{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/4j09w0bn83/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-07-21: The Message of Milarepa: Talk 5: Spiritual Romanticism"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-07-21"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Karme Choling, Barnet, Vermont, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/565/show\"\u003eMessage of Milarepa\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 5: Spiritual Romanticism"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Tibetan Buddhist Lineage"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["About hopelessness and loneliness on Milarepa's path. After being accepted by his teacher, Marpa, Milarepa returns home. Finding only abandoned rubble, he goes into retreat in the caves where he confronts his aloneness and naked ego. He also has a sense of romanticism about his loneliness. Milarepa's story evokes the power of the loneliness and sadness that one finds in one’s meditation practice and in the practice of solitary retreat."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 12. Spiritual Romanticism (only source for that chapter)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10: Selected Writings: Find Your Heart in Loneliness\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nSRCBOOK: SELECTED TALKS ON LINEAGE AND DEVOTION (Kalapa Media, out-of-print) - Chapter 4: Milarepa and Aloneness"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 25 2023 to Mar 09 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Julia McKaig\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Blaire Martin, Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About hopelessness and loneliness on Milarepa's path. After being accepted by his teacher, Marpa, Milarepa returns home. Finding only abandoned rubble, he goes into retreat in the caves where he confronts his aloneness and naked ego. He also has a sense of romanticism about his loneliness. Milarepa's story evokes the power of the loneliness and sadness that one finds in one’s meditation practice and in the practice of solitary retreat."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/367/small/thumbnail_267367_1741835350.jpg?1741835392","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741835025_19730721VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3523.648,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/367/small/thumbnail_267367_1741835350.jpg?1741835392","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/367/original/1741835025_19730721VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1741835052","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3523.648,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730721VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730721VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Message Of Milarepa - Talk 5] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=0.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a point when the ultimate hopeless, that one is unable to hang on to ego. At that point--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: We can't hear you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=186.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Clears throat; laughter] --the meaning of hopeless become very clear. Can you hear me? [laughter] When there is-- one applied all kinds of tactics and methods to win over guru, spiritual friend, teacher, and unable to win over with the credential of one's ego and one's existence, and almost to the point that you been unworthy to receive teaching, and at that point something happens and some breakthrough takes place: that we can't hold on to it, to our credential of ego. And at the beginning, such a shocking discovery is quite dramatic. As if you lost everything you have in the world that if you can't hang on to your ego. And then, quite unexpectedly, the guru become very friendly and inviting and kind unexpectedly. And that even is also suspicious, because of the process that you have gone through; but nevertheless, it turn out to be true at this point, at last time. And that is the experience that Milarepa felt. That when he was about to give up everything, any kind of hope, and he was welcomed by Marpa. Food, shelter, and teaching are all provided.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=249.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he begin to feel very comfortable, that would like to remain with the same situation. And he received all the instructions of how to meditate, how to proceed along the path, and how to handle experience of daily life, how to work with them. And every day is delightful, and collecting informations constantly. And at the beginning, sense of awe. At some stage that you become very comfortable and begin to relate Marpa as a real, genuine father who generates warmth, hospitality, and wisdom. And all kinds of informations begin to impart on Milarepa. And at that point, that Milarepa was asked to leave, go back to his home and start practicing. Which was quite surprising, but by no means it's upsetting because there is a basic trust that had developed already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=436.0,545.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could apply that to ourself. That the informations have received to us, and all kinds of valuable guidelines to our journey have been told to us. We want to have more information. At that point, you begin to appreciate the presence of such guru. But at the same time, if there wasn't enough gap, if there wasn't enough absence of the physical guru, then whole thing could become quite dangerous and the relationship of milking cow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=545.0,610.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Milarepa's return to home is quite a revelation. As we would experience returning to our parents having already involved with some kind of discipline, and apprehension and discomfort and either feeling sorry for your relatives, your home ground, or else feeling ambitiously you want to convert them into your doctrine. And Milarepa's case, there was no one to convert to. That he have to simply adapt himself to his home ground. And the place was completely desolate. And house had fallen down, and the barley fields overrun with weeds. And skeleton of his mother is in the house, and the family library is being overgrown with weeds and birds are making nest out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=610.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might find, visiting back home, that our parents grown older and same familiar house is slightly run-down. And same kind of social scene is happening with our parents, familiar ones, are spending times with relatives and coming back home. Whole thing is extremely depressive and boring and, at the same time, slightly haunting. And on the whole, somewhat discomforting. And parents would tell you the same story and they would like to express the same desires: that they want you to be a successful person in this and that, or have new clothes, or enough money, taking care of yourself. And somewhat interested in what you are doing, but their primary concern is how you relate with home and how you relate with your family heritage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=691.0,774.