{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/5h7br8nc8v/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1975-08-07: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra: Talk 6: The Process of Perception"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1975-08-07"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/227/show\"\u003e1975 Naropa Institute: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 6: The Process of Perception"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A talk about steps in developing clearer perception. Usual view of reality as space we operate in in our ordinary lives; brings comfort and confusion. Fuller view of reality emerges through sitting practice of meditation. Brings absence of aggression, world becomes more penetrating, even painful, but also humorous. Describes levels of perception as \"seeing\" with all sense perceptions, a gradual process.  Seeing on \"absolute: level necessary in dharma art. Demonstrates ways of seeing in slide presentation. Detail of thangka of Milarepa in his cave, cooking nettles.  Emphasizes that all iconography has psychological implications. Second slide a close-up of rusted machinery in Massachusetts, dry grasses, slivers of sky. Thangka and photograph express different cultural heritages, but even image of machine contains compassion, non-aggression, beauty.  Third image of two bare trees meeting in sky. Space of sky and \"hollowness\" of trees analogous to ourselves. Fourth a block sign \"EXPLOSIVES\" at foot of Vermont mountain. Notes humorous quality, solidness of image also containing space. In Q\u0026amp;A, points out circular movement of perception, whether reading a book, looking at somebody, painting, calligraphy. World not as square as we thought."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","VIDEODVD: True Perception","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook I"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: The Process of Perception\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 07 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: TRUE PERCEPTION\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK421\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\n\nSRCBOOK: VISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK I (out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 03 2021 to Aug 26 2021 Transcribing: Sophie Perks Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about steps in developing clearer perception. Usual view of reality as space we operate in in our ordinary lives; brings comfort and confusion. Fuller view of reality emerges through sitting practice of meditation. Brings absence of aggression, world becomes more penetrating, even painful, but also humorous. Describes levels of perception as \"seeing\" with all sense perceptions, a gradual process.  Seeing on \"absolute: level necessary in dharma art. Demonstrates ways of seeing in slide presentation. Detail of thangka of Milarepa in his cave, cooking nettles.  Emphasizes that all iconography has psychological implications. Second slide a close-up of rusted machinery in Massachusetts, dry grasses, slivers of sky. Thangka and photograph express different cultural heritages, but even image of machine contains compassion, non-aggression, beauty.  Third image of two bare trees meeting in sky. Space of sky and \"hollowness\" of trees analogous to ourselves. Fourth a block sign \"EXPLOSIVES\" at foot of Vermont mountain. Notes humorous quality, solidness of image also containing space. In Q\u0026amp;A, points out circular movement of perception, whether reading a book, looking at somebody, painting, calligraphy. World not as square as we thought."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/209/small/19750807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4_1659504882.jpg?1659504890","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4665.16753,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/209/small/19750807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4_1659504882.jpg?1659504890","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/209/original/19750807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4?1659504873","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4665.16753,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750807VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750807VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra - Talk 6 - The Process of Perception]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=0.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. I would like to discuss again, the question of reality. [Laughter] It's very confusing subject, and nobody knows, but everybody knows that *somebody* knows. And that seem to be the problem that we are facing, actually. That maybe nobody knows *at all*, or maybe *everybody* knows. And the point here is to not trust on the purely information, suggestions, and ideas that come to you from external sources of all kinds. But actually work with oneself. And personally trying to develop a sense of understanding, and a sense of appreciation, *with* reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=45.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Reality seem to be a basic space that we usually operate in our ordinary life, everyday life situation. That reality has some sense of a-- brings some sense of comfort, and at the same time it brings also some sense of confusion, at the same time. And the sense of comfort and confusion, seem to be the basic play between the two. That when we begin to perceive our phenomenal world, that we cannot appreciate phenomenal world as just purely, simply being something very gray, and non-descriptive, camouflaged level. That we have to perceive our phenomenal world; in order to perceive, in fact we have to see some kind of highlights, of all kinds. Those highlights are psychological highlights, which might perceive a visual form or audio form or whatever it's may be, but they are perceived by some sense of fascination. Such fascination may be based on a sense of further confusion, quite possibly. But nevertheless it's still sense of perception. That when we perceive an object, when we take a look at an egg, cup of tea, there is a sense of boredom, in that. Because the such things being ordinary, domestic situation: that you know what egg is like, you know what tea is like. But when we are presented with something *extraordinary*, then we begin to have a feeling of being treated, or some special kind of show, some special kind of entertainment, in which that we begin to feel that, \"This might be *it*. I am looking forward to this. I would like to see and appreciate this fullest, as much as I can.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=122.0,291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So either that excited level of state of mind, or ordinary state of mind, whatever the case may be, still there is a sense of confusion, sense of aggression, that always takes place. That's what we be talking about past few weeks. And the aggression in the visual dharma, and audio dharma, is the obstacle in order to understand the reality, fullest reality of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=291.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems to be a natural situation, that without any kind of form of actual sitting practice of meditation, in order to make friends with oneself, that nothing can be heard or seen in as fullest extent as we would like to perceive. So, some kind of actual fundamental discipline seem to be absolutely important and necessary, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=343.