{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/5717m04w0z/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1979-07-15: Visual Dharma II: Talk 3: Perception"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1979-07-15"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/235/show\"\u003e1979 Naropa Institute: Visual Dharma II\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 3: Perception"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics","Poetry and Poetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["Discussion of perceiver of work of art, how to witness and appreciate art. Looking and then seeing, in that order; if we try to see first, like trying to catch fish with bare hands, trying to grasp phenomenal world instead of experiencing it as it is. Heaven, earth, and man described in terms of perceiver. First perception arises from inquisitiveness. Spontaneity of producing art lost when too much calculated measurement involved; spontaneity comes first, then accuracy. Importance of preparation of environment. Implements used in creating art regarded as sacred. In Q\u0026amp;A, audience members compose poetry following heaven, earth, and man principle."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","BOOK: Art of Calligraphy","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook III"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Joining Heaven and Earth: Part 3: Perception\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 7 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE ART OF CALLIGRAPHY (out-of-print): Heaven, Earth and Man: Part 3: Perception\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780877735915\"\u003eAbebooks\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK III (out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 06 2021 to Feb 28 2022 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Discussion of perceiver of work of art, how to witness and appreciate art. Looking and then seeing, in that order; if we try to see first, like trying to catch fish with bare hands, trying to grasp phenomenal world instead of experiencing it as it is. Heaven, earth, and man described in terms of perceiver. First perception arises from inquisitiveness. Spontaneity of producing art lost when too much calculated measurement involved; spontaneity comes first, then accuracy. Importance of preparation of environment. Implements used in creating art regarded as sacred. In Q\u0026amp;A, audience members compose poetry following heaven, earth, and man principle."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/710/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471431","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19790715VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3841.22956,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/710/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471431","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/168/710/original/19790715VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1665949723","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3841.22956,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790715VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19790715VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Visual Dharma II - Talk 3] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Visual Dharma, held at Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number three, July 15th, 1979. This is an ARP digital remaster made November 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=0.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening, once more. We discussed the notion of heaven, earth, and man principle yesterday in connection with the perceiver principle in work of art. I hope tonight we could discuss the principle of the audience point of view, the actual arrangements that takes place with the individuals who actually witness work of art. Sorry, yesterday we discussed the perception and tonight we discussing the perceiver, that order. And perceiver means, this case, somebody who has witnessed art, which means everything: the perceiver, and also process of organizing art which goes with the perceiver. The perception we discussed yesterday, is connected with idea of state of mind of artistic environment, general environment, and general sense of concept has been formed. So tonight we discuss the notion of how, when we actually execute work of art, and also how we can actually witness and appreciate work of art. So tonight's subject seem to be twofold: that of the actual creation of it, as well as having created how to witness them, how to see them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=18.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the ordinary non-dharmic world, people see them as because of fame and glory of the artists, and how much it cost to buy such work of art. Supposing Picasso had made one little scratch in a corner of a paper with his name signed underneath, it will go sold, lots of money. And as artist you think this must be the right thing. And fact remains still very mysterious, why that little scratch can be done by anybody other than Picasso. But you still believe it because it's been sold for a million dollars. So there are lot of gullibilities with that particular type. And particularly we find in this American world, supposing if you're a teacher of art in a college, you are more appreciated if you had purely facts and figures lined up, rather than artistic talent in the beyond, non-neurotic level. And we could say the same thing, that theologians should know how many hours the Jesus Christ prayed in his lifetime. And if theologians come up with the statistics down the line, you will begin to think that such person is great teacher of theologian, of theology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=198.0,355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are bounded by too much facts and figures. That is become very much problematic. And we find with a lot of work of art, such as like the Japanese ikebana arrangement, flower arrangement, has now been measured scientifically, what angle is the best angle to arrange branches, so therefore the person who has the most correct way to put branches in the-- in a pin holder and your kenzan is regarded as the best accurate person. So we have everything purely computerized the whole thing. And in turn such work of art like archery has you have a sight see through your bow, so you can shoot precisely like a gun, rather than the bow, rather than arrow shooting through your bow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=355.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We tend to lose a tremendous spontaneity somewhere by too much calculation and artistic, scientific, computerized knowledge. Obviously there's room for something like that at all, generally speaking, obviously. That capabilities and power and accuracy and precision of work of art can be measured obviously, scientifically. But to the limit of the practitioner's point of view, if you be completely watered down to the whole thing that even human beings don't need it, you might have a robot do the best work of art. Because robot is the better program than human beings are sometimes are not very yielding, they carry their own individualism, which leads us into a lot of problems and we come up ourselves with the destruction of art, that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=420.