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Milarepa's case it seemed to be same thing. That instead of a person talking to him, that he has the whole environment, the memory of the past. And at that point it seem to be tremendous challenge, that there was-- nothing that Milarepa can do to make himself at home except find a suitable cave and meditate. And then there comes the revenge of his aunt. Having discovered that Milarepa is in the province, tremendous hate and revenge, at the same time, a guilt feeling. Which is a sort of equivalent of you been striked by the local deities when you come back to your home. Which is somewhat more cosmic, rather than the aunt attacking him, Milarepa's case. But there is a general sense of chaos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=774.0,864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would say that this-- Milarepa's journey at the beginning -- returning to home and how can he relate with his life -- that was the first real and genuine message of aloneness, loneliness. That he has experienced somewhat solemnity of the loneliness, this point, rather than excitement of loneliness, aloneness. The solemnity of loneliness is depressing, because you can't even find a stepping stone to get beyond it. And you have to get into your solemnity and aloneness, loneliness. Which seem to be starting point of new evolution in a spiritual journey. S","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=864.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Somewhat very terrifying. That you been away from home, and your people died and family monument have become dilapidated message. And you been sent back by your spiritual father, and he's no longer with you. And that there is chaos from inside and chaos from outside, which act as scissors that which cuts you into pieces. There's nothing to hang on to. You could have run back to your spiritual father and ask for some security and protection, but then you might end up by doing the same thing all over again, of stripping out again and again, and you can't even afford to do that. Now you have received valuable instructions and you have some strength in you; but at the same time, one is uncertain that strength has-- whether purely of past dream, or whether it was a real message. So one is caught up in that total desolate situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=945.0,1044.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But something hangs on to, something creates a homely [ed: homey] situation there, is one's own ego and memory, memory as in terms of ego. That you still have a sense of you experiencing those, personally, even if it's myth or memory. But still there's something that you can hang on to is your ego. In this case, we could say the ego is not regarded as destructive or obstacle, but that ego has been hurt. Sense of security becomes overwhelming. So there is some reference point of a working base. That you can start on something, so one start with one's basic subconscious mind: \"me\" and \"my existence\", and also \"my loneliness.\" And there's some sense of choicelessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1044.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the first meeting with oneself, where the aloneness is met with one's real ego without any clothings around, naked ego: very assertive and very distinct, very clear, definite ego. And realizing one's ego from that point of view, then one slowly try to find some inspirational resources within oneself, which seemingly, at this point, come from ego. But one has to have some starting point of realizing the desolateness, aloneness. That you may be going through all kinds of trips and all kinds of experiences; but nevertheless, those experience are workable. Something to relate with for the very fact we could say the aloneness or loneliness is ego's perspective. That ego has no one to comfort itself, no one who would act as a moral support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1156.0,1256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the differences between that state and early stage that we discussed yesterday and day before is that there's a sense of less aggression. No blame on anybody, no hatred, particularly. It's just this kind of aloneness is simply feeling of being in nowhere, even not sense of lost. Obviously, sense of tremendous sadness. That there's nothing around you that you can hang on to. But it's your own ego is acting as the voice of sadness, loneliness. And one cannot blame on anybody or even get angry. So there's no source of reference, no source of communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1256.0,1333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that starting point is very useful, very valuable. That is the inspiration to go to retreat, in Milarepa's case, and of course, in our case as well. Taking part in the retreat is to express aloneness, loneliness, the desolate quality. Maybe all kinds of questions runs through one's mind -- and how and why -- but at the same time, it's blameless. You might experience fear in the retreat, but that fear turn out to be purely expression of loneliness. That we try to entertain ourselves, so we manufacture fear. We might go back to our notes, mental notes of the past or the scrapbooks of the past. But even that becomes boring, and we are back to square one constantly. That cooking and sleeping, walking might become somewhat source of entertainment. There is little to do, but something to do is thankful. But even that comes back to square one. One tend to get somewhat disillusioned with even that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1333.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such experience of being in the retreat, in this case, is not exactly sense of wretchedness, but sense of very faint subtleties of that you are falling in love... somewhere, to something. As one begin to appreciate there's subtle romanticism is happening completely out of there's nothing to entertain oneself, everything comes back to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1475.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the songs of Milarepa at the early stage of his being in retreat is love songs. To praise the vicinity, mountains, and his cave, and his desolateness, his solitude, and the memory of his guru is love songs. That you begin to find that the sadness and the desolateness has some sense of romantic. Something to hang on to. Somewhat there's something to latch on to, but if you go too far then it disappears. So it's very subtle love affair, but obviously it's definitely romantic one. At that point, the value of a guru becomes [seeing that] you're also a precious one. And you not only fall in love to the environment and your aloneness, as such, but you also feel that your guru has a lot of things to do with it. And one begin to appreciate his fatherhood, his father-ship, as a matchmaker -- that he married you and the desolate place. It's a genius matchmaker. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1521.