{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/696zw1b602/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1976-04-06: EVAM: Talk 2: Vajra Question Mark"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1976-04-06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/510/show\"\u003eEVAM\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: Vajra Question Mark"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Vajrayana and Tantra"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFocus on VAM, the masculine principle, and how it comes together with E, the feminine principle. What happens in outer space. Unconditional question-what. Diamond question mark. Indestructibility. Essence of VAM: indestructibility and warmth. Unyielding atmosphere. Joy. Pain and pleasure becoming one, mahasukha, great bliss. VAM as dynamic, giving birth to further space. Foolishness of holding onto anything.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Glimpses of Space","BOOK: Glimpses of the Profound","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF SPACE: Part Two: Chapter 2: Vajra Question Mark (out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF THE PROFOUND (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/glimpses-of-the-profound-3510.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 20 2018 to Jan 20 2022 Transcribing: Matilda Perks Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFocus on VAM, the masculine principle, and how it comes together with E, the feminine principle. What happens in outer space. Unconditional question-what. Diamond question mark. Indestructibility. Essence of VAM: indestructibility and warmth. Unyielding atmosphere. Joy. Pain and pleasure becoming one, mahasukha, great bliss. VAM as dynamic, giving birth to further space. Foolishness of holding onto anything.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/884/small/thumbnail_241884_1716517831.jpg?1716503472","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1716517005_19760406VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2123.28533,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/884/small/thumbnail_241884_1716517831.jpg?1716503472","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/241/884/original/1716517005_19760406VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1716517020","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2123.28533,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760406VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760406VCTR1 - Public Seminar - 1976 - Boulder - EVAM - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=0.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. Where did we leave last night? Somewhere. No reference point. And you might find that is very difficult to pick up. But somewhat very interestingly, that when you leave with things without reference point, that is much more *precise*. Because there's no reference point to pick up with, so the next situation is not conditioned by anything at all. It just come out and launch in, so to speak. Which is today's-- tonight's issue, so to speak. That issue that will go on for-- during our seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=49.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interesting point about what happens in that space that we were discussing last night, that particular type of outer space that we were talking about last night is... what? That seem to be it -- it is \"what\". There are a lot of different ways to say \"what\". You could say it from the point of view of panic, you could say it from the point of view of satisfaction, you could also say it from the point of view of hunger or uncertainty. But this kind of \"what\" we are talking about here, if there's no space, you can't say \"what\" anymore. Once that space is provided to say \"what\", what is that? There is some kind of clear perceptions begin to dawn in the midst of that gigantic vast space. It becomes very real and very powerfully open but, at the same time, dynamic, equally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=130.0,259.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is what we are talking about is the second principle, VAM. Unconditional space gives birth into unconditional question -- \"what?\" Somewhat you could say you couldn't care less what it's all about, but still you would say \"what?\" It's like traditional idea of a mantra, the first utterance. That there is vajra carved out of a diamond floating in this gigantic space, outer space, glittering lights all over. Or for that matter, you could say question mark carved out of diamond floating in the midst of space. But whatever it is, it is made out of a diamond, indestructible. In order to cope and work with such situation as that -- vastness and openness of that particular space -- one has to develop greater sense of-- one has to *have*, rather than develop, have greater sense of indestructibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=259.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of indestructibility is not so much that you actually asked a question, \"what?\" It takes form of question, but it becomes a statement rather than question, particularly. But still it has essence of yearning, openness possibilities; open possibilities, of course, and that which we call compassion. Indestructibility *and* sense of softness, warmth, put together is the essence of VAM. That we have some sense of directness and some sense of indestructibility, some sense of openness, which doesn't stand for any kind of further germs or dirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=409.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In that journey with E and VAM together, any element of native germs does not survive anymore. Not necessarily the atmosphere is too pure and clean necessarily, but atmosphere is unyielding. When the atmosphere is developed that way, that the atmosphere and the situation doesn't accept any form of... whatever. That there is no room to be feared, claustrophobia. There would be no room for cowardice, localized pride. Any kind of conventional approach is not applicable, and you wouldn't take the journey at all if you were in that particular condition, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=494.