very crude example of threefold yana principle, but I think that seem to be very important to understand that in this case that a lot of people who take part in the seminar are thinking that they might be able to receive some teachings in connected with Tibetan Buddhism as such, which contains the threefold yana principle. They were able to receive that -- out of their choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1355.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But seems that presentation of such teaching in this country, in America, is extremely dangerous and critical. There are two extremes of Western mentalities. The one mentality that contains is that they we're looking forward *so much* to the free aspect of mahayana and open aspect of mahayana and vajrayana of spontaneity -- that one could be able to do whatever you feel like, just go ahead and do it. If you feel killing somebody, just go ahead and do it. That's the teaching of mahayana, which is extremely misunderstood. And then is other extreme is that extreme version of hinayana, that everything should be control, regimented, and everything had to have fixed ground and everything had to be computerized or put into pigeonholes. And there's no free space, that you must confirm yourself to the narrowness of the teaching. Which leads to basic kind of American mentality of regimentation, militarized, approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1475.0,1564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So both extremes are, goes without saying, are extremes. And the one extreme that approached by just casual and free leads to a nihilistic approach, \"everything's nothing, you can do anything you like,\" which leads to a wildness of energy and abused freedom. Which leads us into realms of gods which is still realm of fascination and everything. The other extreme lead us into the other problem, that we had to regimented ourselves and put into extreme situation as it is. In terms of eternity, in terms of internalism-- eternalism, that everything goes on continuously eternally. That as long as we practice our particular mode of behavior in terms of eternalism that we are on that particular solid ground, we are working on some basic pattern of as things as they are. We have our ego, we have our world, we have our practice, goes on constantly, which leads us into realm of hell. That eternalism of hell is based on that particular regimentation and nihilistic approach of world of gods is based on that dreamy quality of the whole thing. So we have a two particular dangers in this case of extreme cases. So the teaching cannot represented as just what we like, but what should be right for the people, what right for the audience as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that seem to be the basic conclusion. Perhaps we should stop -- I should stop talking -- and we could have some short discussion on it, questions on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1564.0,1732.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can you give us an example of what you mean by the over-regimentation of practicing the dharma? Could you give a specific example of a kind of practice that would be in that category?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't know exactly how could I give you example as such, but whole thing is purely based on blind faith to start with. That there's no human qualities in it at all. That whole thing is purely based on, \"You should do that, you shouldn't do that, you mustn't question,\" like you-- if you're in the military service. And there's no meeting of the two mind takes place at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1732.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It can be both, can't there? If there is not blind faith, if there is a definitely a meeting of the two minds but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes and thereby--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --can't there be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --I mean by then you would have step out realm of hell and you would step out of realm of gods, and you could have both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But even at a primary level where you at least have a basic-- well I don't know if you could call it an intuition, but your faith isn't blind I don't think. It's like you really-- you-- it makes sense to you. When it makes sense to you, do you have certain regimentations? Would they be bad?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean you could make-- the whole thing couldn't make sense to you if you been over-indoctrinated. But in terms of your own individuality that it doesn't make sense. I mean I could be raised in communist China, and I could read Chairman Mao's writings again and again *and* again and again, and I begin to believe it, I begin to write for it. I begin to in fact write commentaries on Chairman Mao's writings and how it is appropriate to the modern day of China. But whole thing had to be based on individual-- *primeval* individual instinct level. That otherwise whole thing becomes another doctrine, another dictatorial-ship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1779.0,1865.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Isn't that-- do you think that the teaching that is prevalent or was prevalent in Tibet up until the time of the Chinese communist invasion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teaching was what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well that was prevalent in Tibet up until the Chinese invasion, would not be suitable in North America because it might lead to these two extremes, or [INAUDIBLE] was it referring to hinayana teaching at that time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I was-- what I was saying is purely human conditions. That what we are doing here, in this country, is what great teachers in Tibet did in the seventh century. That we are trying to do exact replica of that, because psychology of human mankind hasn't been changed at all. That there was that particular cautious quality of the people in the mid-seventh century. There were about 108 great teachers came to Tibet from India, and they presented the teaching of Buddhism exactly the same thing. Shantarakshita who introduced the monastic system in the country and Padmasambhava introduced the tantric teaching in the country. They were into exactly the same process what we are doing. So we have some historical guidance in a sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1865.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: On the subject of developing powers, how these spiritual masters in Tibet, and many lesser masters, worked at developing a particular type of power, and then one was for running immense distances and then floating away. Does this fit somehow? I mean is one advised to cope with suffering and developing power rather than just detaching from suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know what you-- I don't understand what you mean by power?