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the work of art had to be spontaneous and accurate at the same time. Because of your spontaneity therefore you could be accurate, rather than accuracy comes from-- comes first, therefore then after that you have some kind of program of spontaneity which is becoming problematic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=491.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a general perception or way to perceive things which I have discussed last year of this particular ITS on the notion of seeing and looking principle. Which I would like to say it again, this year, which seem to be very important terms of idea of a perceiver concept altogether. It is very important topic. From the point of view of the buddhadharma, you could quite safely say, first you look, second you see. In terms of executing work of art or witnessing work of art, first one looks then one sees. From the point of view of nontheism, maybe, it is been said first you see, then you look. Which seem to be an interesting kind of reversal double take.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=530.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And problematic situation with that is when you see it, then you trying to look at you have no idea which one that you're trying to see, which one you're trying to look, so then we look everywhere. And we maybe come up with a good answer or so, or quite likelihood is that we may come up with no answer. That we are so confused that because we saw it, then we try to look at it, so it's like trying to catch fish with a bare hand. It's very slippery situation to catch the phenomenal world that way. And the phenomenal world is not all that pliable as we know, already. Each time when we try to grasp we always lose it. [Laughs] And we sometimes miss altogether. We might be trying to hold onto the wrong end of the stick *altogether*, trying to see the wrong end of the thing altogether *at all*, ladies and gentlemen. It's very funny, but it's very sad too. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=634.0,711.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of looking at things as they are is very important concept. We even don't call it a concept -- experience, we could call it. Look. And looking means lot of things. Why do you look at all? We could say it listen -- why do you listen at all? Why you feel at all? Why? Why we do these things? Why do we taste? Why? The one and only answer to that is that there is such thing as inquisitiveness in our makeup, which is the seed syllable of artist who are interested in sight, sound, feelings, touchable objects. We are interested, we are inquisitive, very inquisitive, and we are willing to explore any way we can. We are appreciating the purple, the blue, the red, the white, the yellow, the violet. And when we see them we are so interested, we are-- nobody knows why, but purple sound-- looks good and sounds good. And red sounds good and looks good. And then there are obviously different shades of them as well, as we appreciate them, as we hear them, as we feel them. That particular type of tremendous inquisitiveness is seem to be the key point, way we look at things, because we have a connection taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=711.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might go back little bit of the-- what we discussed about the notion of genius, artist concept. If you are bothered with that particular notion, the answer seem to be is that person has a certain particular state of body, a person has a certain particular kind of eyes, nose, ears, mouth, tongue, body, to experience sense perceptions in the different level, altogether. And their mind, basically speaking, can communicate with any one of those thoroughly, properly, but then there *is* some problem of synchronizing particular area of their particular connection with a work of art. Supposing you could say person could be a fantastic painter but could be bad writer, or good musician but bad sculpture-- sculptor. And any of those areas is that we are not blaming on that you're-- inherently that you're punished. You have no longer any further possibilities of correcting any one of those situations. But we are talking in terms of the training of practice of meditation, and also training of understanding of work of art, and the training of fundamental and basic discipline, you *could* learn to develop synchronizing your mind and body together. So, ideally speaking, that person can accomplish all of those, completely, but shortcomings are not regarded as basic punishment from the theistic concept of original sin and you be punished by gentleman upstairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=919.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the way we synchronize our mind and body has maybe hundreds and thousands of facets of shortcomings, but those things can be corrected and matched, properly synchronized, properly. And so that first step is being learn how to look, how to hear-- how to listen, rather. Learn how to look and how to listen and how to feel. And by learn how to look, you begin to discover how to see; and learn how to hear, we learn how to listen; learn how to feel, we learn how to experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1060.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So first thing is that there is a general projection of first perception. Look when you look. Reason why you compelled to look is because you-- your inquisitiveness, and because your inquisitiveness you begin to see things. From the nontheistic discipline, one usually looks and then you see them. And it is very scientific in some sense of according to the abhidharma of the Buddhist philosophy. When sense object and the sense perception and the sense organs begin to meet together, you begin to open your aperture. And you let yourself go little bit more, open yourself, like open your aperture. So your lens is open that point. And then you see them and reflect into your state of mind that point, then you make the decisions what you've seen is either desirable or undesirable. You begin to make decisions after that. And that seem to be the basic idea of perception of how to look at work of art is also idea of heaven, earth, and man principle exist there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1115.0,1248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But not confusing it further, maybe I should give you very concrete examples of heaven, earth, and man principle tonight, which is, having looked, having seen, then you see big thing first. Which necessarily doesn't mean to say you see monolithic object or you hear monolithic sound, but you see-- maybe you see just a little flea, or maybe you might see a gigantic mountain, but nonetheless they're same thing. You have first perception of *that* which sets the foundation, is the heaven principle. In the last night's talk we discussed that's being the second one. But in the terms of perceiver's point of view that big thing is the first one. Perception, big thing, you have a big thing. That breaks your subconscious gossip and maybe sometimes shocking, maybe sometimes pleasant, or whatever the case may be there is big thing happens -- *that* -- which is called \"heaven.