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Spirituality not possible without meditation. Western tradition of religion over spirituality. Dissatisfaction and confusion as necessary starting points for meditation. How confusion secures ego, generate passion, aggression, ignorance. Meditation opens to everyday life beyond \"good\" or \"bad.\" Transcending ego that is frightened and confused. Meditation unlearning process, not mental gymnastics. Importance of relating with teacher, spiritual friend. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] whether one \"retreats\" in spiritual practice or engages with world; [Q8] how meditation brings up hidden neurosis and undoes it, leads to helping others; [Q10] how awareness \"vipashyana\" happen in meditation; [Q12] whether possible to meditate when tense; [Q13] distinctions between prayer and meditation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 30 2019 to May 29 2026 Transcribing: Harry Einhorn Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMeditation as working with individual and society. Spirituality not possible without meditation. Western tradition of religion over spirituality. Dissatisfaction and confusion as necessary starting points for meditation. How confusion secures ego, generate passion, aggression, ignorance. Meditation opens to everyday life beyond \"good\" or \"bad.\" Transcending ego that is frightened and confused. Meditation unlearning process, not mental gymnastics. Importance of relating with teacher, spiritual friend. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] whether one \"retreats\" in spiritual practice or engages with world; [Q8] how meditation brings up hidden neurosis and undoes it, leads to helping others; [Q10] how awareness \"vipashyana\" happen in meditation; [Q12] whether possible to meditate when tense; [Q13] distinctions between prayer and meditation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-lxv0cb.mpga"]},"duration":3961.58619,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/535/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-lxv0cb.mpga?1783093670","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3961.58619,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720220VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720220VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Growth of Spirituality in North America - Minneapolis - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled \"Growth of Spirituality in North America,\" held in Minneapolis, at an unknown location. This is talk number two, February 20th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made May, 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=0.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking on the subject of meditation is quite involved topic. It reflects individual mind, and also it reflects the individual situation within society, relationship to each other as well. It seems that meditation is one of the powerful developments, or powerful way of developing spiritual practice. And without that, that it seems that there cannot be such a thing as spiritual practice at all. And it is quite certain that with traditions of great religions of world, simultaneously agree that spiritual practice has to be based on psychological development. Spiritual practice cannot develop on a materialistic, or institutions, or politics, and so forth. That spiritual development has to be based on the human mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=22.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we seem to have a conflict here, particularly from the West, that we have spirituality, and religion. And religion is a-- the reflects of spiritual practice; we put into certain categories and certain practices, certain traditions developed around it. But having developed in such a way, that quite often that we tend to hold the wrong end of the stick. We tend to get into involved with religion rather than spirituality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=122.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And meditation movements that have developed in the West particularly, recently, is tremendously significant. Because of these reasons, that because of the dissatisfactions that people have felt in terms of their living situation. Because of political and social disorder, and spiritual disorder, religious disorder that people have experienced, therefore there is yearning toward some definite and solid, and, so to speak absolute or real, dealing with the human mind becomes extremely important this point. We also have tremendous confusion from that point of view; that particularly this country is becoming spiritual supermarket, or religious supermarket. All kinds of profound gadgets. And all kinds of convincing contexts being presented to the public. That there's so many things to go through and so many things to experience, that whether such shopping trip is going to be healthy and useful, or whether such shopping is going to present further confusion; that is uncertain. And we are going through such extreme situation, such extreme problem. Not only from the religious point alone but from the point of view of nationwide neurosis that has been developed, from all kinds of confusion, are also leading towards spiritual problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=179.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of such situation that meditation seems to be the only way, the only way to put such confusion into jeopardize, and confusion could bring understanding. It seems that you cannot begin without confusion at all, whatever happens. How profound the wisdom may be, but we have to begin with confusion; that's the basic philosophy of meditation, is starting from the confusion. Starting from the chaos. And this confusion is not only confusion alone but it contains tremendous pain, suffering. Neurosis of all kinds. That there is a neurotic tendency to maintain ourselves, and try to reassure ourselves. And not achieving such goals, in itself becomes irritating, and disappointing. That there is emotional disorder, and confusion, and then from that there is a relationship to the world at large becomes also problem in confusion, constantly. In a sense that the whole human mind is thriving on bewilderment. And that bewilderment seems to be the only starting point, rather than trying to shut off. So that in a sense that such confusion that we are experiencing, and this particular kind of confusion that we are talking about is not only present to the twentieth century alone, but it is quite an ancient problem. That confusion is always there. Misery and pain is always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=316.