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that discipline, slowly, gradually we begin to branch out into a real world, world of chaos, pain, anxiety, and everything. That we begin to find this world is extraordinarily entertaining, extraordinarily boring, threatening, and so forth. It might be extremely boring, because there are no new games taking place, everything's familiar. It might be extraordinarily entertaining, because all sorts of new games taking place in our life. But all of those are direct perception from aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=381.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That doesn't mean to say that when you reach state of non-aggression, that you cease to perceive anything. But you begin to perceive certain things in a certain *particular* way, that the absence of aggression, and maybe further clarity, because nothing is based on the anxiety level that point. Nothing is particularly based on ideas, or ideals of all kinds anymore. That you are begin to see things as without a demand. You are not trying to buy anything or sell anything to anybody anymore. It's a direct and a very personal experience. [Laughs] It becomes so personal, that sometimes experience of state of nonaggression is quite painful. And reason why it would be painful is because the obstacles of any kind is been completely cleared out. You are-- for the first time you are seeing things as from the point of view of pure vision, pure clarity. You begin to hear music purely, and see colors things, visual things, *purely*, in its fullest purity. And when you become more sensitive to experiences, that things begin to become more *penetrating*, they begin to make more sense. And so therefore there is possibilities of somewhat irritation is involved, but at the same time there's lots of humor involved as well at the same time. That you don't feel that you have to hassle, you have to trying to swim across this tremendous demand that the world is making on you. You don't have to try to push *back*, anymore either. So there is a sense of clarity, which is extraordinarily pleasing, appreciative, but a sense of overwhelming precision, which makes things, experience terribly painful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=462.0,598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So as far as this particular journey of seeing vision as they are, experiencing iconographical set ups of the world -- of the sacred art, we could say -- is a state of mind. As much as Bombay Gin. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=598.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Many cases we try so *hard*. We're trying to understand -- we are so eager, so eager, that eagerness begin to become numbness, that we are so eager. That we misunderstand things *a lot*. Sometimes that we-- our mind becomes completely blank; we couldn't actually communicate, we forgot our sentence to put together, we forgot what to write down, and we lose our memories, and all kinds of things taking place in us. The expression of eagerness is become problematic. Which is-- \"eager\" is somewhat euphemistic term for \"speed\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=630.0,686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know how much we could achieve in this short period of time, that we don't have that much time to discuss, and sort things out properly, as much as I would like to do very much. And the previous talks that I have given, and things we worked together together, I try to put as much as energy and effort together as best to my ability. But we should still try, I suppose, and it's a question of what you going to do when you go your hometown, and what you're going to take back to home. And what kind of working basis you have. And one of the important point is that I don't want you to forget what is been taking place at this particular case. What we have discussed, I want you to reread your notes, examine your life, examine your experiences that goes with that particular thing, and also try to experience them, properly. So that your life becomes worth living and there's lots of learning situations taking place. And a little salesman's pitch maybe, this point. But it would be good that if you could get a hold of the tapes of these sessions, think you should-- could take back home, and listen to them again. Because since you took part in this, you have some kind of visual participation in it. So audio participation and hearing the tapes would be good, so that we should continue in working on this project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=686.0,785.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our project in this particular case as far as my class is concerned, I have no idea exactly precisely the other classes taking place at the Institute, but as far as my class is concerned, that this particular work is hundred years’ project. That I do not expect that suddenly there's a bright students who understand the whole thing, at the end of the course particularly, and wouldn't be put off. If there is suddenly somebody come up, and think that he or she understand the whole thing, that would be too corny. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=785.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Getting back to the visual aspect of the whole that we're going to discuss tonight, and we have lots of slides tonight. [Laughter] And some of them based on idea of perceiving world with lots of space. And some of them involved with the idea of perceiving world with *no* space. And when you have experience of \"no space\", that is also saying the same thing: it is at the same time happens to be space. Because when you begin to crowd, overcrowd the whole thing, that the crowdedness becomes space at the same time. That visual perception becomes reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=836.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That what we are trying to do along on those perception level, is that, according to the traditional pattern, that there is a perceptional level, that when you begin to perceive, when you begin to see something, visually, there is also a lot of levels developed. First you see with your eyes, and then you smell with your eyes, and then you hear with your eyes, and then you begin to touch with your eyes, to the object. So each particular sensory perception has that aspect taking place all the time. So when you hear something, you actually smell something at the same time, visually -- only visually. Or, you can take part in the audio level as well: when you hear something, you see something first, then you hear, then you smell, then you touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=889.0,965.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So psychological shift that takes place perceiving something, takes a lot of gradual process: when you begin to see something, experiencing something personally, realistically, that you begin to feel. You made a first connection abruptly, basically, which goes with the impulse. And as you perceive further, then you begin to smell them, because of their texture and their particular set-up, and what kind of vibration that particular visual object is going to present you. And then you begin to *hear* that particular visual object has textural situation, as well as they actually breathes, whether it's breathe hard or soft, whatever. Actually you can hear the breath, or the heartbeat of that particular visual object, you can *see* that heartbeat of the visual object; you can hear it and see it at the same time, which is saying the same thing, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=965.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, finally you begin to take immense interest in it, because you have gone through all those process. Then you begin to trying to touch, visually -- actually trying to commit yourself into that particular perspective. You begin to actually relate with the things, whatever goes on in your-- for your world, you begin to actually touch. Begin to feel the *real* texture of it. Not the audial texture, or the sense of smell of that particular texture, or the sense of first flash of the visual texture, but you actually able to establish yourself in a total communication, that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1034.