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So as not to just cut through surface alone, we need something more penetrating. What needs to be cut through? 1) Conflicting emotions, not ordinary emotions like love or anger, but sense of being blindfolded, bewildered, unable to experience reality clearly. 2) Primitive beliefs about reality, obstacles that cause knowable situations to be unknown to us. Rather than trying to make the dharma fit us, we should fit that outfit, which is known as sanity. Vajra-like samadhi occurs when we realize we cannot celebrate our own enlightenment."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 25 2020 to Mar 05 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Even with the sharp, cutting-through action of prajna, problems remain. So as not to just cut through surface alone, we need something more penetrating. What needs to be cut through? 1) Conflicting emotions, not ordinary emotions like love or anger, but sense of being blindfolded, bewildered, unable to experience reality clearly. 2) Primitive beliefs about reality, obstacles that cause knowable situations to be unknown to us. Rather than trying to make the dharma fit us, we should fit that outfit, which is known as sanity. Vajra-like samadhi occurs when we realize we cannot celebrate our own enlightenment."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/277/small/thumbnail_245277_1720580116.jpg?1720565767","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720579989_19760528VCTR2-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2101.39733,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/277/small/thumbnail_245277_1720580116.jpg?1720565767","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/277/original/1720579989_19760528VCTR2-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720580003","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2101.39733,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760528VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19760528VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Berkeley - Skillful Means and Wisdom - Talk 12]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=0.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have discussed the other night still should continue in the beyond level of prajna as well. The interesting point is when the notion of prajna becomes very clear, the sharp sword that we discussed, razor-edged knife that we discussed. Somebody asked me the question, \"What happens with the students, what are students do?\" which is very important question actually at this point. As far as the razor of prajna performs on individuals, it is a mutual decision in some sense, that it is just as similar to going to the barber to you get a haircut. And you might ask question, \"What happens to you when barber begin to cut your hair?\" It's a mutual responsibility, that you happen to be there to get a haircut and barber is begin to cut your hair at the same time, so it's mutual responsibility, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=69.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we go on beyond that, there are a lot of simple situations that we might go and discuss the-- up to the level of vajra-like samadhi, vajri-samadhi level tonight. And still having cut through, the process having had made already connections to your reality, personally, properly and fully -- but still there are problems, that we haven't still quite able to experience the sense of real cutting through properly. The prajna's razor is to-- just to slice the skin and flesh, or depth of fat you might have, nothing more than that. And beyond that is there is need to be something more penetrating. That it is not so much of just purely cutting through that surface, facade, alone, but something fundamentally realistic, *real* situation, which seem to play very important part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=165.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have at this point is two types of situation is happening. Is what's known as \"conflicting emotions.\" In Tibetan word is \"nyonmong kyi drippa.\" \"Nyonmong\", which means literally \"messy\" and \"lot\", and \"drippa\" literally means \"obstacle\", obscurities of all kinds. So when that begin to happen-- that happens throughout the whole thing actually. There is still nyonmong kyi drippa, or conflicting emotions, taking place all the time. And we should make quite clear when we talk about conflicting emotions, we are not purely talking about emotions being bad, or good, particularly. But emotion in this case is not ordinary emotions that of hot and cold, emotions when you fall in love you cry or sigh, when you get angry you grind your teeth. But emotions this particular case we are talking purely in terms of the blindfolded aspect of the whole thing. Where you don't actually experience the sense of reality particularly at all. That you're wrapped up in some kind of bundle and are completely bewildered and stupid-ified. That seem to be definition of nyonmong, which has the-- gives the idea of confusion or chaos, and stupid-ified, blindfolded. Rather than that you are *sharply* in love with somebody -- you cry, that's fine. Or if you're sharply angry with somebody -- grind your teeth, that seem to be magnificent at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=262.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So emotion this case is not so much of height of temper, particularly. But emotion this case is sort of bundle or muddledness of something that's taking place, and not actually able to see which is which, what is what, properly. Some kind of bundleage, bondage. And when that begin to happen, throughout the whole journey, usually happens throughout the whole journey, the notion of conflicting emotions are conflicting, in some cases, because you begin to change your mood of your stupidity. At some point you're stupid and you're willing to-- not willing to relate with anything. Another point you're not willing to relate with anything, so there is some kind of alternating stupidity, stupid-ified situation, bewilderment taking place. Which is more of emotion in this case, rather than just hyper-tenseness or anything like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=430.