{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/4b2x34pq6k/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1970-09-29: Work Sex Money I: Talk 2: Work: Simplicity and Awareness"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1970-09-29"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boston, Massachusetts, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/662/show\"\u003eWork Sex Money I\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: Work: Simplicity and Awareness"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Everyday Life"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDiscusses our relationship to work, and its dependence on state of mind and connection to the earth. Common attitudes toward work mirror patterns of ego: frantic speediness or avoidant laziness. Every move we make has spiritual significance, and a balanced state of mind depends on the attention paid to the subtleties of life. For example, Japanese Tea Ceremonies: pouring tea correctly, dealing with things deliberately, and clearing up at the end. For proper spiritual development to take place, and to become immersed in skillful action, we must simplify ourselves down to an ordinary, earthbound, kitchen-sink or factory level -- work as self-expression and engaging with others, very simply.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 5: Meditation in Action: Work (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 4: Simplicity and Awareness (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2: Selected Writings: Work: Seeing Ordinary Things with Extraordinary Insight (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 13 2026 to Mar 04 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1970"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDiscusses our relationship to work, and its dependence on state of mind and connection to the earth. Common attitudes toward work mirror patterns of ego: frantic speediness or avoidant laziness. Every move we make has spiritual significance, and a balanced state of mind depends on the attention paid to the subtleties of life. For example, Japanese Tea Ceremonies: pouring tea correctly, dealing with things deliberately, and clearing up at the end. For proper spiritual development to take place, and to become immersed in skillful action, we must simplify ourselves down to an ordinary, earthbound, kitchen-sink or factory level -- work as self-expression and engaging with others, very simply.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260331-1167548-n1rlk4.mpga"]},"duration":5440.26919,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/307/001/original/open-uri20260331-1167548-n1rlk4.mpga?1774976257","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5440.26919,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19700929VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19700929VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boston - Work Sex Money I - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. seminar on Work, Sex, and Money held at the East-West Center in Boston, Massachusetts. This is Talk Two, \"Work\", given September 29th, 1970. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=0.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The subject today, I think we talk about work. And it is the same thing in every case in the lives, that like what we discussed yesterday, everything is connected with problem of ego, and relationship of ego. That work also has a great deal of to do with relationship of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=22.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is always a kind of either that one would like to work frantically. That you would like to close all the space, fill all the space. And doesn't allow to develop any creative process at all. Or else, there's a kind of laziness of against doing any kind of work. That one would like-- one would regard the work as something that one should revolt against. Which also means afraid of the creativity. So now you have two examples: that is the filling all the space, and not afraid-- not willing to embark into the creative process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=64.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And these two types are quite common with work; therefore the both of them have some relationship to ego. It has the basic kind of ego's manifestation: that in one case like the development of ego, where there's first started on the process of-- evolutionary process of consciousness in ego. Instead of letting be, instead of let to develop the creative process, then one tend to automatically impose one's next clue into the ego, because then there is this fear that you don't have to see your basic origin. Whenever you see the basic origin it is, in a sense defeat for ego. Because of this defeat of ego then this becomes very embarrassing, to see one's basic nakedness quality. And therefore one tend to also afraid of embarking on a further creative process as well as seeing the space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=133.0,224.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in work generally, doesn't necessarily mean that one should always use the kind of common sense alone. I mean this is the general kind of notion we have, that if you feel that you have to work, you need to work, then you just work. And if you don't feel that you need to work, then stop working and do something else. Which means that one doesn't have a proper kind of relationship to the feeling of the work itself. In this case, work doesn't necessarily mean earning money and doing job. But it is a creative process of activity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=224.0,272.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now let's take the first example of filling the space. This kind of particular personality, of that person would like to fill the space is one kind of neurotic process again, very much so. This kind of neurosis is, it seems, quite common, particular in the West; could be in the East as well. So that work becomes kind of way of escape. Whenever person find depressing, or afraid of anything, or the situation of life is not going smoothly, then immediately either you start polishing table or weeding the garden or something. Trying to find something to do. And that seems to be an escape. And that seems to be kind of letting-- let the [INAUDIBLE] of ego go on. It seems to be kind of one is acting as what-- acting as kind of same pattern as the mental state of ego, if physically one is actually doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=272.0,387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because the worker this case doesn't have real communication with the actual work itself at all. It is just a way of escape, or it is just way of not look into the basic problem. Doesn't want to solve the solve the basic problem. In this case person is very much involved with the momentum process. That person seeks kind of pleasure of the moment. In the wrong way, person is living at the-- living at the now, living at the moment. But this is the wrong way of living at the moment. Because he or her doesn't feel that could cope with analyzing and looking back and learning from the basic problem. Automatically tend to feel this space as a physical space, as well as mental space, spiritual space. The space of any empty corner seems too frightened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=387.