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well is one to be passive and try to detach from all evil, from all that one considers as evil, or is one to meet it from one's inner being and say, \"I will fight this and God will be with me,\" this kind of thing? I'm mixing a few things and then I sort of threw in the one about developing spiritual powers through meditation which-- is a master like that different from a teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Master such as who exerts their power do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There are stories of men who meditated in the mountains for seventeen years and then came down, having developed immense spiritual resources, which they were able to pass on. What is that tradition, or am I completely off?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well their tradition seem to be based on our able to feel the psyche of the whole world. That he's able to see that his version of the world is same as that what he's seeing. And he is sufficient confident that world might have changed in the seventeen years, and he's willing to come down and meet these changes as well as the basic psychology of the whole thing. That one had developed one's own attitude to the world as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What about the philosophy I mentioned, the one that's to meeting it, I would call passively as against actively?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Meeting life passively as against actively. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's meditation, but at the same time meditation becomes active. You can't have purely passive meditation all the time. If you have a concentrated practice of passive meditation, that could be regarded as a training ground, *purely*. And next one's active meditation begin to come up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] continuing on, maybe because I'm embarrassed or something. There's the tradition of gurus, let's say, in [UNCLEAR: India?] who have insisted on turning the other cheek continuously as against those who took arms and led them against oppressors. We could tie this into say South Vietnam now. What-- and how do you feel?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is-- who turn other cheek?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Gurus, spiritual masters. That those who were passive totally and [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --as against those who led armies, who organized armies and went out and fought.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Which is-- which you do-- which position appeals more to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean -- both. If they are competent teachers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=1950.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] because I was out of the room coughing. At the transition between going through tranquility to-- I think you were making a point of the active five stream.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Active what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I misunderstood your point about going [INAUDIBLE] concept of tranquility. You were talking about tranquility and this aspect, and then each one of them being-- should be more. That one goes and I think then you were talking about the five streams. Compassion and a few other qualities. Could you just remark on what had you said about [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not sure exactly what you refer to which level. Do you remember anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: She's referring to the five paramitas and the five streams going into the ocean, the six paramitas.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You made a point about the tranquility aspect of that, and youhad to bemore.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the tranquility aspect is based on the passive activities of generosity and morality, patience, energy, meditation, and so on. They are very tranquil actions. But they must meet prajna, which means-- \"prajna\" which means \"knowledge\". As it is be described in several texts, writings, that those five types of tranquilities are regarded as five types of cavalry of universal monarch, which had to be led by the universal monarch himself, is the being the knowledge. Otherwise the cavalries wouldn't have-- or these troops wouldn't have reason for fighting unless the troops be led by universal monarch himself. Traditionally there is the horse cavalry, elephant cavalry, and people on foot, and all sorts of other traditional analogies that were used by the whole thing. And you have to have-- in other word, peace is the active force because being peaceful is a very powerful thing to be because you can't get through anything. If you be absolutely peaceful that you have no cracks that any other chaos could enter into it. Absolute peaceful, being peaceful, is absolutely fortify with the whole thing. And then you have the wisdom which should be accompanied by peace.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that leads us to next situation, that application of peace must be wise in relating with vipashyana as we call it, or the insight practice of seeing the things as they are, the visional process of panoramic vision. And with that that you could develop both together, that sudden dynamic, invincible peace quality comes along as long with the openness of the insight. They both must be together otherwise one is not able to work on it anyway at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=2193.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Look at the Zen monastic tradition, wouldn't you say that's a regimented system?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, but it's highly regimented. So much so that it is funny, at the same time. It has sense of humor along with that is because highly, extremely regimented two-hundred percent. Therefore there is some sense of humor going along, which I'm afraid Americans cannot match that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you think it's suitable for the West [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To have two-hundred percent regimentation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: As spiritual discipline, the monastic system [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not of two-hundred percent\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Why is it not suitable for the West and it's suitable for the East? Aren't the-- you said before that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because Americans are--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --they're all the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because Americans already familiar with a raging war.