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that notion of indestructibility we just discussed also contains immense sense of joy, or bliss, if you'd like to call it. But in this case we are not talking about a happy, yippee kind of joy, which is a localized joy, provincial joy, joy from the point of view of one planet's concept. But in this case we are talking about joy or bliss, is something beyond any context, therefore it is completely total. For instance, if your car is damaged in accident partially, you will still think in terms of getting repaired. But your car is totally wrecked, absolutely wrecked, and you just give up, which is some sense of relief which contains also a kind of joy. It's not a terrible disaster, particularly, some sense of relief that comes along with it. I hope you know what I mean. [Laughter] There's some sense of relief, some sense of freedom, and some sense of free from certain burden. Whereas, if your car has a dent here and there, and you just have to take to the body shop, and you have to pay money and all the rest of it, and that's more of a burden. But the whole thing's completely gone and completely wiped out, and it is a different experience. A totality of some kind is taking place there. That kind of joy, that kind of bliss. Which is to say that that kind of joy doesn't have to be maintained. Simply, you go to the insurance company and claim for money. As simple as that -- if you have a good policy, of course. [Laughs; laughter] That kind of sense of relief is not particularly relief, but it is a certain sense totality, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=604.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of totality is based on idea of nonclinging. If there is a sense of space around you already, then the notion of totality is obviously there. Whereas, if there's no sense of space-- a lostness in space *without* umbilical cord attached to your Mother Earth anymore, then real sense of space begin take place. We are talking about, this case, journey out into space without telecommunication to relate back to the Mother Earth, so to speak. And you have freedom to do what you want, what you like, but still that you have freedom to land, come back to your world, and work with your fellow people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=787.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A certain sense, in certain point, the pain and pleasure become one. There is immense dynamic situations take place that very point. That is what is known as the VAM principle -- the \"mahasukha\", the \"great bliss\". In this great bliss concept, we are not talking in terms of that you could be completely exasperated in tremendous, fantastic joy, like grain of popcorn in a little container that get cracked and dead with its own gleam of smile coming all over your body. [Laughter] You might think that's somewhat funny, but I'm afraid people think that way. The great joy is going to become-- you'll become completely dead and rigid and frigid with gigantic smile. You can do it eternally. [Mimics rigid grin; laughter] That's a popular notion of spiritual bliss, actually, of the materialist point of view, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=875.0,997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This VAM also contains sense of essence, sense of possibilities of giving birth. It contains semen, egg, sperm, seed, what have you, yeast, whatever metaphors might be visible or appropriate. It contains tremendous dynamic situation where that you are not afraid or hesitant to sow further seed anymore. And once you begin to sow a seed, your seed become a dynamic one. It begin to present itself naturally, very simply. So you give further birth to the space and contents of the space simultaneously. And you're giving birth to further solar systems, further planets of all kinds that you're not afraid of, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=997.0,1111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If there is any kind of localized notion to relate with this situation, the pressure does not come from inside particularly, but pressure comes from outside. And you begin to create big blast, \"keeoh!\". [soft explosive sound] If you are not willing to accept the space, and hold on to your territory, then the space would organize the sense of ultimate blast to break those shells. And some people call it is vajra hell in the tantric tradition, others call it damnation, what have you. But nevertheless, holding onto something is being made into mockery. That you can't hang onto anything particularly, but when you begin to do that, you'll be made into fool, absolute fool. A sense of suicide is achieved by trying to *not* suicide. Sense of suicidal is achieved by not trying to suicide, by trying to preserve. That's the interesting point, that's motto. The natural suicide takes place when you're not trying to do so. Very sad. Very, very sad and too bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nI shouldn't say too much, and I want you to think about what we have discussed. Maybe this point we could have discussion if you would like to contribute with the questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1111.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is this experience something like the vajralike samadhi or can it be something like a \"nyam,\" a temporary experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are not talking about a particular experience, we are talking about what it is, simply, this point. We are not particularly talking about path, but we are talking about what actually it *is* at this point. So we haven't discussed the path concept yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1303.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? Oops. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nGERRY WIENER: Is the vast space equivalent to nonduality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well basically it is, but somehow I didn't like the way you asked the question. [Laughter] Where are you? Yeah. It sounds you're trying to put things into a pigeonhole, if I may say so. We are not trying to create dictionary here, particularly, which we would like to eventually. [laughter] But we are not particularly trying to put things into a neat compartment, particularly. Thank you, anyway. [Laughter] That's very useful contribution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1331.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Over there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: When you mentioned that unconditional space gives birth to unconditional-- the unconditional question, are you talking about question in the sense of total or unconditional confusion? Or the issue of \"what\" -- that question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the nature of the question rather than issue. Issue is just... poof. Very simple. You might have a very serious issue: \"When do I see you again?