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1248.0,1362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the ikebana principle we have the first branch is put on your kenzan, is the principle branch put on, big thing, breakthrough maybe. Maybe quite not. And then, after that, we have earth which is a confirmation of that big thing, could be anything else. Second situation which allows the previous one is legitimate in the sense that your perception allows to do that. And it is in accordance with your first perception, therefore it is becoming legitimate and complementary. Having had those two things organized together, which makes you feel ease, comfortable, so you put man principle in the third situation which makes you feel, \"Phew, wow, we've done it.\" And then you can put a little generations of generations of messages or little playful informations around that, which is simply trying to make the whole situation simple and straight and jazz up, decorate up. And all of those are the expressions of inquisitiveness, as well as all of those are expressions of because you looked, because you listened, therefore you seen, therefore you heard. So that seem to be the general principle we are trying to work with. And it does take long time to learn how to not jump the gun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1362.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In lot of situations that we be very impatient and we have a tremendous tendency to-- looking for quick discovery or proof that we have done -- what we've done is we have done good, we have discovered, we made it worked. It is sellable, marketable, and so forth. And there is a little trick that we are all the time looking for. And none of those will have the notion of \"look and see\" principle at all. So the general approach here is that things had to be done in a grand scale, whether you like it or not. And tremendous preparation. And ideally you have to experience the basic ground where situations are clean, are workable, are pliable, that all the implements are there and it is workable. And not so much of covering up. When the emergency situation is occurred, you trying to run down to the closest supermarket and trying to purchase Band-Aid or the tapes, aspirins, to cover it up. But the general work of art, as students perceive as well as artists conduct themselves into the situation, that there need to be a good environment altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1534.0,1668.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The preparation of the environment is very important. In order to ride your horse you have to have a good saddle and possibly good horse if you can afford to buy one. In order to paint on canvas you have to have a good brush and good paint collections and good studio. If you trying to do it in behind an inconvenience and trying to work in your mousehole in your basement -- maybe it worked for some of the people in the medieval times, but in the twentieth century at this point it doesn't work. If you trying to do that you be regarded as-- obviously you're regarded as a first veteran of sort of some kind. That you live through-- you were willing to live through your dirt in presenting your art in glory, but unfortunately very few of them come up with best result. And lot of them come up with tremendous negativity and resentment to the society and everything. And your resentment to start with your landlord, who had put you into this cold-watered basement, that you be worked-- working so many hours in your fantastic work of art, and then begin to complain to your friends who have never experienced, acknowledged, and then you experience-- begin to experience further complain to your world in general, to your teacher, and begin to bellow up all sorts of garbage and negativity that way. So, the shift there is changes somewhat, little bit, because of the twentieth century, but ideal twentieth-century work of-- working with a work of art is starting at home obviously. That's fine. But clean-cut, level situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1668.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What I was saying is that-- trying to be helpful to anybody who is interested in executing work of art. That we don't have to regard starting from the gutter is the only way or the monolithic way of developing freedom. Maybe the Cubans started their independence that way, but however we are not Cubans. Some room for self-respect in a work of art is absolutely necessary. And over more, the implements one use in creating work of art is regarded as sacred altogether. Unless that we are completely depressed and we being persecuted to the extent that we can't even show work of art and we had to do it in dungeons, which we are not facing that far, yet. So we can afford to rise and take pleasure in what we're doing, and have respect and sacredness in the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you like to ask any questions you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1840.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Could you elaborate on the link between a work of art and freedom, that you just mentioned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I don't know, it's a new idea to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say something about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Perhaps the creation of a true work of art liberates the artist in the process of creating--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, ideally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --creation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1965.0,1993.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the idea. That usually the ordinary concept is that when you have a Muhammad Ali concept that each time when he becomes greater artist he had to fight more. And this concept is slightly different than that. The idea [laughs] of when you begin to synchronize your mind and body together in executing work of art, then you have some sense of relief, no struggle, and then your work of art is-- demonstrate, affected by that, because that what you produce is sense of freedom, sense of openness, and that seem to be a natural situation. And we try to design all these banners we have around on that particular fashion. That we have a site to hang the banners, and we have a certain particular cloth and silkscreened on them, and it is when you hang them on the wall it begin to celebrate by itself, without anybody looking at them. And so natural sense of celebration and freedom takes place, ideally speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1993.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So how is that freedom working in terms of the heaven, earth, and man principles in a piece of artwork that works for a person? Is it that it captures all three principles, or that it demonstrates them individually, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I could say quite safely, the heaven principle of a setting work of art which allows ourselves to perceive and create basic breakthrough. And then we have the earth principle, which actually complement that big breakthrough, and out of that we begin to appreciate the whole thing. So it's tchoo-tchoo-tchoo. The literal breakthrough and making statement, and because of that you have some sense of acknowledging that breakthrough, then after that you have some sense of appreciating your world altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2110.0,2222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So in this case looking is before heaven? Or looking, seeing, recognizing, is the first time around, and then a breakthrough in statement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ah, that's good one. You look, you see, then you find out your heaven.