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: With regimentation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Raging war.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They won the war all the time. Supposedly--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --if they're losing war in Vietnam, I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They are familiar with this whole mentality of Americans. Whether you are young American or whether you are old Americans that they raged war and they have succeeded, and they salute their flag all the time, under their flag. I'm talking about United States by the way,[laughing] I forget that I am in Canada. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There's a difference.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't understand what you mean when you're saying that-- the explanation about saluting the flag and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that this continent of North America is very aggressive thing. We don't need another spiritual aggression at all anymore. If people who study Zen Buddhism could catch this sense of humor of the Zen tradition along with one-hundred regimentation rather than two-hundred percent, then we are into somewhere. But otherwise we become too regimented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=2424.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Isn't it-- isn't there a difference that we have to take into account? Generations like maybe my parents' generation was very regimented. If I had been-- if my parents were American, it so happens they weren't, but this generation now, the generation which we are in. For instance in our community, where we have very regimented -- well, probably not -- it's not the same as Japanese, but [laughs] it has similar aspects. Well we come from very passive-- we-- the lives we led just before coming into this regimented way of life was far from regimented. It was very passive and very, well, you know, sort of hippie-like, most of it, because it was a reaction to the regimented-- to the raging war life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What have you tried for yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You tried for yourselves at the same time. I mean I don't know your lifestyle[INAUDIBLE], I haven't been there, I haven't actually felt the psyche of the whole thing, but I'm talking about a general principle that such regimentation could happen in this North America by over-emphasizing Zen tradition by the excuse of American aggression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You mean on a wide level--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean I'm not referring to you people. I'm not talking you people at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, but I-- what I was just trying to-- what I was bringing us up as an example, but I just-- I-- it seems to me many people, not just us, but a lot of people, at least I think if we take into account age groups and different-- the generation, our generation, a lot of people have because of this raging war type mentality have reacted against it already. Had, you know-- it started about five years ago at least or you know the revolution thing is-- had became sort of a passive thing, a passive revolution. And that's just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there are again something to watch about that passive revolution at the same time. And people who had created the peace sign, people who talk about nonviolence organization, supposedly trying to follow Mahatma Gandhi's examples in the States, anyway, are more war-like than anybody else. As we know that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: They're revolutionaries, but I'm thinking in terms of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know, and that's what I mean, yeah. But we don't want to become Buddhist revolutionaries.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, no. Well that's just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have to be ordinary human beings as good Buddhists. Honest and general-- generous and good Buddhist. And in fact I hope that all the Buddhists in this country able to infiltrate into society so that they present their honesty and good Buddhist quality into everywhere, so the people could awakened rather than you know said particular, \"If you accept my proposal, that you should be part of me, because we have the wisdom,\" as such. I mean it's very, very, very ordinary thing. What I'm saying, it's extremely ordinary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But to get into this ordinary-- I think it's-- to get into this ordinary position, this-- *it seems* that a regimented way of life would conduce to that better than just a way of life where-- which where before just copping out on yourself all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I quite agree. Well whatever you feel and like to do, that's depends up to your lifestyle constantly. That we have found our way in Colorado, in Tail of the Tiger, there's a way of integrate into society and infiltrating with dharma is just to speak their language, be among with them. But at the same time of course we be labeled as eccentric person, odd person, but nevertheless that we become part of them. And at the same time we present as far as we could the teaching of meditation and everything. And the whole thing becomes very chaotic, to start with at the beginning, to people anyway. They are not quite sure that we are actually hippies or we actually philosophers or we are university students. They are not quite certain what to label us. We don't seem to take drugs, we don't make that a big thing, big deal, and we don't particularly react against war as such as the politicians would do. And we are left in the no-man's-land, but we still strive along. It's basic-- that we have to develop some basic Buddhist characters in this country, in this continent, so that we would have basic force to relate with people and infiltrate completely. And we don't want cut ourselves away from that social structure as being particular eccentric people, \"If you did their trip then you are in it, otherwise you are not in it.