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Discipline in relation to devotion. Discusses difference between having a spiritual path and not, in terms of one's life trajectory. Crucial to have a teacher to surrender to, as way of freeing from spiritual materialism. Summary of devotion in hinayana and mahayana -- first toward friend, then toward powerful person who never gives up on you. Radical shift in vajrayana, where the world becomes all-pervading guru, all situations becoming teachings. Vajrayana devotion brings together the head, intellect, and the heart, in tantric approach to world. Self-existing energy that doesn't have to be created as vajrayana experience. In Q\u0026amp;A, nature of surrender; nature of genuine teachings in different spiritual traditions; process of maintaining connection to previous yanas, by losing their dogmas but keeping their essence, higher ideals.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 7: Devotion: The Universality of Guru\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-1863.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 04 2020 to Feb 15 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Mary Beth Kean Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk about the necessity of having a teacher, how teacher functions to link one to the teachings and basic sanity. Discipline in relation to devotion. Discusses difference between having a spiritual path and not, in terms of one's life trajectory. Crucial to have a teacher to surrender to, as way of freeing from spiritual materialism. Summary of devotion in hinayana and mahayana -- first toward friend, then toward powerful person who never gives up on you. Radical shift in vajrayana, where the world becomes all-pervading guru, all situations becoming teachings. Vajrayana devotion brings together the head, intellect, and the heart, in tantric approach to world. Self-existing energy that doesn't have to be created as vajrayana experience. In Q\u0026amp;A, nature of surrender; nature of genuine teachings in different spiritual traditions; process of maintaining connection to previous yanas, by losing their dogmas but keeping their essence, higher ideals.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the Devotional Buddhism of Tibet, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number seven, May 12th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=0.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In conclusion the seminar on devotion, that try to bring the different elements that we discussed together, by looking into a possible way of unifying the three yana principles together in one moment's practice. That seems that discipline is-- goes hand-by-hand with devotion together. That they both are important, to each other. We could say that discipline and devotion are like two wings of a bird. Without both of them together, there is no way. And moreover, without discipline and devotion, that there is no way to relate with the spiritual friend, teacher, or warrior. Without friend, spiritual friend, that there is no way of realizing the teaching, the teachings. And well, needless to say without the teachings, that there is no way of developing basic sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=18.0,177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And without basic sanity, there is no journey, there's no movement, there's no energy. So, the insanity is that which the life is taken away, but still there's some basic form exist -- like a corpse which does not have breath or heartbeat. So the insanity is that of a rotting corpse. And a corpse might have its own activities -- aging, falling apart, and to create all kinds of world within it. Flies sitting on it, and maggots crawling in and out, and putting out incense of rot, which brings animals and birds. But nevertheless, it's very gruesome activity -- or lifeless activity, rather than that activity which contains life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=177.0,283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from this point of view, that without search for some kind of spirituality, that whole thing is, we are being here just waiting to die. One can look for all kinds of ways to beautify our corpse, or make it valid, or try to inject some kind of life in it. But as the history of world goes, that such effort turn out to be futile. That nobody has managed to produce a living corpse. In spite of the technologies and the philosophies, all kinds of things developed, but still that nobody has managed produce living corpse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=283.0,377.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the problems is that we tend to feel that we can help ourselves by purely reading a lot, and by practicing by ourselves, and not associating ourselves with a particular lineage. And such effort could be said is also attempted to work towards producing living corpse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=377.0,425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about spiritual materialism, that without a teacher to surrender, without having object of devotion, that we cannot free ourselves from spiritual materialism. And of course we could say at the same time that sometimes even having a spiritual friend might regenerate further spiritual materialism, as well. But that seem to be the depends on the qualities of your friend, and communication of the student, whether that link is properly made or not. It is possible that your spiritual friend is a highly evolved person, and you could be highly evolved person, or shall we say, embryonically highly evolved person, but nevertheless, if the chemistry don't meet together, then the meeting does not produce a spark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=425.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it seems that it is important to develop first of all sense of devotion. The devotion which allows ourselves to be disowned by our ego. We could say, the devotion is process of unlearning; if there's no devotion, no surrendering, we can't unlearn. We're still collecting, still struggling to develop living corpse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=493.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then these different stages for devotion that we talked in the course of seminar. That of the hinayana approach, that of the mahayana and that of vajrayana's approach. All of those approaches have its own place. We can't begin immediately on the vajrayana's approach of devotion, immediately. That would be a suicidal. Would be like trying to imitate a grown-up instead of being an infant. But each devotional discipline contains the others, nevertheless, but there is a sequential process. To begin with, start with hinayana's version of devotion, which contains the element of mahayana approach, and the bravery of vajrayana's approach in it. But the exterior act is the predominantly is hinayana's approach, which seem to be the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=565.