{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/5717m04v9g/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1979-07-13: Visual Dharma II: Talk 1: Dharma and Art"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1979-07-13"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/235/show\"\u003e1979 Naropa Institute: Visual Dharma II\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 1: Dharma and Art"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBroad view of work of art as basic understanding of dharma, how practitioner creates art in a way that does not express neurosis. \"Dharma\" in sense of Òpeace and coolÓ, reducing heat of neurosis of passion, aggression, and ignorance. Neurosis as creating obstacle to direct perception of phenomenal world, therefore obstacle to creating art. Unconditional beauty can arise out of basic ground of Òpeace and coolÓ because sense perceptions not distorted by neurosis and one can perceive sensory world properly. Recommendation of sitting meditation for one hour to synchronize mind and body before starting to produce art. Destructiveness of regarding work of art as merchandise. ÒWhen a work of art is regarded as expression and journey, then everything seem[s] to be working.Ó\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","BOOK: Art of Calligraphy","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook III"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Joining Heaven and Earth: Part 1: Dharma and Art\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOLUME 7 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE ART OF CALLIGRAPHY: Heaven, Earth and Man: Part 1: Dharma and Art (out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780877735915\"\u003eAbebooks\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eVISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK III (out-of-print)\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNov 26 2021 to Feb 28 2022 Transcribing: Sophie Perks Checking: Al SanValentin Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBroad view of work of art as basic understanding of dharma, how practitioner creates art in a way that does not express neurosis. \"Dharma\" in sense of \u0026Ograve;peace and cool\u0026Oacute;, reducing heat of neurosis of passion, aggression, and ignorance. Neurosis as creating obstacle to direct perception of phenomenal world, therefore obstacle to creating art. Unconditional beauty can arise out of basic ground of \u0026Ograve;peace and cool\u0026Oacute; because sense perceptions not distorted by neurosis and one can perceive sensory world properly. Recommendation of sitting meditation for one hour to synchronize mind and body before starting to produce art. Destructiveness of regarding work of art as merchandise. \u0026Ograve;When a work of art is regarded as expression and journey, then everything seem[s] to be working.\u0026Oacute;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/708/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471375","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19790713VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2737.09175,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/708/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471375","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/168/708/original/19790713VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1665949439","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2737.09175,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790713VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19790713VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Visual Dharma II - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Visual Dharma, held at Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number one, July 13th, 1979. This is an ARP digital remaster made November 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, presenting the first talk of the Dharma Arts Festival, on July 13th, 1979, at Naropa Institute Summer Auditorium, in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=0.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --practice. The teaching assistants who will lead the workshops and discussion groups have been chosen and instructed by Rinpoche, and this should be interesting for all of you. As far as the sitting meditation practice, there are times scheduled here, and you can also sit in the shrine room at Dorje Dzong at 14th and Spruce Street at any time, as well as you-- that you can join in their daily schedule, which you can find out over there. Anyone who has not received meditation instruction is warmly encouraged to sign up after the talk tonight at the table outside, and we will team you up with an instructor.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnyone who has not signed up for workshops or discussion groups -- the sign up table is in the corner back there, and you should do that tonight also. The groups are numbered and you should-- if you don’t already know what number of group you’re in, you should go back and check. And groups one through twelve will meet-- [GAP IN AUDIO] the source books-- [GAP IN AUDIO] As far as the-- anyone can go to that. For the films, otherwise you can get a ticket at the door-- [GAP IN AUDIO] is by the Mudra Theater Group, which is a play written by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. [UNCLEAR: Fringe?] people-- [GAP IN AUDIO] to see that. So people who have zafus and zabutons-- [GAP IN AUDIO] for the next few nights, and we’ll try and round up some more chairs also. [GAP IN AUDIO] Tomorrow’s discuss-- workshops-- [GAP IN AUDIO] --you know that’s part of your-- pays for. [GAP IN AUDIO] There’s several people here tonight just here for the talk. [GAP IN AUDIO] --the National Audubon Society. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=38.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome ladies and gentlemen. We are to discuss the dharma art, I suppose, this point. The basic point is to have some kind of familiarity as to why we’re talking about dharma, and why it is art particularly, which is interesting point. Traditionally speaking that people often start with art and then they discover dharma out of that. I suppose we could say quite safely that’s why a lot of you are here -- that you have found art therefore you will find-- you want to find dharma here. But our approach is this case different, that to begin we try to find dharma, and trying to find if there is any art at all in dharma. So we have to start right at the beginning. Right at the basic point is question of who we are, what we are, what we trying to do in terms of art at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=183.