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Buddhist idea of karma contrasted with Judeo-Christian beliefs in God, divine providence. Karma simply cause and effect, arising from duality. Ego's fear of open space creates duality, and karma. Karma arises from not knowing who one is. Questions of \"who\", \"what\", \"why\" provide openings. Definition of America is itself a question. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q2] how knowing who one is uproots karma; [Q6] whether karma is predetermined; [Q8, Q9] how someone who has transcended karma experiences life; [Q22, Q24] not imposing concepts on one's life; [Q29] Christian idea of sin as not applying in Buddhism, where ignorance and mistakes are inspiration for realization.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 04 2021 to Jun 09 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIn-depth talk on karma, in general and as relates to individual. Buddhist idea of karma contrasted with Judeo-Christian beliefs in God, divine providence. Karma simply cause and effect, arising from duality. Ego's fear of open space creates duality, and karma. Karma arises from not knowing who one is. Questions of \"who\", \"what\", \"why\" provide openings. Definition of America is itself a question. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q2] how knowing who one is uproots karma; [Q6] whether karma is predetermined; [Q8, Q9] how someone who has transcended karma experiences life; [Q22, Q24] not imposing concepts on one's life; [Q29] Christian idea of sin as not applying in Buddhism, where ignorance and mistakes are inspiration for realization.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-wfhye5.mpga"]},"duration":5700.04894,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/526/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-wfhye5.mpga?1783093606","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5700.04894,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711118VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711119VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 2] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, given in Boulder, Colorado. This is Talk Two, given on November 18th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado in November 1971. This will be talk number two, November 18th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=27.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seemed that we should discuss about karma to begin with before we discuss anything that involved with--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Louder please.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Louder. [INAUDIBLE]. There's no sound.\r\n\r\n\r\nRelated with what we discussed last night-- is this audible?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter] Just barely.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Barely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=50.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it seems that this seminar is concerned with basic fundamentals of how karmic situations work in generally, as well as that how it works in terms of individually. So we have to get into very fundamental situations. And by talking in this situations, that we have to-- I feel that I have to present the audience to the whole course or analogy in this particular seminar, that everybody will be able to understand what actually really karma is. So we could say this seminar is discussing on the karma as it’s completely full and complete function, so to speak. And by talking of karma, we have to start on the basic fundamental of why karma, how should there be karma? Which might raise lot of problems and controversy of those who believe in the theology or idea of divine providence. Somebody made heaven and earth, therefore, we are part of that heaven and earth. I'm afraid that our way of looking this karmic situation is extremely humanistic, atheistic, approach. Very atheistic approach. Just study of the factual situations as they are, rather than purely discussing the spiritual splendor or the mysteries or spirituality as such, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=84.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we are looking at karma as duality. The one situation starts, and the next situation happens according to it. It's cause and effect, effect with the process of happenings of the world or living situation as it is or whatever is may be. And before we get to that, we could also see, discuss or study, at least accordance with the teachings that have been studied or practiced 2,500 years of study of the cause and effect of original process. Original process of how evolutionary process of the world is made out of. How the world created itself in its own full blossom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=246.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say that we could go back to process of individual as well as panoramic situation that there was, and still there is, basic space. Like we can't function ourselves here in this hall without breathing oxygen. Everybody survived on that. At the same time, we could say that people are here sitting very patiently waiting for this particular talk. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter] Which provides, hopefully, somebody's hoping that there will be some situation of basic space that somebody create so they could dance with it, they could work on that particular interesting talk that somebody might have say something at least interesting. Hopefully. [Laughter] But, at the same time, we do not know whether this talk is going to be interesting or boring. That seem to be the crucial point. Expectations may live up to their expectations, or expectations may not not live up to their standard, and that in itself is space. And so we start our possible expectations on some ground of some kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=320.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that ground is based on dividing the concept between the speaker and the audience. I mean, we can't have this talk, we can't have this gathering, without the audience or the speaker. It's inevitable. If you're going to discuss such subject, if you're going to get together, at all, we are bound to have someone to listen to the words and someone speak-- somebody speaks the word. That's the example of basic karmic situation that somebody's there to receive vibrations and someone's there to radiate the message. So that seem to be the first starting point of karmic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=441.0,518.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we say this light is bright, you can't have just one light is bright without somebody say-- somebody perceive that light is actually bright or not. You need someone to judge that situation. So light is shown when someone projects his attitude towards that light, whether light is bright or dim. And so we work our process that way. So basic karmic process is based on split from the origin, which means that origin is a space and beyond our relative situation at all. The basic origin doesn't know anything about origin of the dualistic split at all. Just purely provides basic space. Like this house could exist as it is, this church could exist as it is, but, at the same time, that this church accommodates audience as well as ministers have performed the sacrificial ceremonies, or whatever's may be, [laughter] are interdependent. And because of that conclusion, you see that you say that that particular church has big congreg-- what you call?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Congregation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=518.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Congregations. Thanks. [Laughter] Or that church has small congregations. That congregation has nothing to do with the understanding at all, that congregation. If we have a larger congregation, that simply says that congregation filled the all the chairs in the church. Depends on the church itself. Supposingly, if church is extremely small, extremely small, which might have five chairs, purely room for the congregation, and if we have eight congregations you say that congregation is great, large, because there were only five chairs available. So whole thing is based on relative situation of how big is the church to maintain the congregations. And, from that point of view, that a karmic situation is presented as a relative situation, purely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Excuse me, I didn't understand what karma was, and there was a lot of talk up there, but I didn't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Perhaps you should be more patient, please. Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=624.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about karma, as it is, that karmic situation is purely relative situation. Like we are talking about congregations who could-- which could accommodate smaller congregation or larger congregation, that's depends on how the church has been built, how much situations involved there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=757.