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Another ongoing Christian idea that one can be saved by outside entity. Drug culture as intersecting with Hindu ideas of cosmic consciousness. Zen practitioners and America's tendency to do things in big way, manifesting as extreme strictness. Embrace of spirituality in America as nonetheless landmark in history of mankind. Points to a choice: encourages joining of knowledge and skillful means in meditation, without the watcher, so transcendental wisdom can dawn. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] Tibetan Buddhism and American karma; [Q2] how the watcher functions in vipashyana meditation, what vipashyana is; [Q5] how wisdom of great scientist like Einstein compares with transcendental wisdom.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 01 2021 to Jun 11 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOverview of engagement with spirituality in America.One is allying oneself with traditional, anti-materialist societies. Another ongoing Christian idea that one can be saved by outside entity. Drug culture as intersecting with Hindu ideas of cosmic consciousness. Zen practitioners and America's tendency to do things in big way, manifesting as extreme strictness. Embrace of spirituality in America as nonetheless landmark in history of mankind. Points to a choice: encourages joining of knowledge and skillful means in meditation, without the watcher, so transcendental wisdom can dawn. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] Tibetan Buddhism and American karma; [Q2] how the watcher functions in vipashyana meditation, what vipashyana is; [Q5] how wisdom of great scientist like Einstein compares with transcendental wisdom.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-apxnft.mpga"]},"duration":5586.33794,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/529/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-apxnft.mpga?1783093631","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5586.33794,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711121VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711121VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 5] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado in November 1971. This will be talk number five, November 21st, Part One.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Having related with idea of aggression and its implications in yesterday's discussion, that it seems natural process. That different ideas of meditation practices that involved American karma [laughs] is next prominent landmark, it seems. In generally, that what we discuss does not have to be taken as perfect and absolute authority, but it is could be taken as possible suggestions that that situation might occurred or that situation had happened. So I'm not particularly making cut and dry remarks of all these in terms of condemning or praising. And the decisions will be left to the audience to come to conclusions. In fact, it would be very interesting that at the end of this seminar, one particular session if you could have a group discussion of their impressions or their ideas based on American karma as they personally experience it, which would be very extremely dynamic and helpful and very communal situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=19.0,190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of talking about meditation that involve with American karma, having discussed already the aggression aspect of it, that there's a tendency to relate with meditation practice in the pure kind of primitive notion of religion. That there is-- everyone feels that there is a lack of a primitive quality of the practice of meditation or whatever is may be. That people feel lack of too much sophistication involved with American karma. That they had to be introduction of primitive quality. So meditation practice based on, from that point of view, escape from the penthouse and take refuge in log cabins or caves. Quite possibly trying to be prehistoric as much as possible. And like even not wear any shirts, or trousers for that matter, dressed up in rags, animal skin, whatever have you, Indian cloth, Mexican ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=190.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is meditation practice. No doubt about that. There is tremendous meditative aspect involved with that. And these people-- those people develop tremendous sense of sensitivity of putting on animal skin and relate with nature, get back to mother Earth. As well as there is a tremendous fascination, of course, that certain, beautiful designs that had developed, like American Indians or Oriental Indians have developed these simple Rajasthan-inclined primitive artwork of prints that we could endorn [sic] ourselves with, and still living in a cave or log cabin. Hunting with a bow and arrow somehow is too extreme, too exhausting, so occasionally we might make a trip to the supermarket. [Laughter] Meditatively at that time. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=322.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that is meditation practice. I don't know exactly what word meditation-- word \"meditation\" come from etymologically exactly, but if suppose if \"meditation\" is the translation of \"samadhi\" of Sanskrit language, that it is translated as a \"trance\" by certain contemporary scholars. If it's a trance, that seem to be correct translation if meditation related with that kind of situations. It's a trance in the sense of purely intoxicated in the fascination of colors and shapes, outlandish patterns of all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=440.0,502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it is possible in American karma that those who search for meditation practice could relate themselves purely going back to nature and trying to become prehistoric, stone age life-hood. Even not using metallic implements but purely trying to work on beautiful sculptural quality of flints and stones as axes or knives, arrowheads, or what have you. It seemed that we haven't gone as far as that. There's possibilities of that, and it is feasible and obviously sensible if we are going to follow that philosophical thought. It is feasible that we go-- could go as far as that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=502.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems a lot of admirations that developed towards the American Indians have stemmed from that particular ideal, romantic, living with nature as it's come from that particular direction, rather than the solid and earthy quality of the Indians, or the solid and earthy quality of any primitive tribes. And there's some misunderstanding on the way, somewhere or other. Like in the book called BLACK ELK SPEAKS, and he talks a great deal about his adventures. And it is quite possible that lot of Western audience of this particular book would feel more of the environment and romantic and colorfulness of his message, rather than the depth of his message as wise person, solid person, unshakeable person called Black Elk, who has seen through his wisdom and completely achieved his wisdom as a saint. And it seems there's something missing at that point of pure primitive search, rather than search for the fundamental message or the primordial message, the primordial wisdom that exist on that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=577.