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Often one tend to find such example in the way they decorate their house. Whenever there is empty wall, automatically put something else up, another picture or another thing in it. So the result is, each time when there is a feeling of space, you fill up with that gap. So result is way of interior decoration of their room become completely filled with things and things and things. Completely crowded. And more you crowd the more you feel comfortable, because you don't have to deal with any unknown area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=462.0,505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not only that, but moment when you see just a spot of dirt, or spot of dust on somewhere, that represents so much that you have to immediately come to clean that away. Every dust, every spark of dust, becomes a kind of intrusion into your space. And one have to clear away and put your things in it. So therefore one is busy trying to fill the gap all the time, completely all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=505.0,542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And not only that, then person-- a lot of people begin to find when they left their-- when they finish their job, and if they're living on pension, old-age pension or whatever it may be, then they would like to again take a job and occupy themselves. Otherwise one is afraid of losing your speed, your constant going forward. Obviously that is occupation; the going forward is a kind of occupation this case. Which is very much neurotic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=542.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the other case, that react against taking job or working, is that also blindness, as well as kind of not having enough intelligence, not using the intelligence. We find in many cases a lot of young people tend to react against taking a job -- or working for that matter. But that is also refusing to associate yourself with the practicality of life, refusing to associate yourself with earth itself. And refusing to associate yourself with the earth means a great deal. Because that person has tremendous intelligence, whether person is young or old. Has a tremendous intelligence. And because of this intelligence, then begin to see the problems: if you embark yourself in a creative process then you don't have to-- then you don't stop, you have to continuously involve on and on. One kind of work would involve next kind of work. And that means completely working on oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=589.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see the whole point is that whatever we do physically, also associate state of mind. And everything, every move that we make, physical level, has spiritual significant in every sense. This may sound very airy-fairy but it is so. In this case there's no such thing as really spirituality as a sort of pious and religious thing necessarily. But spirituality means the truth of fact, the isness, and the actual fact of life. And every situation has bearing with one's psychology, the true psychology, the absolute aspect of mind, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=687.0,741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So a person could be very, very intelligent in this case, of refusing to work. That one feels too lazy to go into anything. One would rather like to daydream or think about something. Which also has I suppose kind of anarchistic element. If you do something constructive, practical, then it is connected with society. It is connected with taking care of something. And that seems to be very threatening, because they don't want to help to maintain a developed society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=741.0,799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that seems to be the wrong kind of end of the stick. That one is doing the wrong thing. If you don't want to help the society, materialistic society, by not taking part in the work practicality, it's not going to do anything at all. That is only going to magnify that your negativity more than anything else. That you are going to be useless in the society; you are not going to help anything at all. And if you're really going on and on into this kind of non-participation in society, then the last thing you should need -- you shouldn't breathe. Because the air that you're breathing is also belongs to society or world as well. So this could go too far. That you shouldn't exist at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=799.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think there's a great deal of confusion about society, and materialistic society. Materialistic society doesn't mean that being business-like, or running one's business. Nothing wrong with that at all. But materialistic society means the *psychological* materialism. The materialism has very profound oral kind of philosophy that had been handed down and taught to everyone, by examples. It is that everyone picks up and catch from one person to another. And that is the psychological materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=868.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this case the psychological materialism is that we should revolt against, or that we should try to do something about it, rather than purely not doing anything, not caring for anything. So that person must develop this kind of, in this case, of laziness, the pretense laziness, must have to develop another kind of intelligence. Because laziness also has a tremendous intelligence in it as well. Because immediately when you don't want to do something, immediately there is a kind of answer that automatically comes at you; you can present that answer. \"I didn't do that. I didn't have a time, because of so-so, and I didn't have a chance to do it, because of this and that.\" There is automatically kind of answer comes to you. Which is very convenient and also you are very intelligent to catch on that particular kind of answers. But this is misusing of knowledge, misusing of intelligence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=920.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The way-- the best way of using intelligence seems to be is learn to feel that wherever situation need to be put into skillful way, one really should go and relate yourself with the earth directly, as much as possible. So that we don't regard work as just work, as a job, but work is just a way of expressing yourself. It could be working in the garden, or it could be working in the house, cooking food, washing up dishes, or whatever it's may be. They are not really jobs, but they are-- the nature demands attention.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=992.0,1061.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very interesting, that if you left something, if you did some-- if you create some chaos on the process of working, like for instance cooking or just small matter like that. Then if you did these process, if you involved with that process with not full, clear thinking process, of real relating yourself with the cooking process properly at all, that something is going to happen, some kind of chaos is going to start. Because you are not relating-- you are not expressing your love properly, to the earth. Either you're going to break a dish or you're going to spill something and you're cooking turn out to be badly. Or something always tend to happen. Nature tend to react in this way, very, very sensitively. It always works like that. If you don't feel the relationship of work and yourself, then something's going to turn out to chaos. Although I myself not that much of cook. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1061.0,1150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one's balanced state of mind depends on the way you do things, way you pour a cup of tea in the cup, and way you put your sugar and milk in it. It could be very insignificant thing. But it could mean *everything*. I mean you can always tell whether person feels the work as feeling, work as dealing with earth, or just as some casual thing. Or something that you *had* to do it. You always feel this-- able to see this clumsiness as a smoothness, very easily, and will be quite evidential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1150.0,1217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That also associate with how to run your life, and how to deal your life, in generally. If one don't feel that every step, every situation has some spiritual significant, on and on and on and on and on, then one's pattern of life becomes full of chaos and full of problems. And one begin to wonder where these problems comes. They just spring out of nowhere, because they demand attention. They demand, \"Something is wrong, and we want attention.