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From ego's point of view, we apply all sorts of categories and concepts to emotions, solidifying them, creating \"dualistic barrier\" between us and the world. Introduces Mahayana idea of \"shunyata\", emptiness, true nature of reality beyond confused emotional states. Meditation introduces us to transparency of emotions, thoughts. Stresses importance of not evaluating, trying to suppress or release emotions, but letting them be there, and then they transmute into energy. In Q\u0026amp;A, intelligent questions about fine points of working with emotions, and the nature of change; opens up further insights and clarification.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 4: Working with the Emotions: The Dualistic Barrier\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 10 2024 to Oct 09 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA substantive talk about the nature of emotions, how and why they arise, and how we can work with them to transform our relationship to them. From ego's point of view, we apply all sorts of categories and concepts to emotions, solidifying them, creating \"dualistic barrier\" between us and the world. Introduces Mahayana idea of \"shunyata\", emptiness, true nature of reality beyond confused emotional states. Meditation introduces us to transparency of emotions, thoughts. Stresses importance of not evaluating, trying to suppress or release emotions, but letting them be there, and then they transmute into energy. In Q\u0026amp;A, intelligent questions about fine points of working with emotions, and the nature of change; opens up further insights and clarification.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Battle of Ego Three, given in Los Angeles, California. This is Talk Three, \"Dealing with Emotions\" given on May 30th, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made May 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=0.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we could continue the process of dealing with the ego, and working with ego, in terms of meditation practice. That as we gone through yesterday, the stages of evolutionary process of ego ends with consciousness. Consciousness of, in this case, in terms of thought process and emotions. And it seems that starting point of meditation on simplicity, or seeing the simplicity aspect, is a way of working with discursive thought process. But still that there are very strong emotions, which becomes extremely difficult and quite challenging to work with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=31.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well in the case of working with emotions are not only dealing with consciousness alone, but it is also dealing with concept, intellect. Emotions consist of energy, like water and dualistic thought process, like paint. And when they are mixed together then there will be vivid colors of emotions developed. That duality, dualistic notion of the emotions are, we could say, is kind of concept. Notion of concept in a sense of labeling them, giving them particular locations, relationships, and climate of temperature. Which makes emotions are vivid and strong. And fundamentally, the reason why as we discussed yesterday the emotions are being discomforting or painful, frustrating, is because that relationship to emotions are not quite clear, not absolutely clear. There's always conflict of losing one's central command, of basic ego, and working with its projections always; the relationship's always ambivalent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=181.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's where the notion of Mahayana Buddhism comes in, dealing with concept. That there is a particular teaching called \"shunyata\" or emptiness. And this shunyata, or notion of emptiness, is could be said that of absent, notion of absent. Notion of absent in a sense of a absence of conflict. Because if a person is actually able to relate fully and thoroughly with the emotions completely, then emotions cease to become external problem. And one will be able to make very close contact with the emotions, and the wall between you and emotions, or you and projections of world outside becomes transparent. So question of removing the dualistic barrier is the basic notion of shunyata, or absence of concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=368.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that we don't see things as they are, completely. We generally perceive something, then we look. And looking this case is we impose names and associations onto them. We perceive and we don't let see, but we just look. And by seeing things means acceptance of they are, but by looking means unnecessary effort, to make sure they're things as they are and safe. And nothing is going to confuse you, your relationship to that thing. And only security that we could impose on that is putting them into categories of something: naming them, and also analyzing them, that what particular, in terms of relativity, interdependent situation where these things are-- that these things fit into. Which makes us temporarily happier and comforting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=467.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow this kind of a very crude way of finding landmarks, in terms of one's projections, become very child-like quality, and one had to repeat the same game again and again. There's no process of dealing with projections as exciting situations, at all; world is not being seen as mirage or illusion, but world is being seen absolutely solid and stuffy. Everything's frozen, movement, frozen space, solidified. And generally we can-- we tend to see the world as kind of had extremely hard facade, metallic quality, or plastic quality for that matter. We see the colors as they are, but somehow they are plastic colors rather than rainbow colors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=585.0,675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of basic solid, and conscious of solid notion, is the dualistic wall that we be talking about, the barrier. But that doesn't mean to say that a person shouldn't feel the texture of a stone for instance or brick as solid, or as transparent. Somehow the physical situation of solidness has no relationship with the psychological solid attitude. It's mental implication of solidness, harshness, metallic quality. Actually it seems to be extremely interesting: that everything we perceive we see entirely in terms of our version, completely our version. So it's very much individualized, centralized on self-consciousness. The idea of shunyata in this case is perceiving them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=675.