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But before you infiltrate, isn't there a need for a sort of an incubation period first? [Laughs] Because you've come from the chaos--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --and before you go back into the chaos and improve the situation shouldn't you have improved yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is-- the chaos is incubation state. That you wouldn't have come to hear and study teachings here, yourself personally, unless you have be inspired by it, by something -- goodness knows what. You're here because of you be confused, because you be dissatisfied, that *is* incubation period. And we should develop ourselves as strong person from this onward because you have whole lineage behind you. You're not alone. There's a great lineage, if you like to call it, of Buddha, and the patriarch of Zen tradition, of Milarepa and Marpa, and all sorts of characters behind you who great teachers behind you. That you are part of the family. You've got tremendous force behind you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=2572.0,2962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But most people when they first come to spiritual practice, they're usually only willing to commit themselves to a certain amount. They're very weak. And they seem-- and from experience we've seen at the center, people come who have some desire to become enlightened, to practice, but not be wanting to commit themselves enough, they quite quickly go back to their old way of life, their old habits. And without a push, without some form of self-discipline, and some self-- some form of discipline imposed upon them, they just won't develop and just won't practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, point is that [laughs] you mustn't scare them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, but whether we--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You must understand them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's what we're trying to do. We understand that they're very weak and they're very easy, fall back in their old habits--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We know yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --unless they're helped to start to practice. They need a push to start practicing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's quite understandable, but at the same time their weakness must be understood as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes but see they can't be babied either, because if you say \"well,\" -- you know, you tell them nicely -- \"you should practice,\" and so on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you can't. You have to force them some stage. I mean you have to tell them \"you accept or reject.\" That's important at the same time. But nevertheless on the other hand, that there should be some meeting points if you find that you can't make up with the whole process of discipline.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: See at the center problems are all self-created and also created *for* us to overcome, which would tend to develop our strength of being able to face the difficulties of life, more and more. In fact it would develop our courage much more than normally because we're constantly faced with over-- with facing difficulties that are created for us and also by us, and therefore we have to, very quickly, see into our own minds and see our attitude when faced with these difficulties, and then realize that we must change our own attitude towards the difficulties. Because the problem doesn't lie--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --the problems don't lie in life or with the problems that are created, but they lie with us, the problems lie with our attitude towards. And these difficulties that are created for us, they help us to develop the courage to face up both through the difficulties of life that we think are difficulties. That's why I think that we--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see you had to have compassionate attitude. That your difficulties are not just difficulties, but they are bundle of energies that happens in that situation and you don't have to particularly regard that we are going to court martial you on the spot. But you would have your exits, your way of relaxing, some... You see, the whole point is that Buddha used to -- anyway I don't know him personally -- but he used to give an inch to the confusion of the people, and those who are confused used to give an inch to him. And that's why-- how Buddha and his disciple worked out. They must have some softness somewhere. You can't really just cut them through. Although I know the notion of sword of Manjushri applies there, but somebody had to give in order to meet in no-man's-land, which is extremely important. It's meeting in no-man's-land, that you have given your open invitation and they have given you confusion, skepticism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Who is \"they,\" though?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The confused people gives certain skepticism opposed to confusion, which is quite a deal different, you know. When you're confused, you are completely baffled. When you are be skeptical that's slightly different, much more awake situation, that both parties have to come to this meeting points together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=2962.0,3244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What I'm talking about is that most people tend to-- instead of facing the-- their everyday lives and the difficulties in life and what they think are difficulties, they tend to run away from them. And that's why I'm saying that the-- for beginner's practice, especially, the Zen tradition is very good, because it helps them to create-- develop the courage needed to face those difficulties. Those, you know, the ups and downs of life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I have some skepticism about Zen tradition of that point myself personally, I do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, I question if one develops courage by having someone else instruct them in their discipline. It seems to me it would take-- eventually one has to stand alone to have courage. I don't-- I really don't understand how other people-- I mean I'm really-- I'm puzzled because I sat in during a discussion period and I was trying to figure out how one man can speak for all these people and assume that he's directly responsible for them, because if they are left alone in their own confusion they're all going to perish and like keep their mommy and their poppy or whatever, and I really don't understand that. I just don't understand that. It seems to me it's just postponing the opportunity for each individual, to somehow or other, either face their confusion and find out if they have any courage or just blow it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be subject of discussion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be the subject of discussion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I mean, again, what is...