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have another meditative particular kind of practice which involved with American karma, which is associated with ultra-subjugation, so to speak, of the Indians in this country. That established a church, and established a educational system, and even the Indians be told that your god is not necessarily nonexistent, diplomatically, but your god is lesser powerful; our god is greater powerful. And that kind of mentality is being used constantly by the Christian church, particularly, in like in places like in South Africa or in Africa altogether. That missionaries been trained not deny their gods absolutely; it is possible they react against it as nonbelievers. But therefore trying to include their gods, but say that *their* gods are just colorful gods, and *our* gods create the world. And that sort of psychological tactics been developed, which I had myself come across with a lot of people who had experienced that and discussions with such people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=670.0,781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that point of view, that there is again the meditative tradition is developed as a true practice, hundred percent good Christian. That there's nobody but only one savior. And at the same time, that you must go through this process of relating yourself, identifying yourself with Christ, who demonstrate the expression of God's compassion, God's mighty and boundless quality of God. He only performed this miracle, He was the only incarnation, and He, at the same time, son of man. If you trust and surrender yourself to Christ, then transmutation of your sin is forgiven, and therefore process of development into the greater realm of the union with God could take place as ladder, so to speak, or bridge. And meditation is developed that way of believing in you as what you are, and therefore, since you know what you are, therefore relating with another entity which isn't you but which is greater than you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=781.0,906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this affects great deal of the latest development that takes place in this continent of introduction of Hinduism, for instance, in meditative process as well at the same time. That we have the cult of cosmic consciousness. That cosmos is great, gigantic, enormous, as much as power of God. And you are atom in that particular cosmos' evolutionary process. Therefore, we are worthy of being purified, we worthy of being include in that gigantic cosmos process of display of \"Brahma,\" which means \"absolute\" or \"complete.\" Brahma, in this case, could be said as there's nothing incomplete about that particular principle. It is hundred percent complete, full and basic and healthy and wholesome. And this wholesome quality is gigantic and great, beyond any imagination. So our limited consciousness could afford to diffuse into gigantic, enormous, cosmic outer space consciousness. But at the same time, the impetus to get into this cosmic trip is purely expand yourself, tune yourself into the higher consciousness. Because you are lower, because you are impure, because there is basic limitation that involved with you, and you involve with the petty limitations of lifestyles which could be harmful in order to tune yourself into highest possible cosmic consciousness. So there is meditation practice which is involved with cosmologist, so to speak, cosmology-ism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=906.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's the another colorful and exciting process developed in American karma is Zen Buddhism, primarily of course. And it is very interesting that American mentality is all the time trying to build biggest monument or the longest or tallest or gigantic-ist in history. And psychology of America is to be big, to be gigantic and enormous and great and richest. And this mentality is of course fitting in with mahayanists, which also says, \"We are the *great* vehicle.\" [Laughter] Of course, nobody strategize this particular introduction, but it just fit into it. And first introduction for American Buddhists, or American friends of the Buddhists, have received this message of mahayana, the *great* vehicle, without going through hinayana introduction of any kind. Which is another meditative state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1099.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And scientific mind of American mentality is too literal and too dogmatic. The scientists would like to hold their own faith of their own particular belief. So the introduction of Zen Buddhism set chaos to that, Zen riddles and koans that had developed. For instance, no laboratory, no computer could answer the question of sound of one-handed clap. Because in computer's language, it doesn't make any sense. Had developed that way of trying to eliminate the logical mind or extreme scientific mind, which is very beautiful. And introduction of Zen Buddhism takes place into this-- in this continent. And that there is a process of that evolves, at the same time, it is very well that you have these ideas and fears and philosophy that involved. That we Westerners haven't searched for him, had answer for. The subtle quality of atom hasn't been answered, so if there is something beyond matter, which is just about relate with the mind. That is very well, but how we do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1201.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of that question, lot of Zen establishment institutionalized Zen Buddhism is established in this country, which is another meditative school. Instead of meditating onto the-- in the theology of it or the logic of it, then there is hard fact of if you really going to practice it, you must sit seven weeks sesshin, and you must sit and meditate, sit on the black cushion. Upright and righteousness. Put your exertion on sitting on the black cushion. Don't introduce other cushions. We have to be basic. Let us introduce black cushion to sit on it, put on black robe. At the same time, students of Zen Buddhists cannot ignore their intellect, or they cannot ignore their introduction to the Zen practice. Lot of people come from schools of psychology, a lot of people come from schools of study of Oriental art, a lot of people come from schools of study of philosophy of the East or the West. They cannot ignore that intellectual inclination while you're practicing and trying to be literal and simple and sitting on black cushion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1302.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the philosophy of Buddhism goes side by side, but basically it is kind of practice which is started on inspiration of the exertion on the practice itself. It's kind of process of collecting possible way of looking at the universe from the point of view of historical Stone Age, from the point of view of search for Hinduism, and from the point of view of search for transcending logic in the Zen tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1407.0,1472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that there's a tremendous, enormous richness that American karma had brought. It's so much in terms of, particularly, I suppose, I'm talking particularly in terms of how the Oriental traditions had developed into this country, which is inspired by the basic mentality of the Occidental wisdom at the same time. That whole things mingled together in this process. It seems that some stage that fascination of collecting information had become more of collecting-- less of collecting rather, less of collecting than more of adventuring on those principles. You got a lot of informations rich with the translations into English language from those sources, Sanskrit sources, Japanese sources, Chinese sources. As well as the idea of reactionist mentality of anti-materialism or the prehistoric trip as well at same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1472.