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And now, if we talk in terms of practice of meditation on this subject, it is impossible to just immediately start on shunyata. Impossible. One have to start with the simple practice at the beginning. Take away the prejudiced and conflict. And *then*, after that, when you begin to see the transparent quality of thoughts and emotions, then you're also trying to step beyond the relation situation of transparent and you perceiving transparent quality, which is a fundamental panoramic awareness. Which comes naturally through developing awareness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=778.0,845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, thought process and emotions are transparent, and they are taking place in the middle of nowhere, in space. And that spacious quality, where everything's operated and happens in the space, is the positive space of skillful means of working with everyday life situation. In fact, the creativity of seeing positive aspect of emotions and the life situation can be only seen through the experiencing the space, rather than the things. It is dealing with origin, rather than the product. If a person's relationship in the case of meditation experience of spaciousness has developed properly, perceived properly, then there's no hesitation at all. And dealing with the emotions also operates in space it seems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=845.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's another aspect of emotions which I would like to discuss, is that when we're dealing with emotions we talk in terms of purifying them and transcending them. And also there's possibility of suppressing. And also another alternative is of course practicing them, going along with them; if you're angry, if you feel like killing someone, just go ahead and do it. And it seems that if one is suppressing emotions, that's also extremely dangerous. In a sense that, to start with that we are regarding the emotions as something terrible, shameful. Which also means that your relationship to emotions are not really open one, and we trying to suppress them. Which reinforces again and again: once you try to suppress them, sooner or later they're going to step out and explode.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=939.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there seems to be next stage. If you don't suppress them, then you really come out and carried away with that -- emotions. And there again, it's kind of a panic, that relationship of emotions not reconciled properly, and it's another way of escaping from the actual emotions. It's another kind of release, false release. Some kind of confusion, of mind and matter. That the physical act of practicing emotions, putting the effect of emotions, supposedly cure emotions, the irritations. But it seems that generally it reinforces again and again; it becomes-- emotions become more powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1038.0,1124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So somehow the relationship with emotions and basic consciousness, mind, not quite clear in this case. So the intelligent way of working with emotions it seems, is that trying to find, trying to relate with the basic substance of emotions. In other word, almost the abstract quality of the emotions. The basic \"is-ness\" quality of emotions, the basic nature. The fundamental nature. And the fundamental nature of emotions are just pure collection of energy. And if one is able to relate with the energy, then energies have no conflict with you; that they become natural process. So trying to suppress or trying to practice, getting carried away, are both of them seems to become irrelevant once person is completely, properly, attached with emotions; able to see the basic characteristic of emotions as it is, able to perceive them as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1124.0,1249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is the same as what we been talking about shunyata principle: that barrier, the wall between you and your projections being removed. In other word the hysterical, and paranoid element to your projections been removed. Not removed exactly but seeing through them. Therefore there's no panic involved. When there's no panic involved with working with emotions, then you will deal completely, properly, as it is. It's like somebody who is completely skilled in his profession, doesn't panic but just does things, completely and thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1249.0,1314.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe we need some more discussions on this subject. It seems that this particular subject of dealing with emotions are-- or dealing with one's version of world seems to be-- is very important point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1314.0,1348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that is now, getting back to the pattern of ego, is that dealing with consciousness of the last development of ego, and also we just touched on the fringe of concept. Which is the next stage, the fourth stage of ego's expansion. And when we talk of dealing with them it isn't-- we shouldn't misunderstand, that it is not question of eliminating them completely, but seeing them and transmuting their qualities into a transcendental quality, so to speak. But still using the energies of thought patterns and energies of emotions and energies of concept; whatever energies there may be being used, in order to further the process of transmutation. Which is important to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1348.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That generally when the idea of ego is presented that immediate reaction is sort of villain, enemy that you have to destroy this ego, this \"me\". Masochistic kind of a suicidal process. People tend to think that way. Because generally of course, whenever we talk about spirituality, one always tend to think that \"we are fighting the bad, we are good. Spirituality is ultimate good -- epitome of good. And the other side is bad.\" And such notion is always of course natural thing one develops. But in this case, as we discussed already yesterday, that it is not that of a battle; it's nonviolence, ultimate nonviolence practice. That we are not making any particular aspect ourselves as bad or villain, or enemy. That we're trying to use everything as part of the natural process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1415.0,1498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As soon as there's a notion of polarity, of good and bad develop, then the spiritual practice becomes another style of materialism, which is called spiritual materialism. And it seems also it is connected with a working in order to achieve happiness, in simple-minded sense. On the way to egohood. So therefore, all this way of removing dualistic wall, whatever is being talk about, it is not referred as something we have to destroy or eliminate, or exorcise. But in fact we are able to see the more possible way of creative process, able to see-- having seen them as things-- emotions as things as they are, that we have more material to work on. Which makes the whole idea quite clear, that notion of samsara is dependent on the notion of nirvana, and the notion of nirvana is dependent on notion of samsara; they're interdependent. If there was no confusion, there wouldn't be wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussion now perhaps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1498.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So if you eliminate the idea of \"good\" and \"bad\", then how could you bring about change?