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next thing is what's known as \"primitive beliefs about reality,\" which is Professor Guenther's word, which is quite rightly so actually at this point. And the Tibetan term for that is \"shechi drippa\". S-h-e-j-i [sic], shechi. Drippa, t-r-i-p-a [sic]. Shechi drippa. \"Shechi\" literally means \"knowable\". \"Drippa\" is literally \"obstacles.\" That what we are discussing here is that obstacles that might occurred to the knowable possibilities, knowable situations. That what makes us the knowables unknown to us, which is obviously primitive beliefs about reality. That we-- when we begin to believe that we have to actually build our own understanding and we have to actually edit the dharma. We have to actually-- in order to understand, we have to make ourselves understood. So therefore we have some ideas and saying everything is okay, there's nothing to worry about anything. But we try to figure out everything, and we have to have build some kind of cheap arrogance. And when we begin to do that, that there is nothing is actually happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=530.0,642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that very moment the notion of deaf and mute in order to hear or speak of the dharma begin to take place, in the very higher level, at this point. Which is the direct obstacle to the vajri-samadhi, vajra-like samadhi, which is the final breakthrough of enlightenment, according to the mahayanist traditions, at this point. It is primitive because that we begin to think in terms of our own version, concept, approach, how things should be. If those situations doesn't fit our particular preconceptions, our own expectations, and it doesn't quite work. And that is not quite the case in this case at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=642.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular case, so to speak -- whatever suitcase this may be [laughter] -- is very heavy one, loaded. At the same time very light. And this particular case, the notion of primitive belief, about what you think things should be fitted to your particular size and shape, height. The dharma should be regarded like materials, fabrics. They should be cut with a scissors and sewn into your shapes. Which is utterly wrong idea, and obviously there is some kind of spiritual materialism taking place. Then we begin to regard the dharma as a costume, a suit, shirt, that otherwise we blame the tailor. And at this point we blame the teacher, spiritual friend, obviously. That \"this spiritual friend who gave me this particular suit, or this particular costume, didn't fit me.\" And regard him as-- put him in the black list. And somehow that is primitive belief about reality. That dharma shouldn't fit you, but *you* should be fit into the dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=710.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometime ago we talked about that Buddhism doesn't talk about democracy, popularity, which is quite true. Buddhism do talk about sangha-ship, which is general sense of vision that we share together of course. But that doesn't necessarily mean to say that it's a voting system taking place -- whether we should decide to practice on shamatha-vipashyana or whether we should try to attain enlightenment mutually or not. And all those trips that you might try to figure out, but doesn't somehow quite work. It still remains very primitive. [Laughs] And nothing actually should fit our own outfit. We should fit into *that* outfit, which is known as sanity. And you are not particularly trying to fit yourself into a particular organization or club, or any particular buddha or bodhisattva's model. It would be difficult if you'd seen Avalokiteshvara with a thousand arms, we can't fit to that particularly. It would be difficult to make suit for him. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=809.0,892.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow notion of that we are the materials that trying to fit to something else, which is known as enlightenment. That traditionally what we usually believe is that anything be taught to us should benefit us. That we are the big deals, we are the important people. But this case in the mahayanist approach particularly that we do not exist as individuals at all. That we should be able to fit into some other greater idea, greater ideal, which is known as \"enlightenment.\" So that's where lot of students having difficulties and problems, resentment, and everything, unable to sit and practice properly. And all of those problems we could say quite safely, that your all problems of sitting practice and this problems of understanding of the teachings and everything are all of them could be included in that particular category, quite safely. That we don't regard ourselves as materials that would fit to different ideal, higher ideal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=892.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point when that begin to take place, that we begin to feel ourselves are belittled, naturally. At that point we begin to realize ourselves can't actually celebrate the festival of us attaining enlightenment, at all. That we already dropped dead, gone beyond, we don't exist anymore. And we finally at that point attain enlightenment. That is very-- extremely crude, almost devastatingly crude description of vajri-samadhi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=964.