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's how it takes place all the time. And whatever we do in our lifetime, and whatever our perceptual level, we can relate with the taste, and the feelings, of our body. Or we could relate that with the hearing system, or smelling system, or seeing system, tasting system, which is connected with eating food, hearing music, seeing visual things, wearing different types of clothes, taking swim, or whatever it's may be. That there is those three-- those four categories takes place all the time. That how we actually perceive things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1076.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are some problems that exist in the terms of psychosis. That we sometimes jump back and forth. That we do not have regular gradual process of seeing things as they are, properly. That we have some kind of -- we touch on some kind of edge of some kind, and then we bounce back from that particular edge, and we begin to come back to that edge, and we begin to have a dialogue with ourselves. And begin to tell ourselves a story. \"Maybe this is not right, then maybe this is not true. Maybe this is the ideal situation. Let's talk about, let's think about.\" And go on and on and on. All the time we can bounce back and forth that way. Which is the tendency of psychosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1115.0,1161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the tendency of neurosis is concerned with perceiving vision -- a visual perception we are particularly concerned this point, as concerned. It's not so much of seeing colors properly; even if you're colorblind you can still do it. When we begin to see *things*, some *things*, that first thing is we have a question. That is the visual part: seeing things. Perspective, that world we see is framed in our eye level, which is a sort of oval shape, egg shape that we see. You can't see more than beyond our eye-level situation. And then you begin to smell that, which is goes back on-- back of your head, and you smell behind, what you see. And there is some kind of commentator comes along, and seeing \"this object is something something. It has some kind of smell-- odor in it.\" And not only that but then we begin to hear that particular object, from all over -- not behind and in front alone, but underneath us, above us, we begin to feel some sense of something is there, actually we try to figure out what it is might be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1161.0,1259.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then finally when we begin to establish some kind of relationships involved, then we begin to touch, which is a very direct and forward situation, we begin to feel personally. And we trying to make decision by saying, \"I buy it, or I reject it. I don't like it, I like it.\" And such process takes place in a fraction of a second -- [snaps fingers] -- very fast. And \"jing, jing, jing, jing.\" It goes very fast, and takes place in a very simple pace. And there is that kind of mechanism is taking place all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1259.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were talking early on about the absolute experience of the whole thing. The \"dharma art\" aspect of it. As far as the dharma art aspect is concerned, that we begin to see things as they are, along with what we experienced. But at the same time after we've *touched*, on the thing as they are, then you begin to have no acceptance or rejections, but we begin to be *with* object of perception. We simply just to trying to be that way. So there is a kind of standing still, or \"stalemate\", whatever you like to call it. That \"comment\" becomes unimportant. Comments become unimportant. Remarks are unimportant. But seeing things as they are become the real \"thing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1297.0,1369.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's like, in the midst of a big puddle, a frog sits, and constant rain falls over it, and the frog simply just winks his eyes to the each rain that drops on his eyes. But still doesn't change his posture. Frog doesn't trying to go back to the puddle, or trying to get out of the puddle. That's the symbol of Sitting Bull. [Laughs] And the frog becomes Sitting Bull.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1369.0,1421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, without too many further bullshitting [laughter], we could proceed with some slides that we tried to worked out tonight. And maybe we should look at them. Okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1421.0,1437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 1: Thangka Detail of Milarepa in the Cave] This is a very simple shot of one of the thangkas of Milarepa. And one of the shot that I have made myself. And trying to bring out the richness of the gold, and related with the sense of austerity that the thangka trying to present. Is that Milarepa sitting here, and trying to cook his nettle soup, and in his cave. And although they're nice flowers growing around, and in the greenery and everything, but the basic idea that you're supposed to present a sense of poverty, and sense of austerity in the practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is a very simple shot of one of the thangkas of Milarepa. And one of the shot that I have made myself. And trying to bring out the richness of the gold, and related with the sense of austerity that the thangka trying to present. Is that Milarepa sitting here, and trying to cook his nettle soup, and in his cave. And although they're nice flowers growing around, and in the greenery and everything, but the basic idea that you're supposed to present a sense of poverty, and sense of austerity in the practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1437.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow the question of the whole thing is not so much of what it means, but how visually it can be rich. That representing a very simple situation. This particular shot is maybe one-twentieth-- twenty-fifth of that particular thangka that's been taken with a closeup lens. It's very, very minute shot, it’s close-up lens shot. And the interesting thing is that the gold colors, and the fire going there, came out quite clear. And there seem to be some problem here, as far as the artist is concerned, that he is unable to work out what he is going to put here, and he just decide to put a tree, which is quite undefined and quite wooly. And that seem to be some kind of problem there, which is a question of inspiration I suppose; maybe that marks that this painter of this particular thangka is not practitioner, quite as good as we would like to believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1515.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole question is that there is overcrowded-ness of all kinds of things. That every corner has been filled, with all kinds of ideas and concept and perceptions of all kinds. And at the same time it is extraordinarily traditional, as far as the Tibetan's point of view of a work of art is concerned, that this is actually a masterpiece. But nevertheless there is some feeling in itself that this particular painter wasn't practitioner. You could see always that way. You can see that through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1591.0,1635.