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, some people say that art is to express themselves, so that in turn communicate to others, and some people say that art is some discovery they have made out of nowhere, so they find their way to relating with others. Some people say art is purely spontaneity, that if they find a lot, it is art in itself. So people come up with all sorts of work of art -- visual, audial, experiential of all kinds of work of art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=299.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With that particular general basic ground of work of art, that we seem to have some problem. First of all we have to look it at the situation of intention, motivation. And several motivations... basically you’ve lost your sense of identity. That people have lost their sense of connection with the rest of the world. They can’t make friends with anybody. They are maybe crazy, sick, confused, but they find one thread which is their talent in work of art, so out of that, they trying to hang onto that, trying to make a connection with the rest of the world through that way. Which is kind of regarding work of art as a saving grace of life cord. That having lost any possibilities of dealing with the world, relating with the others, so one last chance is their talent, is demonstrated out of that. Often in many cases they’ve become a great artist because their work of art, people buy their work of art, but they don’t buy the artist particularly. Often they prefer to run into their studio and buy their production and get out as soon as possible. So without it getting into personalities of the artist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=343.0,485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And other cases that people use, they-- work of art as a calling card, sort of order approach, that your work of art is expressing your personalities, and beyond that, that people begin to like the artist, they begin to accept you as artist because of your work of art. And that’s another way of magnetizing oneself to the world of art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=485.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other cases also that there is some sense of a hermit quality of an artist who purely enjoy working with their work of art. It’s not concerned with the buying or selling of the workmanship is produced. And often the person is refusing to sell it, or exhibit any work of art at all. And only discipline or pleasure they have is creation of work of art, of rhinoceros kind of concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=522.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, there are hundreds of millions of types of artists. Type, approach, and a lot of them are very neurotic and a lot of them not all that neurotic but very individualistic. A lot of them are very garish in propagating their particular ego, their particular color, form, sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=571.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I’m not particularly trying to cut down the artists, but nonetheless we have to recognize the how many-- how much neurosis came out of work of art. We could say quite safely in the present days the sixty percent of the artist's work are neurosis and the rest of them maybe are somewhat decent. Which stems from the basic idea of labeling ourselves as an artist is seem to be problematic in the some sense. That when we begin to label ourselves artist of various types -- \"I’m a poet, I’m a musician, I’m a painter, weaver, sculptor, potter,\" what have you -- that limits ourselves to reaching beyond that particular scope. And possibilities of lots of neurosis comes out of that. The hanging onto the clay in order to produce pot, hanging onto the canvas in order to produce painting, hanging onto your musical instruments in order to produce sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=612.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The theistic world has never seen any other medium beyond what you have immediate situation. Which seem to become problem, ladies and gentlemen. Analogous to immediate when you born, if you capable, immediately trying to reach up to your mother's nipples and trying to suck as fast as you could, so you don't have to think about your birth any more. Then somebody else have to produce with the nappy or diaper to wipe out your cream-colored or mustard-colored deposit the other end. We be doing that for a long time -- physically as our process with growth, as well as producing work of art. We immediately hang onto our medium and our confirmation, right away, so there is no space left at all for us to expand beyond what is there altogether. It is problematic, but on the other hand of course we could say that might be the source of possibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=735.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight we are going to talk about dharma in connected with art. A lot of you have heard that somewhat already, which might be boring subject, but on the other hand it is worth mentioning because that might be the only saving grace. \"Dharma\" meaning \"norm\", \"truth\", \"actuality of truth.\" And definitions of \"dharma\" meaning \"peace and cool.\" Peace because it reduces the heat of the neurosis. Peace and cool. Peace because it reduces neurosis, therefore it is cool; neurosis produces heat of aggression, passion, and ignorance. So we are talking about something basically very simple and ordinary. Stage where before you lay your hand on your medium, on your brush, on your clay, on your canvas, something very basic, peace and cool, free from neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=857.0,968.