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the hinayana's approach of devotion is a simple relationship with your spiritual friend, human relationship. The spiritual friend is not regarded as god, saint, angel. But spiritual friend is regarded as a human being, who has gone through the tremendous discipline and tremendous learning situation himself or herself. Which enables us that we could identify with him or her; begun as ordinary human being, but in a human way, way of human behavior, is still affected his lifestyle, his basic being. But we can identify with this person, because this person is workable. You can communicate to this person. This person is not a martian, who happens to be a-- pretend to be a earth man, but this person is a son of man, who grew up, brought up this world, experience all kinds of hassles of life. And since such person also able to relate with the teaching and able to accomplish tremendous things, then we could relate with that person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=657.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Without such attitude to begin with, that we been fantasizing ourselves all kinds of mysteries and imaginations of all kinds. So to begin, with the attitude towards teacher is hinayana's approach of matter of fact. That you are relating with another human being, but accomplished person. And the mahayana's approach, is that this person is highly accomplished. So much so this person is in tune with events of everyday life, and able to relate with the events of everyday life. And highest training of constant awareness is developed, so that this person does not miss a point. And this person has developed exceedingly powerful compassion. Not he's only developed himself, but he's developed also exceeding compassion to live through your shit. That you could come on as absolutely confused and absurd. That such person trying to walk on the spiritual path may be a big joke to your spiritual friend. But nevertheless this person never gave up hope on you, that still accepted and went through the irritations that you created, and the person has developed a tremendous patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=791.0,925.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you do something wrong, which he expected you to correct. And you trying to correct your neurosis, by behaving better, but then you slipped, or you distorted. Instead of correcting, you created further mistakes. And go back to your spiritual friend, would say that, \"That's great. We can work together still. But now try this one. Try this project.\" And you try again. And you start with a tremendous feeling of energy that you can do it. And you start, and several days after you get completely tired of the whole thing. On the process of your discipline you found something else to entertain yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=925.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spiritual friend might ask you to do an intensive meditation practice, without reading books. But you find that right book jumps on your lap, and you can't not help not reading it. This seem to be part of the teachings as well. And you go back to your spiritual friend and say that, \"I followed your instruction, but this book jumped at my lap, and I cannot help reading it. This has some message in it.\" And the spiritual friend would say, \"That's fine. Did you learn anything out of it? If that's the case, take that book and keep reading. Go on, read, find out what that book has to say.\" And you go back and you then try to work on reading. But then you are tired of reading. And it's springtime, the flowers and trees and the nature is so glamorous, that you cannot help just leaving the book beside, and taking a nice walk, enjoy the nature and the beauty and the meditative state of being in nature. And you do that, and you then come back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1002.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such situation goes on, particularly from the point of view of spiritual friend. That following the discipline is very difficult, and you create constantly all kinds of side tracks, by not realizing it's been sidetracking. You didn't mean to disobey your spiritual friend; in fact the problem is that you been too serious, and you found your sidetracks by being very serious. So the tremendous patience that spiritual friend has developed, and lived through your flipping in and out process, of all kinds of frivolity. That the spiritual friend is able to live through, live with you, work with you, as bodhisattva, true bodhisattva, is that bodhisattva is like a crocodile. That once you landed in its mouth would never let you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1116.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And even if your spiritual friend would-- you wanted to him to give up hope on you, so that you could lead a free life, away from this involvement. And tell your spiritual friend, bodhisattva, that, \"Now I want to leave this place. I want to do something else.\" And spiritual friend would say, \"That's great. Do that. Go ahead.\" So instead of going away from him, rebelling from him, you get his approval, so you are get back altogether; instead of going away, you got-- you came in more, more closely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1208.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the things is that it's a reciprocal situation, in terms of devotion of the guru to the student is intense. And therefore the student devotion begin to waken up, even if you are absolutely stupid or absolutely thick. Even in spite of those problems that you can not acknowledging, you can not finding out something, sooner or later, how thick your skin may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1260.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the devotion from this point of view is that the devotion of the teacher's devotion to the student is could be said as compassion. And the devotion of the student towards teacher is could be said is unlearning process. So the compassion and unlearning begin to meet together some point. And then we come to the point of mahayana-- or I mean the vajrayana, type of devotion. In which that you have given up your fascinations, at that point. You have developed a sense of that you are following the path. And at that point, that phenomenal world becomes also expression of the guru. And the phenomenal-- attitude of phenomena world becomes devotion. That you are finally identifying yourself with the teaching, and occasionally you act as spokesman for the teaching. And even to your own subconscious mind you'll speak, act yourself as a spokesman to-- of the teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1292.0,1390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if we are able to get into that level, then any events that occurred in a life situation, has message in them, has teaching in them. That teachings are everywhere. It's something more than purely simple- minded version of magic. This is not quite magic, but it is nevertheless astounding situation, which you could interpret as magic but not magic in the