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3244.0,3383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: What is your skepticism of Zen tradition? You said that is why--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think-- well I think to begin with the Americans misunderstood Zen tradition in Japan completely. It would have been better if they received Zen tradition from China or Ch’an tradition, or if they received their tradition in Vietnam or Korea, because Japanese Zen tradition is become extremely regimented and extremely methodical.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well I have to say that currently what we practice at the center is not Japanese Zen either. It's been-- you know, we applied it to Canadian standards so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Canadian Zen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, right. That's right. Exactly. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's good to hear that. But one wonders how much you do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3383.0,3442.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: You take the principle of-- you take what Zen, Japanese Zen, is, you take Japan out of it and you got Zen. You put Canadian people with it, you got Canadian Zen. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the point is how. You see, the point is how you take Japan out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well you just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is Japan anyway in terms of Zen tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The forms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well the Japanese Zen is all the traditional-- is all those robes and those shaven heads and all that. And *Zen* -- Zen is Zen you know. It's not Japanese, it's not Canadian. You just take that and put it with, I don't know, good working Canadian boots and you know a checkered jacket and you've got Canadian Zen. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why don't you call it sitting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be very much exterior. I mean you could do anything, but how about spiritually or psychologically?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That it's spiritual, it's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --a way down example of-- it's a way down explanation too that I've just said, but I'm sure you got what I mean. I was-- it's the spiritual [UNCLEAR: plant?] you take from Japan and you put it into Canada.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Transplanting Japan into Canada?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No, transplant Zen into Canada. Oh, Zen--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is Zen?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But are we here to discuss Zen? I mean, are we here to discuss Zen? What's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It just means looking at your own mind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3442.0,3525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What does it mean, Zen--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Why not? It just means to look into your own mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --into Canada?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Just sit in meditation, look into your own mind\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well okay that's fine, that's beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: We don't have to call it Zen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's beautiful, yeah. You could call it whatever you like to call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Exactly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's seems okay. But--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3525.0,3550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But yes, Rinpoche, if you take a few of the traditions of Zen and use them, to what I think is beneficial, for benefit, for the reasons that I've said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm highly skeptical.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: If we call Zen Buddhist--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't matter what you call, but what you do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, that's it, we just-- if we're practicing Buddhism which is stripped down to its barest essentials, we don't have room, for one thing, or time or energy for fascination with any particular Japanese-ness about, you know, sitting on a floor, or whatever, or going through having someone put us through psychological changes. And, in a sense, I think spontaneously -- it's a funny word to use -- Canadian Zen *is* forming. Or you can-- we can call it Kagyu, whatever you want, it doesn't matter to us, [laughs] the word Zen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what is the practice consist of?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, mind-only. The mind-only type of practice when buddhahood is realized, when Mil--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what's the regimentation that you are talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, no, what Milarepa would call-- I think in regimentation you're referring to going through a certain kind of formal practice. I don't think the solid practice so much demands *that* as stripping away the exteriors, what Milarepa would call -- let me think -- the path to total self-abnegation for obtaining buddhahood in one lifetime.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know that. [Laughs] But what would Naropa will call it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We haven't read it yet. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You must read that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3550.0,3662.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE] I'd like to raise a question on a little different level if, you know, we've finished with this. I don't want to interrupt. The dichotomy that you applied earlier on the-- seem to suggest the-- in the Western tradition the difference between the-- between Catholicism, where the church and the priest come between man and the eternal and interpret for man what he should believe and what he should do and so on, while the reformation created new philosophy in which man had access directly to God. And I was just wondering, in terms of what you're applying, how you see this in terms of Buddhism? Where is the-- what position does the teacher have in this case? Is the teacher-- seems to me you're leaning towards a position where the teacher does not make the decision, does not not make interventions, but where he simply gives some guidance, and it's up to the individual himself to find his way. He's not depending on the guru for, you know-- the guru is not responsible for what he does, he's