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it isn't exactly change. But it's a growing process, evolutionary process, rather than change. It seems that a notion of \"good\" and \"bad\" provokes, or, in other word, it prevents the idea of change, idea of-- I mean evolutionary process. Because either you have to kill it or you have to preserve it. There's no room for evolutionary process at all. That seems to one of the very important point in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1636.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is that what you mean, Rinpoche, that something simply got started in your life, in your field, in the [INAUDIBLE] your manure, is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's not be proud or not be ashamed of but just work with it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Organically.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1706.0,1729.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How important is it to rule out negative feelings, you know, emotions which are violent, in order to attain these states? Or does-- is that important at all? Can one attain buddhahood and still have very violent, say, emotions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean \"rule out\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, I don't know, rule out the-- you know there are many techniques which say one should try not to have violent feelings, or if one has them to view things such that one doesn't have them anymore. Slowly but surely they're ruled out or fade away, so that violent emotional reactions to say a certain phenomena would, let's say, I don't know, I'm thinking of phenomenon--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well it seems that when we talk of violence, that we are putting a lot of things together. The physical violence, and psychological violence. The violence in the sense of sort of ultimate aggression, speed. Could be seen in a physical situation or mental situation. It seems that physical situation of violence becomes irrelevant, when a person is able to see the psychological quality of the violence. Or passion for that matter, it's the same thing; any kind of emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you mean desire for violence, even in a psychological realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Or passion for it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the just-- in case of violence, just basic aggression. Basic aggression becomes energy. It *is* energy in fact. And this energy becomes problematic to us, because we don't know our relationship to that energy and us. Which set chain reaction of violence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1729.0,1896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That's what I want to know. Once you get down to the acceptance of energies, and you said you may-- you may not-- you may or you may not be in tune with it, then you have the battle all over again. Which is you're in tune with energy that may accomplish it, if you're not in tune with it, it may throw you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think once you have the proper relationship with energy, or actual oneness with whatever ii's may be, then there's no conflict at all. Doesn't seem to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Seems to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well you see point is that it's very simple in fact in a certain way, that conflict between you and your projections, and the projection is trying to take you over. Idea of anger or violence is in-- is especially come about, in order to rouse *you*. Whereas if you become completely clear with that of energy, violence, then violence has no one to rouse off. So killing somebody is irrelevant, or suppressing is irrelevant. It's just a bundle of energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It’s a tricky point. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems to be more tricky if you try to fight with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1896.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But it seems then that the most you can do when you're, say feeling a strong emotion is to say-- or to somehow say, \"I'm feeling a strong emotion,\" and then just try and see it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well trying to feel the sort of basic abstract quality of the emotions, rather than analyze yourself or tell yourself that you are being fool, or anything wouldn't help. But trying to fee-- trying to really get to contact with the basic abstract quality. Because generally in emotions rises, one tend to become blind, completely stupid. And because of that then panic begin to happen; one have to do something, one tend to do it. So the whole point is just trying to work or trying to see beyond that stupidity.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell it is I mean same as any practice of meditation. That you try to identify with the technique, and finally technique falls away and you don't have to use technique anymore. And same as emotions. That if a person is able to really feel the basic quality, sort of living quality of emotions, then it becomes-- there's no conflict at all. So whole thing becomes very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In other words, once you know your emotions, really know 'em, then you won't react anymore when you feel. They won't be strange.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You just recognize it as a-- as what is and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --then it's gone rather--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --than reaction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. In the Buddhist scriptures often analogy of use body and limbs. The limbs being emotions, the body is being the sort of basic consciousness. And if there's no conflict between your limbs and body, then it becomes a natural thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1985.0,2140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Essentially, physiologically most emotion is thought the same way; it’s your interpretation of what you're feeling that then causes the-- it doesn't really matter if you're angry or afraid or in love or whatever; basically everyone [INAUDIBLE] and so forth and so forth. But you interpret it according to the situation. And don't you sometimes find that your interpretation has been all wrong, and somebody didn't mean this and so forth? So that the quality then basically is one thought, which is what you've been saying, and is therefore empty. So.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well that's the whole point. You see, trying to analyze your emotions, and seeing that you've been fool, and should be ashamed of yourself, therefore next time should be better -- that somehow doesn't help. Because there's always all sorts of argument that you could also supply as well. So therefore, analyzing doesn't help, doesn't seem to help, but question is see the *basic* quality of them. Which are all emotions are same thing; whether it's hatred or passion or whatever it's may be, all same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2140.0,2214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In other words if you feel great frustration, and you can catch yourself for an instant, just try to tune in with pure frustration, that there's a way of getting through to some other side with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, whole point-- question is that it's not so much of trying to eliminate the projections, but it is more of trying to decentralize the perceiver. You can't fight with the energies of your projections.