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The obstacles being omnipresent anxiety. And \"neurosis\" here particularly means \"that which creates obstacles to perceive phenomenal world properly and fully,\" as a true artist should do. Which not-- which doesn't allow ourselves to relate with ourselves or world outside of ourselves. There is a constant anxiety all the time. Out of anxiety we have the notion of heated, hot, hot temperature. When you enter into a room which is very hot you feel claustrophobic, there is no fresh air. Precisely that we are claustrophobic by ourselves. So basic notion of claustrophobia which need ourselves to contact our sense perceptions altogether. When there's a hundred percent claustrophobia of heat of neurosis, you can't see, you can't smell, you can't taste, you can't hear, you can't feel. So our sense perceptions be numbed all along. Which is the great obstacles of particularly work of art. But tonight we're talking about a work of art as being just basic understanding of dharma as altogether. Which is the basic problem all along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=968.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Out of that we might come over to some little gimmick. Go out in the mountains and catch baby monkey, bring back home, hopefully that little baby monkey can play around with your neck, run around on your courtyard and play in your kitchen, and hopefully that little baby monkey will be relieving your claustrophobia of heat of your neurosis. But, maybe that particular baby monkey might be good, first, and that particular baby monkey has decide to come along with you, but beyond that, and that particular baby monkey begin to become your extension of your neurosis. Because your power of neurosis is so fantastic and infected to it, so entire baby monkey is begin to become your own expression of neurosis. So that's your work of art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1102.0,1184.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then there is the heretic view of work of art, connected with one's sense of peace and coolness of it. People often say that if there is no neurosis they can't become good artists, which is heretic view. Which automatically underline-- undermines the possibilities of intrinsic beauty, or the basic beauty altogether, the concept of basic beauty altogether. Fundamentally speaking, art is regarded as an expression of some kind of beauty of something or other, which actually transcends the ordinary beauty of good and bad, but there could be a basic notion of unconditional beauty. Out of that unconditional beauty arises out of the peace and cool, basic notion of how one can relax and how one can perceive phenomenal world properly -- sight, sound, and so forth, properly experienced. The concept of talent, it seem to be out of the question of this basic idea; talent is not necessarily mean very much. We could say that everybody has the tendency of intrinsic beauty, intrinsic goodness at the same time, therefore talent is comes along with it automatically. The notion of talent meaning that your visual and audio world is synchronized together properly, and your sense of humor put together. So that you can actually perceive things truly in the fullest sense. That is talent. And the notion of talent comes from appreciation of the basic beauty and basic goodness, which come along with the idea of peace and cool notion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1184.0,1384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When person begin to perceive phenomenal world with that sense of basic goodness, peace, and beauty, the experience of conflict begin to subside. And we begin to perceive our world very clearly and thoroughly, fully. No question, no obstacles. And the anxiety subside. Therefore your sense perceptions begin to become workable because they are not distorted by any of the neurosis at all. Out of that, the notion of sitting practice obviously begin to become a very powerful one. That when we begin to relate with our thoughts, our mind, our breath, we begin to realize that there is definite discovery of clarity, of sense perceptions and thinking process, which is largely caused by our physical being. So the notion of a true artist develops the notion of basic peace and coolness of it, as well as notion of basic beauty all along, unconditional beauty. But free from neurosis.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's it, I think, tonight. ladies and gentlemen. If you'd like to have a discussion on it, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1384.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I didn't quite catch your statement about how the theistic viewpoint affects one's approach to the artistic process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think if you are highly involved with the theistic discipline, which is a confirmation of one's ego with the reference point to God, that provides some sense of basic idea of how things should be separated from your experience to what you can do so, in terms of your talent. Talent and natural rhythm are separate situation in the some sense. But on the other hand, we could say the great painters of the Western world, all of them theistic person, but we could say quite safely when they are executing their work of art, they've lost the concept of theism altogether, therefore they are able to produce fantastic work of art. And their work of art being produced we could say quite safely is expression of nontheism, the other hand. Because there is no mind while the execution of work of art is involved, either is composing music or painting, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1534.0,1644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: So then what's happening when they're not producing art? Then they're involved in some theistic dualism, is that what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As we know, a lot of them are very crazy people. All of them, most of them. So there is no postmeditation practice involved with them, except when they involved with their work of art.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which seem to be the interesting point that with the nontheistic discipline that you don't have a craziness goes with your wake-ness, so there's not much contrast involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1644.