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the time of Christ and the Buddha, there was also confusion. And dissatisfaction and pain. Because of such confusion and dissatisfaction, because of such pain, therefore such great teachers -- Christ and Buddha -- are able to manifest themselves to the world, and give their teachings to the world. I mean in other words that unless we have patients, sick people, we cannot have obstacles. Because degree of patients, because degree of sickness, therefore that much obstacle becomes useful, and valid and helpful situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=460.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view that suffering and pain, dissatisfaction and confusion of all kinds, is the starting point -- is the starting point of meditation practice. That in the Buddhist tradition that it is known as meditation practice is not aim, object, or goal; for that matter meditation practice is not regarded as mental gymnastic practice at all. Meditation practice is just to make a relationship with that confusion, and start on the confusion, and from that confusion gradually understanding develops.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=507.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about this kind of confusion, it is the occupation of the confusion. To begin with, confusion takes form of complete bewilderment; no ground at all whatsoever. And then, halfway through, that confusion begin to seen as occupation; that you'd like to find such confusion to hang onto, as handle. And as confusion develops in its solid situation, that one would like to hold onto it as handle. And it becomes confusion as a way of maintaining one's existence, in the form of passion, in the form of aggression. And confusion tend to radiate outward to the world outside of projections. And as it radiates out to the world outside as projections, one begin to develop something's repulsive, something's seductive. That's a delightful discovery, to maintain this confusion. So whatever is seductive, trying to grasp, trying to hold onto it; whatever is negative and repulsive, one tend to push out, destroy it. So that holding on, defending oneself, is the base analysis of passion and aggression. Which automatically means that we have developed solid projections; that external projections regarded as something that we should grasp, or something that we should exorcise, destroy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=560.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the practice of meditation is trying to work with those passion and aggression, and relate with such situations. But at the same time, trying to shut off passion and aggression does not help at all, because we're using the same game that we've been using all the time. It would be exactly the same way of dealing with the situation, and that perpetually increase the paranoia, or claustrophobia of mind. So that meditation is the way of coming to terms with fundamental concepts of what is \"good,\" what is \"bad,\" trying to transcend what's known as the dualistic notion of goodness and badness. That if passion is not regarded as either good or either bad, then one begin to see the *naked* passion, and just simple bundle of energy as it is. The same with aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=701.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So people often ask, the practice of meditation, \"Do you meditate 'on' something, 'for' something?\" In the Buddhist tradition, you don't meditate \"for something,\" because if you begin to meditate \"for\" something, that automatically means you are trying to increase your projections, and its ghostly-like qualities begin to haunt our [INAUDIBLE], because we are initiating the projections, as solid projections as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=770.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the practice of meditation therefore, you don't use, from the Buddha's point of view, any particular magic, any particular way of self-hypnosis, concept of any kind at all. Because the meditation becomes more seductive, and if one presents colorful and seductive techniques and methods, which use a pair of crutches inlaid with gold and jewels. Such crutches becomes more seductive to use, rather than actually walking independently without the crutches. So any method that's been used in the practice of meditation is therefore transcends beyond technique, transcends beyond method, transcends beyond the mind's occupation. So that practice of meditation becomes part of daily living situation. Rather than that you enter into self-hypnosis type of trancelike state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=809.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic principle of the meditation, according to the Buddha's teaching, is therefore is related with living situation. How to pour a cup of tea, properly, truly, fully, completely. How to relate with the living situation as full as possible, without any further implications, of \"this is good,\" or \"this is bad for me.\" But just because it is so, therefore there is no further implications being put on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=903.0,943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the practice of meditation is the way of stepping out of concepts and conceptualized mind. Which tend to bring all kinds of the usual patterns that we discussed already -- passion and aggression, and all kinds of things. But at the same time, that doesn't mean to say that you end up being jellyfish, or robot. If you are directly associated or connected with things as they are, in the living situation, then your relationship to living situation becomes more precise and more real, more definite. And one doesn't see the further implications of good or bad in the living situation, but the living situation as it is so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=943.