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, I'm not saying fight them, I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --saying like if you feel frustration go to it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, go to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --tune into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tune into it. So then that the audience begin to become the actor, so to speak, so nobody-- there will be no audience anymore. So actors may not have to perform at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So the frustration at that point doesn't have to be mad at itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, frustration in terms of conflict, doesn't apply anymore. There's no one to be conflict of, because you become completely tune into it, part of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2214.0,2295.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If you're not attached to a result you can't be magnetized-- I mean you can't be frustrated if you're not attached to a result. If you don't want something, you can't be frustrated about it, can you? If you’re not clinging--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah. Well same thing as fear, as well. The object of fear is to frighten *you*. So if you become one with the fear then there's no one to be frightened of. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2295.0,2328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems that it's hard to study an emotion. As I sit here, I see that I don't have very many emotions, because I'm fairly quiet. And I start to talk, and I see some fear, of talking. And so, then there's an emotion, now there's an emotion to look at. But most of the time when I do quiet work, sitting, effort at meditation, either I'm completely taken over and I'm not it doing at all, I'm thinking about something that happened yesterday, or will happen today. Or I'm quiet and there aren't any emotions, and it's-- There aren't too many times when there's an emotion that's physical, in that kind of situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well often many cases the emotions are-- I mean there's no really such great deal of differences between emotions and thought process, in some ways. And they all seem to be same thing, that more dramatic aspect of thought process are emotions, but the rest of them also contains likeness and dislikeness, of rejection and accepting, hope and fear, contains constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2328.0,2433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What you're saying is not to look for the \"right\" or the \"wrong\"; there is no such thing. And when you do go on that confused path it only causes mental confusion, because the ego takes over. But if you feel within yourself, through thought, the centered-ness of the whole thing there is no \"right\" and \"wrong\". Then it sort of resolves itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes that-- well the point is if there's no, as I said perceiver, there's no central point that you can-- you get confused of.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then other situations doesn't apply anymore. Conflict automatically falls away.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2433.0,2499.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You repeatedly mention [coughs] -- pardon me -- the descriptions of the awakened state of mind; for example, if there's no perceiver like you just said, and then such and such a problem disappears. Well what I wonder is, in drawing that kind of a map for us, with such repeated emphasis on the goal, doesn't that make it more difficult to live in the midst of what we are, and not to compare ourselves so much to what we ought to be? If we have a fixed idea of what a \"good man\" is like, then we're always comparing ourselves. But if we have-- if there's no idea of the goal, I mean what business have I even having any notion of the characteristics of the awakened state of mind, if it's only going to distract me from the facts of my own life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm. Well you see the point is that the-- if person is goal-oriented it is obstacle. But at the same time, if you-- because of that if you hadn't been told about the goal, that doesn't help very much either. I mean whether you're goal-oriented or not, whether you been told things or not, doesn't make much differences at all. Even if you don't know anything about it all you have some vague idea of some aim or object in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But what I mean is, it seems that there's sort of choice of what to devote one's attention to, either-- given that it's a good practice to devote your attention to something and study it clearly, whatever it is, it seems it's sort of a choice. Or you could devote ourselves to what we've been, to thinking about what we've done, thinking about what we're doing, or thinking about what we might be.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, that's why precisely meditation is a first step, is important. I mean you don't have to relate to yourself with either past or the future. But you just start on what you have. Like at the beginning, it's like dealing with-- working with the thought process, discursive thoughts and thought process, is what material you have. You don't have to start perfectly at all. You just start crudely, if you like, ruggedly. It's just a simple appreciation of your raw and rugged quality. And that's in itself becomes stepping-stone.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But is that not the end too, rather than just a stepping-stone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well goal is path, and path is goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Then if just seeing ourselves as the way we are, has something to do with the goal, the more we describe the, say awakened state of mind, or someone that wasn't quite so rugged as ourselves, won't that sort of channel ourselves and constrict the sort of naturalness of the moment, and trying to push yourself in one direction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. That's why the techniques in meditation are also important. That you are not particularly contemplating on hierarchical notion of spiritual aim or object, in terms of contemplation. But meditation in this case, just a simple, direct, usage of breathing or just a simple technique. Which keeps you away from any sort of wandering things. But, any case that goal is not past or future, at all. When we talk about goal, generally we tend think terms of future. But goal is present. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2499.0,2797.