\" Because you refuse to see the subtlety of life. And if you able to see the subtlety of life, if we pay attention, they don't demand attention. And somehow you can't cheat, you can't pretend that you can pour cup of tea beautifully. You can't act it. You can't cheat. You have to actually feel it, feel with the-- feeling the earth, and your relationship to it. And having started one must finish everything, in the work as well. I'm just talking in terms of domestic thing I suppose, but this could relate to anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1217.0,1310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very interesting to watch tea ceremony. I don't know how many of you have watch it. But tea ceremony begins with the collecting bowl and napkin and tea spoon, and boiling water and everything. Everything is deliberately done, properly done. And the tea has been served, and the guests will also drink deliberately, with feeling of dealing with things, properly. And important thing is also the ceremony includes how to clean the bowls, how to put away, how to finish. The clearing away seems to be important as well as the starting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1310.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generally when we have a kind of first impulse of doing something, we tend to do it, we tend to collect a lot of things which we like to gather. And we just chop them and cook them or whatever we do, with a kind of enthusiasm. And having chopped, having cooked, having churned out a thing, then just we leave them like that. [Laughs; laughter] We don't think ever how to clear them away. And generally some another wise person comes and help you clear it away. If they wise and not saying anything at all, very quietly. Wash up your dishes for you, or clear them away for you. Before you know where they are. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1375.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seems to be the problem always, that every life in the materialistic circle, that there's there is endless, endless advertisement how to buy, how to make things, but doesn't say how to clear them away. So therefore we have a problems of dissolv-- how to clear them away, and how to dispose the garbage. That seems to be biggest problem of all that we have. [Laughter] It is said in the Tibetan saying, \"Better not begin. If you want to begin, mustn't leave mess behind.\" So that is quite interesting, that general lifestyle of work, is not only just to work alone, but how to handle the work, and how to *end* the work.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the things, the objects that we deal with the work is very, very interesting, very important. And they all have -- as I have already said -- this kind of spiritual significant in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1473.0,1614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in the case of the taking job and working outside, in the case of earning money, maybe we talk that tomorrow about connected with the money, but if you say just a few words of it. And that is I think it is extremely important, as long as you are not using in terms of escape, or way of ignoring the basic existence of a problem, then it is better to work. It may be in terms of running your own business, or it may be in terms of working for somebody else. But it is necessary. I think it is tremendously important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1614.0,1690.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Particularly if one is interested in spiritual development, that always the problem. And difficulties arises from your relationship with somebody else, and your relationship with the mess, your relationship with the people, and objects and things. And also this is kind of one of the most subtle way of bringing discipline into oneself, if one's really able to work. But one doesn't have to look down upon them, if you work in a factory. One doesn't have to look down upon them as producing materialistic things, and looking down upon them the other workers. One learns tremendous great deal things from the other people as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1690.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that all these problems comes from kind of sophistication of analytical mind. That you don't want involve physically anyway at all, and you purely want to work so sort of intellectually or mentally. This is sort of spiritual problem. If anyone thought of spiritual-- anyone who's interested in spiritual development think in terms of importance of the mind, understanding the greater understanding or higher understanding, deeper understanding, that sort of mysterious airy-fairy, highest and deepest thing that whatever is may be that we would like to learn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1762.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when we talk of highest and deepest and most profound, transcendental thing, that strangely enough a transcendental thing and a profound thing exist on the kitchen sink, or in the factory. It may not be particularly blissful to look at, it may not be particularly good as we read about spiritual experiences, but somehow the actual reality exist there. The simplicity of people and working with people, and dealing with the every problems that you been given to do, also brings tremendous depth, tremendous experience of dealing with situations, dealing with things, as I've already said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1817.0,1874.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you're actually working in a factory, or anywhere, running your business or whatever its may be, then you come across with all sorts of types of people, and all sorts of types of things that you are doing have always been with your own state of being. Has also a very subtle quality of-- a simplicity or-- quality. The sort of-- I think we are lacking in this case, if one searching for spirituality, of the peasant quality, the earthbound quality very much is we are lacking very much. And that is one of the most beautiful, one of the most sane and beautiful and balanced kind of quality that you can't miss, sort of tribal quality, tribal quality. The peasants' quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1874.0,1945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we-- you have this kind of earthbound quality of simplicity, then in fact you won't have any problems of dealing with your mind at all. Because everything worked very balanced, very earthbound way, everything's dealt properly and thoroughly, and simply. And we often see that these-- feel they left civilization so far, of like Indian peasants in India, or American Indians, or Mexicans or whatever you see. They have tremendous spark of eye-- sparkling eye. And they have tremendous kind of quality of earthbound. A sanest-- there's something sane about them! Because they worked, they dealt with situations with their own hands. Also they have tremendous sort of rough and rugged and powerful qualities as well. Because if you look at their faces, almost impossible to imagine that they could freak out. [Laughs; laughter] Something sane about them, something very solid about them, and practical about them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=1945.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such people was Buddha, or Christ, in the past were one of those people. Who lived very simply, who lived-- spend a long time with the peasants and simple people. And such people who wrote the Vedas and Dhammapada and all the great scriptures, they are not intelligence like intellectual, highly-strung people, in general intellectual people that we talk about at all. They are very simple people. They lived very simple-like life. They fetch their own water, and they boil their own water, cook their tea and soup by purely chopping wood. And they learn how to deal with situations of domestic matters as well as how to learn live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2043.0,2115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think in order to really spiritually develop properly, and in order to become completely immersed in the skillful action, that one have to also simplify ourselves very much. Simplify into the ordinary level, the ordinary earthbound level, of simplicity. And if we are able to simplify ourselves up to that level, then of course we'll be able to see the other aspect as well. Because there will be tremendous differences in state of mind as well, if we able to really simplify that level. Then whole pattern of thinking, whole this internal game that goes on becomes much less that of game. It becomes very practical way of thinking in situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I think work, and relationship to work is therefore, this case based on one's state of mind, how we relate ourself with the earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd perhaps we could stop there, and some discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2115.