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We begin from a bewildered place of not knowing who we are and wanting to prove we exist (skandha of form). Next we reach out and try to feel something to maintain our confusion (skandha of feeling); we reject or accept what we're feeling (skandha of impulse); we lay our concepts on it (skandha of intellect); and finally we add discursive thoughts to make it more substantial (skandha of consciousness). This process is how we secure a false sense of self and other.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 12 2024 to Jun 15 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroduction to the five skandhas, a core Buddhist teaching on the building blocks of ego and how ego operates. We begin from a bewildered place of not knowing who we are and wanting to prove we exist (skandha of form). Next we reach out and try to feel something to maintain our confusion (skandha of feeling); we reject or accept what we're feeling (skandha of impulse); we lay our concepts on it (skandha of intellect); and finally we add discursive thoughts to make it more substantial (skandha of consciousness). This process is how we secure a false sense of self and other.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/548/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344771","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-3ailgt.mpga"]},"duration":3089.7695,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/548/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344771","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/548/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-3ailgt.mpga?1759343362","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3089.7695,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720127VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720127VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1972 - Class 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado Classes, held in 1972 in Boulder. This is class number two, January 27th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made September 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, class held on Tibetan Buddhism at Colorado University in the spring semester of 1972. This will be January 27th, part one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=0.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Having discussed already about the basic idea of Buddhism in terms of development in different countries, that I feel we should discuss the ideas of basic core of Buddhism, which is based on idea of meditation. Without practice of meditation, that there is no way of relating with Buddhism at all. Without relating with the ideal intellectual understanding as well as a personal concept of what they are, and intellectual understanding of logics of Buddhism, there is no other way of understanding Buddhism as such at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=40.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhism is based on idea of unifying situation of intellect and intuition together -- you can't deny one or the other at all. So from this point of view that I would like to discuss tonight, as basis of our study in next ten weeks, or whatever it may be, sound fundamentals of Buddhism, basic core of Buddhism, basic fundamental ideas. Why Buddhism, why not Buddhism. Why not buddhadharma, why buddhadharma. Why Buddha found his path, and why he didn't accept existing situation. That's pretty simple, actually. I'm not particularly trying to lay heavy trips on anybody at all. It's relating with ourselves, actually. Buddha as Gautama -- confused, uncertain. He saw pain, misery, confusion, and he is confused because of confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=107.0,211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That confusion is definite confusion. It is not confusion because of it is based on certain other inferiority complex of any kind at all. That confusion is genuine confusion, because he doesn't-- he didn't know what he was or what he is. Whole thing starts from that level. Confusion stands as direct and simple confusion. What we are, who we are, what are we trying to achieve? Who we are? \"Am I individual person by name of such-and-such person, or am I such-and-such person because I have got questions?\" And both seem to be true. You are individual person as such-and-such person, and you have questions of such-and-such person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=211.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the whole we are uncertain who we are, what we are, absolutely none. We do not know who we are, what we are, actually, *actually*. Beyond our names, beyond our concepts of what we are, we do not know who we are, what we are, where we are at all. That's basis of bewilderment. But we would like to prove-- we would like to prove that what we are *is* what we are, who we are is what we are. We would like to prove that. But it is uncertain how we could do it, absolutely uncertain. We do not know how we could prove that basic sanity, basic question-or-answer situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=313.0,391.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We do not know who we are, what we are, *how* we are, absolute confused. If you watch ourselves we could have some conclusions, but if we don't watch, if we just wait, what we are, who we are, we do not find anything at all, complete loss, absolute loss, complete bewilderment, absolute bewilderment. Because for the very fact we begin to wait for the answer; as soon as we begin to wait for the answer that means that we are trying to formulate answer in a certain mold of idea of concepts. And that because of that there's no answer *at all*. Answer could be answer of another answer, so there's no answer at all. Question is in itself question. There's no question at all. We are completely bewildered, uncertain, nobody knows who we are, what we are, absolutely none. Completely lost. Nobody knows who we are, what we are, absolutely, fundamentally, basically, in the fundamental sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=391.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the Buddhist tradition that there are three types of bewilderments of this nature: confusion, bewilderment of not knowing who we are, as it is; and the confusion and bewilderment of not knowing who we are as it wasn't, as it is *not*; and the confusion and bewilderment as it could be. [Laughs] Could take note on that. [Laughs; laughter] Who could be, what couldn't be, what could be. Very interesting. Those three basic principles of personal alternatives hovers around in our psychology, on and on and on and on like fan with the three flaps, on and on and on, goes on and on and on. *And* on and on and on. Which creates ultimate bewilderment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=513.