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is the seeing of thoughts, is that something that grows as a slow process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? The thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Seeing of thoughts. We were talking about-- before about seeing emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And an emotion, is I can see, if I have a fear it stays, while I look it it usually slowly fades out; it has a certain momentum it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But the thought, it seems to disappear. It's like a much thinner type substance and as soon as it's seen, it's gone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It doesn't go-- it doesn't stay while it's being seen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I wonder about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it seems that's true. Because in fact emotions also go away, but becomes less tense. Same patterns as the thoughts, but they don't completely dissolve, because they have more substance in them. And seeing them is a first step of a meeting point or meeting them. Not to be ashamed of but just looking them, viewing them, is first step.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Why does it after a while-- do the thoughts, do they stay, while they're being seen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you just see them without evaluation, they don't get fed by your evaluation judgment, but they just been seen and once you see them there's nothing -- you see their absence quality, their transparent quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2797.0,2895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: If I assume some kind of intuitive understanding of what we've been talking about, how does one relate of the thought of \"good\" and \"evil\" to one's relationship to society, and to say \"social\" or \"world\" good or evil? Say, to how does one relate as far as what one does in life, something like that, as far as say hunger in the world, or something like that? You know, what we normally in society we call -- because of TV and stuff, whatever -- we call this \"an evil,\" something to be done away with?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't see any problem [laughing] there particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There's no problem on an individual basis perhaps, but I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On national.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you still think that this an evil, or something to be done away with?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --in an intellectual way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, that once you see beyond \"good\" and \"bad\", usually you see good is as good as bad is as bad more clearly, because you have no biased view of you're on the side of good and seeing the bad. There's no foreground picture anymore; it's aerial view. You see in fact sharper; that black is black and white is white. There doesn't seem to be any problem at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But you still don't make the judgment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you don't make judgment therefore you see clearly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Because, I didn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you don't make the judgment, therefore you see much more clearly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. But then do you do anything if it’s--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, of course, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --against, as-- yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --I mean what would you do then, would you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- it seems to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --feed people or would you not feed people, or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, anything. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That's the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean it becomes a sort of-- once you begin to see the both good and bad have no particular solid... what you call... basic kind of a overwhelming texture, because, you know, you don't belong to either of the clubs, so to speak. [Laughter] And because of you see them as they are completely, from, completely sort of unbiased point of view, then you also develop a basic sense of basic common sense. How it should be done, properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How what should be done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and you will do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=2895.0,3082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Does it seem as though certain things that are happening in the world today are kind of, like when you have a child, the child reaches like three months or six-- eighteen months period they grow fast, they change fast. Are a lot of the things that are happening today would seem are evolutionary movements all over the face of the Earth? I mean this might be connected to what he's saying. So that if you see that clearly you sort of know what to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: They seem to be pushing the evolutionary...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too far.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not too far, just taking the jumps that is painful and honest.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes well. I think that there's two way of viewing it: whether you would like to help somebody, which makes you happy; or whether somebody really do need help, from common sense point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3082.0,3149.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: BREAK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps we should have a short break at this time.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3149.0,3161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Speaking quietly] It's all right. [Whispering] Welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nI thought perhaps we could begin with a short discussion, if any questions result of the group discussions. Or anything is unresolved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: There was a question that came up in our group. Somebody else in our group, remember that question? [Laughter] It was a great question. Something about the fact that, if the ego is constantly being reborn, then like how does karma come into that? And...it's a really important question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And how it's carried from one life to the next.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And how the karma is carried from one life to the next.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. And my question kind of is a rephrasing of that: how does it carry from one existence of rebirth-- you know within one existence? Because I can't really get behind reincarnation myself. [Laughs] So like-- but I can dig the thing that like, the ego is constantly being reborn. And so like how does karma continue, you know, like does it die every time the ego dies and then it's reborn every time the ego is reborn? You know, it just carries on and builds up or like what's [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean, \"ego dies\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Like, I kind of had gotten the impression like that the ego is constantly dying and being reborn, and like there were gaps between instead, like meditation was like a wedge that you put into that gap. Is that kind of...