\" But the nature of the question is different than the issue, actually, if you can separate between the two things, which is interesting point actually. What we are talking about is the nature from the point of view of the how you actually ask the questions, rather than what you actually say. You would say, \"Is there another cup of tea left for me?\" or \"Is somebody next door?\", \"Is there going to be another sunrise tomorrow?\" -- anything. But it is the manner and the style that you do it. \"What?\" You see? \"What?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1433.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I was wondering about a way of perceiving ourselves on the path. That we're involved, say in Buddhism, and that there's a possibility of space in that which can accommodate both our failures and mistakes. And contrasting that with a sense of paranoia, that we have to pay attention to detail, that you spoke about yesterday in the sense of the louse crossing the thread -- the specific situation. And I was wondering if that sense of space of our perception of ourselves on the path is what you're talking about in EVAM? Or some sense of indulgence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you want to believe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [laughs] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At this point, everything's open. I want you to float, so to speak, and become real by floating, rather than become love-and- lighties particularly -- of course not. But however, the choice is yours, sir. That's it. Anything you want to believe. Anything you want to do. It's *yours*! It's your seminar. I'm just a mere push button here. [Laughter] You get the pictures. That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [Laughs] I got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1578.0,1694.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oops, we are getting the wrong people at the wrong time. [Laughter] Doctor over there? Physician -- of some kind. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Um, Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [Laughs] --I was wondering if you would say a few more words about the VAM concept in relation to its indestructibility and unyielding quality, and then the softness or openness that it also seems to have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the same time. Sweet and sour at the same time. It's like the question of space. You can't destroy space, but at the same time space is very accommodating nevertheless, and also kills you at the same time on the space. It's very uncompassionate, but at the same time very accommodating nevertheless. It's like notion of space. That the essence of space is become the VAM principle, the vastness of space is E principle -- put together. So VAM principle is nothing other than space particularly, but it's the particular attributes that it does exist in the VAM-- in the E principle becomes the manifestation of particular characteristics of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When you were talking about the VAM principle and you were talking about both the E and the VAM together the softness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: E is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --and the unyielding--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --expression. E’s manifestation is the VAM. E is just vastness of it basically. That's it, full stop. But beyond that, there are qualities exist. We could say the light and brilliance of the sun, but we could also talk about the destructive qualities that sun does, sun produces, also creative principles that sun does produces. You know that's kind of saying the same thing, but nevertheless that's interesting twist in our state of mind. Usually we wanted to relate with one situation with one thing, another situation with another thing, because we would like to split things usually. But in this case, we can't. We can't at all. We have to relate with *that*, which is everywhere so to speak. Not to become too religious there. [Laughs] But everywhere, because it has its own expansion; everywhere, because it is active everywhere at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would that relate to compassion in any way? That softness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --in the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the accommodation, of course, definitely so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1694.0,1874.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ruth? Are you still ready?\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Last night we were talking about this space, this vast space, which was filled with terror. And we made a great leap tonight into this combination of the journey of E and VAM coming to the point where pain and pleasure are one, into the great bliss. But it's not very clear how the terror turned into the bliss.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see what we are doing here is trying to point out the highlights of what could happen, what might happen. But the-- it is question of presenting-- we could come up-- *I* could come up with piece of things with joints, another piece of things with joints, which might not squeak because they've been well oiled. And it is your job to join those two joints together. And the puzzle work is left to the students actually, at this point. I don't want to particularly be mysterious about that, but I think if you give more thought to what's been said in connection with this joint stuff, that joint thing, put together, how you can work-- make things work and make a robot out of that, [laughter] whatever, you know make Buddha out of it, or Christ out of it, whatever have you. So the subtleties seems to be depends on you, actually. I don't want to particularly go to great length on how you could be so subtle. That is very dangerous, that teaching you a new game, which would be fundamentally deceptive and destructive at the same time. So I would like to leave it up to you people, here, to at least figure out what's going on. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884#t=1874.0,2018.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129044/file/241884/transcript/67288/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think we are getting rather early already. And maybe-- unless there is some announcement that need to be made? Any announcement of any kind? Announcements? Okay, well have a good sleep, good dinner if you haven't had already. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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