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, one of the common themes in the West is the idea that the starving artist produces the best artwork, that living under some kind of hardship is an inspiration to produce better art. Would you have any comment about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very much so, that's the medieval approach, right? And that is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, Picasso, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, except, later on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Right. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But the interesting thing is that-- that's one of the interesting thing about the twentieth century-- twentieth century, and when work of art is regard as a merchandise, everything is completely downhill. And when a work of art is regarded as expression and journey, then everything seem to be working, properly. So that's one of the projects-- themes I would like to introduce throughout this particular course, is that if we could get out of our mind the work of art is not regard as merchandise, which is the complete destruction of the whole thing. Any work of art can be produced-- can't be produced with the notion that you're going to sell it to somebody for a million dollars. And even if you make one little dot on a piece of canvas and you could sell that for a million dollars, and dot come out very bad, with that intention. And the notion of a merchandise concept is complete destruction of the whole thing. And that's why we don't have any good restaurants around here either [laughter; applause] because everything is a merchandise, so nobody can produce feel-good food. [Laughter] And everything goes with that whole thing, hotels, and restaurants, and any public service is that goes with, everything's completely merchandise, so you can't produce anything good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1692.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: So if there's a connection between the artist's work and his attempt to live his life, then there's validity to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, artist usually ignore his living life, he just purely interested in work of art. He's not interested in living life-- leading life at all. I heard this story about Einstein came to this country, and he used to use his checks as bookmarkers, he never cashed them in the bank. And that's the kind of attitude mentality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1823.0,1887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, in terms of the definition of art and in your description of basic genuineness, is the basis of a sense of appreciation or creativity, to what extent does it have an implication on the definition of art if one is actually, literally, a painter or a dancer or an artist in the sense of that kind of artist? I guess that's not entirely clear but what I'm saying [laughter] is, you know, “What is art?” actually basically? 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That a lot of the problems of unable to execute work of art is because sometimes your mind is short and your body is long, your mind is long and your body is short, so there's no synchronize the body and mind together properly. That's one of the problems. So when you are-- you see color, your mind is there as well as your eye is there, you hear a sound, your ear is there, your mind is there properly and fully on the spot, then you no problem. And that-- you might think that that's absurd thing to say, that you might say that you always have that all along, but that's not quite true. That is people have a short and long of those things happening all along, all the time. And insensitivities comes from mind and also how we can't use our body properly as a good channel, which is always obstacle as well, with a work of art. And that has become always big problem, all along. So that situation could be corrected by sitting practice of meditation, with your mind and the body working together. Ideally, before your execute work of art, sit for one hour. Synchronize your mind and body and then do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2007.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, would you say something about the problems of feature film making as art? Since it seems that-- well, occasionally a feature film gets made that seems to qualify as art. It starts as an idea and before the idea can even have a hope of actualization we're almost-- it seems almost inevitable that it become merchandise because millions of dollars are being struggled over.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Well I think if you can pay less attention to the money aspect of it but actual quality of it at the same time. The interesting way of making film in Europe and in Hollywood are slightly different approach. In Hollywood there's lots of emphasis on money possibilities. In European filmmaking, even in Russia, or Poland, the filmmaking project is much more of regarded as sportsmanship, which is entirely different psychological setup. And actually you could have body and mind synchronized that point as well, which could be worked on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2133.0,2217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, in the approach of dharma art, the state of mind of the artist is considered very important and you said that in great Western artists, though they may have been very theistic or crazy, that while they were actually producing their art they were in a nontheistic state of mind. And I feel slightly uncomfortable with that because it seems sort of, it's as though fitting the world to your theory. I'm thinking particularly of hundreds of years of church art and Byzantine art, or Handel being inspired by God or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --who's to say what state of mind the artist was in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2217.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they are-- if you look into the mystical Christian tradition that, theoretically speaking, there is no separation from you and the God, at all. When they reach the highest point of Christendom there is always unity, there's nonthought concept all the time involved, which you can actually hear if you have listen to Gregorian chant in the monasteries. Have you heard of Gregorian chant?