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, do you remember the-- at the beginning of seminar, when we discuss about the ignorance -- the first notion of freezing, trying to freeze the basic space? That seems to be the-- seems to play the role of \"father,\" in terms of karma. And beyond that level, that when ignorance begin to project itself outward to its... parent phenomena of world, and that becomes kind of \"mother\" quality. And because of these two subject and object situation, then... the journey back and forward between subject and object become very active. It's like--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The journey? The journey of what back and forth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The journey. It's like throwing voice, and echo picking it up and bouncing it back. And that kind of chain reaction went on and on. You see, karma is not really individual entity as such at all; it's just natural law of growth, sort of organic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3161.0,3478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A modification of that question -- that's the way you would have asked that question but in our group it got to be important thing. But is how is past karma affect the present? You know, like if we say we can at-- right at this point in time change our karma, how does past karma effect us in our present life. And the analogy was given by John that karma is like the chess game, where you have the chess game there and then like at any point in time you have your past karma which is the situation I guess of the pieces on the board or something and then they--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --then at any point in time now you have a chance to make a new move, and change the game. So that's like now-- but I don't know if it wasn't answered satisfactorily in the group, and that's probably the answer but maybe you could explain--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be the answer. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? What's... what's the problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3478.0,3543.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well I have a problem with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: See, we did! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Like in using the analogy like the chess game, and I realize it's always dangerous to use analogies but we're going to stick to the analogy. Like, is it that we are apart from all of our past experiences, from all of our past moves and thus can make a new move? Or \"are\" we all of the past moves? And if we are all of the past moves how can we [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you saying that if we are here by past fruition of karma then how can we make next move?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, well, could you repeat that again please?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you mean that if we are here already because of our past karmic results, and therefore how can you make next move?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If we *are* that. Not if we have *done* it, but more we *are* it. If we *are* it, like [laughs] how can we be something new all of a sudden? Like maybe you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that-- well it's, in fact exactly like game of chess; that past cannot effect future. Past goes as far as present. And then there's a gap. And present situation have to give birth to the future. So that you might say that you're here, actually attending this talk, by succession of incidents, karmically led, that you are here. But that doesn't make you stay here. If you want to step out and walk out this particular meeting, you can do so. Nothing bounds you. Because the present is open, as well as future is open to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3543.0,3703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Where is the gap between the past and the present?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Like, aren't-- like, it sounds like, to me, like you say there's a gap between the past and the present. Like, my intellectual mind would then say, \"That must mean that the present-- that the past is a frozen identity, and the present [laughing] is a frozen identity, and there's gap between them,\" you know. And yet, something else in my mind says, \"No, that's not true; it's all one continuous flow.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's a matter of attitude, a matter of concept isn't it, fundamentally? There's no such thing really past and present future, but we label them. And as far as right now is concerned, while I'm answering your question, it is present. That you have free will, to say \"yes\" and \"no\", \"I don't understand.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And not affected by the past?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. But in a larger sense you *could* say it it affected by past, because you happens to be here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah. And yet you could see it unaffected by the past in light of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you can make your mind. Because you can answer-- you can now-- you can response to my answers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3703.0,3805.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If it's like a chess game, the response, wouldn't it be conditioned by the previous-- by all the total previous moves? I mean that free will is almost totally conditioned by the past moves -- it's like in a chess game you only have a few moves you can really make that are-- because the board has already been set up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In other words so free will isn't that free.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not *entirely* free, because if you're here, sitting here attending seminar, you can't undo that. But you can do all sorts of things while you're attending seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But wouldn't those things also be conditioned by the previous moves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, because you're here at the seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that doesn't mean to say you are completely paralyzed by the past -- necessarily. I mean it's sort of using simple logic, you know in that sense. That certain things determined by-- predetermined by the past, and that provides-- that provide kind of ground to work on, for the present moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3805.0,3902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You spoke about your idea of spiritual materialism, and I remember in an earlier talk you said that, as I understood it, a safeguard against that was to realize that the process was the goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I remember that the process of being here right now is the goal. And I find that even in trying to be here and just allow myself-- allow whatever is, that there's still a taste of something more, that I'm dissatisfied. And I wonder are we saying give that up, accept this experience as it is. Even though my intelligence tells me that this is an incomplete experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, intelligence might say that it is incomplete experience, because that intelligence is also conditioned by ideal goal, which is not really intelligent enough. It is related with some criteria. The true intelligence never allows criteria, but sees things as really they are, beyond criteria. So cutting through that criteria notion then, one have to accept things as they are and just leap on it. Take a leap, and accept the stepping-stone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3902.0,4002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: We were told in our group about the moon reflected in a thousand bowls. And then the thing to go with it was, the sun doesn't think about whether it's producing corn. Well what does, in between? What happens in between the sun and the corn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Organic relationship.