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, could you speak a little bit about awareness of oneself during the process of working?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's also very important. Generally if a person practiced meditation, in this case meditation is the same subject as the leap, what we be discussed the other day. Leap this case is experiencing the openness, experiencing the space, the openness of the space. And this applies to work as well, in the case of one's state of mind. That is also connected with very much of bringing the earth and air together. That you can't feel earth unless you feel the air. More you feel the air that you feel the earth. That is to say the feeling of space between you and objects. Which becomes a natural kind of awareness of openness, peace and lightness automatically one begin to feel.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the way to practice this is not necessarily concentrate on thing. Or trying to be aware of yourself and try to manage the job at the same time. But a general feeling of acknowledge our existence of this openness while you work. And then one begin to feel there's more room to do things, more room to work. It is question of acknowledging existence of the openness of continual meditative state, but you don't have to try to hold onto it, or try to bring this about deliberately. But just pure acknowledgement of that state is quite enough. Acknowledge of that kind of vast energy, of openness, and just flash to it. Just acknowledge and fraction of a second of flash of acknowledging it. And having acknowledged, then almost don't try-- almost sort of deliberately ignore it, its existence. And then continue with your work. Then this feeling of openness continues, and one begin to develop the actual feel of the situation, feel of the things that you're working with, very, very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd so therefore the awareness as we talk about is not question of constant awareness, as object of mind, but just become one with awareness, become one with the open space. Which means become one with the actual things that you're dealing with as well of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo whole thing becomes very easy and a one-way process, rather than trying to split into different sections or different degrees of awareness. And one begin to have a real relationship with objects, and beauty of the objects as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2215.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If you say if you become aware of the openness first then you will naturally become one with what you're working with, rather than trying very hard to become one, what you're working-- you try to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --be aware of the openness first.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And then it happens, it follows naturally.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. And not try to possess the openness but just acknowledge and then turn away from it. This is important, to turn away from it, because if you try to possess it then you have to chase them away; you have to follow them. Which you can't actually-- then you can't possess it at all. But if you left them and ignored them, and then continue work then they-- this feeling follows you all the way along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2460.0,2507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't understand what you mean by openness in work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the openness-- I mean, in the terms of meditative state of uncomplicated, as the simplicity. And that simplicity presents kind of feeling of openness. The opposite of that is complicated-ness of it. And the absence of complications becomes simplicity. That simplicity means there's room to do things, room to move about. Which continues with everyday's action as well. I mean the absence of complications really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2507.0,2576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you go into a little more detail about the psychology of materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, I think it's the same as the... what we been talking about, the openness and complication. That in general psychological materialism is tremendous feeling behind activities, and behind action, that you want to fulfill. There's a tremendous kind of graspingness, possessiveness with the situations. That in other word, taking the logic too seriously. And try to follow the whole lead by deliberate graspingness. And that almost kind of there's a painful state of mind, that you would like to fulfill certain actions, you would like to follow the competitive mind. And there's a kind of general heaviness of pursuing things. The heaviness of mind in pursuing things. Which *is* material thing, which is very heavy sort of metallic state of mind. But if one try to change this metallic state of mind, then everything's becomes kind of purely fascination for objects, pure fascination to things, rather than thinking and feeling them. Which is kind of plastic world as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis kind of materialistic mind has all these two qualities -- the heaviness and fascination. And both the heaviness and fascination represents -- I'm sure in a similar way in modern world the aluminum quality, metallic quality, and plastic quality of it. The fascination is pure fascination to colors, rather than actual things as they are. And the heaviness of metallic quality is pursuing so much of kind of state of mind that has this heaviness. There's no room to have sense of humor, or there's no room to create further thinking at all. Everything must be worked out and numbered one by one.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich is-- which also turned out to be in actual process of action as well, but that is the product of mind itself. The mind has more demonic and more powerful aspect of that in it, automatically. And the actual application of things becomes, in a sense less horrific and less demonic, than the actual state of mind which has these heaviness, solidness. That as though instead of the space that whole space is filled with cement; whole space is completely filled with metal, or plastic. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich is therefore people tend to develop tremendous fear of claustrophobic. Not only the material things there, but because psychologically that they begin to feel all their psychologies turned into aluminum and plastic. That there's no room to move, room to do things at all. Instead of open room it becomes a solid room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2576.0,2866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But doesn't it seem like the more people become attached to material things can-- and they hate them. The more materialistic they are, the more they hate things in the end, so that they turn them into rubbish and everything becomes garbage and rubbish. As soon as it's been used it's cast aside and no longer valued. And so the object in itself is no longer really considered. It's just a thing, with no value.