sense of gadget, trickery. There is cause and effect involved with that situations. That all kinds of situation that I've explained, in the one of the talks in the-- during the seminar, that events of our life act as a spokesman, constantly. And you can't get away from your guru. In fact, you don't want to. And the teaching becomes less claustrophobic, and that's why that you are exposed to discovering the magical events of life situation as becoming teaching. Which means that you identified with the teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1390.0,1509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generally, devotion is regarded as coming from the heart rather than from the head. But in the analogy of The Tibetan Book of the Dead for instance, that first early part of your bardo state that you see the peaceful deities coming out of your heart. If you fail to communicate with them, then the wrathful deities comes from your brain, your head. So the vajrayana's approach is, from that point of view, a head approach, head plus heart together. The hinayana and the mahayana's approach of devotion is that of heart, coming from the heart. Head, this point, does not necessarily mean... [baby crying very loudly; laughs;  laughter] ...the tantric approach to life, is intellectual one in some sense. Because you begin to read the implication behind the things, begin to see the messages going to wake you up. So there's some intellectual thing's happening there. But at the sense-- at the same time, that intellectual is not based on speculation alone but it is felt with a hundred percent heart, wholeheartedness. So we could say that the tantric approach to message of all-pervading guru, seeing the all-pervading guru, is that of, to start with, intellect. And that intellect is transmuted into vajra intellect. And that begins to ignite the intuition at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1509.0,1696.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the ideal, fundamental union of, you could say, prajna and shunyata. That union of eyes and heart, together. That everyday life event is self-existing teaching. That even notion of trust does not apply anymore. It is already trust*ed* rather than trust*ing*. You might ask, who's doing all this trusting, trusted? As matter of fact, nobody. But trust itself is trusting itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1696.0,1788.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's why the notion of a mandala of self-existing energy does not have to be maintained by anything at all, but it maintains itself. The analogies of space does not have a fringe or center. That each corner of space *is* fringe as well as fringe -- center as well as fringe. That's the, we might say, all-pervading devotion, that a devotee does not have to be separate person to the object of devotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1788.0,1832.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the whole, before we get to such exciting mystical language, that we have to start very simply. Have to give and open. Display your ego. And make your ego as gift, present, to your spiritual friend. If you are unable to do that, then that the path never begins, because there's nobody to walk on it. The teaching does exist, but the practitioner is the reciprocal necessary situation to acknowledge the teaching. The practitioner makes the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1832.0,1942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said something about if you're not involved with spiritual friend and involved with the teaching that there's no development of base of sanity. Think-- what about, say, someone whose life situation never brought them into any contact with the teachings? Is that necessarily mean that they'd never develop any basic sanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I mean that's why the teachings is regarded as extraordinary precious one. That this is not easy matter that you'll come across with such thing. If everybody could have it, then it becomes meaningless.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Can someone who comes across it but feels no need of it, they're also living in insanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibly arrogant, or something like that. That you have your rationale to work for you, and basically you don't want to let go. So therefore you act peacock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=1942.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, in that case would you still say that that person is on the path, that you were referring to? There's no way that you're not in it, even if you want to get out of it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There's no way that you can actually get off of the path, even if you wanted to, once you've really committed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole point, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But once you act like a peacock, in that case, you know, are they really trying to get out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you haven't committed yourself at the beginning, so you have nothing to let go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2042.0,2080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, referring to that, if everybody had access to the teachings, that would in a sense make them meaningless. And how does that fit with the bodhisattva notion of the possibility of the ultimate liberation of all sentient beings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE] accessible to everybody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, there's possibility, there great possibility, but the situation never presented itself. I mean we could say that there's great possibilities everybody is becoming millionaire, and-- but the situation never had happened. But--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, does the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But once situation is present to you, that you begin to pick up your instinct. You begin to-- in other word there's the instinct is there, but you may not able to meet the cause of to wakening that instinct.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does the teaching then in a sense have to be a kind of a leap thing necessarily?