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As Dr. Guenther talks about in his book on teachings of Naropa, [LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF NAROPA] he refers [to] it as \"bewilderment errancy,\" which is quite true. It is bewilderment errancy, make error out of it. Trying to find-- trying to pin down on something, which we are not uncertain what is, what is not, what could be, and it go on, goes on and on and on. Finally that we find that our mind is completely intoxicated the whole thing, completely uncertain. That we begin to find our mind is completely confused and completely bewildered, because we are uncertain of the head or the tail or whatever it may be, completely, covered the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=636.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then, there is a chance, the last chance, we may be able to do something out of that, because we are confused. \"Why don't we try to get into the situation of reaching out into something, in spite our being confused? Why don't-- why can't we just extend our antenna or our tentacle to something?\" And we do that. We touch to the feeling, bewilderment, and feeling -- kind of like you’re trying to reach something. We trying to reach out of some kind of texture, favorable and unfavorable. Some *thing* is there. Either it is a smooth texture, or irritating texture, or it is inviting texture. And then we trying to reach out further and further as much as we can. Impulse. Having discovered texture, that we can extend out something: \"Why don't we make this into our cult?\" Sense of cult, a sense of occupation. Then you have the third move that you make, is trying to make whole thing as a cult of impulse. Having felt rough, having felt the smooth, reject or accept, that we begin to put out our impulse situation is in terms of cult. And pick or choose, reject or accept, goes on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=720.0,881.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that level that there is a-- those two situations of basic paranoia and feeling are not enough, we have to put them into literal situation of conceptualized form. So begin develop intellect -- intellect in the sense of naming them, putting a particular concept on the living situation as such, of concept, metaphysical ideas of things as they are. Lay heavy trips on things have their implications behind, and we would like to put things into very solid, definite grounding situations, as such. And that is not quite enough, because we have to maintain that basic intellect and emotional touch, whatever it may be. We have to set up some kinds of padding for it, make sure that whole thing will continue, consciousness. Consciousness in the sense of discursive thoughts, grasshopper-like thoughts, cinema-show-like thoughts, and all kinds. We begin to put certain basic phenomena of situation that we could fix ourselves into, basic situation as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=881.0,1047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole process of ego in this case involves three stages of ignorance and then the feeling, trying to feel the situation as it is, textures of the things as they are, trying to relate with those textures of things as they are, in terms of manipulating, in terms of an impulse -- what is quicker, what is not quicker, terms of relate with sustaining that confusion, that ignorance, that bewilderment. And in order to maintain those situations, we do need some intellectual understanding of naming and labeling things as they are. In order to label things as they are we don't want lose touch of the whole intellect, whole scholarly-- scholarship ideas of metaphysical ideas. In order to maintain metaphysical ideas we have to put discursive thoughts, sexual fantasies, or discursive fantasies, or aggressive fantasies, we should pad altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1047.0,1125.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So fundamentally that whole thing is completely secured, that there is something to continue all the time in the fringe. And something to sustain in between by intellect. Not only sustaining it, but something that present the structure as bone and something to react as the brain, so we have developed ego as brain, which is the feeling at the beginning, we developed ego as structure for... of antenna or tentacles. In order to function tentacles as such we have established concept to validate whole thing. In order to function these tentacles we have the thought process happening all the time to maintain itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1125.0,1224.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the function of ego as such is like body situation: you have developed brain, you develop your limbs, you develop your blood circulation, and you've developed manipulative process of blood circulation as such. And it seem to function extremely well in the ordinary situation is concerned, that it is seemingly functional mechanism that had developed. And I think next discussion we are going to have next week is related with those five types of situations of ego's manufacturing in its existence. And we'd like to relate with the whole thing in terms of the battle of the ego, in terms of the application of ego along with the practice of meditation. But still today I would like to-- tonight, as such, I would like to make sure that everybody understood those three-- or five procedures of ego's manufacturing process: its maintaining as such the basic confusion, trying to feel the situation, establishing organism, and initiating organism as a valid situation, then finally experiencing or establishing the circulation of ego as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nCould have discussion this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1224.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said-- so you're saying that ego is a necessary function of life? Is that what you said?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Ego is necessary for you to function. Is that what you said?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as confusion is concerned. But the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If there's no confusion, there is no ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If there's no confusion, there is no ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We will discuss that next time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Ah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But it seems, as a way what we do, is ego is part of the neurosis of human mind that happens. It seem to be functionally important. We do have our concept, we do have the emotions, we do have thought process, otherwise you cannot function. But that does not necessarily mean that is the only way, at all. There could be another way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1373.