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yes. Well I think people do find that-- this is one of the interesting point, that more you find this intensity of psychological materialism, that our primeval intelligence doesn't just give in. And one begin to find something's wrong in it. Which is what's happening, particularly in the Western world, of searching for something beyond materialistic outlook. And I think, in fact, I don't really have to explain about psychological materialism; a lot of people automatically feel it. And that heaviness and crowdedness automatically brings doubt. And that doubt then inspires you to search something beyond it. And people then begin to find something beyond the materialistic thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich is what's happening. Therefore I think one can't condemn this world as a complete failure or completely bad. Because the basic kind of-- the buddha nature or the spiritual intelligence thrives all along the way. And that never going to leave, and never going to abandon, never going to give in. And whenever there is something we found, like form of answer, then automatically that this kind of intelligence works, that this answer isn't real answer. Which means the person had already found answer, in the form of a question. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=2866.0,3025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I wonder if you could explain, or elaborate what you mean by the \"demonic\" potential of the ego, or the unconscious or the mind, something like that. You've used it a couple of times, and I'm not sure I really understand exactly what it is that you mean by demonic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in the case of psychological materialism, and demonic in a sense of something terribly cruel, about not allowing any space. Something terribly kind of self-destructive about that. I mean demonic in the sense of this could be said of that of evil, feeling of evil, or bad. Because that kind of state of mind contains self-destructive, never allows any kind of freedom at all. And the more you feel there is something to work on, the more we tend to put in. So this become endless kind of a... becomes a kind of endless chain reaction process.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean demonic in the sense of that without air. I mean the sense of sort of death, connected with death, really. As though that there's no windows open in the room at all. Completely suffocating. This kind of connected with-- associated with the death. There is nothing thriving and nothing growing, nothing developing further. But everything is collected in and collected in and never letting to develop anything at all. But still already space has been filled, but one tend to collect more and more, until completely break down, completely break away from it. And this is kind of a suicidal process, of ego's hunger. Which is I suppose associated with the death, associated with something that hasn't got sense of humor, something that hasn't got the exuberant quality. Very mean and very possessive, collecting always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=3025.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Can you say something about reincarnation and about like, you know, with respect to this material thing? Well, I don't know if they're all in my mind, but Scientology is in my mind, reincarnation. How many times should I actually be [INAUDIBLE], how to pick it up? And, like, the idea of evil, like do we have to, you know, the mission to destroy? I mean like, because if we have mission to destroy it, I mean like we are alone. How to treat as an exercise of growth, or like an existential thing, you know? That God doesn't take care of it, we have to take of it. Do you understand my question? Do you know about Scientology in America--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --Ron Hubbard and-- yeah the idea of having-- how these other things relate to the idea [INAUDIBLE] on this level. I mean not in a high level, just this level.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Scientology, reincarnation, [laughter] the problem of evil, you know as like the, you know like the Bhagavad Gita.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Some exercise, you know so that you grow up. Or is it something deeper and you know like what's [INAUDIBLE], to serve this type of a God, to [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are these things kind of a Zen and science, and esoteric [laughter], and nature I guess. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You know, Scientology. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It was a minimal question--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How about reincarnation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see... I don't know which way to begin.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Scientology!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Scientology, okay. Evil and God right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And reincarnation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the whole point is, I don't think that we have to run the world exactly, but we have to run ourselves, whether we want it or not. That we are the world. So that simplifies a lot. [Laughter] And the whole point of evil, as I have already mentioned, evil isn't something all that necessarily bad as we know, but evil is that which destroys to develop or grow. And, we don't have to necessarily work with evil. Generally the confused mind tend to do that. As we have already mentioned in the last question about this, the-- this case also I suppose evil means solidness, and no room to develop anything at all. We tend to automatically do that sort of self-destructive thing. All the time collecting things and not digesting them, but by process of collecting them, and not let digest, we tend to destroy ourselves. Until you end up in a kind of eternal mental home, or whatever have you -- which could be called confused state of hell. I don't mean the physical mental home on this earth, but a permanent kind of what is known in the Buddhist tradition as \"vajra hell\". It's the permanent hell that perpetually continues the hallucinations all the time, of confusion. That there is no way of getting out of this confusion. So that's the kind of evilhood or the egohood.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in the case or reincarnation, that just life continues as they grow, or the consciousness continues. I don't mean to say that physical death and birth; that's very crude example of rebirth. But in the rebirth takes place in every moment; that every moment you die and you born again. This birth and death takes place all the time, on and on and on. So as long as there's a kind of consciousness which dies and gives birth to the next moment exist, then that is continuity of reincarnation, rebirth.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that depends on one's state of consciousness, then you give similar kind of birth to the next moment as well. Depends on whether that this particular consciousness has the negative quality or the positive quality, that continues over as you give birth to the next moment. Like the minutes of hour goes past on minutes and seconds and hours in the night, and-- as well as during the day.\r\n\r\n\r\nHave I answered your questions? Perhaps not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=3211.0,3635.