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, in the Buddhist teaching when we talk about transcending ego, and that kind of ego is that ego which has fundamentally frightened, fundamentally confused, fundamentally involved with passion and aggression. That kind of ego which fails to relate with reality as such; that's the definition of ego in that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1000.0,1041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to develop what's known as primordial intelligence. There again, the practice of meditation is not so much of collecting materials, and in terms of mental gymnastic practice, and training your mind as such at all. But it is a way of unlearning process constant on and on and on. So once we are able to unlearn our hangups and preconceptions, and we begin to come to relate with the basic intelligence that is in us constantly, in us, and just purely relate with that. If able to relate with that basic intelligence which able to see things as they are, then enlightenment is awakening rather than imposed on us. Whatever is imposed on us is subject to decay. But if we able to *awake* the basic tendency that's in us. That tendency to perceive things as fully as they are, and tendency to see beyond this bewilderment of ignorance that we've been talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1041.0,1119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, the self-inspection in itself is could be said as biggest tendency of enlightenment mind. That reason why that we ask questions, reason why that we are dissatisfied with the living situation, and reason why that a lot of things doesn't answer our questions, is because the intelligent mind cannot be fooled; it begin to sense something. For the very reason that having questions is the mark of intelligence. Whereas if you are completely stupid, and completely dull, even questions can't occurred in our mind at all, because we do not know what questions to ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1119.0,1165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when we have questions or dissatisfactions, and doubts in our mind, that is a sign of fundamental intelligence. And that seem to be the starting point of meditation practice. Of course as far as techniques of meditation practice is concerned, that it seems preferable to relate with a confident teacher, and have a personal relationship of that particular friend. It is not regarded as master or teacher, but guru is regarded as spiritual friend; that you relate with such person as eye-level relationship. Someone that you can communicate, as well as someone that you could regarded as mirror reflection. And that seem to be the implication of spiritual friend or guru. And because of having personal relationship with such a person, then one is able to open oneself and communicate with that person. Which is fundamentally representing the rest of the universe, rest of life's projections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1165.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, meditation practice is therefore not regarded as somebody shows you a trick, or magic, and if you get into it then you get kick out of it, at all. It had to be organic and gradual process, that tune into one's own whole being; having tuned into one's being, one begin to wake oneself up. It's like in the morning when you wake up, you have to tune your awakening, a daylight situation. As you relate with your daylight situation more and more, and you begin to discover your awakened state of that particular mind, metaphorically speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1252.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that any kind of gimmick, or magic that's been presented, in terms of practice of meditation or spiritual development, seems to be what's called another \"spiritual materialism.\" It's another concept of purchasing merchandise. It seems that this notion of spiritual materialism is one of the prominent problems that we tend to face. That there's also a problem of spiritual materialism and religion, religious practice tend to become very confusing to reconcile. What is religious practice? What is the real tradition connected with realization or understanding? What is spiritual materialism? Part of materialistic living, it seem to become extremely confusing. Unless that we are able to relate with our own being, and direct and thoroughly, and not expect any further magic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1297.0,1384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other words that seems that this notion of, from Buddhist point of view, practice of meditation is that if you want to help yourself, someone could inspire you to help yourself, rather than someone could save you completely. And there's no automation. The emergency service is up to you, whether you like to relate with emergency service or not. If you open yourself towards a spiritual friend who might perform operations on you, you could do so, but don't expect any anesthetic from such spiritual friend. It may be extremely painful process, to loosen up, unlearn, [INAUDIBLE] the fixation of mind, of ego, is extremely, possibly painful. Because one has to give up the whole concept of a connection, and whole conception of the other idea of rescue seems to become bonded in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere could be a lot of things said about this, but I should not confuse the audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1384.