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Listened to them? You can actually tell. Actually there is nonthought, nonduality actually taking place on the spot all the time. So it's not particularly trying to fit into our theory necessarily, and in fact the-- if you read or heard of the sermons of Meister Eckhart, he talks about that, all along altogether. About the notion of there's non-entity, nonduality, and free from concept, which is the idea of Godhead. The term \"Godhead\" had developed because that there's no God, there is no you, so therefore the [UNCLEAR: cycle? circle?] of Godhead. And that point, I think we talking the same thing. And this particular approach is not necessarily my own invention, it's all along with the mystical traditions of the Christian tradition altogether, all along. And even the Quakers and the Shakers have developed their particular traditions of arousing themselves on a certain particular moment to connect themselves with God. And when they were aroused as Quakers and Shakers, they lose their reference point altogether, they become nontheistic on the spot. Because that they are regarded as good Christians because they are-- when they come out of their trance, then we have to say, “What we call ourselves? Who we are?” And they say, \"Oh, of course there is a God exist,\" and they cover it up, unfortunately. That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2255.0,2394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We should study more about Christian mysticism -- you find out about that in their text, in the writings. The same thing could apply to Judaism as well, Islamic tradition, same as Indian. When there is a highest moment of turn on, your mind is open, on the spot, there is no-- there is *nothing* happening, therefore everything's happens. And then after thought, trying to resume ourselves be such and such, which is-- becomes very embarrassing and problematic, like a cat shit on the ground and cover it up with the dirt. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2394.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Sir, this image of Einstein and using his checks as bookmarks is proving slightly puzzling to me. Are you saying that when you switch on your awareness you don't relate to a check as a check? And you said, when you were using that image, that the artist should be more interested in the art and not in how to live his life. And I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that. I think you got the basic ideas of it. [Laughter] I think so, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you are not concerned about your knowledge is in merchandise, that's the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you regard your knowledge as merchandise, then that's the really downfall of everything, if you're a teacher, altogether. Downfall of everything. As long as you regard your knowledge is not merchandise, when it pays for itself, it seem to be a very natural process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Different kind of pride.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2460.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you. Sir, I found that a lot of artists don't have-- if they don't have a merchant approach, a lot of times because there's no real, there's no real accommodation in this culture for an artist in terms of livelihood, so it seems that a lot of artists have more of a street-fighter approach. [Laughs] And it's not so much that they regard their art as merchandise as that they feel very distrustful that the world doesn't really understand them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's we're talking about different levels. First you develop your talent as good artist, and you have to become yogi of it. That you are completely immersed in your particular talent already, then you don't have to publicize very much at all, you just come along.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn summers we have a lot of visitors from India, such as like Swami Muktananda, he is artist and he didn't have to rehearse himself in the studio as Swami Muktananda, he just come along and he did his performance. And he is a greatest artist. That kind of approach we are talking about is when you are in it, you are in it. You proclaim yourself that way, because you have no fear and no confusion, you can do so, that point. So this might take at least five years in planning of developing good artist like Swami Satchid-- Swami Muktananda [laughter] as good artist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So you'd say that an important point would be renunciation, like a yogi.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When you do that, you will be obvious. Completely obvious. There is no match, no match, matchless.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2541.0,2679.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41023/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ladies and gentlemen, we might have to close this point. And I hope that you will take part in the tomorrow's programs, which is quite a vigorous one, but sitting practice is very important in order to clear our mind and take part in properly. And once more, thank you very much for joining us in this particular program, which is very exciting. We have a lot of study and talk about it, as long as we are able to talk with each other -- with your particular perception, my particular sense of humor. Goes well. [Laughter] Thank you very much. Welcome to the Boulder, Colorado, center of work of art. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=2679.0,2737.09175"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41024","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790713VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41024/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=0.35,1.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41024/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar entitled Visual Dharma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708#t=1.82,5.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76189/file/168708/transcript/41024/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Naropa Institute\nin Boulder, 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