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say that in a sense that that kind of sadness also provokes romanticism: spiritual romanticism in some sense. Although it's a materialistic style, but fundamentally it's a kind of spiritual or even, if we could brave enough to say such thing, as mystical. There's a tone of a mystical experience. So that kind of sadness brings a tremendous artistic talent in oneself. Like Milarepa did, composes songs, begin to see the colors and sights happening around him become very real, extremely real. That the way sun shines and the way the moon sets and the way the clouds move and the wind break in his ear and sounds of owls hooting at night and mosquitos landing on you. [Laughter] That everything you see becomes completely, totally a picture of a gigantic world of romanticism and colorful and fantastic. At the beginning, one is irritated by the insects around you. At some point, one begin to find that wish you could invite them for party or dinner. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1641.0,1809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we could say that whole thing is unreal and expression of you're being spaced out or even tripping out. But on the other hand, it has some valid reason. And one can't just regard it as something unpleasant or something that you're sidetracking on the path. But it is something very valuable, because we haven't seen our ego being alone for a long time -- never. So for the first time, we begin to see that our ego is naked. Not exactly without ego, but there is ego, but ego is naked one, and [you] begin to explore the world around it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1809.0,1868.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So first introduction to going into retreat, we could say, is introduction to ego's nakedness and subtle appreciation of aloneness, loneliness being in a retreat. And free from any kind of securities, even from your guru, and you have to pull up your own resources constantly, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1868.0,1910.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You're talking about the point in which Milarepa goes into retreat, and the similarity to the point when we go into retreat. But it seems that there's a little bit of difference in that-- I didn't-- it seems like Milarepa really didn't have much choice at that point. Everything was really completely desolate. His home was completely destroyed, Marpa had told him that he would never see him again -- I think he says in the biography. At that time when he left Marpa, Marpa said, \"You'll never see me again.\" And he really didn't have anywhere else to go, except to go on into his retreat. But we seem to think we have someplace else to go. I mean, we have families, we have homes, we have nice, comfortable places to be. It seems to be some difference there, maybe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the some ways yeah, it's different. I mean chronologically, you know, we don't have a person with the same case history, same as Milarepa. That would be too corny. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut as far as our individual case is concerned, that always there's a sense of choicelessness. I mean, obviously that you can go back to home or job or whatever, but simply those situations becomes very unmanageable at some point. Or else, it's wrong time to do those things, and you decide to go to retreat yourself, you decide to get into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd this case, a retreat is not only just going to retreat in physical situation in a cabin, but a retreat in the case of that you are left with nobody. That your guru has told you to just work on yourself, and there's no further-- it's not necessary to further extend information or whatever. You have to find out your way. And also, as far as our situation is concerned, that we would like to find out, hoping for new experience. And we decide to go to retreat. And you consult your guru, and both him and you agree that this is project you should get into. And as process of retreat begins, the experience becomes almost identical with Milarepa's. I mean, obviously you can step out of it, and you can run into the city and eat ice cream [laughter] and go to movies or you can do all kinds of things. But nevertheless, that even if you did those, those become part of the whole experience. You can't actually escape; you're never out of retreat once you decide to do it. That there is a sense of desolateness. And you could be in Grand Central Station, but nevertheless, those are just your mind world, than the world that you actually communicate. So in fact, that you are not going to retreat, but retreat is coming to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat loneliness is always there. I wouldn't say that loneliness is only for Milarepa's experience alone, but we all have that sense of loneliness in connection with particularly spiritual journey, and relating with the guru and relating with the family and our case history in the past. The sense of loneliness is always there. Even if one feels that you are entertaining yourself and you are having lots of company and lots of friends to keep you occupied; but still, behind that there is sense of loneliness becomes prominent. And always there's a back to square one is inevitable. So we are talking about the literal retreat as well as the metaphysical aspect. The retreat principle happens when we get to certain point, whether we have a guru with us or not with us physically, but that sense of aloneness and sense of something happening is always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=1910.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How did Milarepa get food and stuff while he was on this retreat to support himself? Seems like a mundane question but...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he had enough supplies picked up. And occasionally his aunt brought him some food, because she feel very guilty abandoning him. And his sister went to the villages and beg for food and then brought back. And that's-- I mean, we cannot cover the whole detailed stories. You should read the story of Milarepa's life, biography of Milarepa. Have you read it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It's a very interesting one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well that he got it, all kinds of magic, didn't he?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Food?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Didn't deities offer him the food?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. That was later on. [Laughter] At this point there was nobody helping him, except some--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Right, right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --some hunters came and offered him venison, which apparently helped him a great deal in his practice. [Laughter] And his sister helped a lot. There's no magic in those days, in Milarepa's time. It was straightforward truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2235.