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time the overcrowdedness of whole thing, which makes the-- this particular thangka is very extraordinarily spacious; that we have things happening all over, that there is no areas left unattended. That's another way of looking at the whole world. That when you fill the space -- \"great\"! And then you begin to put little... full-stop, little comma, which is-- this is a little comma there's here. And that makes a lot of sense, that then you begin to form the sentences, and you begin to-- whole thing begin to make sense, in terms of visual perspective is concerned; that this area is the full stop as well as the comma. And this is a quotation mark. And an exclamation mark. And this is seem to be the everything that exist here. That it's-- it has a lot of humor in it, not-- though the artist didn't intend it to have humor, particularly, in this situation. But somehow it turn out to be that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1635.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also I think it's connected with that how myself actually framed this particular picture, this particular shot, according to what I view as the expressing the central figure, properly. So that there is some sense of a genuine presentation of the whole thing: that if you have a shot of this purely square like that, it doesn't make much sense. If you have just shot of the top part, and without the bottom part, and just purely top part, doesn't make any sense; doesn't have enough closeup-ness. That this little flower here makes much more sense, and leaves and things happening around here. And somewhat uncertain that somebody's dying here. Also is kind of unsolved problem of visual art. That nobody knows what's happening behind this. [Pointing at the prone body]  [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1710.0,1780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the interesting point of this particular is that when you begin to see things overcrowded emotionally, psychologically, and visually, that *does* create a lot of space at the same time. As long as there's some kind of reference point, or some kind of purpose, some kind of motivation. You know, which is actually based on cooking this food here, which is supposed to be nettle soup, soup made out of nettle. And obviously Milarepa never cooked his food in a solid gold pot. But that is just purely the adoration that is be put out by the devotees. But however that he's naked and looks very thin, and looks pretty contented but at the same time poverty-stricken, at this point of view. And the fire is not burning all that well, and there's some kind of apologetic flame is taking place here, which is a interesting point. And his feet is just perching there -- he is just perching and trying to cook. And that, doesn't look that he has any way to get out of or whether he's stuck there, somewhat. If he goes down this way, this route, he's going to see this particular person [laughter], who is having a problem here as well. [Laughter] So that he has no chance to see any real *world*, of pleasure and beauty and celebration. But nevertheless that up *here*, there's such a majestic rock, beautifully manufactured by the artist, and a fantastic perspective, and *all* the things are worked with such glory and such beautiful work, and painted in gold leaf, and gold paint, which makes interesting point to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1780.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be interesting perspective when we study iconography. It's not so much of that we are trying to understand the story of Milarepa as a-- that goes on for three or four or five sequence. But when we trying to understand the iconography in general, that we trying to understand the *humor* in it, and the problems in it, at the same time the psychological implication that is completely connected with the teachings. That seem to be inseparable.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou might take a look at again.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, could we change to the next slides?\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1898.0,1963.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 2: Photo of Dried grass and rusted beams]\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat you think is that? Do you have any idea about what that is? Let's compare the two; can you flip back? First. Back. First. Back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=1963.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is one of my shots I take in Charlemont, which is in New England, Massachusetts. I had a three months retreat and this is my-- one of the days that I had an outing, photographic session. And it's interestingly, coincide with that overcrowdedness of the whole thing. And there was a large development project was taking place, somewhere or other. And this is part of the-- some kind of truck, or some kind of machine-operating unit, that has got-- that been sitting there for a long time, and begin to get slightly rusted. They still trying to oil it, and trying to make it into more functional. And this is the interesting point, it's not ideal visual beauty, as far as is concerned; the whole thing is extremely insulting in some sense. That it's kind of present the-- particularly from the minds of ecologists, it's just raping the land. And you can see little blue skies through that, and this is-- it's not as bad as it's been shot actually; it's just small machine, it's just size of a big truck. But when you begin to look at the closeup, it's fantastic, extraordinarily appreciating situation. That the grasses grown here, were getting very dry because there was not much-- the rain is coming, and these little machines begin to creak up and begin to get rusted and all kinds of things taking place. And then there's the overall, mutual thing that goes on here, is these nettings that exist. You know, some kind of protection, and some kind of prevention of something else coming into the system, but still the system is already be fucked up in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2047.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I particularly like the ruggedness aspect of it. And I still regard this particular situation *here*, is actually part of iconography and from that point of view. And by the way this photograph's not taken with any kind of complaint to the American society, or American rape of the land, or an American ecologist crying. But this photograph simply taken with a sense of *humor*. And this was not supposed to be a symbol of a protest particularly, which a lot of people might view it; people who would like to have a big trip going, on that particular area. But this is just very simple and very visually extraordinarily beautiful observation as far as I'm concerned; you might disagree, but it's-- whole thing fascinates me a lot. And I spent about fifteen minutes in actually focusing on this, sitting down, getting out of my car, and trying to find out the best spot to take this particular shot. Unfortunately, a lot of the other shots lost; there are better one and more precise ones than these. But however this is best we could come up with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2191.0,2273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interesting point is that the -- can you switch back to the other one? Previous one.\r\n\r\n\r\n[SLIDE 1: Thangka Detail of Milarepa in the Cave]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2273.