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seems that this particular process of karma is in Sanskrit word, which etymologically, it's same root of, in the European language, of \"creation\" or \"karma.\" Cre-ation, karma, which supposed to be on the same root of language. Karma means creation. But at the same time, you cannot have creation without situations or creator. And it seems that point that Hinduism, for instance, who also talks about karma, had misled by creation or the creator. There had to be somebody had to create the karmic situation. From the Buddhist point of view, that creation does not have to be depend on the creator as such at all. Creation itself is the creator. Like if you have a small audience in the congregation, that the very measurement, very conceptualized concept of how small the audience is based on the church, the accommodation. So the situation speaks of the-- for the creation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=796.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the karmic duplicity of mind starts from not knowing what we are, absolutely bewildered. Who we are, what we are, is not certain. We could be somebody else, we could be nobody, for that matter. But how we know what we are at the same time. It's very interesting the English language that you talk about, if you don't bother to-- if you don't want to talk about me and him or her, there's expression which says \"one.\" Supposing \"one\" does something, and that equals \"zero,\" which is not related with either \"me\" or \"he\" or \"she,\" but \"one.\" Which seem to be used for excuse that somebody could become anonymous if you don't want to kill your enemy, and you want to kill your enemy, and you get into this particular expert who is murderer. You go to this murderer and say, \"Supposing one would like to murder one's enemy. How one should do it?\" [Laughter] Makes the whole thing very safe and spacious. That's very interesting linguistically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=900.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of situation we are talking about. Supposing one doesn't want-- one doesn't feel there is no such thing as one. How one would cope with it. [Laughter] Maybe there's not one, maybe there's zero! Supposing the zero doesn't feel to be zero, [laughter] how would it confirm itself as being zero?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: By thinking it was one. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh, I was just being funny. [Laughter] I don't know. I could-- I don't know if I could possibly recreate that. [Laughter] I suppose we should just leave it and go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Courage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1010.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thanks. [Laughter] So we have-- supposing one would like to create fantasies, but one doesn't know who is creating fantasies, and one is uncertain about the one. Should we relate that one to the zero or not? That's big decision. Because one is definite, even that point of view, but zero is outrageous. [Laughter] We can't say supposing nobody want something, nobody want to kill their enemy, how does that nobody would kill their enemy? [Laughter] That's impossible. [Laughter] So we trying to make that nobody into a one. Supposing someone-- supposing one would like to kill their enemy, how would that one relate with that and the other one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1063.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the very interesting basic point of karmic situations actually. That there is space, that we don't want relate to it, which is too spacious, too non-discriminative, too open. Knows nothing about duality as such at all. It's complete space. And beyond that we would like to relate with that space to provide my space and their space. In order to make my space as my space or their space as their space, we have to make some conclusions. So one would feel that possible you would lose your ground by dividing space into \"my\" and \"yours.\" But, at the same time, you are tempted to divide that space belong to your space and my space, so tentatively that we decide to say \"one\" rather a hundred, or million. Supposing not two want to have space, but one would like to have space. Which is slight very tentative embryonic question. Expecting possibilities of two, three, and four, and five, up to ten, could have space, and you could extend your territory but related with just one situation. That seem to be the karmic process that we are talking about, is that karmic process is based on a tentative process of losing ground. At the same time, the ground is not belong to one particular situation but possibly million situation at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1148.0,1275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the karma is started from-- we could say its basic duality where question rises, because there's a tentative answer. So we could say that first perception is the answer. That there might be answer, and then in order to magnify that answer to make ourselves more secure, we ask question to establish that answer is real thing. To satisfy ourselves, confirm ourselves, that there is answer, because, at the same time, there was question, question because there's answer. So the karmic chain process starts that way, starts that way of trying to maintain something individually, trying to develop something definitely. And the process goes on and on and on, endlessly. That there is space to begin with, which does not belong to me or them. For that matter, that space does not belong to me or myself either. It's completely vacant open space, which is extremely irritating, frightening. There's nothing to hang on to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1275.0,1372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because there's nothing to hang on to, therefore, very intelligently the distortion comes into the picture. Because there's nothing to hang on to, therefore, that nothing to hang on to could be made into a stepping stone and made into questions. What? Who? Am? I? Who? What? Who? What? Where? When? All these mantras begin to churn out of the ego's incantation. But, at the same time, those mantras that who, what, who, what, where, when are extremely powerful thing. They actually don't say anything. They just express another space. \"Who\" means whether this or that, but uncertain. Just \"who,\" which means space. \"What\" equally means, again, space. \"This\" or \"that\" doesn't apply anymore. Expresses uncertainty as well as space. \"When,\" for instance, doesn't also say anything at all. It's expresses space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1372.0,1472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very interesting thing to that work in that way is Ramana Maharshi's teaching of \"Who am I?\" Self-inquiring as been taught. And it seem that lot of people find that \"Who am I?\" is looking for answer, continual answer. And people be led to believe that, if you say millions of times \"Who am I?\" then you might find some answer who you are. But it seems nobody had founded, \"Who am I?\" at all, from that point of view until they regarded that self-inquiry, that particular incantation as a statement rather than question. \"Who am I?\" is a direct statement. And *then*, if they relate that situation as pure statement rather than question, they begin to find answer. Similar could be said is same thing about \"mu.\" \"Mu\" in the Rinzai Zen tradition of repeating incantation of \"mu,\" which means \"not,\" \"nothing.\" And when you say \"nothing,\" \"not,\" again you find-- possibly you find the \"mu\" is not question, which generally you don't have to fill that space, but you accept that space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1472.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seem that karmic situation that we are talking about on that basic principle of American karma, that American karma is in itself statement. That when we talk about American karma, if anybody says American karma, anybody talks about American karma, people automatically presume with a question mark at the end of the statement, because nobody is quite certain what American karma is. Because America is to begin with is mystery in itself. And the karma is in itself further application of used of Eastern tradition, which makes further mysterious. So what is America, what really is America? What really is OM AMERICA SVAHA is? [Laughter] But if somebody introduced another mantra, saying \"OM AMERICA KARMA SVAHA,\" that's in itself beyond imagination what really what is all the mantra is, that incantation is. There's tremendous space that is involved with that whole process, extremely open space. So the karmic situation that we are involved in this process is, therefore, related with the cause and effect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1566.0,1676.