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In certain process that another kind of chapter in American karma had developed, and that is the trying to become more adventurous, outrageous, beatniks or hippies or what you like to call them and experiencing on psychedelic drugs of all kinds. Whether they are drugs or organic, but experiment made on them. It's adventuring further, rather than searching for the library of the universities by this time. It's sort of spacing out and searching more fearlessly, wholeheartedly; expanding, rather than purely trying to learn something out of it. And that's seems, at that point, there is a self-indulgence quality of the spiritual materialism begin to comes in as well at the same time. Which doesn't mean to say all process of this search is spiritual materialism as such, because we have to allow the space for the individual qualities of it, of course. And colors and hallucinations, symbolisms that happen in the psychedelic trips that everybody experienced are the vanguard, or if not actual practice of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition had developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1588.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The-- they've gone through, in a sense we could say symbolically, we could say that prehistoric trip is trying to simplify is kind of hinayana trip of its kind, reacting everything exist is not too luxurious or trying to reduce ourselves into simple existence. And then there's mahayana development that exist in American karma, which is expanding your consciousness of Hinduism and as well as trying to eliminate the Western scientific predictable knowledge into Zen riddles of mahayana tradition. And then there's the vajrayana development takes place, which is, in this case, we could say pseudo-trip, attempt, rather than actual experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1699.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time, no doubt about these historical occasions are very important, and it does exist in the history of mankind. Not only in America alone, but these development are very significant. That there is the fascination to mandalas and deities, peaceful deities and wrathful deities, flames and rainbows and angels and dakinis, all kinds, had been experienced through these-- possibilities of those experiencing-- of experienced by psychedelic experiences which act as sort of vanguard, as I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1766.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And having that cult that we already created, that Tibetan Buddhism are coincided with Tibet. Tibetans had to leave their country because of Communist Chinese invasion of their country. They were thrust into this particular choice of leaving their country, exposing themselves. That's coincide quite right in that situation. Still, the style of presentation of Tibetan teaching is purely dependent on how the actual the teachers are, how they-- how you present their situation to it. What we have developed finally are not only make scientific experiment in your laboratory, but trying to space out your scientific experiment. Which is also coincide with Americans-- man landing on the moon for the first time, which is also one of the very beautiful expressions of expanding or become more adventurous. To space out, to extend beyond this earth, not purely work in the laboratory and books and trying to relate purely logically. So there's some taking chance, in a sense, from the quality of vajrayana mentality or tantric mentality of taking chance, leaping to the air, searching for the outer space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1814.0,1932.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is very fortunate that we start on skillful means rather than wisdom from that point of view. Skillful means is related with earth, or skillful means related with our basic sanity and basic quality of being right there. Because you cannot be skillful unless you perceive the situation as they are. So the skillful means... conquering skillful means, or relating with skillful means, that Americans decide to make this adventure landing on the moon rather than landing on the sun, [laughter] which could be detrimental. [Laughter] Very symbolic. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=1932.0,2018.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That process of development of a meditative tradition is, therefore, this particular point, is more of dynamic of meditation, rather than passive meditation or faithful meditation had developed, brought out this way. [Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] American karma, [laughter] for electronics  [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2018.0,2061.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that we could see quite obviously, vividly, the organic process that American karma is led to that particular process, no doubt with individual karma as well which led to that process as well. That whole Americans are making this particular journey is historical journey, spiritual journey at the same time. And the meditative journey is more of relating with... The whole thing could be simplified by saying that if you're meditating on something, like landing on the sun of directly relating with the wisdom as being-- or the knowledge as being more powerful than skillful means, or whether we are meditating on the skillful means of relationship situation of the world as it is. So seems that this particular moment of American karma is concerned as it is, is that as question, should American karma be channeled by individual practitioners of the scientists as well as the religious practitioners, meditators for that matter. Should that be channeled to skillful means? You cannot be skillful unless you are completely in it, which is non-watcher, non-observer. That knowledge becomes transcendental wisdom finally. And that seem to be the two choice that we seem to have in American karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd further details we might discuss tomorrow in the next talk. We could have questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2061.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, why do you think that American karma reflects Tibetan Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: American karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Why do you think it reflects, out of all the traditions, that the Tibetan Buddhism aspect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't say that I see there's tremendous opportunity for me to convert Americans into Buddhist nation, at all. Please don't misinterpret me. But it is evolutionary process that Tibetan Buddhism has this quality of craziness, [laughter] and has outrageousness qualities of it. Which is not necessarily Tibetan Buddhism-- I should correct myself by saying Tibetan Buddhism has crazy quality at all necessarily, but it's the tantric aspect in the Tibetan Buddhism has this crazy quality. And it seems that we are approaching towards the studying of tantra, tantric Buddhism, in this country. It's purely evolutionary process, rather than something to do with national, something to do with the culture alone, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2191.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The remarks you closed with, that the development of Buddhism will mean non-watching and non-observing, have-- if I misunderstood your Tibetan.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Development of skillful means.