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it seem to be we are doing the same thing here, from that point of view. Is that there is a sense of overcrowdedness, but in this case it's very gentle and unobtrusive. There's no complaints involved. Everything's flowery, and fantastic, self-contained -- apart from this area that we have no idea even what's happening there. And in this area could be questionable here, uncertain, particularly, that whether this is actually sky or something else, or some gray areas, there are lots of trees taking place here. And on the whole, that it's very safe kind of trip, safe game. And there's no-- seem to be no problems involved anywhere, at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2283.0,2343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you flip back to the other one? Whoops! Come on! [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[SLIDE 2: Photo of dried grass and rusted beams]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2343.0,2358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this area is... has no cultural root. Theme of this photograph doesn't have any cultural root. Only American twentieth century culture root. There's no heritage, no tradition, no meditative tradition. It's the least-- nothing meditative about this whole thing. But very interesting point is that, once you have this *whole thing* is viewed as visual beauty, as it is-- stands. Although it's not beautiful primary colors that painted but anyway, but somehow, it is worth loving. Worth developing some kind of compassion, some kind of gentleness at the same time. And that's I thought was very, very important point actually. The theme of this particular description of iconography is concerned, is the idea of non-aggression. And you might say this is the typical example of aggression, somewhat. You could say that, it's true. As far as the structures concerned it's very aggressive structure. Everything goes on in its own way, and not admitting any little suggestions. Things already pre-constructed, except the grasses. But nevertheless that this could be a very interesting point of gentleness. Things as they are. In the way *human* sense, that human beings have to construct this situation as much as that such human beings have to painted that particular thangka that we have seen already, in the previous slides.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2358.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, both cases it's functional, as well as unavoidable. So why do we make a complain? So, the point is that whole thing is that when we begin to complain, then we begin to find ourselves in very awkward situations: that we don't want to *complain* to anybody's bad work of art. That we would like to gain vision out of that. But we do would like to-- we would like to complain. On the other hand if artist has bad taste and bad sense of perception, obviously then artist trying ego trip on his own or her own particular world. That should be cut through. But scenery like this is-- there's no trips involved, it's just natural beauty and natural sloppish-ness [sic: sloppiness], and natural chaos; that nobody knows where these things are going, and what was collections are, what this things are -- some kind of supportive thing -- and these inflections. We have no idea, sitting middle of New England countryside, which was fantastically beautiful place. And suddenly we find these monumental pieces in middle of New England.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2475.0,2552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next one? \r\n\r\n\r\n[SLIDE 3: Photo of tree branches against sky]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2552.0,2557.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This one's also in Charlemont. In New England actually. But interesting point about this is nothing particularly interesting. [Laughter] And these dots are just defects on the film, near the slides. Nothing historical landmark. It's some kind of attempt to present space that-- which is opposite of that the shot you-- we saw already. And there's some kind of understanding between the two: that when you fill the frame completely with the space, completely with the objects, and when you fill the frame with completely with the space, with the some kind of suggestion of shaping the space. You could take a look at these trees as cracks in the sky. Like cracks in the glasses. Just cracks that taking place in the sky. Not necessarily a tree, but it would change perspective view, that when we see the stars and the moons, you might think that is holes in the sky, that light shining behind it. The stars are just little punctuations, little holes that had been made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2557.0,2657.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular shot is not famous for any particular reason. It's kind of a pseudo- Japanese-y. [Laughter] But at the same time it does make some kind of sense. That the reality of the space that goes around, and also the sense of the lines that going up, and then where to stop. That one of the traditional theories that I have developed myself, in terms of ideas of space, spacing in the situation, is there is a basic circle that takes place in the middle of the screen... middle of the screen. And any kind of extra spill you might spill out, is a further endornment. So, the reason is that there would be some kind of expression of your desires, what you need to express, can be obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2657.0,2771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you understand what I'm saying? Anybody? Could they have a microphone? So they can ask their questions? Okay. We could keep that on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2771.0,2794.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [Calling out] Why would you look at that as being a crack in the sky as [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shhhh!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shhh.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Why would you look at that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --look at that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --why would you look at that as being a crack in the sky as opposed to being an object filling a hole that's already there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's up to your imagination. That's interesting change of shift that could take place. That the space that exist around you could be solid, and you are the only hollow person, in the middle of the space. That change all kinds of perspectives, and that is very interesting point. Maybe you should think about that, first quite a lot. And we should talk later on. The interesting point there is that, think, visualize right now: The grass is grown in the meadows, trees that up in the meadows, and hills, mountains are *hollow*. The space is solid. Does that make any sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It doesn't make sense as being a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where are you? I can't see you. Ah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It doesn't make sense as being a complete entity as a statement but it makes sense as being a part--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2794.0,2893.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a phenomenological question. Rather than a statement of fact particularly. But, it's interesting: why should we regard ourselves as \"things\", rather than \"thinglessness\" ourselves -- you know, hollowness, non-existence. Why we should give a right to the space to have their own place, of non-existence? We could manipulate them. We could fuck with them. [Laughs] Space is solid, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Like you say, \"from that point of view.\" But one can always take another point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, you can take all kinds of point of view. What's another point of view? That you have a solid tree and a solid you? Solid wires going across. Yeah? [SPEAKER2 laughs] Would you say that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Only for the purpose of discussion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's becomes slightly bullshitting  [SPEAKER2 laughs] at this point, and we should be discussing more seriously from that point--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Sure, you've made-- you know, you've explained your point clearly enough that I understand it now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You have explained your point clearly enough so I understand it now. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I have or I haven't?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You *have*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh thank you very much! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm glad you understood me. So, we are communicating through very solid space. [Laughter] Both of us hollow. With the help of the wire that goes through the \"this and that.\" Which is a little tunnel. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2893.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, do you have any questions about our endeavor, here? Yes, please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wait a minute. You should have your microphone.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I didn't understand the relation of the circle in the center of the rectangle to our desires.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Circle and rectangular? What's the problem? [Laughter[\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: My not understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh I see, it's as simple as that. [Laughter] Well, can you see what we're doing here, from there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3021.0,3091.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the idea is that, in terms of framing photographs -- I'm getting very pragmatic in here, technical somewhat -- according to the principal that exist in the Buddhist aesthetics, that you leave open space which is not square but round, as the center of the activity that exist. It could be oblong, or square, or rectangular, whatever. That the central activity takes place in the middle of it. And that seem to have captured some kind of sense of aesthetic appreciation. We are purely talking about, this point, in photography or painting actually. And also you actually you can use it with daily living situations. That where the actually center of focus takes place; if you're going to buy a hamburg-- hamburger, or if you're going to buy Coca-Cola, or if you're going to sign your checks, and you're going to talk to somebody about business, if you're going to buy airline tickets, there's some circle of central area's taking place. Which is a basic energy circle that exist. And the rest of it seem to be fringe. But one can't reject that particular situation. But one has to hold on to the how much area of your concentration is covered. Your awareness is covered, basically. That's what we're talking about. Do you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: By changing...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to change anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: By changing our desires or the way we understand our desires--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's not desire--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --we change the space that's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3091.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to change anything. It's just a reference point in which you begin to see that there is a  -- [describes circle with arm] -- circular movement is taking place. There is in other word \"beam\", which is shaped in the round world. The world is not all that is square as we expected. But the world is round; there is a particular span of attention that you can project yourself to the world, and that particular focus is visually, perceptually important point to work with. And beyond that is subsidiary, which is not a main point. If you are negotiating with somebody who is important business deal, sitting behind the desk, if you are sitting on the chair with him, that his role is around the desk, and with him around it, so that concentration of energy is circulated there. That's close as I can come up. And that’s the very important visual perception, which goes with *beyond* purely visual conception. It's real experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3208.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The aesthetic experience, the aesthetic appreciation that you mention, is that connected with a feeling of love, somehow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think some kind of sympathetic communication, definitely. Without that you can't do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And at the same time it's also connected with pain, and they co-exist, strangely enough?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well said.  [SPEAKER4 laughs] Well said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3288.0,3344.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Somehow it seems that if you can stop seeing the world as a square, you still sort of see it as a circle that isn't panoramic? It's hard to get--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the important point about the panorama is that if you begin to see circle to begin with, then you begin to see more panoramic. But we don't have to bother with the corners. Yeah, that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But they're still back around here--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: They're still--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, everywhere. It's a bubble. More than bubble.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we have to talk so much about the whole thing is-- trouble is we don't much time to discuss [laughing] all these things. And that's really frustrating actually. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3344.0,3395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But however let's go back to [laughing] the next one?\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd can you switch the lights? Maybe these people could have more look at this thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3395.0,3407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 3: Photo of tree branches against sky]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3407.0,3412.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a circular perception that takes place around the center like that. And most of my photographs have been taken on the rectangular level.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Aside] It's rectangular, what you call it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3412.0,3442.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is not particularly extraordinary shot, but it's good intention; extremely good intention. [Laughter] It's actually-- I was thinking about my students, how could I show you some kind of a basic reference point of-- in terms of understanding the sense of perspectives: that allowing lots of room at the bottom, and allowing little room in the top, and also there's something's coming up...\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, could we change it to the next one please?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3442.0,3484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 4: Photo of explosives sign against background greenery]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3484.0,3494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is taken in the same kind of a shot, of that particular development process-- program that is taking place in Vermont land. And the warning \"explosives\" on the-- behind the truck. And that behind there is greenery -- that's this round. Which also demonstrate some sense of a message, at the same time some kind of carefree. And maybe this whole thing could be explosive; with the trees and the greenery and the mountains, everything could be explosive. As well as itself. And that's kind of-- there is a basis of solidness taking place here, this area. And then from there, lots of space; it's the same as the thing that we had before.