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That duplicity of mind of ego. Dualistic or dichotomy of ego begin to proceed its way to find some answer, that karma is already created already. As long as one begin to ask questions, that karma is already created. But it is possible you could ask question to begin with, but then you could stop putting the question marks at the end of the sentence. It is possible. Because, therefore, we are not in-- we are not really completely bounded by karmic chain reactions again at all. You could say the words of question, \"Who am I,\" but not putting question mark at the end of the sentence. So \"who am I\" becomes a statement, rather than a question, by not putting question mark at the end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1676.0,1751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be one of the process that we involved here. Our gathering here together is not question, but statement. That people know they going to learn something out of this gathering of the seminar, the search altogether America is concerned of. That we are going to learn something out of it, but we are not questioning anything out of it is \"who am I\" without a question mark. That I feel personally that our meeting here together, those have a-- those people who take part in this particular seminar, I don't feel that they put out question marks. I feel they are actually ask the questions, it is seem to be okay. But that in itself is inspiring, that they ask question without putting questions marks. A question is an opening process, creating space, but not put the question marks after your questions, which makes that-- questions are not conceptualized, but questions are pure perception, pure intelligent expressions alone, without any other trips involved around that. So that seem to be the first step that we involved with the American karma to begin with.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1751.0,1876.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, would it be appropriate to do this with all questions? Leave out the question mark?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Then you gain your inspirations. You will not ask somebody else's help but you get answer within yourself. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1876.0,1913.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is there no karma for nobody who realizes who he is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, because that particular type of karma is related with transcending sowing the seed. If person would like to know who they are, that means that they are either in the direction of \"there\" or \"here.\" So if there's no direction of there and here anymore, then there's no question of karmic debts of any kind at all. Because you have uproot the whole thing. I mean, like if you decide not to plant a vegetable at all on your garden, the question of successfulness or question of failure for your vegetables doesn't apply anymore at all, because you haven't sowed the seed at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=1913.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You mentioned in one sentence before the words \"cause and effect\" and the words \"karma.\" You didn't explicate the way in which those two concepts fit together if at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who concepts?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Cause and effect and karma. Also the concept of synchronicity. How does synchronicity fit in with either karma or cause and effect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be saying the same thing. That if there's cause and effect, that that means karma. \"Karma\" means \"cause and effect.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Cause and effect usually means: A happening first, and B happening after. The model is of a sequence on a line. One happens first and the other thing happens after. This is a linear model. My understanding of karma is that it all happened at once.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think karma happens at once, but karma could be regarded as hundred percent definition of cause. At the same time, karma could be said hundred percent of effect at the same time. So, once you have karma, that means saying the both cause and effect simultaneously, possibly. The energy. You have energy to plant seed, we have-- you need energy to grow the seed, and you need energy to wait for its fruition. So that is karma. You could say karma of driving motorcar, at the same time, you could say karma of capability of getting yourself into the accident. It's same karma. But it's, of course, different expressions of karma. Like the described-- discussing between the radiating quality of the sun as well as its warmth of the sun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2001.0,2137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Would intent affect karma? In other words, if you were driving a car with the intent of picking up many hitchhikers and taking them places, or if you were using that vehicle for the most amount of usage, would then that intent give you a stronger amount of karma, or would it still be wrong to drive the car?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say wrong to drive the car. But it's collection you make you make on the way, like picking up hitchhikers. That your mind is seduced by certain seductive situation of picking up appealing person who is hitchhiking, but somebody's not particularly appealing, you might not pick it-- pick him or she.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Okay, maybe the question then is getting a little lost. In other words, does intent affect the karma? Like the intent that you want to use it for, does that create--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it does. It does affect the karma. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2137.0,2208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, you're talking about it like if you don't plant the garden, then you won't have to worry about, you know, like if these vegetables will grow right [INAUDIBLE]. I mean, how-- what the fruition will be like, what the crop will be like. Is that like saying-- like until the point where we can see it, or at the point where you can be where it's all one. I mean, people are saying it's not time to hang out in the cave anymore, but I can see that it must be time to hang out [laughing] in the cave. You know, that sounds like that's sort of what you’re saying. I mean, do you understand what I'm asking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, the karmic situation, you were saying something about if you don't plant the garden, you know? In other words, that-- maybe I misunderstood, but it's sort of like, if you don't plant a garden, if you don't fiddle around, if you don't like merge into this life situation. In other words it seems like not planting the garden is like sitting and meditating all the time, because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --there is no way in which you can see it would clear it now. I mean, right now why I've been building more karma while I'm trying to learn, do you know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seemed that you can't just avoid not planting seed to begin with at all. You find yourself already at the product of the plantation. You already find yourself that you somebody become your parents, you been born, and you already grown up the situation of making decisions to your life. But meditation provides certain gaps where karmic situation could be suspended, so to speak. If person meditating for forty-five minutes, cease to sow a seed of karma at that moment. If person meditating for a longer than that, cease to sow a seed of that much karmic situation. So that the balance of life could be seen more perfectly and more realistically and more harmoniously, because you don't have to push yourself at all. You're-- at the same time, you're not being pushed anymore at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So it's just-- it's like it's a balancing of those two things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you need karma to, at the beginning, to meditate altogether. You have to hear such teacher who teaches meditation, and you have to have such place to meditate altogether in the beginning. And you have to take advantage of that situation at beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2208.