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh, developing skillful means means--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Non- watching, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Does-- is that the exclusion of the internal witness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Would you explain why that's necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, supposing if you're going to sent another rocket to land on the moon, that we have to be at it in its complete efficiency. We can't glorify ourselves why we are working on our technical knowledges. We can't lay heavy power trip or heavy spiritual trip on it. Scientists must be absolutely, completely on it, on how this function will take place according to the moon. So it's being right on the spot, not watching yourself. As soon as you watch yourself, you lose your track of logical process of being skillful means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2269.0,2353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In vipashyana meditation, you're supposed to watch yourself; is that correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yes and no. Vipashyana meditation is largely based on idea of complete involvement. If you're complete involvement by practice of the technique, then somehow it's not question of watching in the sense of ambition of ego watching you, but it's mechanical watcher, or awareness or mindfulness, as it described. Which means mindfulness in this case is fully being there, develop full mind, mindfulness, full mind, full intelligent, complete intelligent. That if you're meditating on the breathing, for instance, don't allow any sidetracks but just keep on the breathing, and identify yourself with the breath, and keep to the very narrow and strict path without introducing other techniques as such. Intellect, the sharpness of the intellect, which is symbolized by water. That the wrath quality of the water is like waves, big waves, which also could destroy anything, uproot everything. But when that is transmuted into intellect -- or in the Tibetan tradition, it is said as of mirror-like wisdom -- that mirror cannot miss any visions that reflects on itself. So every areas, every corners are being surveyed and experienced as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2353.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Do passion and aggression both come from within?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose you could say, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2500.0,2521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How does the wisdom of a great scientist such as Einstein or somebody like that compare with transcendental insight?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they are completely absorbed into the law of matter, and their expressions of understanding is very close to transcendental insight. Because if you're greater scientist, you don't stick to the law, you don't stick to the concept as be told to you before. Where you trying to make new discovery, trying to venture out more, and question those fixed rules and regulations and conclusions are regarded as pure fantasy. So you make new conclusions, new discoveries, which is seeing things as they are. I think we could say it is very extremely close to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2521.0,2583.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If you see things as they are, do you eventually [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not that you get away from it, but there's no function for ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2583.0,2609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, would the absence of perching parallel skillful means?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah, because skillful means is you have to really get there and to relate with situation, rather than being self-conscious of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Exactly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Now, so I never quite understood what skillful means was, but perching--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's absence of perching. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Perching. I always [laughter] stuff like that. Ahh! Skillful means is the absence of perching.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah. SPEAKER7: Whatever happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. As long as you perch on something, that you are suspicious of what you're standing on, therefore you perch.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's the subject and object [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Perching is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Therefore, you're watching yourself, and the bird could perch on the tree with possible assumption that tree might be moved by wind. So that's why bird in perching on the tree. Distrustful of its ground, rather than purely relating with situation as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So it's like uptight or on edge, rather than space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. Opposed to sitting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2609.0,2694.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, since there's no observer of skillful means, how would we know, if we're not observing, whether we're applying skillful means or unskillful means, since neither one has an observer?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as soon as observer comes, it cease to become spontaneous skillful means. Because immediately you begin to fear the-- you begin to experience the threat coming from somewhere. And you be automatically drawn away from the situation, so you become self-conscious. Whereas, if you're being truly skillful, without observer, then there's no conflict of any kind at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But how would we know whether we're applying skillful means or unskillful means?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's related with the pain. Observer brings pain, irritation, self-consciousness, trying to maintain oneself, which is automatic.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --built up this crescendo of if you're being careful you're going to get positive results, how much that you built up this positive conclusions of being observing yourself. But, the same time, there is that much negative aspect of watch yourself for something else. You can't just watch yourself without anything, you have to watch yourself *against* something. And it seems that particular way of putting is very loose, so it is quite possible that people have already automatically developed their paranoia, could interpret that watch yourself is being guard against something, and that seem to be misunderstanding of Buddha's word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2694.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: If you think of a participant and an observer, like a figure and the ground, can you not be aware of both of them at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you are being?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Aware of a participant, being a participant and being an observer, both at exactly the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't be self-conscious of observer, as well as you can't be self-conscious of the-- what did you say the other one?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Participant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Participant, again at same time at all. Because then you are splitting the observer into hierarchal structure at the same time. It seem to be impossible to do that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What direction does it give to you if you go in that direction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It reinforces the subtleties of fundamentals of ego, reinforces the paranoia of the ego, it seems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2808.0,2885.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, what's the relationship between skillful means and awareness? In a sense that, if skillful means is the absence of an observer, when a dog eats his dinner, you know, he's totally just into eating. But that's not particularly skillful means. Or when I react to pain, and there's no, you know, there's no observer. Well, I don't really understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that also had observer, because dog has to be inspired to eat such food by self-conscious quality of what he wanted to eat, terms of passion. So the process of dog eating his dinner is expression of passion. Each lick in the dish is he's gaining something from somebody, while he's wagging his tail. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2885.0,2955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And is there no difference between passion and instinct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, instinct is quite dangerous word in a sense that-- or profound word, we could say. Is that there is the instinct of the intelligence, as well as there's instinct of the gullible quality of it, or the seductive quality of it. So whether instinct without a center, or whether it is instinct with a center. I mean, in the Buddhist tradition, buddha nature is also referred as instinct or potential. But at the same time, the confused mind also follows passion and aggression as by instinct; natural reaction, automatic reaction to defend himself or herself or grasp it. So it seems that if there is lot of subtleties involved there; it's self-conscious instinct or whether it is simple instinct.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And in that sense, dogs and deer have egos?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They all do, yeah. It seems that way, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=2955.0,3046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Do you think the evolution of American karma can change? Like you said it was headed towards perhaps tantra or something like that. Can it change and go in another direction? Or is it inevitable [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's involved with the economic strategy of the country, as well as political, scientific, evolutionary process of this country. That it *seems* that, I'm not making assumption of it, but it's purely suggestion that if American energy expand this way, it seem to be inevitable that there will be-- it's tantric evolution process at this point. But if the whole pattern had to be changed in another direction, and each person have a choice on it, then there could be led into something else. It is possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3046.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You say that it seems as though dogs or animals have egos. And yet it seems that if a dog's ego, if a dog is a dog, then a dog is completely happy. People try to come across maybe as something other than people. I think only people try to be something other than people. Do you think an ego is completely dysfunctional for say psychological well-being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's, as I said already, instinctive ego, which seem to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What is instinctive ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What is instinctive ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Instinctive ego is purely trying to live on the demand of the ego without questioning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What? I'm sorry--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Without questioning. Purely trying to live on the demand of ego, trying to live on it, which is like dogs and jackals and other animals.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: So you will-- so then you will have some type of ego, you will--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --have some kind of [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whereas ego of humans seem to have developed some intelligent, or you could say sharper intelligent of it. Buddha nature. That trying not to be purely instinctive alone, but then their ego could lead also in the spiritual ego as well at same time. Trying to get out is also ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3110.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, what is the cause of impatience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose you could say aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3208.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: During [INAUDIBLE] times of psychic exposure around plants, when it seemed to me like I was literally conversing with them, it seemed to me like plants are extremely highly developed souls that are in almost perpetual meditation. Their livelihoods are without aggression, almost completely. They never act to defend themselves in a way that is lethal. A rose bush will grow thorns to try and discourage anyone from picking it, but they don't set up deadly weapons that-- well I could go on and on about my admiration for the plant kingdom. I wonder [laughter] it's-- that they seem to compare so favorably against humans sometimes. I wondered, allowing that there is a gradation of development in incarnations, the soul becomes purified. Are there plants that are higher than say the animal kingdom, or different members of the animal kingdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] plants are purely associated with those who take care of it, and expressions of that person. For instance, that I heard of stories that if you play more music, beautiful music to plant, they grow faster than if you abandon them. Put it in silence room, they don't grow. And that seem to be highly associated with individual's psychology, how they relate with the plant, how they radiate their communication to plants, rather than plants have individual entity as such. I mean, quite possibly I would say that how this particular plant, chrysanthemum from Japan, would able to hear Western Beethoven's music as appreciation and grows much faster. And quite logically you could see if you could plant-- you could play music to this Japanese plant that you should play Japanese music. [laughter] But somehow the owners doesn't do that. They play music they like to, and so the plants react to it. And it seems that there's relate with purely projection of the owners, some are related to it, definitely. I mean, like if somebody pick up rose bush with-- in the middle of his terrible temper, just pluck it up, then automatically the thorns will stuck in his hand. If somebody pluck-- if somebody cut the rose bush very gently with awareness, that thorn will not stuck his hand. It's purely related with the individual ownership, how you relate with plants, rather than they have individual entity as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3236.0,3428.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I have heard this, probably many people here have heard, that there have been experiments which showed for example a plant going into a shock because at the other end of the room somebody put a shrimp into boiling water. And it will make you think that plants and other things are more aware of the seamless world which contains all of us, than we somehow or other we seem to have fallen [INAUDIBLE] imagine that we are disparate parts and we are actually-- as we really-- we really have the unity. That we don't seem to have to work so hard to continue.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's related with how careless we are. More we careless, our room get untidy. And more we care for our room get tidy, or pleasant, whatever is may be. And it depends on how we treat the situations are purely related with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3428.0,3489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, then would you say that plants have buddha nature? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because plants are your projections; therefore, they have buddha nature. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: But they're not buddha nature on their own?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's questionable, whether your projections have buddha nature or not. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3489.0,3515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, you were talking about these different movements -- [INAUDIBLE] prehistoric, Hindu , [INAUDIBLE], Tibetans, [INAUDIBLE]. But these movements seem to be very-- a minority of [INAUDIBLE]. I mean, it's only a small number of people that really think seriously about the [INAUDIBLE] or that go into Zen Buddhism, relative to the large cults. So what is the significance or relevance of this [INAUDIBLE] How does this [INAUDIBLE] relate to that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that general pattern of majority of American karma creates the essence of American karma on the individuals. That majority American karma situation presents kind of environment. And within those environment the specialized of the heart of the intellect of Americans could develop. So it is interdependent, same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3515.0,3606.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What is there about tantra, Rinpoche, that promotes this crazy quality? What is [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's like making decision that it is safe to send man on the moon. It is could be said in about fifty years ago, or ten years ago for that matter, it is a terrible, crazy thing to do to send man who live and grown on Earth, sending to outer space who's purely foreign to his environment. But that decision had been taken because of the development of-- excitement of the understanding of the wisdom that had developed, and therefore that thrust us into a further possible adventure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3606.0,3655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Is it the craziness that brings about the tantra or the tantra that brings about the craziness? [laughter] I wondered what comes first. I love being crazy, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seem that whole thing have to start from that outrageous quality. Yeah. And then from there you find the heart of the outrageousness of it, the wisdom of the outrageousness of it, which is tantra I suppose you could say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3655.0,3682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: [INAUDIBLE] I mean, there's-- what about you were speaking about the scientists who, when preparing the moon landing, couldn't lay any kind of trips on anything but has taken kind of everything necessary at every moment in order for it to happen. I mean, how does that relate with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Crazy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that's part of the problem of the craziness, because that's the where the possibilities of wisdom which involved with that craziness. It's not just purely craziness of throwing man in the air just like that. [Laughter] But in order to develop the possibilities of man could go out there and come back, as a documentary process of craziness did work. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nHmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Planned craziness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Plants?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Planned craziness? In other words, I mean, the craziness is planned and organized?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Planned. No. I mean, there's first impulse of the craziness, and that impulse is be experienced, digested. Then that provides some kind of solid, earthy quality of the craziness as it is. So craziness become into a proper function.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3682.0,3784.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Ask you a question about the parallel between skillful means and perching. I know you've spoke about perching, Rinpoche. Was interested in what jumps? Because without perching, there's a like a big leap, or there's a jump. What jumps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean, can you jump without perching?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What does the jumping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean leap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Who jumps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Leap?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But yeah, leap, it's a big-- or fly. It's almost-- well, you know, it's like if got two wings now you-- your-- you take off or you take a big jump like out into nowhere. So what I was curious about is who does this jumping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In relationship to perch--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: In other words, there's no subject and object, now, we were talking about skillful means and the absence of perching--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: --in the abs-- I hope I'm not confused. I don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What I'm interested is [laughter]--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: --is who or what takes this jump?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, whole thing is that as long as you're not holding, which is perching, that absence of holding with the notion of possible chaos, possible drama, that might lead you in some situations. As long as you are not involved with that possible paranoia, then leaping or jumping into the infinite becomes more possible, because you don't regard the space where you're jumping in is a threat or challenge anymore. It's just stepping onto another area purely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: It's instantaneous.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Instantaneous, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But what I was curious about was-- it's-- so I haven't been doing any read-- you know, any reading or anything, so I'm not up on you know that part, but I was trying to figure out, what or who does this jumping? Because I felt myself doing it after it was done in retrospect, after I was perching again. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I see what you mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Trying to get the root of it [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When we talk about jump or leap, it's purely expression of as though we are watching that person jumping, but we are not speaking for that person who jumps.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3784.0,3992.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Rinpoche, you spoke yesterday of [INAUDIBLE] with aggression, which involves owning [INAUDIBLE] then you can act as a mirror to the other person. You can act as a mirror for their aggressions. How does this work on a social level, in terms of communities or communes of people living together? The only two social structures that I know of on the planet where aggression has been eliminated mostly are dolphins and the tribes of Indians called the Senoi who relate their dreams to one another every morning as part of their meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They relate with what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: They talk about their dreams every morning when they wake up. They spend two hours telling each other exactly what dreams they had the night before. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: What if they don't dream?