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the sense that, it is not practically accessible to everybody -- that's something which it recognizes, that's a part of its energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see. Well I don't mean to say that the practitioners who-- people who come across with the teaching does not had to be become exclusive, necessarily. It could be a cosmic happening, so to speak. But at the same time, the idea has been that people begin to feel that they don't have to commit themselves into the teaching but they have a teaching already in them, which do not cost them anything to surrender anything at all. That's the problem. If everybody surrenders, you know, whole continent, whole world, it's okay. By no means teaching becomes cheaper at all, becomes more powerful. The problem here is that if people feel that-- if anyone feels that they could become self-made spiritual person, and that seem to be the problem. That we can't have it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I was thinking also along the lines of you know that kind of political attitude, that perhaps the teachings in themselves, if you look at it say sociologically, seem to be available only to people of a certain background or education, and is there anything in the teachings which then seeks to restructure those kinds of situations, to make other people-- to make the teachings accessible to people who don't have those kinds of backgrounds, to make the openness possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that's the whole point, is that what we are doing is here is in fact seem to be related with that as well. And to begin with that lot of people who involve with the teaching in this country anyway, have somewhat broke away from some kind of basic ground, or something. They abandoned their background or traditional culture, and for a while lot of people become hippies or freaks of some kind, and that brought the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut that doesn't necessarily mean to say that everybody have to go through that same process. And that was just an artificial situation that happened, so far. But that could change, to the point that you don't have to go through those process, but the teaching becomes workable, and speaks your own language, your own mind. So, I mean that sort of changes as you go along. And people begin to accept as a part of your structure. And things become less-- the problem is that if you regard it as extraordinary then that feeds the exclusiveness, but if people begin to accept as a part of the geography, so to speak. And one of the interesting development is taking place is that lot of dictionaries begin to use-- have word \"karma\" in them, as if it is a part of the English language. And things like that happens, which wouldn't have happened in fifty years ago.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So, there's really no-- it happens like more organically, in the sense there's no really compelling need to put any kind of emphasis on a sort of conventional, say social or political kind of program, as a implication of the teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It becomes itself, it develops itself that way, organically, yeah. That's a very fringe question. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2080.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The teaching that we're talking about as being so necessary and so precious, does that mean the teaching as it comes through the Buddhist tradition or does that include other traditions, like Judaism or Christianity or Hinduism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose any teaching. It's problem there is that not the question of validness of the truth, from Buddhists or the Hindus or the Christians, but any teachings which willing to -- or any teacher for that matter, willing to communicate to student of beyond spiritual materialism. There *is* that essence in every tradition; it's question of how we use it. And I wouldn't say exactly Buddhism is free from spiritual materialism at all particularly necessarily. That you could present Buddhism in such a way that it could become spiritual materialism, or for that matter Christianity or Judaism, Zoroastrianism, whatever. That it's the style of the presentation, and how it affects human mind. I mean, the basic sanity is always there. That the person have to have some recognition, and then that recognition begin to drop away, and begin to dissolve their self-identification of ego. That seem to be the essence of all the teachings. If you look at it clearly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2421.0,2519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You said at the beginning that devotion was concerned with how to handle duality, and is this sort of because the relationship of the spiritual friend becomes less and less dualistic as you go along, so that you sort of reach a point of non-duality through this relationship?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think not only spiritual friend alone but your life situation as well, where the teaching is happening, the material of the teaching is happening. 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That-- I mean he himself find that he has play the role of a teacher in any case, whether he wants to or not. So that's unavoidable. And his introduction is valid, but one might say that he is also himself slightly coward, to be responsible of anybody's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2552.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is giving your ego as a present to your spiritual friend, is that the same thing as exposing yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same as what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Exposing yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean that *is*, you know exposing means that exposing what you are. Opening yourself, is giving-- is also exposing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So giving your ego is like, you know, like giving your shit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And opening your secret compartments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2655.0,2694.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said that the spiritual friend was like a fire. That you can't-- you shouldn't be too far away but you can't get too close. In what way does the student get burned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think by being too greedy. And then you get hurt, because spiritual friend would act as repelling person that, you know, if you begin to bury yourself into spiritual friend's skin like lice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2694.0,2735.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, could you clarify a little bit for me the role that the ego plays within the three, the hinayana, the mahayana, and the vajrayana? We've had discussions with the-- in the afternoon, that it's very confusing to me. For example in the last discussion we said that we thought that the ego-- when there is the warrior, that the ego is then like a very useful implement. And it just seems to me rather contradictory, how to use the ego with the idea of devotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Contradictory in what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, in-- because sometimes it's like we're cutting through the ego, we're always supposedly cutting through the ego in the hinayana, and yet at then with the discussion it was that we were saying that the ego was helping us. That it was a serviceable thing, not in the sense that it -- how can I say it, that-- not in the-- it's like it becomes a once again a friend for us--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --then in some--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --area it changes its role from being that more or less like an enemy and it becomes a friend.