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, isn't whatever karma you create also your karma? And, in that way, you have no choice as it's your karma, whatever karma you create, and it just goes back like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But, at the same time, I could say yes and no that particular situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The idea that every action you make and every thought we have is totally determined, and that we actually have no choice, wouldn't this seem to say that we have no choice as to what we do, so our karma is already created for us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But that seem to be one of the extremely Hindu approach. But, I mean, you could use analogy of us being here together, for instance. That you cannot deny yourself that you're not sitting here. The karma you have happens to be sitting here taking part in this group. But whether you would like to walk out, not sitting here, which might cause lot of self-consciousness, or need a lot of effort involved, but, at the same time, you can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Isn't that also karma though if you get up and walk out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I don't think so. Because that kind of things doesn't have to have-- there's no sowing seed of anything at all. You can make your own decisions at the same time. I mean, like you asking questions, I wouldn't say that you ask this question right now karmically at all. I would say you ask this particular question by your intelligence. That you decide to ask that question. But you can ask this question because you're in this particular situation, sitting as audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2372.0,2496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Being here now, right this second, are you taking on all of the karma of every being in this... ship? Are you taking on all of our karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. That you could walk out in the middle of the talk, quite independently. Or you could decide to stay on. It seemed that this particular situation a mutual process of relating together. If you find the talk is interesting and reasonable to listen, doesn't put you to sleep, then you sit and listen. And, if you find this talk is hypnotic, that you want to go back to your bedroom and lay down and fall asleep or trying to pick up some other entertainments. It seem to be purely up to everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2496.0,2591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you spoke before of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is talking?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You spoke before of a person being beyond karma--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Person what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Being beyond the reactions, the karma, being beyond karma, the dualistic nature of karma. If he's conscious of the fact that he's not in the action, I think you said something like that, well, what is the nature of his mind of a person's mind who's beyond karma? I mean, does he expect to experience bad and good? Does he react? What is his nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems everything. This person might react to both good and bad or anything else. If he could find or she could find something more than good and bad, that find extremely delightful to find another way of occupation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I mean, we live in life twenty-four hours. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do we? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nNever mind. Yes? [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I was wondering what is the nature of a person who's beyond karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Person who is beyond karma is still related with situation. The karmic situation turn into nondualistic situation that doesn't have to referred accordance with \"my\" perceptions anymore but accordance with what *is* at the time. So you don't have to refer back to central headquarter. So person who is beyond karma is purely relating with things as they are. And that's why it is called what's called in the Buddhist tradition is \"buddha activity.\" Which is also referred as karma. Buddha activity is referred as karma. But this particular karma does not have to-- does not need feedbacks anymore, because it's unique karma in itself, hundred percent karma, hundred percent situation, related with situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2591.0,2747.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: In relation to this question that came up, does karma end? If it does end, when does it end? Because I-- [laughter] What I mean is, I have this book of something I've read, that enlightenment doesn't necessarily end karma, because the Buddha had karma after he was enlightened, because he got worried about some wars or something, [INAUDIBLE] would get killed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He worried about what? CYRUS CRANE: Yeah. I read that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's worried about what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: War. Wars. After he was enlightened.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: After he got enlightened.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter] When does this karma supposed to end? And then I understand that the Buddhists believe that karma can end just in one second, which the Hindus perhaps don't believe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems there, from that point of view, karma is purely related with your environmental process. I mean, you could say that Buddha have to share the karmic situation of everybody. He have to eat, and he have to shit, and he have to find a place to sleep. I mean, that would be impossible otherwise to maintain his physical body. And because of that he is having physical body to relate with his karmic situation of body, therefore, he could able to teach with other people, sharing the same consequence with other situations of his audience.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, then there’s no really no such thing as beyond karma and karma--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: --ending with enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because karma doesn't become hangup anymore. That you're not involved into the particular hangup of any kind of situations anymore. That you just sail through rather than that you are punished or pushed by karmic situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But could you fall down and break a leg?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Did you-- could you bruise yourself, can you hurt yourself? In that state, I mean? Can you experience human--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could, yeah. [Laughter] But, usually, that such person doesn't get in that trouble if he's Buddha. He will see the brick as it is, there, and he walk gently and slowly, he knows bricks there, and he wouldn't trip over them necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, how when you get enlightenment that end karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: If somebody is enlightened, then he would be through with karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: He wouldn't have-- [laughter] well... [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2747.0,2935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said that all situations aren't necessarily karmic situations. How does a karmic situation differ from the situation described in like the last time where it's a bardo situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would say that whole thing is based on how much you have to refer back to yourself, in terms of ego. If you are watching yourself doing what you are, trying to secure your situation, then you are automatically bounded by karmic situations. But, if you are not watching yourself what you are doing, but relate with the things as they are in awake and enlightened way, then you are free from karmic situations. So that's the precise reason that why someone could reincarnate again and refer back to their disciples, their friends, to save them, and some people can't do that, because they have further karmic debts to pay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So the here and now situation is not a karmic-- is never a karmic situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's precisely is, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s why meditation is a way of stepping out of karma. That's why the meditation practice of meditation is possible of attaining enlightenment altogether, yeah. Because meditating or relating with enlightened mind is non-karmic situation, therefore, there's hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2935.0,3040.