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's a very great privilege for me to be invited to make a very brief response to [INAUDIBLE] Trungpa. I recall my days [INAUDIBLE] kind of an emergency when a great Protestant theologian was moving from New York to Cambridge, Massachusetts, after retiring from Union Theological Seminary [INAUDIBLE]. One summer he made it to Japan, and had conversations with Buddhist priests, Buddhist intellectuals, and when he came back he was all aglow with enthusiasm about this experience, and he wrote about some of his impressions, with the Buddhist intellectuals in Japan. I've never personally had the opportunity of being in dialogue with a Buddhist. I'm a complete neophyte, and I'm really quite embarrassed to be thrown in this kind of situation with so little practice, with so little preparation for it. So I'm going to restrict myself to just a couple of questions, because I stand here to be instructed, and not to make a speech about the difference between Buddhism and Christianity, between the Kingdom of God let's say on the one hand, and nirvana on the other. We have not heard tonight in the lecture the differences between Christianity and Buddhism, in terms of doctrine. So I think what we have heard tonight is something that all of us can really learn, and put into practice in a real way.\r\n\r\n\r\nI do have one overriding question, however, and that *does* come out of my own Christian involvement, and that has to do with the question whether there is really a difference in the way we understand the aim of human existence. Whether the aim of human existence is to become so preoccupied with oneself, or one's own standing, or one's own relationship with oneself, or whether we are not in fact thrown into history, thrown into the world, and thrown into a social field, and in which the challenge becomes not to accept oneself, or to accept the existing state of affairs, but to involve oneself in the existing state of affairs in order to change it. Not in order to change one's outlook on things, by immersion in oneself, but actually to become very realistic, in the appraisal of the existing state of affairs, and then by way of an ethics of involvement, dedicate oneself to an operation of the existing state of affairs. That means one is not so preoccupied with oneself but one throws oneself into situations. It means one has to be somewhat at home with oneself; one does have to have some vision of a better world, of another world, of a possible future world. And I think that one is in some sense has to come home to oneself in order to be to be meaningfully involved in an ethics of transformation.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut this is as-- the little bit that I understand about the relationship between the Buddhist understanding of life and the aim of life, and my own understanding of Christianity has to do with this: whether we should retreat into ourselves and find our own ground of being and meaning within oneself, or whether the *meaning* of my life is not precisely determined by its relation to the entire field.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it has to do with the question of the \"meaning of life.\" Is there a meaning of life just for myself and my own ground, or aren't we all in it together, so that we all sink and swim together? So that my neighbors and my brothers and all mankind somewhat-- in some way is participating in my own destiny and my own future, and therefore there's no meaning for me in meditation in order to get myself together, unless it is only a way by which I relate myself again and to my neighbors who bring about fundamental alterations of the psychological and sociological conditions under which all of us live.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it really has to do with what is the *aim* of life, that change the whole situation, or in a certain sense by mystical absorption, or immersion in myself, to have a kind of seeming salvation, when-- and many many people are trying it I think, through transcendental meditation and things [INAUDIBLE], disciplined spiritual exercises. But I wonder whether it really changes anything, or whether one is not really fooling oneself, by involving oneself in this kind of retreat into oneself. It's a problem I've had with mystical tradition in the West, for a long time. Mysticism is not a new phenomena now as it enters in from the East, because the Western tradition has had its own incursions of mysticism, through Greek Oriental, mystical movements, at its very earliest point. And we have a great tradition of mysticism in the West, and it's been a problem for me, whether it really has changed the conditions under which people live, so that people eat better, and they sleep better, and the conditions under which they relate to each and enjoy the human fellowship, are fundamentally improved. Well that's just the only basis of what I have. Thank you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that dynamic question brings a dynamic approach to the practice of meditation and spiritual path as a whole. That I think there is seem to be certain... misconceptions of spiritual path as whole. Whether spirituality is purely get oneself into higher being or higher cosmic consciousness, whatever you'd like to call it. Or else that spiritual practice is purely related with social situations alone; trying to be good, trying to be kind, mechanically.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems we are confused of the two points. We cannot be just good, as efficient machine. In other words, human mind cannot be computerized by pure functional way. On the other hand the human mind also cannot be put into hypnotic trance, by rejecting its energies, at all. So the question is seem to be, the relationship with the world is the speedometer of spiritual development. If you don't have world around us, we do not have a spiritual practice at all. On the other hand, if we don't have [MICROPHONE FEEDBACK] intelligence, which perceives the world around us, we cannot function.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word there is an analogy, let us use, is that you could help somebody. Because you want to see that person be happy. How you want to see that person happy, \"which makes me happier.\" Whether that is compassionate thing to do, or kind thing to do. Or else, \"I do not care whether I'm happy or not. That person just needs help. No matter whether it makes me happy or not.