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well I mean I thought that reincarnation or I mean the whole idea of the renewal and all that-- I mean have a very, a much lesser question, a very small technical questions. Like, people don't seem to know that they have lived before, mainly because I know I can't remember what happened before in my last life. I mean I-- in a way I've never really understood this rebirth thing right at the moment. And that's the essential, key thing. I'm questioning a much simpler thing than-- Like people do like to know. I mean, the question is controversial. Many-- most people don't seem to remember how many times they have lived before and what they did before. And most people seem to think that once one remembers, there is a way at least of tapping that experience. Maybe-- I mean actually really not experience in our present life. You know I haven't obviously-- I understand that I should you know work on this life first. I will do that, but in the meantime I still like to think, you know, how much more material I'm going to work over. And people will say that death, you know, occurs mainly because without it things would be so damn painful. That you know you should be thankful there is such a thing as death and you're forgetting. But then, you know since I am essentially a garbage man; I like to think that there is a way of making use of this garbage. It's like-- I mean essentially it's fighting the gods. I mean that's the [INAUDIBLE] our position--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Essential what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Essentially fighting the gods. I mean it's like the nature of existence is such that it makes sense forget what we have done before. I mean I don't know why also, you know, why you, you know, we have to make a child grow for about ten, twenty years. And then, you know-- I don't know, this seems-- in a certain way I understand the recycling thing, you know, you clean up every time you die, you clean up. But like I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't clean up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --don't imagine all the schemes you know where you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --there's another way of cleaning up, you know, which-- [Laughter] Like you can have a [INAUDIBLE]. I mean the whole idea of extending medical science, live longer. I mean the whole condemnation of materialism, people grab things because they think this is it, so you grab, right? I mean it's a very-- it's all tied together. I know it's an important question, I'm just putting [INAUDIBLE] in it. I mean like Scientology, I know Scientology are able, they claim they are able to, technologically, they are using an e meter, a very simple [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --to get you, you know, [INAUDIBLE] he got that by accident. And people actually can remember their past, and he could put some cases. And you know I [INAUDIBLE] suppose sixty percent of what he claims is true, okay. That's enough. Many because university don't even know ten percent. I mean don't even care for ten percent what he does. Apparently, I mean. Therefore forgotten [INAUDIBLE] esoteric. So, well let me [INAUDIBLE] question. [Laughter] I don't know, I like to know, you know, just for-- first for the fun of it, maybe because I've never been told before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And I've heard it-- and besides it's really strange, you know, like, like I can't remember my past. Except for this explanation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't remember your past?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --how death was good for me, you know. If it wasn't for that death I'd be so tired, I mean like God is essentially good for-- So in the same way the Hitler phenomenon is very good for Europe. Without it, I mean Europe would be so sick now, you know, I mean imagine especially with atomic power. And maybe it's a good thing to kill ourselves before the atomic thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I mean now sometime I think that's a pretty neat explanation, but I think it's bullshit sometime. I mean that kind of-- it's like you know, it's like the most grotesque obscene rationality for it. And mainly because I can think of many other schemes you know like from a child's mind, a fairy tale, where things would be different. [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you remember your past, yeah. I don't think you have to prove it particularly. If you can't stop your consciousness, if you can't kill your consciousness or stop consciousness this moment, then this must exist continuously. I know a lot of people have had experiences, it needn't be particularly Scientologists, but lot of just ordinary people have experiences. I met quite a number of people who had experience of their past. And there was-- in England there was a Catholic family and their daughter died. And they had another daughter a few years later. And that daughter did exactly the same as the previous daughter did. And one day that daughter said-- daughter was crossing the road with the father, and suddenly daughter said, \"I don't want to cross this road. This is where it happened last time, isn't it Daddy?\" Where the accident actually occurred. And a similar thing happened with a lot of people. But I don't want to particularly lead them as kind of speculative and trying to prove, and particularly trying to win people on my side so to speak. But there is this kind of evidence, if one is looking for evidence.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut the main point is that consciousness continues all the time. It can't be destroyed. It continues all the time, even while we're asleep. Or if we're unconscious. Consciousness continues all the time. So that is-- seems quite reasonable kind of evident quite enough. Quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnybody want to say something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=3635.0,4041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I wanted to ask, say we try-- we fill up, we get some empty space and then we try desperately to fill it up. Because we're afraid or depressed, and for that reason we fill up the space quickly, or collect things. In order not to do that, once we have an open space, this fear and depression comes on us, what would be the thing to do in order not to go under the collection of things? I mean would you analyze the fear and the depression that would be leading you to make this collection of things and fill up the space? What would you do with the fear and depression, of an empty space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think a lot of problems is that in fact we don't actually experience the empty space but habitually we tend to collect more and more. But as long as we feel the empty space and openness, then there is leading point. Which wouldn't be very difficult, as just take a leap to the empty space, and not try to question about anything at all. This feeling of empty space may be very unpleasant to start with, but just take leap to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I mean, talking about leaping into this empty space, are you talking about meditation in particular or are you talking about just life in general?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm talking meditation particular, and from meditation the inspiration of life automatically comes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: In other words instead of-- if you have a free moment, instead of filling it up-- filing up your time with reading a book for instance, just sit and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Face it. [Laughs; laughter] Yes. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And you said yesterday it's better to be bored than to fill up--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --[INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE] so much that... Because it is boring when you don't know what you're doing; you're just sitting there and you think \"I must be doing this wrong, and I don't see all these things,\" and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well boredom comes often kind of one is repeating same thing again and again--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --when the boredom arises. That means one is mentally trying to sort of psychologically chewing chewing gum. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But this business of the constant rushing, and thoughts through my mind, that's the hard thing to deal with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is very difficult to deal with in many cases, but the whole attitude is if you see them as purely thoughts rather than the subject of thinking, then this kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you think thoughts as purely thinking process, rather than the contents of the thoughts, then that puts kind of attitude towards thoughts in a very impersonal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: In other words don't take them seriously, just think--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: See them as thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --[INAUDIBLE] thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, like if you saw a-- if you're watching crowd, and within this crowd if you saw some of your friends and relatives walking in it, then immediately you associate yourself with that people, and you name them and you dissociate with that per-- those people that you knew as apart from the crowd, and you involve into it. Whereas the other people you just see them as people and don't bother them, don't associate yourself with them particularly. Same thing with the thoughts. Sort of impersonal way of looking at the thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Don't recognize them as friends.