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, when we think of karma, most of us think of karma as being either good karma or bad karma. Now if we cease to interpret karma as being either good or bad, like cease to interpret the things that happen to us as being either good or bad, would then karma be meaningless since it would be neither good nor bad and, therefore, it would only be things that are happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nobody generally relate with karma as neither good nor bad, but if anybody involved dualistic approach of imposing your concept on things, you always see them as good or bad, healthy or unhealthy, pure related with your maintenance of your ego at the same time. So you already in a karma situation. But if a person actually able to see the \"for me\" or \"against me\" being the same thing, in terms of not maintaining of ego, their karma situation is freed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3040.0,3123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I'm trying to find the concrete meaning then of what you're saying to Tendzin. If Tendzin is beyond karma, and he comes to you with a knife in his hand and he's going to kill you, would your behavior be different towards him than if he came towards you, and he were killing you? He was in karma when he was doing it. Would you resist him in the one instance and not resist him in the other? That's a specific situation rather than an abstract situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean, asking me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if he's tense and paranoid that my little move could make him frightened if you're going to kill me. And he can't kill me, because he's so tense, and he is not together to kill me. In order to kill somebody, you have to be really together. [Laughter] And had to be really direct so you wouldn't be succeed to kill me possibly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: No but a clinical psychopath is a person who's very calm and detached at the moment of committing a murder. In this way, he is a caricature of a lucid, detached enlightened being. Now would you care which of those Tendzin was if he were killing you? [Laughter] Would it matter to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. [Laughter] Any volunteers? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3123.0,3241.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How did the Sanskrit language develop? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Karmically. [Laughter] Of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3241.0,3279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, again, if you're at a point of very high self-realization, and you're overcoming your past karma and your--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What's the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: [Laughs] If you're living in the moment of here and now, in other words, and you're very self-realized, you come to the point of realization and you overcome the past karma in that, are you still creating future-- like aren't you recreating all over again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry, I missed the point. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Maybe it’s a ridiculous question [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you are what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So when- you talk about overcoming karma and the ability to be able to come out of karma, I believe-- aren't you though, at the same time, you can never actually come out of karma? Aren't you just recreating another place of karma that [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think-- well-- I see what you mean. You could. If you trying to really get out of karma by consciously not relating with your spiritual development of stepping out of your ego or relate with ego, that you be doing the same thing all over again and again, again. That's the seem to be difference between the religion and spirituality. If you practice the religion, trying to be good all the time or trying to step out of the badness, you are again and again involved with the karmic situation of good karmic situation possibly, and you may be reincarnated in heaven. But, when you use your karmic situation of being born in heaven, you been automatically thrust back to hell at the same time. Whereas, the whole process of that stepping out of karma is trying to find the root of karma in terms of ego, in terms on nondualistic state. And, if you able to relate with nondualistic state, which means that that nondualistic state doesn't have the possible manure and right seed to sow further karmic situations. Because nonduality is space, and it's in that sense you could say it's a desolate situation. There's no manure, there's no earth, to sow a seed of any kind. Nonduality's pure space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3279.0,3441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: But isn't a bodhisattva creating good karma when he goes around Earth or [INAUDIBLE] good karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't become bodhisattva anyway if you are involved with trying to be good or attain enlightenment. So bodhisattvas have to give up the idea of attaining enlightenment at the beginning. He has to give up his all his trip. And beyond that then he doesn't have anywhere to place his good karma, bad karma, but he just does what is necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: And in essence he's creating karma in the sense that people that are involved, who are not free of duality, are going on a good karma trip by being with the bodhisattva.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. Bodhisattva could be quite crazy and outrageous. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3441.0,3491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: In the change from the questioning attitude like, you know, the statement attitude from, \"Who am I?\" to, \"Who am I,\" there seems to be something like... some kind of solid, heavy quality left. Kind of like, you know you've tossed water out of the jug, but you're still carrying the jug around. What about this-- there's still something hard there, something heavy. Or I feel--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the between?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the differences you're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: It's... there's something there that's not still-- it's still-- it's not a spacious quality in the statement, \"Who am I,\" there's still an attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Is there a transfer-- is there another transformation or do you see what I'm struggling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I see. Yeah, it seem that fundamental approach is that you even don't ask, \"Who am I?\" at all. I quite agree with what you said. The question never arises.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3491.0,3580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: If it’s just giving up the idea of having any answer altogether, giving up answers.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or the questions, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And you give up--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Giving up the statement of any kind. Because statements contain with some kind of labeling and making yourself sure your statement. So you're not listening to your statement anymore. You're not saying anything at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: The other thing is I don't really quite understand about karmic debt. Is that the same thing as still having ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can only have karmic debts if there's ego. You see, karma can only dwell on some soil, because it is like sowing a seed and growing it and getting the fruition out of that. So karma cannot grow in hostile situation like in the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the analogy of Naropa in mahamudra practice, they talk about rabbit's horn and growing flower in the space, which is impossible. Supposedly rabbit cannot grow horn, supposedly that you cannot sow a seed in space for flowers, because there's no substance involved anymore. You don't have to have any-- you can't have any collecting process or referring back references anymore at all, because it is pure space, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3580.0,3710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You said, quite a while ago, that whatever you do you cannot get away from your corporeal existence. You are somehow here, whether you're-- now when you accept or get yourself into acceptance of the anatta principle, the error of having a self is recognized. How does this relate then to you're not being able away-- getting away from your corporeal entity? And how is that, the two things together, refer to-- relate to karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, that fundamentally if there's no such thing as \"me\" in terms of reference point, and you find yourself-- when you find yourself, you find yourself pure space. And then, the karmic process also-- you see, basically, karma could be said as psychological paranoia or hangup. That if you do something, you might get something bounce back on you. It's a psychological process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well, who is aware of your unescapable reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody. It seems both enlightened one as well as unenlightened ones know this common truth anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: But there is no ego to refer to that corporeal entity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, but, at same time, there's a common understanding of it, a kind of gentleman's agreement, [laughter] and there's common sanity. Like in-- an enlightened person would know, if you eat food, he could satisfy his-- he could fulfill that his pain of hunger. If you drink water, he could quench his thirst as well as ordinary people, ordinary person. There's some kind of common area that both enlightened as well as unenlightened are sharing the same process. And that is the precisely why the enlightened person could teach the unenlightened people by talking of this language. If you feel hungry, you eat food. If you feel thirsty, drink water. And, in fact, there's whole teaching involved with that particular idea of common-- what's it called?