responsible for himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know what you mean. I think that's the precisely where we suffered here, if we call it suffer, is that we have two situations of orthodox Buddhism, whether they should speak Japanese or Chinese or Tibetan, like what Roman Catholics would did, speak Latin. That's imagery thing-- symbolical thing I mean. I mean they might prefer that when we have a discussion on Buddhism, the early Buddhists of this particular teaching would might have preferred that lecture could be hold in Japanese, in Tibetan. And we have next situation which is as developed in the Catholic process as well, teachings in Catholicism, that whether we should speak language of the country, which implies whether we should be hear as language of the country as well, which provides a lot of conflict. I mean lot of people try to become Japanese, recently Tibetans or Indians. I met hundreds of people, come to me, speaking literally pidgin English like Indians would speak, dropping out all the articles and talking literally Indians would speak -- and they're into spiritual journey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo far as Buddhism is concerned nothing happened that way, some strange reason, because Buddhism is not particularly based on cultural or folksy level of any kind. It happens to be more sophisticated religion, more intelligent religion, as such. Rather like Christianity and Judaism in this point of view. But at the same time that we have same problem of course whether the American Buddhists should regard the whole thing completely and behave like the Japanese or the Tibetans disregarding their culture as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3662.0,3940.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I have a question. First of all, the lady behind talked about us following a master and he's speaking for everyone. I just-- for myself I could say that I'm not ashamed to say I need help, and who else can we go to than fully developed beings or beings that are much more developed than we are?\r\n\r\n\r\nBut the thing I'd like to ask you -- putting aside the job we're going to do when we're qualified -- a student, a medical student, to become a surgeon goes to school for many years; he doesn't go playing around with the body and see what happens, he goes to school and studies and then becomes a surgeon and does his work. Now if we speak for ourselves here, who are trying to develop so that we eventually can be able to help people and worry at that time what to do as far as being sensitive to the people. But our training ground, this is our hospital, and if we can take that, the Zen tradition or the essence of it, take that hundred percent plus the sense of humor, work with it, and if we-- is it possible that that will be a lot quicker than working the way you described before, just you know, grooving and being mindful of what we're doing? Because the confusion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't say \"grooving\" in that particular sense and connotation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Oh, I'm sorry. [Laughs] No, but the thing that is confusing to me is that all the books I read from high lamas and sages and whatever, I get a sense that they all fairly well did the same thing. And the thing you talk about is something new to me and I guess that's what confuses me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not new at all. It's old hat to me, as far as I'm concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3940.0,4043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You still haven't really given us the reasons for being skeptical of Zen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reasons what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: For being skeptical of Zen practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say Zen as being skeptical as such, but I feel that I am representing my lineage, which I am. I have the master word into this lineage. And I'm the, so to speak, descendent of that particular tradition, and I be given full power to relate with dealing with North America, as I received word from my lineage and my school, if you like to hear that particular thing. But I feel that at the same time that as ambassador, or likely as counselor, that Zen tradition is very skeptical opposed to the lineage that we have brought up-- I have brought up myself in terms of presentation. Because there is so much regimentation and so much basic preparation that people be already got in-- asked to get into before they're ready. I'm mean it's quite easy to prepare your zafu, it's quite easy to prepare your robe, and it's quite easy to prepare your own -- what you call, that thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's not easy to prepare your mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's not easy to prepare your mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not. That's why-- that's the whole thing, it's *not*. I'm skeptical. I'm outside of Zen, I'm outside of anybody. But I'm Buddhist watching skeptically with the whole evolutionary development of America. I'm extremely skeptical about the whole thing, but I'm outsider of any tradition that I don't feel obligated to anything. I have discussed with Suzuki Roshi, that we decide to work together in California, but at the same time I watch suspiciously from above. I am skeptical of naturally anybody who involved with the skeptical-- spiritual scene of any kind. I have confronted with Swami Satchidananda and his Integral Yoga Institute and Charles Berner who is connected with Abilitism of enlightenment or whatever it's called. Of any kind, I'm skeptical of *anything* that happens in spiritual realm. Which I feel right to have it because I know the whole thing. I have completely mastered the whole thing. I feel I master of it and therefore I'm skeptical of it. I would like to relate with logical reasons, if they present some logical things I accept, otherwise I reject. And whole thing is very simple in this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4043.0,4275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Are you saying that there are no other masters, for example Zen masters, who are not also master of all the other spiritual disciplines too? Spiritual masters?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't know because I don't know-\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's why. We don't have enough Zen master in this country -- except I feel Suzuki Roshi who's *really* is a master, he's really beautiful person. I respect him personally very much. I regard him as my father from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And he was of the Zen tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I appreciate that and I feel he's very close to me because we could speak the same language from that point of view. [Laughing] We're getting to basically the same thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4275.0,4324.