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4041.0,4333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Talking about resistance to work, the thing that happens with me and I think might be common is that the feeling that if I were to meet every demand that's made on me, or I think is made on me, I would never have a moment to myself. And I'd be completely consumed by the details of life. And I think that's a root of resistance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You begin to feel--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Just consumed by all the demands made on me, that I've-- I can never begin to meet them all, so I don't try to meet any of them, unless [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole point is not overwhelmed by the-- so many suggestions. But take one as stepping stone. And make relationship with one particular situation, one particular thing. One doesn't have to deal with them all at once. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Just when I deal with one, there's another one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That as soon as one has dealt with there's another one that makes another demand and there's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then you have to keep-- have to be consistent, dealing with one. Like I be-- what I be saying about buying vegetables and cooking and clear them afterwards. Like that. You have to be consistent in the work. You mustn't involve, but once you involve you must go through them completely, and finish the job so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: There are distractions though. I mean the telephone rings or baby cries or even [whispers] [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure that one have to somehow include them all, into the space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4333.0,4438.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Can one really learn to meditate properly without an authentic master to guide your spirit personally?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, because you need kind of relationship, and a sort of-- instead of reading in a books, or thinking about, this kind of manual work is important, the oral relationship, the manual work. If somebody said to you something, which is more valuable than if you read about it. This kind of relationship of manual work is very, very important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What kind of contact should one have with one's master? How often should he see him for example?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on oneself. That master, the teacher, mustn't-- you mustn't choose them because they are famous, because they are clever, or because they are powerful, or anything like that. But one must choose them because they can communicate to you. Because you can communicate to a person almost up to the point of that you don't have to express in terms of words, but person can understand you. And therefore how much relationship that you have established with that person. I mean there is no fixed kind of program, fixed time at all. It is definitely relationship of yourself and your master.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How many such spiritually qualified masters would there be in the Western world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I really don't know. [Laughs; laughter] I'm sure there are lots. There would be immigrated ones and native ones. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4438.0,4571.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: More about work. The thing I found is when I'm doing manual work, say [INAUDIBLE], or say I'm painting a wall. How I'll start out fine for the first hour and a half, and then [INAUDIBLE] and I can't stand any more of this. And the job has to be done and then I don't do it very well, so it gets messy. At that point, there ought to be *something* to do with it, that makes it better. [Laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know what you mean. That's-- this happens with a lot of-- I think largely we be spoiled by automatics. That I remember once we were in the center in Scotland, we were trying to scrape the paint out of-- the old paint out of the wall. And we were doing with the -- what you call the--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Scraper.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Scrapers. And we were doing quite steadily, making quite good progress. And then is-- there's another person who doesn't particularly like to do the such kind of work, and I ask him to do as well. He did it, and after few-- I think about half an hour later, and he said we must buy electric motor, so that [laughter] we can brush off quickly. So we bought it, and we try to use it. And I gave it to him to use it as well. And he says, \"Something wrong with this sandpaper. You have to buy another sandpaper.\" [Laughter] All right, we bought another sandpaper. And still didn't work. And result is we got very rough sandpaper made almost dimple in the-- on the wall. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nI think we're spoiled by too many tools. That we are not quite-- this is why I'm saying there's peasant quality of just working on and on, disregarding that you are making good progress or not. The whole point is if we think in terms of finishing it off, then you don't actually work, you don't make good worker. If you are enjoying the process of working, then you make good worker. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: There is-- there are very, very few examples of the peasant-type of-- in America I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think very few, but we could be one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4571.0,4748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You said before about the way to turn off thoughts was to think of them as, rather than as [INAUDIBLE], but to think of them as, you know, just as thoughts rather than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --the subject matter. I mean, that in itself is a thought. I mean, it's-- you're turning it off by the process of a thought. I don't-- I mean what can you do about this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean if you analyze that way, you have no end at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It becomes an endless chain. So just see them as-- in fact you don't think exactly it's a thought, but you just see them. And that may be thought but that thought doesn't produce any further problem if you don't make *that* into problem. I mean one have to have kind of leading point. And if you really trying to analyze, and if you're really trying to stop thinking altogether in meditation, almost impossible to do it. The meditation itself turn into thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4748.0,4824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well if you let them drift through your mind, is it helpful to try to return to some sort of a mantra or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, return to the main technique that you are doing, whatever its may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean it could be awareness of breathing or could be mantra or could be... anything else. That's why techniques are -- you see, techniques are the, kind of not necessarily the ultimate--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: They're helpful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --ultimate