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Common ground? Sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Common sense, yeah, precisely. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Do you imagine being aware of drinking and eating is also asking himself who is being fed and whose thirst is being quenched, and it isn't me, because I don't exist. [laughter] Is that called dialectic practice [INAUDIBLE]? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if-- I mean, you see, that's one of the problems as that as we look at me is my psychophysical-body as well as the body-body. But in the terms of enlightened being, that you don't look yourself as being psychophysical-body anymore, but you relate with your body as just pure body. That's why precisely when in The Heart Sutra you find the \"form is emptiness, emptiness is form.\" You have body, which is true body. If you drink a cup of coffee you really, truly appreciate, because it's just ordinary simple cup of coffee without any other trips involved with that. So, in fact, enlightened person could enjoy more his cup of coffee.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Doesn't it simply mean that you have-- you enter experiences unconditioned, and you leave experiences without carrying any trace afterwards?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's unconditioned experience, yeah, this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And without trace.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3710.0,3989.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, I come to a crossroad again and again, and always there's that decision to make, which way to go, and I *know* they're both like karmic entanglements. You know, I know that both of them are just as involved and just as complicated and just as confused. Like on what does one base one's decision as to which way to go when you feel like you've done them both over and over and over again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that as long as you begin to make bigger deal about the decisions you fail to see the true decisions in terms of actual need. That you fail to see the precision of the decisions as it is. So it seemed there's a process of making too much emphasis on trying to secure your situations. And, if you regard the problem as a bundle of energy as well as the profit is also bundle of energy at the same time, then you able to relate with the situation as they are beyond decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3989.0,4084.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Then it sounds like you're saying that karma is a matter of judgment in a way. I mean, if you judge a situation as good, bad, or whatever, then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah precisely. The judgment is related with the duality of the mind. That you want to be happy or you want to conquer something else, you want to destroy your hostile environment. And karma is purely come out of judgment and concept. Precisely that really means duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But, if you stop judging, then you don't make karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you stop judging, you don't make karma. That is meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Okay, then you-- then that's what meditation in action is about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: --is like doing things, but you don't make karma do anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. But it's not as simple as we think. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4084.0,4143.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, if meditation is the way out of karma, is there-- how much meditation does a person need? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry to inform you that we haven't developed a computerized programs. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] two hours of meditation daily.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I heard of two-- I've heard it's said that two hours of solid meditation can take a person into samadhi?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With plenty of chaos.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Pure-- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With plenty of chaos in life situation, which might-- which could be twenty-four hours meditation a day. It's depends on the individual situation. As I said, that we haven't developed a precise computerized programs, so it's dependent on one person, another person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I can accept that easily of course, but at the same time, how much should we meditate? I mean, is there any-- or is that personal I guess?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As much as you can.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But do we meditate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on your lifestyle, which is saying the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4143.0,4225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Rinpoche, you said that your judgements in the situation is karmic--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Is karmic, is-- causes karma--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's talking?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --is karma, and-- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Okay, so the situation doesn't change, it's just your attitude towards the situation. Or your way of seeing the situation. In other words, you're-- the pattern of your life doesn't change. It's just you're living it or the way you're seeing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well, it is-- you see, that's the precisely what all the teachings about. That if you say have experience shunyata or emptiness attitude towards your relatives, your father and mother, your wife and children, that doesn't mean to say that you have to destroy your father and mother and your relatives and wife, or you cease to see them as physical being. You still see your father and mother, relatives, as they are, as we used to see them, but, at the same time, you develop the attitude is different. Because your attitude is different, so, therefore, you don't lay heavy trips on them, and they seem to be much lighter and more shunyata-wised situation. [Laughter] Whole thing becomes much lighter. So much more the-- since you don't lay heavy trips on them in terms of concept, then that much karmic situations becomes lighter. So it's question of how much concept that we impose on situations and less we put heavy conceptualized situation on things, then that much enlightened situation become, automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the very interesting point from that point of view is that the Buddhist version of heaven, pure land, says that once you are born in this pure land, you don't want have anything or you don't want anything at all. You see things as they are. But, at the same time, your perception of heaven, heavenly scene, is beautiful offering goddesses and beautiful landscape and flowers and the sweet smelling herbs growing all over. So the idea is seems to be from that point of view is that, if you regard yourselves being born in heaven is that if you want to be entertained by the heaven, then automatically that you get tired of that being in heaven, and you want to go back to hell, because there's more gross and real things happening there. Not sweet-- not too sweet and beautiful. You develop aversion of seeing the ugly things rather than all the time seeing beautiful things. It seem to be that's the differences between the two approach. And the concept of heaven is not being purely one-sided beauty alone, but you transcend concept of both good and bad altogether. So, therefore, transcending both good and bad is could be said as \"mahasukha\" as described in the Buddhist texts, which means \"great joy.