\" That's kind of approach one could use, onto that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nBuddhism is often blamed, under the attitude of searching for goal, aim, or object, as being selfish religion. I suppose you could say not only Buddhism alone but any of the Eastern teachings of Hinduism or whatever have you. But at the same time, Buddhism is the-- one of the only religion -- or one of the only religions -- which acknowledges suffering as being part of the path. It does not reject suffering as something bad, something we should seal off. Acknowledgement of suffering is part of the intelligence of human mind. Also called for what's called in the Mahayana Buddhist tradition, of action of the bodhisattva, is selfless action, that \"until all sentient beings being delivered to enlightened state of being, that I take a vow that I do not attain enlightenment myself personally, at all.\" That kind of compassionate attitude seems to be one of the characteristics of Buddhism at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe spiritual practice of Buddhism, whether it's monastic or whether it's contemplative, whatever it may be, always recommended that relating with living situation. In order to attain nirvana, we have to be thankful that there is such thing as samsara. Otherwise nirvana cannot exist without samsara. So, it's a question of actually relating with living situation, relating with society and relating with social situations. As I've already mentioned that relating with the social situations automatically brings the spiritual practice; without social situations, without dealing with people, without helping them, without working with people, that spiritual practice cannot exist. And some scholars made a remark, that Buddhist approach is extremely socialistic approach. Which maybe could be said too, from their point of view. And historically that Buddhist development in India ignored caste system, and any social hierarchical structure of all kinds at all. And just purely there for the simple human existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it seems that therefore spiritual practice as a whole could be said as the spiritual master, or the reminder of the spiritual path is the world, the living situation. Without the living situation and without relating with the living situations, dealing with other people, working with other people, that you do not have any spiritual practices at all. And that seem to be the final conclusion, on that basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are there any other questions? Okay, way back there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There seems to me [INAUDIBLE] spiritual friend and a teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] I don't know if I understand, [INAUDIBLE] it seems to be that a teacher [INAUDIBLE] spiritual friend [INAUDIBLE] deal with American [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, of course there could be teacher in terms of academic teachers, or teachers who give you information. And such teachings could be presented to you through the media of-- mass media. You could publish a book, and you could have radio and television presentations of giving informations to people. But a teacher, from the point of view of a spiritual friend, cannot use mass media, and have to have [INAUDIBLE] personal relationship. It has to be an individual relationship, relating with one person to another person, as a friend. The very reason that idea of that is the student does not feel that he or she is stupid, or incompetent to receive teachings, but student will feel that she or he is also a friend of this particular person who supposed to have a lot of knowledge of it. So relationship becomes eye- level relationship. And because of that therefore students will be able to open his mind towards teaching, being able to hear more, without self-consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] a person can act in either role, [INAUDIBLE] and other times can act as a spiritual friend?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. But spiritual friend is comfortable. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I would like to ask a question [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3:[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=1483.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You said that we should meditate to reduce [INAUDIBLE] increase [INAUDIBLE] typical thing to understand. Can you give an example?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It isn't so much we're reducing, or anything to do with the projections, or trying to play with projections at all. It's trying to remove the conceptualized notion of the projections. In actual fact that projections are overwhelmingly powerful, because we put concepts onto them, which makes them more valid and more overwhelmingly powerful. Seductive or terrifying, whatever its may be. So it's dealing with the actually the project*or* and reducing the concept of the project*or*. So that projections becomes a dance, \"lalita\" is known as in the Sanskrit term.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=2477.0,2546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You can't actually make that happen, if you really got faith in enlightenment, [INAUDIBLE] enlightened mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in some sense you can make it happen. I mean otherwise you have no stepping-stone of any kind at all. Either you could do it or you couldn't do it. So one *could* adventure towards that direction, by not stepping back and not being afraid of being with the situation, or removing the projections, removing the contents.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, but that has to come after [INAUDIBLE]. I mean you can't make either that [INAUDIBLE] or the fact that you're going to project it. [INAUDIBLE] totally spontaneous, and that's why [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seems to be, like the practice of meditation seem to be the way of doing that. In the practice of meditation you don't try to do anything with anything at all; just you be \"there.