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right at the start, you talked about how we had to both experience through meditation and how we had to discuss for intellectual value of it. I don't understand why it is necessary to-- for people to discuss the philosophy, because isn't it true that once we have experienced and become stabilized, won't we receive universal knowledge? So that it won't really be important for people to be telling us about different types of philosophies?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by universal knowledge?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Knowledge that comes to an individual once he is stabilized.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Satori.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, like satori, the Buddhist philosophy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you do need some kind of idea or ideal understanding of things as they are, in terms of intellect. Without that you have no idea of how to relate with the intellect. And unless you suppress any idea of intellect at all, which seem quite dangerous, there's no other way at all. You do need some form of intellect to relate with the living situations of understanding of one's own fundamental psychology.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But was Buddha-- he really wasn't taught a certain philosophy, was he? Didn't he just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, he wasn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right, didn't he just come to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, when I talk about intellect, doesn't mean to say philosophy, but just personal discoveries of \"things are so, things aren't so.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right, but that's the important thing is personal discovery.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that *is* intellect.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But it can't really be discussed, can it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be discussed, because if you understand, things doesn't connected together.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, I mean it can't be discussed until you understand--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Two plus two is a hundred -- doesn't mean anything. One have to work into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1432.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When you described the three types of bewilderment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. When you described the three types of bewilderment in the beginning, especially the one in terms of what could be, it seemed to presuppose ego to a certain extent. See what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so, yes. The ego is uncertain, there is no such thing as ego at all. Ego is manufactured out of those three types of confusions, bewilderment. There's no such thing as ego at all at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But I mean the bewilderment in terms of what we could be seems to involve some kind of conceptualization, in terms of [INAUDIBLE] and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What's the history of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. Just simple existence. Any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1596.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So those three states of confusion are what we're born into. Are they the first things that are evident to us? That's what we start with? First-- can you hear me? [Laughter] Well, you're saying the first-- first there was confusion, was that-- we have-- the confusion is there and then we develop whatever develops, an ego from that? But the saying that you are born as the Buddha, or with a clear mind at birth doesn't have anything to do with that? You have to discover-- that has to be discovered later, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think confusion should be discovered on the spot, without going through the process of analogy of what we are or who you are as such. It happens on the spot. In order to understand the confusion you don't have to become Buddha, at all. You could be what you are. And understanding confusion hits right home at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1672.0,1808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] at first that we do know all of it and in a lifetime we just have to open up to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I couldn't hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Did you hear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say it again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I was saying that I sort of think in answer to his question that at birth that we do know all of what we would want to know, and during the lifetime in order to perceive this, it's just a matter of opening up to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, terms of condition, as long as that we don't relate with the learning process is something that we had to manufacture, but something is related with the awakening of what we innate nature, what our being, as such. And then if you trust our innate nature of potentials that we have of those awakening situation, that seem to be the situation of understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1808.0,1891.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: At the beginning of the lecture, you spoke of the meditation or intuition side of it, plus the intellect side of it, both of them being indispensable. If the meditation side of it essentially weakens discursive thoughts, then it's hard to understand because discursive thoughts are needed for the intellectual part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well discursive thought--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In terms of putting together the information, how does that-- how could I understand that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The discursive thought doesn't have to be intellect.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's not intellect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, they are just gossip, subconscious gossip. And intellect is quite different from that. It's seeing things as they are. Absolutely different from that point of view. Quite different.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What sort of a process then would go on in putting together information, for instance in taking a course [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By things as they are. There's tremendous lot of materials on that thing-- seeing things as they are. You don't have to go through the gossip at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1891.