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSARAH COLEMAN: This is sort of tangential, but when you're in that retreat kind of situation with the loneliness has become an absolute given, something that you absolutely can't fool yourself about at all, and you get romantic. You start romanticizing about the external world. Like, it seems to me that when your ego is naked, you can become a little romantic about that, too. It's like when irritation comes up, or just all your feelings, all your emotions, as they come up, you can be romantic about that, too. It can be sort of pleasurable, it just seems sort of wealthy while things are coming up. And I was wondering about that. There seem to be two contradictory things happening. Like, you talk about maitri, which is being kind and that kind of thing, accepting it, accepting irritation. But there's also the idea of getting into the irritation and going through it. You know, going-- pushing it all the way to the end to see where it goes. I was wondering, when that comes up, and you start sort of being, sort of amused at yourself for all the things that are coming up in your mind, is it a mistake? Like, seems like somehow the humor can short-circuit the getting into the irritation or getting into the emotion instead. Like, a sort of humorous thing can prevail. Is that a mistake? Or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems if you're in that state of situation. It seem to be nothing can go wrong there; because whenever there's any kind of suggestion of sidetracking, that becomes so gross and you are devoid from that romantic journey and things become too solid, that you reject constantly. So you been thrown back to that smooth, seemingly slightly painful, but pleasurable at the same time. So any foreign element trying to interfere with your journey, you reject automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nSARAH COLEMAN: Is that a proper part of the progression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be a natural thing. And, you know, that's an, in fact, a valuable lesson. That almost to the point we could say that you're fall in love to the path at that point, which is inevitable. [INAUDIBLE] .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2340.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What about Milarepa's sister and his fiance? When he went home again, he found his mother was dead and his house was in ruins, but he found his sister there and his fiance who had been waiting for him. Why was there--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know about fiance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fiance?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In the biography it talks about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not in the Tibetan edition. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Really? The one I read had a fiance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The girl he was betrothed to as an infant, she was no longer his fiance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't remember.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [Laughing] Oh well, details.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Sister wasn't waiting there. She was-- this place is completely unliveable. That people in fact run away from this place and they avoid getting into this property as being that haunted place because black magic was practiced there and the whole family chaos thing happened. So everybody kept away from it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What I wondered was why didn't he feel some sort of inclination to remain involved in helping them, remain in an ordinary--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he can't communicate with anybody there. And if he tried to do it, he's running into more chaos. And there's no one he could communicate. Everybody knows his story and everybody is frightened of him. Nobody will trust him anymore. And he become mythical person there. And when he came back that it's like the devil himself came back home.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Zezay. There was a lady named Zezay. Z-e-z-a-y.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: His fiance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I thought that his father had [INAUDIBLE] her to, as a [UNCLEAR: bought her?] or whatever, as a baby--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't remember.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --to marry Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't remember. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Wasn't that her name?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yes. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It must have been an invention of the translator.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, study up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like Hollywood movie. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It must have been an invention of the translator.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I don't remember.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2465.0,2638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Rinpoche, how could we face these facts without kidding ourselves? Without putting in any... Even in a retreat, or in any of these things, how can we face the facts in-- with these surroundings when we still don't get it hard enough?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you said it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: I don't see the answer, but...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we don't kid ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: But we're always trying to get up some kind of an angle.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as you know that, that's the answer. You don't ask a doctor -- having told your illness, \"you're sick\" -- asking him whether he think I was sick. Having prescribed a medicine to you, you don't ask him again, \"Reassure that I'm actually sick.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2638.0,2725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you think that to-- when you feel this loneliness, that there's always been a hopelessness that's preceded it? Or does everyone feel the loneliness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think both are saying the same thing in many ways. Loneliness is also hopelessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2725.0,2764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, sometimes when one feels one's loneliness though, there's an incredible feeling of how much effort this journey takes. And yet on the other hand, effort seems to be very much like ego, it could be very ambitious. And that gets to be very confusing in a sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between effort and...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Between the fact that the ground of effort is ambition in a sense. Which is very-- which is ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as I said, at this point you can't really fish out and make whole thing safe. And one have to accept the whole ground as being a workable situation. Whereas if you regard the whole thing as you have to start pure and perfect, it seems that we can't do it. So doesn't matter whatever comes up, it's something-- everything had to be used as a stepping stone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2764.0,2852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You talked about the inspiration for going into retreat as opposed the reason for going into retreat. It sounds like a matter of poetry, as much as anything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You said the inspiration for going into retreat is a sense of aloneness. So you increase the aloneness, express it? Could you say more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems the inspiration is also the reason.