\" And because of being there, therefore our subconscious repressions begin to come up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah I'm not quite-- I'm just wondering what your technique is [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes. Yeah, what your meditation technique is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The meditation technique is not imposed, any techniques at all, at this point; it's just--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, but if you can say during meditation is trying not to have the suggestion, and trying not to [INAUDIBLE] not to [INAUDIBLE] and trying not to have, I wondering how you get to that place where you [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you just identify yourself with the given techniques like, traditionally developed, like breathing, or walking or whatever its may be; you just simply deal with the physical situation directly. Just purely become one with the things as they are. By being with the techniques, automatically opens some further aperture, because techniques have nothing to do with the concept at all, technique is just physical real bodily situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Can I interrupt just a minute? You've got a lot of noise. For those who are asking questions, do you want to stand up and ask your question, so everyone can hear the question also, and we know what we're responding to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=2546.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What kind of goals are you hoping to [INAUDIBLE]. Have you located [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I have no particular hope, or goal of any kind at all. In fact, for the very reason the actual existence of my meditation centers brought themselves together. And I just go along with the [INAUDIBLE] situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I assume you had [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm sure something will happen. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=2682.0,2738.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm just asking a question concerning [INAUDIBLE]of mantra, repetition of Buddha's [INAUDIBLE] attaining his goal of enlightenment. The words you've often said about how it's in the certain powers has been helpful, you said the powers have been given down by generations of leaders. In your opinion, or in your experience rather, do you feel that mantra, these repetitions have been helpful, or hindrances to the path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there again, it's a question of how you relate with the mantras. If you relate with the mantras as just [INAUDIBLE] mantra, not with any further expectations from it, then they become simply what they are. Whereas if you expect some great deal from it, then your expectations becomes a hindrance, rather than the mantras becoming hindrance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Why would a person choose to sit for hour after hour repeating words over and over again unless they have an expectation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to have necessarily have expectations to develop patience. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well where do you see common ground [INAUDIBLE] on the spiritual [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that any kind of way of trying to maintain [INAUDIBLE] through inclination towards self-deception of all kinds -- any kind of side track, whatever you have, seems to block the basic vision of basic openness. And particularly... in terms of marijuana or hashish, seem to produce over-clouding. In other words person's mind becomes-- or thought process becomes metallic, and extremely solid, so that there's tremendous confusion, particularly what you are or what you are not. But on the whole that whatever techniques you use, other than manual practice seems to become hindrance anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=2738.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: A personal question, [INAUDIBLE]. Do you have any contact with your people in Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Politically very difficult to do that. Except a few people might escape from certain border area of Tibet, not from Tibet itself. The restriction is overwhelming, so that you cannot make the journey, crossing mountain passages, and crossing rivers and other things like that. And I think a lot of people trying to escape, but extremely difficult, almost impossible. And they get killed on their escape. So that most of us Tibetan refugees who escaped outside Tibet have very little communication or very little way of getting information from it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=2951.0,3012.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The traditional idea of asceticism is always valid in any kind of practice, spiritual practice of any kind. But we have to be quite clear about the meaning behind asceticism. The meaning behind asceticism is not to inflict pain on one's physical or torture one's mind at all, but it is to reduce any further supplies to the mind, of any kind. It's ultimate asceticism is not to present any further source of confusion. So if-- even if fasting or other means to maintain the apparently [INAUDIBLE] ascetic practice becomes further food for the confusion, then that in itself is defeating the purpose, and it had to be related with individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3012.0,3106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I wanted to ask you [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose you could say meditation is a way of realizing one's basic sanity. And when I mean-- when I say \"practice of meditation,\" it is a way of relating with one's whole being, as well as a way of relating with one's fellow human beings. Meditation practice as such, that there are traditionally developed of sitting meditation, and walking meditation and other things have developed, but they are also way of relating with oneself. And there are certain subconsciously hidden neurosis that we don't want to look at, we don't want to see it, we don't want to experience those. And meditation is undoing those, and trying to bring these hidden neurosis on the surface, by means of simple practice, like working with the breathing or walking or whatever have you, is a way of undoing, unlearning the hidden game of ego. And by doing that automatically that one's way of relating with other people, fellow human beings, becomes precise and natural. In other words that one would be able to work with other people, help other person, help the rest of the world. And one is quite certain that if a person that relate with himself, thoroughly and fully, completely, that it is quite certain that person does not going to become nuisance to other people anymore. That's the first starting point of helping other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3106.0,3232.