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So there is before heaven--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The looking is prajna, intellect, and seeing is wisdom. So after that you find your heaven principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So heaven is the union of the two of them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Heaven is definitely discover of the product which you be looking what you seeing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, that sounds like there's a space or realm that the heaven exists in then, you know, with the inquisitiveness and the prajna.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same thing we discussed last night about the heaven principle of not finding anything, so which ties together that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay, that's what I thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2222.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman back over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sir, would you go through this a little bit with poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you have to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well in terms of the perceiver, how does heaven work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably blank sheet of paper and your pen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Blank sheet of paper.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Okay, but from the audience point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Audience point of view is something is written on it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So even the shape of the poem could--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --capture you first.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, something like that. We could say, \"Hairy dog\" is the heaven principle; \"sniffs\" is the earth principle; \"loyalty to man\" is the man principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2303.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: Oh, I see. So, even title then could be heaven, almost?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2364.0,2403.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: One hears quite a bit about the possibly irrelevant concept of good art and bad art, in terms of perceiving art. Could you speak on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think? Maybe I want to hear you to say something. Can you say something from your experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2403.0,2437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: I think it must be that if the artist is honest, it's good. But how one can tell that in looking at someone else's work--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very easily, extremely easily. You could always tell when if there is deceptive corners where the intention is come along particular work of art. You can always tell. That would be very natural, absolutely obvious to somebody, you know. I think it's individual's training of how to be honest, how to be true, how not lying, not faking anything. That always comes through. And that is what we call the basic goodness of human beings and basic beauty we talked about as well, of the human beings can always pick up if somebody's trying to con you. Even subtle or gross level, you can always tell, you can always tell. And I think we have to trust ourselves that way. With a bit of sitting practice of meditation would help, of course, [laughing] but we can always tell who is trying to con who. And that's very obvious in some sense. It's very natural.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2437.0,2555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is there any difference in the perception you spoke of last night--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is there any difference in the perception you spoke of last night and the perception you were talking about tonight of the audience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well last night we're talking about person's own experience of when they create a work of art, and tonight we're talking about a person actually having created work of art and having exhibitions to the rest of the world. That seem to be differences. Two types of journeys. First you have an idea already, you have art in your mind already, right? Then you are actually going to arrange the work of art, and you're going to show it to other people, and other people going to see that particular work of art, right? That's the differences between last night and tonight, and I think they actually complement each other, ideally -- they should. Do you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Some.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2555.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, try it. Actually we should try it, work on yourself and the others. And we are not talking about theory, we are actually talking about during this particular session, we actually can do them on our own. So you can find out yourself. Maybe you can-- don't give back to the microphone. Young lady, say three words of poetry. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"I am here\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Second. [Laughter] That's maybe the heaven. Yeah, all right, \"I am here.\" What's the earth?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"That is always the hardest for me.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"That is always the hardest for me?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to say that properly. Don't jumble your language. \"That is...\" -- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"--always the hardest for me\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then, third one. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't jump on your language. Conclusion, man principle. All right, say it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"So\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: \"So.\" [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2617.0,2728.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any volunteers [laughter] to compose heaven, earth, and man poems? Anybody? Mr. [UNCLEAR: Bob? Pub?] I’m sure he can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2728.0,2757.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Heaven, earth, and man poem, please. Don't take too much time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"Sanity is brilliant\" [laughter] / \"We look for it all around\"\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Find a better one. \"Sanity is brilliant,\" that's fine. What next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"It's right there\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"It's right there\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Try another one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"We celebrate its color\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. What's the third one? That's going to be difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"I can't find the color.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't find the what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The color.