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Organic relationship.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And this had nothing to do with the sun, or the corn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, has nothing to do with the sun as consciousness of the sun.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't seem to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In the sun?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the sun. I mean intelligence in the sense of logic, logical mind. But there will be a kind of natural brightness, penetrating quality of intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No overshadowing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see intelligence is... could be inter-determined, relative understanding of things as they are. And also penetrating quality as things as they are. So this case it is the later one -- the intelligence, the sharpness quality of the penetrating quality of the intelligence. Rather than based on strategy in terms of relativity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=4002.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Somebody asked a question about when one transcends the play of ego, and is in a state of buddhahood, or just space. What happens to them, do they just disappear into the space, or if they come back, why do they come back, what that process is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do they come back?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, to say teach or-- I mean what happens when one transcends ego, is it just sort of a disappearance into space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that the transcending the basic ignorance of ego. Which is very limited, very much based on, again the relative notion. And when you transcend that relative notion, then beyond relative notion is open space. And that open space is like physical space, metaphorical space. In other word, the ultimate notion of... existing beyond center, or centralized notion of anything. But yet the expansion of space, each point of the space *is* center as well as its fringe. Space operates all-pervading way. Its very reason of-- it's very energy of all-pervading quality is center as well as its fringe. That is to say that space has tremendous energy in that as well. Because energy doesn't have to report back to central headquarters, so to speak, but it could operate on the spot. And that energy is the energy of wisdom and compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in a sense you don't have to enter into some state and then come out of that trance. You're already out in a sense, you're already energetic. And that communicates to then other confused mind, in terms of teaching and relating yourself. Relating oneself with that person need to be helped and worked. It's like again the same notion as the analogy of a hundred bowls of water, and sun reflecting in it. As far as sun is concerned, there's no hesitation at all. Just as long as there's bowl of water available sun just reflects in it, shines on it. So that's really force of compassion. Which transcends the idiot compassion, of conscience. Transcends conscience but it just operate on its natural level: what need to be dealt is be dealt, what need to be destroyed is be destroyed, what need to be developed is developed, without hesitation. That's seems to be the last stage of returning to the world from awakened state of mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=4110.0,4400.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, I may have gotten a little carried away, but I tried to apply the scientific procedure that you suggested, you know. And I came up with a problem from the result of discussion groups where we split up, was I cheated, I went to all four, [laughter] you know. And what happened was I found that [laughter] there was the four leaders, you know. And it seemed to me that each one was-- as a matter of fact they're all using similar parables, and almost identical vocabulary; it all comes from you. And each one was sort of giving the \"Trungpa line,\" you know like \"party line.\" [Laughter] And they break up in cells. [Laughter] Well what I-- you see-- and when there was a kind of confusion it was settled by, \"Rinpoche says.\" Do you know what I mean? Well, and it seemed to be so distracted from personal experience and it seems to be-- to deaden the whole spirit of the scientific approach that you suggested. That I came in-- when I tried to *use* what you said I came into contradiction. You know what I mean? That everybody just assumes that if they can quote you the subject, there's no need for further conversation. [Laughter] So what I under-- what I-- and I'm sure that you don't expect us to program ourselves with your words, you know. That-- did you get a question out of there because I didn't. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well seems that answer should rest on your intelligence. Wouldn't you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't quite follow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The answer-- *my* answer should rest on your intelligence. That your-- in other word your guess is as good as mine. If we both being scientific on the subject. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What I mean is, is there anything superimposed about Buddhist teachings that overrides the scientific method?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I mean if a buddha said it--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Nothing at all. Absolutely nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And what I have some confusion about is, I know it's pointless to-- if I want to have any sort of relationship with you not to pile on or project on to you what we all tend to project on each other. And that's something special about you. That it's easier not to project a lot of junk on you. But that I wonder is, are you anything-- are you any different from us? You seem to be. [Laughter] You know what I mean? It's like-- it's as if you were radiating-- there's a picture that I get of what's happening here, is that you're the center of all the activity and that emanating all the answers. You know, well that's fine in a certain respect because you know much more about meditation; you know more about you than I know about me. And that's fine. But there's almost like a-- that I tend to put on you, a permanent kind of a distinction, rather than right now you happen to know more than me, and tomorrow I'm going to know more than you. [Laughter] Do you know what I mean, you have an aura--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah I know what you mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --of permanence about you. Is that a mistake of mine? To put you off in a special category of the sun and we're the planets? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like, it sounds like going to lawyer. That you have a certain attitude to this lawyer, who has technical knowledge of things. But if you really use your own common sense, and talk to him, he would ask exactly the same as what you have come to conclusions. But at the same time you may pay money to him to just go to purely. That he has these technical things-- knowledge. Well it's-- at the same time he is not particularly \"superman\" than you; this case of lawyer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well does my tendency to label you as a superman, does that put-- create a barrier and make communication between us more difficult?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not only that alone, but it could be a source of laziness on you. That you don't have to work out anything at all, but if you want answer, you just run to me and ask me question and I answer your questions for you. Becomes very easy. It's like information service. [Laughter] Doesn't sound particularly healthy. One doesn't have a chance to stimulate your own intelligent and original ideas. I mean if we have come to conclusions together, that I might confirm, agree, that's another matter. That means you have worked all out already. As same as I did, and we both agree together. That's another matter. Whereas if I have to work out everything for you, then it becomes dangerous in a sense, that inspires laziness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=4400.0,4888.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then I find interesting this \"map\" that you mentioned before. I wonder if the place that has the impact [INAUDIBLE], the potential transformation, the death of the-- becoming transparent of ego, not-- I could see my urge to have a clear map, as like a plot on the part of my ego to be present at his funeral as you said before. Or, then it seems to me there must be some real value about it, which would-- having some intellectual knowledge of the path. Can you help clarify that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that it is really dependent on that your generosity in a sense, how much you're willing to open. And step out of the seduction of being able to understand and learn, in terms of ultimate point of view. But at the same time that I think actual intellectual understanding, the living quality of experience, in this case is not a dry intellectual but its living experience is being presented in terms of intelligent way. Which could become way of seeing through ego, overpowering ego. And there is a story of that when Buddha, for the first time when he mentioned the notion of shunyata, absence of duality, some of his older disciples had a heart attack and died on the spot. [Laughter] Because they understood intellectually, which was also shock to them. That's why the statement of intellectual, or this kind of way, special way of looking into the whole process intellectually, is referred as \"diamond cutter.\" It is also powerful one: if you really understood, even from intellectual point of view. Of course that is to say that there must be some basic intuitive understanding of meditation, which invokes intellectual thing, which makes more powerful.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn any case one can't really organize a strategy for ego to not deceive itself or deceive itself. It’s really depend on individual generosity, of how much you're willing to open and give up, give in. So there are no other tricks involved -- or caution, you can't apply any kind of caution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=4888.0,5121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But what is the source of intelligence? Once you get into the present moment, and if you're egoless, your thoughts disappear, and like if in a sense it's problematic whether there are any God as it were, or overseeing intelligence, or where does the intelligence or wisdom come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be important point -- that they don't actually come from anywhere at all. That's why they're powerful. They don't project, they don't present themselves in the ordinary sense, as we view it. They don't come from anywhere, they don't operate in the same level, but they are just nothing, as well as they're everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: In other words the source is totally enigmatic and incomprehensible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like the notion of space that we're talking about. Every corner of space is the center as well as its fringe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So we can't understand it in terms of like a source, or whether receptor, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the speaking in the language of duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, or speaking a language that’s based in time--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --which is not where it's at.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=5121.0,5210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, just one thing, and this is that consciousness and– this consciousness and space. But the energy, the energy and space, the energy is consciousness, isn't it? Is conscious?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it could be--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It has wisdom. That energy in itself is there isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The energy could be said, intelligent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The luminous quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=5210.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80098/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps we should get to next subject, of meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=5250.0,5253.374"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710530VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=1.06,4.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled\nBattle of Ego","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=4.95,9.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Three, given in Los Angeles,\nCalifornia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=9.25,13.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Three,\n\"Dealing with Emotions\" given on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=13.85,18.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"May 30th, 1971.\nThis is a CTI auto remaster 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And yet,\nsomething else in my mind says,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3725.71,3729.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"No, that's not true;\nit's all one continuous flow.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499#t=3729.59,3734.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148914/file/273499/transcript/80099/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean\nthat's a matter of 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