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: They talk about that too. Those are the only two groups of beings on the planet that I know of that have eliminated the aggression in their social interaction. How would you apply what you talked about yesterday to let's say a commune, to a bunch of people living together. How do you get rid of aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that seem to be idea of example of what you said about the dream. And that situation is that when people begin to share experience together, living in a community, or commune, that the first impression if they are into some kind of spiritual discovery, that they will discover the illusory quality of life. And there is some common goal that they are working on it. I mean such as like if people, meditative communities, living together, people in community are meditating, and their experience of aggression and passion and everything could be related with each other. I mean, in a sense, that what we are doing in this hall, particularly, is exactly the same as that we are telling our dreams to each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3992.0,4137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Does meditation eventually stop ego, or does-- can ego [INAUDIBLE] through meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that meditation is the act of anti-ego, if you like to put that way. At the same time, accepting ego is not necessarily as a villain, but using ego as a stepping-stone. So the beginner's level, the ego takes part in the meditation; and as your meditation develops into much greater and greater openness, then ego somehow loses its threshold and diffuse itself into the openness, which is meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4137.0,4201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: It seems that some duality might arise, or when I experienced it arise the day after sesshin, duality between space and speed, so that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space and--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Speed. So that someone might walk out of a sesshin spaced out and not be able to deal with what was happening in the street, you know. Which doesn't seem to be the point of meditation at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it sounds like that there is too much emphasis put on the meditation as being something to-- trying to achieve something out of it. Not as way of life. And from that point of view, it is necessary to have more frequent sesshins. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter] The meditation should continue in his dreams? Right, is that what you're said?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, sesshin is especially treated as occasion, and when you have more frequent sesshins, then it is part of a cup of tea.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: What about that duality of space and speed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that dissolves itself. And you-- I mean, at some stage, you find you can't be bothered to keep that direction, keep that duality, keep that segregation. One begin to give up the whole game. Because sesshin occurs so often you can't be bothered to keep up to it. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: [INAUDIBLE] space [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Is it meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just sit and sit, sit, and walk around. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4201.0,4336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: More often sesshins? We had one last Sunday, we had this one-- this Sunday, and we've got one next Sunday. How more often can they be at?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One wonders. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4336.0,4360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Rinpoche, it seems meditation increases the flow of energy, or the awareness of energy. How does that-- how does the increased amount of energy relate to dissolving ego? It seems like the energy filters through the personality and just accentuates the aggression and passion and whatnot, instead of, you know, dissolving it, or I don't know...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, at the same time that that sounds like that particular energy you're talking about is related with purely the highlights of your state of mind where everything's going very well. But there's also the other aspect where people go through ups and downs constantly. That they can't be bothered to relate with their energy at all. They feel so down and depressed and everything. And yet still energy continues at that level. So meditation is some kind of continual thread, continuity. Some thread of continuity continues and that able to relate with both ups and downs as not sort of personal attack of any kind or personal failure or personal gain of any kind. So when person begin to accepts their ups and their downs as one process, then one begin to realize there's no point of relating with ego or \"me\" as such at all. It's just events of energy is happening, bundle of energies have their own patterns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4360.0,4464.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Do you have to be gentle with ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Generous?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah. You know... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Gentle.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentle.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Gentle. You know, I have this habit of exposing the ego. [Laughter; laughs] Did anybody ever expose their ego to themselves? I guess not. [Laughter] Well, anyhow--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think they tried to do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What? Well, I would just simply tell myself, \"Now this is the ego.\" And what I did wrong in the daytime on certain days, and I'd say, you know, \"This is my ego.\" Well, I have the feeling that that wasn't being very gentle with ego, and ego didn't like it. So it did things to me which-- [laughter] certain things made me sick and different things. Could that be possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, being generous, or gentle, as you said--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah. Well, just not too keep on trying to expose the ego or have it get angry or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, point is you don't have to constantly punish yourself by blaming the ego all the time. But...\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, will the ego get revenge on you if you do that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. CYRUS CRANE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's you, rather than ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh, it's me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's it. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] get into a discussion about the difference between \"I\" and \"me,\" I better [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter; laughs] Well, I'm trying to [INAUDIBLE] I guess I [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4464.0,4636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Rinpoche, we were talking about animals some time ago, and well, I've been wondering whether I ought to eat lobster. [Laughter] Yes, you see I don't get to eat-- I like to eat lobster meat, but the thing is that the way you kill it, the way you kill a lobster is quite cruel. The very last thing you do to a lobster is to throw it live into boiling water. It takes it some minutes to die, but then-- or in some cooking methods you do even worse things to the lobster. So well, I've been wondering whether I really ought to eat lobster.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You wonder what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: I wonder whether I really ought to eat lobster?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Whether she ought to eat lobster. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose that-- [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] our trying to-- trying to make fixed and definite rules in that way seem it doesn't work, particularly. And some stage that we develop next twenty years that if anybody join the center, must not eat lobster; or if you're Jewish you must not eat pork, for that matter. And it seemed to we have to relate with individuals and their attitude towards their experience towards it. It seem to be extremely personal thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4636.0,4777.