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4225.0,4473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: I went to a lecture once of people who are part of the Nichiren Shoshu sect. Who-- their goal was to create karma. They felt that not only could you be in karma or get outside of it, but you could also create karma if they said their chant, NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO. And they kept a vivid image in their mind of what they wanted. Let's say it's a red Cadillac convertible, a beautiful woman, or a kilogram of hashish, it would happen. And they had-- oh, at the one that I was at about fifteen grateful testimonials of people who had done what their guru taught them to do, and they each got exactly what they wanted. In one case, it was a red cadillac, [laughter] in another case it was a kilogram of hashish, in another case it was money, in another case it was a woman. Now is this a subtle form of self-deception or-- [laughter] or if it actually [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Subtle form of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Subtle form of self-deception.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Or are they actually creating karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's saying the same thing, isn't it? [Laughter] They are creating karma, they're getting subtle self-deception at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: It doesn't seem very subtle at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, to them maybe it's... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: No, but there is a difference between--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what we--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: --thinking that you have a car and actually having a car. Or thinking that you have some money and not having the money.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, I mean, that's we all do usually. And what we would call that is spiritual materialism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Right on. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In its very primitive sense, if I may say so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: They all claim to be mahayana Buddhists, however.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, too bad. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4473.0,4594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Without making judgments, how do you make decision-- how do you decide anything? I mean, you're supposed to act on the necessity of the situation, but it seems like making a decision at all involves certain kinds of judgements, maybe not good-bad judgements but judgments nonetheless.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can make more better judgements, because you're not making judgment accordance with the simple-minded hope and fear. And, usually, we can't make *real* judgements at all. Life becomes completely chaos, because we are making judgements accordance with what we like to have, what we don't like to have, therefore, your vision is completely blocked. So, if you're able to make judgment without perception, without the concept, and seeing the situation as they are, then judgment becomes more sharp and more precise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: And then that's not karmic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's not karmic, yeah. That's right. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4594.0,4665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: How do you know when you're seeing the situation as it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: How do you know when you're seeing the situation as it is? Sometimes it feels very elusive, and then other times it feels very lucid, and sometimes... it doesn't. It’s very hard to tell which is which, which is the way it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that if you see things as they are you find you're completely in tuned with the things as they are. And, if you don't see things as they are, you have to readjust or mold situation according to your wish or your desire, which means watching yourself, observing yourself, and trying to mold yourself in that particular situation, which needs more effort and more ego function at the same time. Which is quite different. Seeing things as they are does not need too much energy, but energy happens. It vibrates by itself. And, if you don't see things as they are, you have to spend more energy trying to make things-- mold things into your-- according to your particular design. So it seem to be quite obvious in a sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4665.0,4751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, the Scientology people say that this is sort of a process of reactive mind, like we've been conditioned for so many years and, therefore, we have a reactive mind that acts to stimuli and situations. And they have a process of removing the reactive mind and, therefore, seeing things as it is. Like because they say that the impressions are so deep that they have to come to the surface. How does this relate to Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, it's-- I mean, as far as simple logic is concerned, it seem to be perfectly coincide what Buddhism had to say. But if you look in terms of struggle or achievement, that if you have a particular purpose and goal, that you are the separate entity beyond your achievement. So there's great separation between you and your projections. And you begin to play a game of conquering something, sort of, battle, sort of battle situation trying to gain what you have lost. And it seem to be extremely ambitious. And which in itself create tremendous bad karmic situation of aggression and passion, and leads back to ignorance it seems from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4751.0,4839.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Rinpoche, does confusion offer space to a question or does that offer a lot of seeds being sown very quickly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Confusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Confusion. Does that does that, in itself, offer space or does that make a lot of seeds-- seed planting very quickly in succession?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's very complicated discussion at this point. And I could say that-- we could say that it's both. That confusion provides stimulating openness to wisdom. At the same time, confusion also drags you back to further confusion. So it seem to be whether it is introverted confusion or extraverted confusion. In terms of introverted confusion, that you are purely trying to maintain yourself all the time on and on, which seemed that regressing process. Whereas, if it's extraverted confusion, that confusion is a source of further odyssey, further adventure, and leads you into an understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4839.0,4924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: I feel like I'm opening up a Pandora box, but it seems to be not an identity, some kind of a parallel with the Christian ideas of sin, redemption, and rebirth in this whole idea of karma and release from karma. Can you say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any particular parallels. That basically, in Christian tradition, that there's-- to begin with there's ego, there's self. And your ego and your self or your soul never diminish, always become greater or transform itself into better situation, constantly. And also, fundamentally, that you be, basically, condemned person to begin with, with original sin. That you-- what you've done is inescapable, that you are bad altogether, so you had to promise, you had to reform, which means that... your blackness had to trying to become your whiteness. And all those kind of dichotomies involved with that process rather than growth process, organic process, as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Seems like a very... I don't know almost a view of kind of a puritanical kind of Christianity. Somehow it seems to me that, for example, the idea of Adam, myself as Adam, would be myself, as you know, this person without karma. I don't know, it just-- it seems like a different kind of Christianity than I've seen. I mean, there are-- there is that kind of Christianity. I understand that. There's... I don't think-- maybe I'm reaching for something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibility. Well, I'm sure you can look at from their point of view, but if you get into the orthodox and dogmatic circles of theology, would say quite the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=4924.0,5114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Rinpoche, is it possible that the original sin might have referred to the sin of ignorance and taking on a human body, not being able to hold on to the-- their light in the death state. And, therefore, any one who has taken on a body, through ignorance, has that original sin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, the idea of original sin is that you be tempted to commit sin. And, therefore, you been seduced by suggestion of don't get tempted into your sin. Like, \"Don't eat this particular apple.