\r\n\r\n\r\nCan you switch it back? To the other one?\r\n\r\n\r\n________________","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3494.0,3555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 3: Photo of tree branches against sky]\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich is the same thing in the some sense. Explosives taking place here. And then the rest of it space. Switch back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3555.0,3574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 4: Photo of explosives sign against background greenery]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also there are a lot of humor goes with this particular thing; it's not particularly solid and steady, and humorless. But seeing explosives in the midst of Vermont countryside is very interesting point.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay. Turn on the lights? You can keep that on. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAny questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3574.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah. I still don't understand what you mean by the circle in the middle? [Laughs] I hate to tell you that. [Laughs] What does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't understand what you're talking about, the circle in the middle. I still don't understand--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3630.0,3644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's question of that there is some kind of area of concentration, and some area of-- beyond the level of concentration of particular mentality. So when you look at somebody, something, that you create circular vision; usually you do that. Always. There are a lot of areas that are fuzzy, outside of that. That's a natural phenomena, that if you look at somebody, if you read a book, if you read sentences, but there's always circular moment. Which is a very natural thing, rather than have a square, or straight, whatever. So reason why our eyes are shaped-- eyeballs shaped round, that it creates a lot of circular moment. That's connected with the actually painting of scrolls and thangkas, or painting of calligraphy, that it's connected with that. That your attention is paid on a certain area. That you don't just fool around with little corners and trying to fill out the whole thing, which become tourist piece.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Then do you mean that it's just sort of like getting the point across without any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you mean then-- are you bringing up this because, then it's just like getting the point across--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In that circle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And what? [Questioner laughs] Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well you were talking about, there's no other little stuff all around, there's just the-- that like the calligraphy in the middle, and that's just like-- just basically--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it doesn't have to be in the middle, you could offs-- you can have set in the off-center.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Then it's like [INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3644.0,3756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there is that awareness area in the middle of it. Some kind of awareness area. You know, we're talking about this one, for instance. That awareness area is actually happens here. \r\n\r\n\r\n[Points to SLIDE 3: Tree branches against sky] \r\n\r\n\r\nAnd this one was just outside of the whole thing. Maybe people might think this is a big gimmick, and should be around here, but this is just a \"by the way\" point. And the awareness area is taking place around here. Circular taking place here. And this is just a footnote, which happens to be complete the picture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So the-- so that you get the feeling from it, you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3756.0,3808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, I think the idea of there's two considerations: presenting art as a gimmick, or presenting art as a work of art, according to the two fashion, dharmic art. That if you present work of art as dharmic art, then there is no room for gimmicks, of little things. Had to be very honest and genuine. That basically whole thing is based on cutting through spiritual materialism. [Smiles] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Whispering, aside] Sure. Now switch off your machine. If you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3808.0,3869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any more questions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, in the--\r\n\r\n\r\n[aside] into it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In the painting -- no, the photograph, with the grass and the machinery, you mentioned that \"this is not a meditative piece,\" or display or whatever. I was wondering what you meant by that? Like what *is*, what would be meditative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I meant to say \"premeditated.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. That helps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3869.0,3926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? In the back? One in the back? No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes, back here. Hello.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where are you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I'm back here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hi \"back.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How are you? What does all this have to do with the topic discussion of reality? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Phew! Well, this *is* reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Are you taking one representative viewpoint, of these particular objects which are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no, I'm talking about the universal point of view. How reality could be seen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Are you saying then that the picture which you present could be taken as in total a universal point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. [Questioning gesture with hand] So what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Right. So somebody-- anybody could say that that picture is something and thusly you can say that that *too* is universal point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That you could say-- that anyone in particular could make a commentary on any one of those particular pictures, and thusly come to the conclusion that that *too* could be -- or *would* be -- a universal point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=3926.0,4030.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. That I have certain ideas about reality, which I think it's real. [Laughter] And I have chosen those photographs to show you, representing the nature of reality, and I have done so, and there you are. And nobody can duplicate that, no-- nobody can ego-trip on that. Because they are simply my pictures, my paint-- my slide shots. And if anybody comes up with a similar kind of awareness, obviously they could be included; doesn't have to be purely mine alone. But it's very clean-cut from that point of view. There some humor is involved, and some kind of precisions and clean-cut that's involved, at the same time. That's what's count. There's no problem. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: There is no what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There *is* logic, sure. What's-- what kind of holes you find in this particular logic? Or did you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, in particular, in the first print that was shown there, of \"Milarapa\" [mispronounces], I don't know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --I do not-- I'm not familiar with the character, at all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And you were saying that the complete cave, the dwelling he had was totally austere. But yet the golden rock that was above the cave had branches that came down into the cave. And yet the possibility of the relati-- not relative, what's the correct word -- with the golden pot, that it could be representative of the fullness which that particular person had, without having actually a golden pot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be okay. So what's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: There is none.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! Anything that we might add there, a little pinch of sense of humor into the whole thing. A little soy sauce of sense of humor. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4030.0,4173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, would you say that a sense of appreciation, or a sense of humor, comes from some sort of perception of transparency or impermanence, or some sort of a magic quality, rather than solidity or sharpness, although those would be included?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. I'm not so sure what you're driving me at. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Nothing really, just confirmation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as it's simple question, it's okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would this be connected with-- would the impermanence and transparency be connected with \"empty heart\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Empty heart, yeah sure. That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4173.0,4240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: A few weeks ago you made a comment about the fourth Castaneda book, and you said that it disturbed you because somehow it approached reality as not being ordinary, or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I wondered if it might be appropriate to say something about that, in this context?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know whether this is particular context but as far as the book is concerned, the last book, quite disappointing. And one wonders, is there such a thing as American tantra? And there's really puts things into different perspective altogether. It's quite a shocking actually. There are a lot of games involved with that and a lot of gimmicks involved with that. It's very confusing -- for the very fact there's no unifying possibilities involved, with the whole thing. It seem to be purely direction in the \"one mind\" level; it's like a housewife trying to needle-- trying to thread go through a needle. And trying to catch some kind of fascinations of certain audience, which is a lot of foreigners are very expert on that. Trying to catch the Americans into the foreignness quality of it. And I had a lot of disappointment on the whole thing. I had a great expectations, beginning it was a great celebration, and the book came out and there seem to be a lot of truth in those. But then something is gone wrong, somewhere. Which is absolutely *sad*, depressing, worth crying. [ [Smiles; laughter] Here you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4240.0,4355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Topless gentleman there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: We've been looking at this artwork of-- well the painting and then your artwork of the photographs, talking about nature. Do you think there is an artist, a great artist behind nature itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Way artist what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you think there is a great artist, behind nature itself, and its manifestations and its forms?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very difficult. I don't think there such a thing that's transcending technology, which is difficult.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No, I'm not talking about technology, I'm talking about a spirit behind nature, that creates artistic forms, beautiful forms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4355.0,4422.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean. But still you rely on technology, of some kind, and that's very hard. I usually be very suspicious of somebody saying, \"They're doing everything the natural thing; it's nature.\" But how much is nature, how much is a part of the ecology, or calculated logic? Nobody can do just art of their own hands, without getting into the basic traditions of culture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I don't think this has anything to do with my question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Your answer doesn't have anything to do with my question, or maybe I didn't really explain my question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think I do, I think I do. But maybe you ask more. What you trying to say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4422.0,4469.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Well, you see, beauty created by people, and you're-- for instance the first painting, and you're talking about the beautiful mountain that the painter of the painting has painted. But the beau-- the mountain itself has beauty before the painter decided to represent it, on painting-- on a canvas. Is there-- and also a larger creator to the beauty of the mountain, just as there is a creator to the painting, to the beauty of the painting that represents the mountain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Questioner makes exasperated sounds; laughter] Mountain's already beautiful. The painter doesn't have to make glamorous. If painter try to do it it would be very cheap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, he's just duplicating the art-- the beauty that's already there, it's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That's a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Thank you for your answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're always welcome, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4469.0,4528.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39630/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe friends, ladies and gentlemen, we should close down, unless there is any kind of last minute announcement of any kind that's needed. Otherwise, it's over, so you might stay and listen to this announcement. That would be nice.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: There'll be a special poetry reading this Saturday night. The poets will be Anne Waldman, of The Kerouac School of Poetics, myself Allen Ginsberg, and Rinpoche Chogyam Trungpa. 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Would you say that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2953.61,2962.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39631/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Only for the purpose\nof discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=2962.9,2965.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39631/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, I think that's 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So somebody--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4003.23,4004.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39631/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anybody could say\nthat that picture is something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209#t=4004.86,4007.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76121/file/164209/transcript/39631/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and thusly you can say\nthat 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