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'm not clear on what you said in the beginning about three types of confusion -- what was, what is, and what will be -- and how that relates to just feelings. At that stage, some-- we haven't gotten to that stage yet of concept, naming things. It seems that-- I don't understand how you have a past, present, and future, which seems to be a very conceptual kind of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How could [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, in other words, you talked about the confusion of what was, the confusion of what is, and the confusion of what will be, naming that basic confusion. But that's the very beginning stage. And it seems that the past, present, and future are within the realm of concept. So that I don't understand how you can have those three types of confusion, since at that stage it seems to be much more simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Much more what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Simple and not so highly developed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well because it it not highly developed, therefore there is chance to relate with that situation. And \"what is\" does not mean what is *really*; and \"what will be\" does not mean what it *will* be; \"what was\" does not mean what *was*. Whole idea is based on the concept of \"me\" relating with what will it be, what might be, what could be. So at the beginning there is confusion of dualistic split between \"me\" and \"my situation.\" So situation speaks of what could be, what was, what will be. So whole thing is based on basic, fundamental split between failing to relate with things as they are -- instead of things as they are you begin to interpret them, what will be, what could be, what is. It's based on the fundamental, basic distrust in what is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=1996.0,2150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that what you meant by existence, that you find yourself just in existence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Existence trying to feedback our existence as it is, of dwelling on three concepts of past, present, future, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2150.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What guides our learning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What guides us in our learning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean what is guide?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, yeah. What, you know, what is guidance? Is it-- it's not an impulse, it's not our intellect, it's not our ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But our basic trust in allowing ourselves to develop, rather than trying to push, trying to initiate new topic, new idea, or new concept as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So it's spontaneous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Because whole idea is that we don't have to impose anything on it. We should allow ourselves awake, fundamentally, as much as we can. The fundamental process begin to develop in its own accord. If you allow it to do that, it happens spontaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do-- can we ever become confused through that instant? You know, like if we're always open to new, you know, new learning situations, can we become confused at certain times?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's part of the path, that's part of the process. You are confused because you are just about to receive what is not confusion, therefore you are confused. And you go through your confusion as part of the path. So confusion is very necessary at this point. Confusion is the vanguard of the understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2185.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'm curious about bodily pollution.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You about what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: As in Shinto. One of the main goals is to keep a clean-- to keep completely clean, to keep yourself in the state of what Shinto has to offer. I'm curious about Buddhism and bodily pollution.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Couldn't hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: She was asking about bodily pollution.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodily pollution. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: She's concerned about it, and wants to know, I guess, how you feel about it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I was referring to alien elements, not necessary to the physical body.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seemed that if you alienate yourself from the elements then you are alienated already. That's the basic of a psychological attitude to elements. If you alienate from the elements, you are alienating yourself automatically. Whereas if you begin relating with the elements you begin make relationships. That seem to be based on how much wall you built in between reality and what is earthy situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2319.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Okay, when you were talking about the five processes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Processes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --anyway, you were talking about five somethings. And you started out with confusion and feeling out the situation. And I wasn't quite sure what you were referring to, I think you were referring to building up the ego out of the confusion. And-- so you had the confusion, and then you felt out the situation, and then you sort of established the ego to have yourself, I think you said. And then you established sort of a pattern of-- a working pattern for the ego. Am I correct? I got kind of lost and confused.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. That's right. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I wasn't quite sure what you were referring to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Related with the ego, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2425.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What is a strong man?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What is a strong man?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Strong man?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on what you mean \"strong.\" What is feeble?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2503.0,2524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When you talk of [INAUDIBLE] five development, the first one being confusion, the second one impulse, the third one name and form, and then you seem to go to discursive thought. I'm not sure, but I think that you left out the fourth. Or did I miss it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have the basic idea of confusion, then you have the feeling, you have the impulse, and then intellect trying to put things into perspective situation, and then you have consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Which is discursive thought?