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you say so. Can you say something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Its--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2757.0,2918.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Let's read it back from the first one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"Sanity is brilliant\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Sanity is brilliant\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"We celebrate its color\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"We celebrate its color.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I don't know how to join them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Try. Let the heaven, earth join. Very obvious. Say that all together, all over.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"Sanity is brilliant / We celebrate its color...\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Let heaven and earth join.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: \"Let the heaven and earth join.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. We have to give ourselves some kind of break, you know. [Laughter] You can't be too harsh all along, otherwise we find no way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=2918.0,3033.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe somebody else can come up. [UNCLEAR: Melanie??] I'm sure you could come up with something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: This is already thought out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: This is already thought out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3033.0,3065.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm asking [UNCLEAR: Melanie?] to compose.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou can do it. Very simple. Go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: \"The moon rises / the trees reflect it / and I laugh\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: \"I laugh.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good! [Laughter] In sort of non-sensational way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3065.0,3116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody who's over there who's already made? Who's that? Okay, go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay. Big blue sky--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's that, who are you? Can you stand up? Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Big blue sky\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, actually I would like to ask you to say which particular word you are trying to stress. Are you going to say \"*big* blue sky,\" or \"big *blue* sky?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Hmm. \"Big blue sky.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Big *blue*?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Big *blue* sky.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The \"blue\" is important?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Sky\" is important.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right, \"Big blue *sky*.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Big blue *sky*\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, all right. [Laughter] Do it that way. \"Big blue *sky*\", all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3116.0,3172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: \"Big blue *sky*\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Spots of sunlight on underbrush\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is important?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"*Spots* of sunlight on underbrush\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right. \"Big blue sky.\" All right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Spots of sunlight on underbrush\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"*Spots*!\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"*Spots*--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"--of sunlight--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"--on underbrush.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3172.0,3199.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, yes. Third one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Lumberjack draws back his axe.\" \"Lumberjack draws back--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Lumber*jack*.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Lumber*jack*.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Lumber*jack*\"-- no. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't quite work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"*Lumber*jack draws back his axe.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well… all right, if you say so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's what I say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right, okay. Jolly good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3199.0,3242.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody has good reading? Spontaneity? Anybody, I'm sure you can do it. There are some ladies in the back? In the back. Marcia? Is it Marcia there? Okay, Marcia first.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Stalking branches--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wait, wait, wait, wait. [Laughter] Allow you more space. [Sound of exhaling] Breathe out. Okay? All right, now say it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3242.0,3299.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Stalking branches.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Sun and sweat / Bingo\" [Laughter] \"*Bingo*\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that third? [Laughter] \"Bingo\" is third? Why \"Bingo?\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Because [laughing] somebody-- because I thought of another one and somebody else already used that ending, so I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's not good idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Not good ending?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not good ending. Say something else. Okay, start all over again. Think of something else. Say the first one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3299.0,3362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Big rocks\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Come down\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Big rocks doesn't-- they don't come down. [Laughter] Big rocks, just big rocks. \"*Big* rocks\" -- all right, what next? They don't come down.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: All right, all right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's cheeky. [Laughter] \"Big rocks,\" right?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"*Big* rocks--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"--stand\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"On--?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"--the ground\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"--the ground\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3362.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Stand on the ground.\" Let's hear it.\r\n\r\n\r\n\"Big rocks\" -- that's first thing. \"Stand on the ground\" -- right. What's third?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Oh, I thought that was. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do they do? [Whispering] Big rocks... [Yelling] What do they do?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: I want to say \"breathe,\" but that sounds really dumb. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: [Laughs] Maybe somebody else can finish it off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Oh darn. \"Always.\" \"Big rocks/ stand on the ground / always.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: I don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you read the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: [Unknown noise] Whoops. I'm sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3405.0,3494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you read the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Start from the-- do the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: \"Big rocks / stand on the ground [laughing] / always\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stop there.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: That's what I did.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARCIA: Thank you. 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[Laughter] Ooh, that's a good line - \"Hot evening / cool seminar / what next?\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you can't do that. [Laughter; laughs] You can't. No, you can't. No, absolutely not. Okay -- \"Hot evening / Cool...?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nKEN GREEN: \"--seminar\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Cool seminar\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCome up.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Growling] \"Hot...\" [Laughter] \"Hot...\"\r\n\r\n\r\nKEN GREEN: \"Hot evening / cool seminar / inquisitive teacher\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would personally say, \"Mind boggles.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nKEN GREEN: \"Mind boggles\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Mind boggles\" -- fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3578.0,3685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POETRY 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. Anybody else? Ah, are you going to compose poetry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you should.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3685.0,3703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: I have a question, your reverence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I come here about-- I was thinking about coming here about two years ago. And I was always fascinated by thangka painting because I thought that by drawing the mandala or the wheel of life and the-- by learning Tibetan sacred art it may help me in self-realization and liberation. And if you care take some minutes in the other coming session you introduce it very shortly to the thangka painting and sacred art in Tibet, we will really appreciate that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3703.0,3751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you compose a little poem? [Laughter] You could try.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I just reading books but I have no--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say it in three words--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --intimate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --in poetry? I'm sure you can do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You like me to say something of poetry about...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3751.0,3777.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just compose one. Can you compose one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Uh...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably you can. I'm sure you can. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3777.0,3794.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: \"Life is short / art is long\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Third one. Third one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: \"Where is self-liberation?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a haiku. That's fine. Great! [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3794.0,3830.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41141/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you ladies and gentlemen. Well, we probably could come up with more poetry session as we go on. And I would like to request you to sit more, obviously, and thank you very much taking part in this.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3830.0,3841.22956"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790715VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=0.35,1.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar entitled Visual Dharma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=1.82,5.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Naropa Institute\nin Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=5.69,8.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\nJuly 15th, 1979.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=8.18,12.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade November 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=12.18,18.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nGood evening, once more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=18.73,23.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We discussed the notion\nof heaven, earth,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=23.03,29.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and man principle yesterday\nin connection","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=29.66,37.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the perceiver principle\nin work of art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=37.39,45.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hope tonight we could\ndiscuss the principle","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=46.3,52.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the audience\npoint of 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Great!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3814.97,3818.372"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3818.372,3823.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThank you ladies and gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3829.96,3832.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we probably could come up\nwith more poetry session","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3832.83,3836.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as we go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3836.84,3839.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would like to request you\nto sit more, obviously,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3840.21,3847.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and thank you very much\ntaking part in this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710#t=3847.53,3850.05"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76191/file/168710/transcript/41142/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/041/142/original/19790715VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1673240114","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/041/142/original/19790715VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1673240114"}]}]}]}