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] . We have recently met Kalu Rinpoche who's also the Kagyupa school. And it seems that after having seen him for a while and been with him for a while, and spoken to his disciples and so on and listened to his teachings, that he seems to place quite an emphasis on discipline and a certain amount of regimentation. It seems that way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well now you see I'm not talking about discipline, as such. But I know Kalu Rinpoche, I have a relationship with him in terms of teaching. That he's an old student of friend of my guru and we know each other, that we have some understandings. But are equally suspicious of how he approach the people, lack of understanding in the West. How many people shopping for spirituality, how many people *really* interested in it? That remains problem for me. I feel I've been burdened by how relate with people in the way, myself, personally. This is how feel that I'm responsible of Kagyupa teaching in the West, in America anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What was the word you used? What teaching? Kagyu...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Kagyupa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Kagyupa.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Timbuktu. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4324.0,4421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Would you feel that-- well, if I-- do you think that we as individuals here who are sincerely trying to understand the dharma so that we can do our part, do you think that our energy would be better placed if we weren't doing it the way we are now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you should get onto your practice without laying any trips on anybody else. Just get on and meditate constantly everyday. Go ahead and do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: That's what we're doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you should. You should be better. Just go ahead and do it and then we see the end product.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But if you can help other people come to the path also, isn't that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which I'm doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah, which we're doing also. We're trying to anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [laughing] I mean, I'm doing my best.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So are we.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And I have complete faith in what had develop in Tail of the Tiger and Karma Dzong in Colorado. I'm proud of the whole thing. And the people get into it in my own rhythm, my own vision, and I'm proud of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] tuned into you, maybe a lot of people aren't tuned into you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4421.0,4504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: Maybe a lot of people aren't tuned into your way. There are other spiritual paths as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah, any spiritual path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: They all come to the same thing anyway. [Laughter] You're just a great leader. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm proud of what's developing Tail of the Tiger. It's absolutely what's happening, which I feel that it should happen. But at the same time I'm cautious of them, extremely skeptical of the whole thing, that I'm controlling it. And I would like to mind individual student's business, which I'm afraid I must do, which I'm proud of doing it because I relate with people as they are. And same thing happens in Colorado with relating with individuals and I mind their business constantly. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: We're quite proud of what we've done at the Zen Center and we're constantly hoping to improve it and bring people to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't have to prove yourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Because we think that we have a lot to offer and I think we're all equally working as hard too--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --for the same reason, doing the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4504.0,4585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to try to prove anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Beg your pardon. \"Improve\" I said, not \"prove.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Proof anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No, \"improve\".\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Proof* that you are doing well. You don't have to say that we are doing well particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No I said I think we're *trying* to do as well as possible, we're trying--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: We're always trying to improve the center so that it can be better for people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we both watch our end product. [Laughs; laughter] Fundamentally I'm skeptical of anything that's happening, extremely skeptical, because I've got my own basic attitude to what teachings of Buddhism should be in this country. I'm afraid to say, I'm very narrow minded from that point of view. So I will be skeptical of anybody who speaks the name of Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [UNCLEAR: I don't understand?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: We're narrow minded too. Isn't that wonderful. [Laughs] It's wonderful. I think we are very narrow minded too, but in different ways and I think that's wonderful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But I'm be narrow minded of your narrow mindedness. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I'm narrow minded of yours! And yet we're here. We're here because we love you and respect you, and we're here for any help possible which we can get. We're here selfishly, happily, joyously, not needing a damn thing, but loving you *very much*. You know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we're all Buddhist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I take the granted, which there's not any particular credit.\r\n\r\n\r\nShould we end our meeting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4585.0,4689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Can I ask one question that's a little bit off to what we've been just talking about now? In going through different states of consciousness in a day, say for instance, from-- and trying to keep them all open, is there anything special about the dream state? Any special way of approaching, understanding that and being open?