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is discursive thought, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I see, you left out any discussion of the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --the emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well emotions relate with feeling in the beginning, after the ignorance. Emotions are related with trying to feel what is right, what is wrong, in terms of trying to feel textures of temperaments. That is emotions. Trying to sense some area that you can grasp, or you can magnetize, or you can destroy, whatever it may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2524.0,2632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I'm trying to see what is right and what is wrong in a certain action or a certain situation. It seems to be more of a process, a thought process, than it does a feeling process. Maybe that's, you know, drawing a thin line over it, but I still don't see, according to his question, it would be-- how the process of emotion fits into your five steps of bewilderment, whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean what's wrong, what's right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean what is wrong, what's right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes, I don't see the-- how the emotion-- the emotions and its relation to the ego fits in to determining what is right and what's wrong.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well what seem to be right--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --is what is not wrong. What seems to be wrong is what is not right-- what is right, I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That's a very logical statement. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whole thing happens logically. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whole thing happens logically. What *is* and what shouldn't be, therefore it isn't regarded as wrong. And what is and what should be, is regarded as right. Because wrong and right have its root in maintaining some basic characteristic of one's existence, to sustaining one's existence as such. So I don-- fundamentally speaking from Buddhist point of view, Buddhism does not believe in a conventional right and wrong at all. There's no room for that. Buddhism does not believe in the fundamental-- for instance, original sin, at all. Original sin does not exist in the Buddhism, because nobody's really, fundamentally conde-- or convicted.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, then another question is that one about how do you know that you're in a situation and you're trying to decide, you know, how to act, whether--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --what you're acting with your actions--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --is hot there, whether water's hot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean very simple, extremely simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I was thinking about a little more complicated situation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't jump off Empire State Building, because it's too high, it might kill you. [Laughter] It's *extremely* simple. You don't have to lay heavy trips on the good and bad on that. You don't have to say that jumping off the Empire State Building is a sin or wrong to do it, but it is detrimental to do it. [Laughter] It's very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2632.0,2873.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What about interactions with-- [unknown gesture or incident;  laughter] what about interactions with people you might deem as demented, or [laughter] something along that line?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well certainly you have a chance to relate with the actual situation. Anyway there is no chance, you can't escape from that at all. I mean that's the idea of a Buddhist empire, kingdom of Buddhism -- that organic, whole thing is organized, you don't have to have politicians arrange things but organically you arrange the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2873.0,2937.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you relate the intellect in terms of seeing things as they are, with the type of intellect-- the type of situation that usually occurs in studying courses in college, for instance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's part of it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you take notes? You go--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be part of it, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be part of it. Intellect, it's like in the colleges, it requires your sharpening of understanding of using common sense. So that that particular metaphysical concept does not overpower you or intimidate you. Quite simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2937.0,2993.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85002/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think probably we should have a discussion group this point. I would like to have discussion groups of splitting our group into sections, that certain people here could be leaders of the discussion. Could anybody stand up for the leaders of discussions, names?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, check... I think the easiest thing to do is if I just read out names, five-- four groups, and either group can move, and they'll be roughly group leader. So I'll-- what can happen is that, I'm not sure these rooms are available, but if you get to one of these rooms and it's taken, then find this group leader, and his main function as leader will probably be to find an empty room. So… Room 241. I'll just read out last names and some may be duplicated. Pearl, Shulman, [INAUDIBLE], Ullman, Zaleski, Fleischman, Gurns, Hollenbeck, Johnson.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=2993.0,3089.7695"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720127VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche, University","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=0.77,5.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Colorado Classes,\nheld in 1972 in Boulder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=5.21,9.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number two,\nJanuary 27th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=9.13,14.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom\nremaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=14.11,19.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa\nRinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=19.79,22.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"class held on Tibetan Buddhism\nat Colorado University\nin the spring semester of 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=22.98,30.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be January 27th,\npart one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=30.3,35.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Having discussed\nalready about\nthe basic idea of Buddhism","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548#t=40.73,49.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161699/file/293548/transcript/85003/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of development\nin different 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