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Rinpoche, someone told me that dropping acid puts holes in your ethereal body.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: It puts holes in your ethereal body, your astral body or something --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Makes holes? [laughter] Well, that's again it seem to be depends on if you have fixed concept or fixed memories of the supposing damage that you've done to your attitude and your understanding. That one experience of acid is being fatal to you. And person constantly feel paranoid that because of that one particular experience the rest of their life is being-- sort of destroyed or damaged by it. And from that point of view, I suppose, you could say it's-- it somehow seems to be depends on how much concept you put on it. Because usually psychedelic drugs have extreme-- also brings extreme paranoia, but also it brings psychosomatic sickness as well at the same time, because whole experience is so highly tuned into mind and seem nothing to do with the body that point at all. And in terms of psychosomatic problems, that you could damage yourself. But in terms of scientific experience, that... I don't think somehow that kind of expansion of mind or exaggeration of your ignorance or your confusion, your hallucination, would particularly hurt your body. It's a relative situation, how much your fantasy is powerful and strong.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: It's all your paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4777.0,4951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Is meditation a coping device?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditation what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Is a coping behavior? In other words, if you're not living in a society say, that has frustrations, suppressions, and that is rooted in aggression-- well the kid's example of dolphins, do dolphin-- will dolphins need to meditate? Or if I'm living back to say my natural instinctual ego, and if I'm living in a natural environment, do I need to meditate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that whole spiritual consciousness, so to speak, had developed, and that spiritual consciousness inspired the American society. Somehow felt there's need to something-- discover something beyond than their narrow minded point of view. So I suppose, from that point of view, the frustration and misery brought the possibilities of looking beyond the frustration and the misery, we could say, from that point of view, it is instinctive thing. And at the same time, that if person want to really see themselves as clearly as possible, then meditation is the only way to clarify or simplify their complications. So from that point of view, you could be said as instinctive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4951.0,5067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: What are some other aspects of tantra-cism besides craziness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is other aspects?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Yes. What does it include?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's includes the whole universe. That what precisely what mandala is. And kind of expressions of existence of world, existing world, and seeing in its own energetic and colorful and playful and active. It seem that that includes-- tantric experience includes great deal of area, whatever we experience in the life situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=5067.0,5127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Rinpoche, is aggression always due to a desire for achievement or ambition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seem to be that's the constituents of aggression. And that's the what's aggression is for.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: For or from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=5127.0,5159.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Is planning ahead for the future a form of ambition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Planning ahead for the future a form of ambition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how you relate with your plan. If you relate with the plan as trying to change your future, that is erroneous belief, because future is not there yet. So if you plan future in terms of present situation, then necessarily doesn't have the quality of ambition at all. It's facing the reality of nowness, which also contains the potential of the future at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=5159.0,5207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95063/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: What if you look at that future in terms of its samsaric quality? It's constantly, you know, having ideas about the future, but they're just plans. And also this ties in with something about the drug experience. It seems like drug experience, or the Zen experience or the Hindu experience, none of these introduced anything new; it just opened up the samsaric quality of the sort of dream-like quality. But at the same time, there's some-- there seem to be something very positive there, a kind of clarity. It's like it's a very general question, very kind of an open ended question, but... there seems... like nothing new has been added by any of these karmic patterns. That the things that were opened up were always there. And that the problem is why can't, you know-- I'm tired of all this karma going on. What's the way out? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well obviously, that we out with this constant search, constant speed, that you have to provide some kind of gap or space. Guess what, anybody has any...? [laughter] AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suggestions-- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: An accident.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Sesshin.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, meditation, obviously. 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And then from there\nyou find the heart\nof the outrageousness of it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3674.24,3678.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the wisdom of\nthe outrageousness of it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=3678.72,3680.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is tantra\nI suppose you could 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Generous?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4466.26,4467.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CYRUS CRANE: Yeah. You know...\n[laughter]\nAUDIENCE: Gentle.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4467.53,4470.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CYRUS CRANE: Gentle. You\nknow, I have this habit of\nexposing the ego.\n[Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4470.4,4498.099"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did anybody ever expose\ntheir ego to themselves?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4499.48,4504.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess 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What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4510.77,4511.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I would just\nsimply tell myself,\n\"Now this is the ego.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529#t=4511.98,4517.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174112/file/313529/transcript/95064/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what I did wrong\nin the daytime on certain 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