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you know you are asleep now. You're dreaming this whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Are these dreams any different than the ones [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're going to wake up tomorrow morning. [Laughs; laughter] You are dreaming now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Okay, then what about the dreams that we dream we are dreaming? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same thing. You're going to wake up and you're going to wake up tomorrow morning on Sunday morning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Wake up to another dream? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another dream, yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What is-- how is-- is there [laughs] any as-- any difference between awareness and a dream consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well when you dream you are dreaming, fascinating, but awareness is precise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But is awareness within the dream?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah. That you're dreaming now in awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: If awareness is in a dream are you just dreaming that you're aware?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: In effect? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and vice versa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I don't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4689.0,4815.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60931/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should end our meeting tonight. Don't think too much what we discussed today. Have just good sleep so we will be refreshed tomorrow morning. Please, have a good sleep. Thank you for taking part today.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4815.0,4852.12225"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711009VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3438.4,3442.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10:\nYou take the principle of--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3442.51,3444.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you take what Zen, Japanese Zen,\nis, you take Japan out of it\nand you got 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Oh, Zen--\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is Zen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3516.82,3522.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: But are we here to\ndiscuss Zen? I mean, are we here\nto discuss Zen? 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You could call\nit whatever you like to call it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3533.08,3535.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=3535.95,3539.167"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThat's seems okay. 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That's why--\nthat's the whole thing,\nit's *not*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4193.01,4197.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm skeptical.\nI'm outside of Zen,\nI'm outside of anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4197.88,4202.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I'm Buddhist\nwatching skeptically\nwith the whole evolutionary\ndevelopment of 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[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4766.51,4770.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any as-- any difference\nbetween awareness\nand a dream consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4770.46,4776.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell when you dream\nyou are dreaming, fascinating,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4778.34,4781.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but awareness is precise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4783.0,4784.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: But is awareness\nwithin the dream?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4786.29,4788.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nSure, yeah. That you're\ndreaming now in awareness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4789.73,4797.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22:\nIf awareness is in a dream","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4800.98,4802.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1057","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are you just dreaming\nthat you're aware?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4802.74,4804.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1058","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4804.61,4805.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: In effect? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4805.88,4807.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1060","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYeah, and vice versa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4807.36,4810.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1061","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: I don't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4810.23,4811.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1062","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI think we should end\nour meeting tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4815.94,4819.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1063","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't think too much\nwhat we discussed today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4821.84,4824.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1064","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Have just good sleep\nso we will be refreshed\ntomorrow morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4824.52,4829.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Please,\nhave a good sleep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4833.25,4836.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for taking part today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152#t=4840.78,4842.61"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110418/file/212152/transcript/60932/annotation/1067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/060/932/original/19711009VCTR2-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1699212975","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/060/932/original/19711009VCTR2-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1699212975"}]}]}]}