sort of thing, but it is kind of temporary measure. Kind of handle, stepping-stone, that you can come back to. In fact you are not using the technique properly at all. You are just stepping on it. The thing what happens in meditation is beyond mantras, is beyond breathing, awareness breathing. It's sort of beyond physical or beyond particular technical method; the actual meditation happens beyond that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But you begin with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You begin with that, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we should end there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4824.0,4919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I just have one last question, on work. I think I sort of have a pretty good understanding of, you know, the way the ego works to try and fill up the space; the first model of, you know, being preoccupied with just doing thing. But I don't have as good a feel for the second thing you described, the resistance to the whole creativity itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the resistance is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: How the ego gets into that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, the resistance with the creativity is not allowing-- not sort of-- not relating yourself with the earth. There's too much air element. And not allowing yourself with-- associated with earth. And that's the point; not able to appreciate things, objects, properly as they are. Not able to really feel the relationship of you and objects. If you feel relationship-- I mean if you feel relationship with a flower in the wild, automatically you bend down and pick it, you don't feel lazy about it. It's that kind of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What is it about the ego that-- itself that, you know, like, causes that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the basic thing--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: --estrangment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basic thing is there's a kind of fluid communication going on with the object and yourself. And ego doesn't get a chance to digest. Ego doesn't get a report back from you, and your relationship with your work. Because your work becoming kind of natural, spontaneous communication. You and work. And ego doesn't get a chance to act as a middle man. Generally what happens, when whatever we do is always there is kind of-- you begin to do it and you begin to see and ego has this-- these messengers and brings back message back to the switchboard of ego. And then ego takes or rejects. It is everything; it depends on the pleasure of ego rather than anything else. So this case you're sort of working without ego's authority, which is very humiliating in a sense. That is why it is lazy. Because as I said laziness is very intelligent, but you can always find lots of excuses. This is kind of ego's intelligence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4919.0,5088.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Is this ego, is it all bad, the ego? [Laughter] I mean if so, where did it come from? Because-- is ever-- I mean it seems to me that nothing can be all bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing can be all bad, no. But ego comes from confusion. And confusion comes from panic and fear. I mean there's no such thing as definite ego, as such. But ego is made out of different ingredients. And therefore I wouldn't say it is particularly bad, but it is not a very healthy thing. Because if you start with the confusion and ignorance and fear, then that will be just like trying to plant seed in a dust of cement. SPEAKER19: Is it the same as the sense of \"I\", the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sense of \"I\"--?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well then that's being-- it's a feeling of being separate from--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the rest of it. SPEAKER19: --[INAUDIBLE] and that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why-- SPEAKER19: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That is why it's-- that is why panicking. SPEAKER19: Feeling of separation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is why one feels one is away from every-- anything else and begin to feel tremendous insecure. As though you are in the middle of Sahara Desert. One feels tremendous alone. Begin to be threatened by this and that and everything. Then the panic starts and when the panic starts, also the confusion begins with the panic as well. Because when you panic you don't know what you're doing. That's kind of ignorance, put it very crudely. So ego's not creative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=5088.0,5215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92476/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Excuse me, getting back to simplification and peasantry, doesn't it seem that man at one time was closer to ritual purification than he is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Man is--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Do you feel that man at one time maybe was closer to the truth in his living, in his simple daily existence, and if so then are we going downhill, or is it a cycle, or do you feel there's any justification for what we're doing to ourselves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think man is not necessarily going down, but man has created more and more substitutes of all sorts of things. And these sort of tools that man has created becomes overwhelming. The tools becomes bigger and bigger and bigger, finally becomes gigantic house. I mean every sort of factory has the machinery, originally start with, probably, sickle and the knife, spoon, possibly chopsticks. [Laughter; laughs] And all-- instead of all these simple things then, whole thing becomes gigantic thing. Instead you're using the tool, then tool is using you. So I think we're sort of losing the point, this case. Therefore we have to bring back, into the simplicity of it. But somehow if we try to imitate and try to live life of Stone Age, so to speak, then that wouldn't cure the problem at all. Because then it would be leading life of luxury. Another way of form of luxury.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the only way to do is just to have to work with the situations, and trying to develop this peasant quality by working with these machines. I think you *could* develop. That is why I said psychological materialism. If we're able to overcome the psychological materialism then we will be able to work with the machine. Because machine-- or materialism doesn't mean the-- materialism doesn't mean the things; it means the psychological aspect of the materialistic mentality. But I think this is one of the greatest chance, that if we could discover the simplicity from complications, that is greatest discovery that we are making, which is wonderful achievement of mankind. Which we're just about to do. So there would be another cycle of process, of discovering spirituality. Particularly sort of more advanced countries. So, sort of one day we could logically think in terms of instead of us going to India, or Tibet, Japan, trying to study under great teachers there, and one day the Indians and Japanese come to America to study under great Western teachers. Cycle works like that. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=5215.0,5440.26919"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92477","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19700929VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92477/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=0.67,4.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92477/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on Work, Sex, and Money\nheld at the East-West Center\nin Boston, Massachusetts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001#t=4.32,10.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168780/file/307001/transcript/92477/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Two, \"Work\",\ngiven September 29th, 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