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But since we can't have more time to discuss and talk about it further, maybe we should end this point. And if you'd like to have any questions, you're welcome. And I still insist on trying to be more pointed questions, on the subject, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1002.0,1032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is the vajra-like samadhi the same as the indestructible absorption?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is indestructible absorption? Where did you read that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, Gampopa refers to the inex-- indestructible absorption and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean in Guenther?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You are different, yes, so I'm asking you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know about that particular term.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, the vajra is diamond and indestructible, and the absorption is very steady and indestructible.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say \"indestructible.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's samadhi.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Samadhi could be absorption, vajra could be indestructible, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But when you put both those terms together, and it sounds like someone is going eternally into trance, which is not quite the case. This case more *awake*. The vajri-like samadhi is utterly awake, ultimate awake, rather than going into absorption particularly. And that point there shouldn't be any absorption at all, it's just fully awake, utterly being.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There goes Dr. Guenther down the drain. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1032.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Earlier in this series you responded to a question by saying-- well, you'd been taking about neurotic crimes and blockages, and in response to a question you said that neurotic crimes was similar to the conflicting emotions that you mentioned tonight. And you also made somewhat of an equation between the blockages and the other ones you mentioned tonight, which I can see. But I'm having a hard time putting together the idea of the neurotic crime with the idea of this stupidity of the conflicting emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the conflicting emotions are both of those things, neurotic crimes and blockages, basically. And there is no problem with that, because when you have conflicting emotions it is not very wide, expansive anymore. It is so individualized and so petty, on the same spot. So, can you make it clear, with your question, if you like?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'd just like to stop with that. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1156.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I would like to ask about the relationship between shamatha and vipashyana meditation and what you've been talking about. If shamatha is the experience of the precision, and vipa--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precision?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The precision.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precision, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Mhmm. And vipashyana the experience of the environment or the space--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --what is prajna? And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Prajna goes with both, in some sense, but much more leaning towards the vipashyana. But prajna takes place in both ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do shamatha and vipashyana have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shamatha has the precision of the prajna, of mindfulness. And vipashyana has its awareness precision of the prajna at the same time. So both saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The image which is used for vipashyana is that awareness comes to us and burns the fuel of ego-mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And the image of prajna is of the sharp sword cutting--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, vipashyana image of that case is somewhat primitive sharp sword, primitive one. But prajna itself is much more precise, which actually cuts rather than just come to you, to liberate you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there an idea that prajna arises from, could you say, within?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Prajna arise within sitting practice of meditation and all. As soon as you begin to sit on your zafu, prajna begins on the spot. Along with your fart. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What does prajna have to do with thought?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thought, thinking, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thought?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: At the beginning you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --described it as like contemplating the three marks.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, thoughts are thoughts, therefore they contain some kind of clarity, at the same time some kind of confusion at the same time. The clarity part is prajna and the confusion is part of the what we call conflicting emotions. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1253.0,1423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: One more question. Could-- is nonexistence an experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because you have *non*existence. Yeah, still experience I'm afraid is not as good as great. [Laughter] Still experience, sure. That's why people talk about you're just trapped in shunyata experience. You're trapped in nonexistence experience, which is still some kind of dungeon.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1423.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Does the lavishness of the lifestyle at the house where you're staying have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Does the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Radishes, did you say? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [Laughs] Do you understand the word \"lavishness\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lavishness, yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Lavishness of the lifestyle at the house have something to do with cutting through our primitive beliefs? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you trying to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, it seems like it's an experience of seeing how the dharma doesn't come in the package that you expected it to come in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Package that you accepted it-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That it doesn't meet with your-- with your values, with your-- that it doesn't conform to your personal value system.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say exactly \"lavish\" what we are doing. It's just barely minimum. [Laughter; applause] And of course that-- you could have a different level of lavishness, of course, you know. If you had butter on your bread it would be very lavish, and all the rest of it, that's very basic, I suppose, sort of levels of all kinds. As Ram Dass call it \"spiritual levels\" of all kinds. But primitive belief, I don't quite see exactly how to fit that. Except dirty dishes, which would be primitive beliefs, I suppose, which is very greasy and very chaotic, which is greatest of all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When I was thinking about primitive beliefs-- I mean I assumed that-- one of the things that seemed to draw me to Buddhism was the sense of moderation in some way. [Laughs; laughter] I mean that-- well you talk about indulgence, you know and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --and not indulging, at least psychologically not indulging. And so it threw me to see a lot of material indulgence, and yet I can see it as a part of the teachings as well. [Laughs] But I wondered if you would comment on that or if you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's very interesting, actually, topic, since this is our last night. And we are talking about vajra-like samadhi as well, the final exasperation of the ego, ego's trip, and everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe notion of lavishness, as far as concerned, in concept it is levels, what you talk about. And lavishness from what reference point? Which is discussing the same thing as idea of expansiveness of enlightenment attitude, enlightenment itself, that there is no reference point at all. But you can-- you keep going, in greatest extent, so there's no really reference point at all, this point. And at the same time-- what is the other one you talked about? Indulgency, which is also the question of how much frivolity that provides, or how much solemnness provides. It's a matter of just some kind of discipline as to how we actually learn to walk on the steps, properly. If you don't learn to walk on the steps, we might slip, break our back. If you learn to walk on properly on our steps, it could be very lavish. That we don't learn how to walk on steps, now we learn. It's very expansive trip, learn how to walk on steps.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's all reference point, which doesn't actually exist at all. It seem to be natural process. And we can't actually draw a line, here and there, particularly. That the-- if you like to call it the lavishness of the expansiveness and everything, well keep going, all the time, expansively, continuously. But at the same time we begin to relate with the \"well, the previous one wasn't so bad but this one is worse.\" [Laughter] And we keep on going. And we-- child might see that three days of moon, third day is the moon on the calendar, is nice and cute, and clean. And until it goes to fifteenth day of the full moon, the child's mind keep on growing. And on the fourteenth day you might say, \"This couldn't be bigger than this, this is biggest moon I've ever seen.\" But then there is full moon, but even that's not as big enough, not as big as space. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1481.0,1881.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'm a little confused about the relationship between bodhichitta and tathagatagarbha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tathagatagarbha is basic existence, bodhichitta is further infusion, further shot. So that tathagatagarbha will take sympathetic attitude along with that. We could say the same way, when you wake up early in the morning, how early it might be, that tathagatagarbha is the notion of awakeful-ness. And bodhichitta is having woken already, related with the day life, therefore you take bodhisattva vow to confirm that you're awake and you're relate with your day life. Like eating breakfast is confirmation that it is morning, which is taking bodhisattva vow, like eating breakfast. That you mark that your day is begun, that you're awake already. That tathagatagarbha is-- you have potentialities of being awake, and you awoken already, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277#t=1881.0,1978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130945/file/245277/transcript/68474/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, thank you, I think this is the end of our DDT [ed: ATS]. And thank you everybody being very patient and attentive. And what message this brings altogether, trying to bring together this point is lots of sitting practice of meditation, lot of actual understanding of discipline, no kidding each other, particularly oneself, particularly. But beyond that is some kind of sense of that full moon is not actually full moon yet, but there is a greater full moon yet to come. And let us expand our vision and festivity continuously. Thank you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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