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Is also the reason?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And if you have logical reasons, conclusions, it becomes too complicated, that you're trying to work with hard facts.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Could there be a sense of fooling yourself about your inspiration? You talked about your inspiration as an ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: --as in the realm of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, of course. Yeah. And that's not regarded as un-kosher. [Laughter] Everything is a stepping stone -- at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: So from one point of view, your inspiration for going into retreat could be unreasonable. There's a sense of a neurosis, itself a problem which arose which brought about the loneliness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: To make sure you go through with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's uncertain. We're not talking about how you get out of it. But we're talking about how you can get into it, this point. So at that point, anything that you can get into retreat, aloneness is advisable.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Would it be the same thing if you had-- well not loneliness but some other situation, gregariousness, the possibility of getting into it has the same kind of inspiration?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that in itself would turn into loneliness in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well then -- what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Gluttony.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You mean that the getting into it itself is the aspect of loneliness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=2852.0,3104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How did Milarepa deal with his relatives? Did he-- before he went into retreat, did he try to resolve the problems? Or after the retreat was he able to? You spoke of how his aunt was angry at him when he returned, and then later was bringing him food. How did he resolve the conflicts with his relatives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He didn't resolve. And he tried to work with it, but it was beyond his-- how to communicate to them. So he left situation as it was. And I think towards part of his middle and end of his life, that he made good friends with his aunt and his sister become his student. If he tried to resolve and make whole thing cleancut at that point, it would have created further problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But she did... Why did she, you know, start bringing him food?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well his aunt felt slightly guilty of beating him and chasing him out when he tried to talk to her before went on retreat. And she said that \"Any debts that I owe you should be resolved by these gifts.\" The gifts were concerned with something like a chunk of butter and a leg of lamb and some barley flour, \"tsampa.\" And that was the last debt. And in fact that consist of much more than that, naturally. And in fact, seventy-five percent of their property, which is a lot. And she said, \"That was the payment for the debt. And now we should regard this as the end legally.\" And she brought them -- she said she was going to bring them, I think, something to that effect -- and she brought them in Milarepa's cave. And he was meditating and she thought Milarepa was playing games with her, and she left the things outside of the cave and animals took away. And he didn't get anything in the end, and that was okay with him. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=3104.0,3291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, when one experiences this loneliness and sadness after having gone home and experienced the heavy trip that your family is going through and everything. And so you go into retreat, hoping to pull out of your own resources and get to understand your ego better, and then only to realize that your resources is only a manifestation of your loneliness. Where does this lead to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should discuss about that tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=3291.0,3349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It sounds like, in spite of all these tremendous shocks, that he had or one has, in realizing the hopelessness, the thing that really enabled him to go on was his ego. And that it sort of enabled him to continue on the path, which seems so contradictory.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's usually happens is that you cannot inspire to experience nirvana without samsara right at the beginning. And confusion is based on how much you're confused; the reference point of confusion is based on wisdom. So right at the beginning, whole thing is contradictory. It's like that how much light there is, it depends how much darkness there is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=3349.0,3423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77314/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should stop our discussion here today, and get further hopefully next-- tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=3423.0,3523.648"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730721VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a point\nwhen the ultimate 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you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=217.8,222.143"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\n[Clears throat; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=247.72,254.482"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"--the meaning of hopeless\nbecome very clear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=264.05,272.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you hear me?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=272.03,279.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When there is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=279.21,282.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one applied all kinds of tactics\nand methods to win","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=284.81,292.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over guru,\nspiritual friend, teacher,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=292.63,300.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and unable to win over\nwith the credential of one's ego","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=300.91,306.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and one's existence,\nand almost to the point","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=306.07,311.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you been unworthy\nto receive teaching,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367#t=311.94,318.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144643/file/267367/transcript/77315/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and at that point\nsomething 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