\" And, by such suggestion, you be tempted to eat apple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Does not Buddhism speak of the simple sort of ignorance as like stupidity being a sin and sin is done out of stupidity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think they talk about sin as such as sin in the Christian terms, but it's more of a mistake than sin. You see, when you talk about mistakes, you have more room to move about. When you talk about sin, you are absolutely bad, black. And Buddhism talks about it's cosmic mistake that you made.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: But mistake--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In terms of ignorance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: What I seem to get though is that, well, mistakes seems to be a lesser type of sin, but still it's going to have karmic result. And whether it's a lesser or greater karmic result it still is on the same line as sin.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so at all. It's... such mistakes doesn't have to be confessed or washed out, but just realized you value the sin or the confusion as inspiration to realization. You see, that's the whole idea is based on the relativity of the situation. In fact, that you are thankful you have reached such state of confusion, which inspires the enlightenment. Without your confusion you cannot have such idea as enlightenment at all. It's a very, very delightful attitude, delightful situation. According to [laughs] Nagarjuna's philosophy of relative law, law of relativity, that nothing to be ashamed about it, but your mistakes are the source of inspirations. That if you are-- the very concept of primordial Buddha is because there's primordial confusion, which create primordial Buddha. So therefore, that create a new language to communicate with confused mind. So birth of Buddha was born out of birth of ignorance to begin with. So it was tremendous exciting situation, energetic situation, which is very delightful, very beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: This seems to speak highly of original sin then as original sin being the only way we can achieve enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, precisely. I mean, [laughter] yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: So Christianity then does make a parallel with Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know about that. [Laughter] Christianity doesn't praise of... I haven't come across within the Christian literatures of praise original sin. And it's something private parts, something that to be ashamed of.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Uh, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=5114.0,5353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Wouldn’t-- couldn’t they praise it in that fashion then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Wouldn't they praise it by denying it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Wouldn't they be praising original sin by denying it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's... that level it is too literal- minded. That you be intoxicated in your... mistake. That you feel thoroughly that you made bad job. That there's all sorts of ideas of purity and transforming. In fact, that human beings cannot attain union with God without going through the medium of Christ, which is in itself is rejecting the direct access to intelligence mind without using some intermediary language. Which is looking down up on their language. I mean, regarding as human beings as stupid person who need some directions to link. They need interpreter, because they can't speak the language. Stupid native. 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[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Don't you remember you saying that they might get tired?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: And [INAUDIBLE] [laughter] I heard you on a tape say go from one world to the other of these six worlds, back and forth. And it seemed to me like it would be just as tiresome to go back and forth as it would to remain in heaven. I mean, it's not very pleasant to be in hell after being in heaven. I’m just wondering if some of these beings didn't just stay in heaven without coming out of heaven? Is that possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question. Can you say that again just--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Is it possible that there's some beings that don't go out of heaven--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some beings, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Don't go out of heaven, out of that heaven world.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Isn't that possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If they're in heaven.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If they're in heaven at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: If they're in heaven at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And they discovered--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You mean, they might be in heaven and not really [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is possible that people in heaven, in the dualistic sense, find it is extremely claustrophobic situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Extremely what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They would-- claustrophobic situation. They want to get out of... they want to get out of this heaven, which is too comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Do we have anybody here in the room who can speak from first person experience about this? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: First person experience about this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think everybody is. [Laughter] That Americans don't like-- a lot of young Americans don't like ultimate comfort. They find that is imprisonment. Instead of living in a central heated, air-conditioned apartment, luxurious place in New York or Washington or wherever it's may be, and they rather camp on the open air.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, how about the people that don't like hell? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ah! That's another matter. [Laughter] Then they look good. Then they go back to heaven, then they come back again.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] heaven again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh well, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=5443.0,5609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: It seems that after a while we begin to realize that heaven and hell are mental concepts and don't really pertain to the physical surroundings. Because on the one hand, if you live in a penthouse with nice furniture and you have good clothes and central heating, you consider that heaven. Then after a while your mind changes and you consider it hell. So the situation itself wasn't heaven or hell but how you interpreted it. Now, when you cease interpreting, you don't actually have to change your environment. You could stay in a-- you-- in a hut or a penthouse and depending on your mind that would be either heaven or hell or neither.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well said. Mmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I thought heaven was a state of complete absorption?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but then you get tired of that absorption. At the same time, you have to try to get absorbed all the time. Trying to reach that complete absorption all the time. You need a lot of maintenance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=5609.0,5673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95057/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking about maintenance, we might close our maintaining... discussion. Could meet together again tomorrow if anybody wishes. Thanks.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=5673.0,5700.04894"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711118VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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[INAUDIBLE].\nThere's no sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=61.4,66.081"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Related with what we discussed\nlast night--\nis this audible?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=68.8,73.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\n[laughter] Just 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Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2788.34,2789.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE]\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=2789.6,2794.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When does\nthis karma supposed to 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Yeah.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3162.3,3166.364"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if\nhe's tense and paranoid","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526#t=3168.66,3176.482"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174109/file/313526/transcript/95058/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that my little move\ncould make him 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