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it's very simple and logical in fact, that if you have a problem -- any problem -- that you deal that problem, trying to solve your problem. And then having solved the problem you get somewhere. Whereas if that problem never begun, you couldn't solve your problem either. So, you-- at any achievement of solving problem is the merit of the problem exist as the problem itself. I mean it's...\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2735.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE] well-- oh, well then there's something else that I don't understand. If for example I understand what you're saying now, but in the-- when you reach the vajrayana state, well it's not-- then you don't reach a particular stage and stay there. I mean for example if you-- if we talk about the warrior and we talk about vajrayana, but then, the ego-- we just keep jumping back and forth from hinayana to mahayana and things like that in our process of devotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah. Yeah. That the whole point, is you see you don't abandon the previous yanas, but you abandon the imperfections of previous yanas, but you stay with the essence of the previous yanas: hinayana and mahayana. So the vajrayana *is* the embodiment of all the three yanas from that point of view, of its best aspect.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And then the warrior--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In other word the teaching of vajrayana and hinayana and mahayana, also contains a dogma. So you stripped away the dogmas but you maintain the teaching of each step. So each time you got more advanced, you strip away of the dogmas, that that higher ideals been created. So you get the essence of the higher ideals, but you don't live on the dogma of higher ideals. So, finally that once you receive-- once you reach stage of vajrayana stage, that you can speak for hinayana as well as mahayana, and you don't change your belief or anything like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2862.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you said part of the vajrayana teachings was that you related to your life situations as basic information for learning and for the teachings. And all of us have been relating to life situations since we were born. What's different now? Like why is that important? What's happening now that makes it different than ever before?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there is a misunderstanding. [Laughs] Since we are born, we didn't work with the life situations, but we struggled with life situations. And that's the whole point, is that now we don't struggle with life situation but work with it. And life situation become workable rather than trying to kill a day. We-- instead of killing a day, we try to use the day, work with the day. That every day is, you know workable day, rather than another hassle to go through. I think that's the essence of a lot of point actually. That's a good one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=2976.0,3072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Exposing or abandoning the dogmas and imperfections of each yana as you go on to the next yana, and why would this process ever end? I mean, why does one speak of only three yanas or nine yanas or whatever rather than just going on forever, infinite number?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, those nine yanas *are* infinite. [Laughter] For that matter you could say *one* is infinite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=3072.0,3113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is surrendering something that you can ever do once and for all or is it a continual process where you have to keep doing it all the time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very good question. I think very important, that point, yeah. The surrendering is something that you do, to begin with to break the ice, but then ice will form again. So you constantly flash back on that. I mean that would be a breaking the barrier first to begin with, that you *can* surrender, but then you have a doubt so you have to break that doubt and then you have another doubt, break that doubt. So, it's same as meditating. That you meditate once is not enough, but you had experience of meditation when you begin, but then you have to repeat that experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=3113.0,3170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is the wrathfulness of the teacher then to drive out the-- into the open the unwillingness of certain of you to surrender in certain ways, certain things that you might not even-- you may even choose to ignore or be ignoring?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I think so. It's that you *want* to surrender, but you can't. So you been pushed overboard. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And so, that would connect with that thing of sucking in too much too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=3170.0,3209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The resentment and anger that might be incurred because of being pushed, does that in any way an impediment to the process of devotion itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The resentment is also about the devotion because that's working with emotions anyway. You are acknowledging something is happening, and somewhat is big deal for you. That's why you resent it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=3209.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89232/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should stop at this point, it's-- the day is getting old. There are lot of things to do. [Laughter] It has been a glorious seminar, if I may say so. [Laughs; laughter] On behalf of the visitors, I'm glad you're able to see and take part in what's been happening, and you are able to continue your search and-- or work with us, whatever is your search anyway. On behalf of the members of community, that I feel that we have taken a new step towards becoming part of the American citizen, to becoming more facing with the American karma of Buddhism. And everybody has been helping a great deal, in domestic situations or social situations, everything has been beautifully done. So, I would like to thank everybody, being so good. [Laughs; laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=3236.0,3314.75588"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89233","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730512VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89233/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=8.31,13.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89233/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade December 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076#t=13.01,18.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165485/file/301076/transcript/89233/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In conclusion\nthe seminar on 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