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Are we?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibly. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3232.0,3248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] if you're doing meditation when you're walking, or say like [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good point, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] enlightened mind [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Are you mostly ignoring [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. You see the whole idea of what's known as traditionally developed in the Buddhist way, what's called \"awareness practice,\" or \"vipashyana practice\" has been developed. And that is not to split your consciousness into two; one is being aware of yourself, one is doing the activities. But within the realm of activities, you are covered the whole ground; you've developed what's known as the panoramic vision.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That's the double-consciousness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That *is* double-consciousness but it's not being--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But a specific double-consciousness [INAUDIBLE],\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean you could--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Not [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. And then-- I mean that is not only into [INAUDIBLE] mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you able-- if we are willing to do it it happens. Quite conveniently, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're willing to put yourself into such situations. Through the practice of sitting meditation, one begin to develop understanding that you don't have to speed anymore. You don't have to force yourself anymore. And then, certain basic openness begin to develop. So you could speak, you can walk, you can cook, you can eat, within that basic space that developed, which act as general background, or the awareness practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But that's not just willing that to happen, that [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to push yourself to it, I mean, otherwise questioning mind becomes so overwhelming that you don't know how to start. In other word one have to just give up pushing and just have to do it. And because of such conviction that has been developed... I mean we can't really argue about it, you know, we have to do it, actually. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But I mean you can will yourself-- the willing yourself to sit down [INAUDIBLE], but what I don't understand is will [INAUDIBLE] consciousness on yourself and that [INAUDIBLE] is preparation for [INAUDIBLE] where you talk about panoramic vision [INAUDIBLE] consciousness alongside the other states of consciousness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could develop such a panoramic vision. As long as you don't check yourself. You see you don't have to make sure all the time any more.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah, yeah, so it's [INAUDIBLE] talk about consciousness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to at the beginning. But you have to develop willpower so to speak. And then don't watch yourself doing it, don't let-- don't check yourself constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Having experienced the panoramic vision, then disown it. And then it happens spontaneously. Because it is not the only thing involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Right. But when it gets to that state--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just give up logic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Give up what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Logic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Ah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3248.0,3461.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I would like to ask another question, you know, what is the role of the [INAUDIBLE] a leader is a questions his role--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A leader needed?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Say a leader can help somebody in meditation, what is the role--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If leader needs what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE] What I wanted to say is, do we need a leader for a student involved in meditation, do we need a leader? [Laughter] Do we need a leader, and, if so, what is his role?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose that you could say that you need someone to set you on the path. Someone who suggests the possibility of working with yourself. And then the role of that person set you on the path becomes not necessarily particularly important at all. It's just because of that inspiration of the first person, you just go along. A leader or teacher, is the person actually introduce the possibilities of such things, because that teacher *himself* did it. Which inspires a great deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3461.0,3558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is the physical [INAUDIBLE] for relaxation useful in meditation? And is it possible to meditate when one is physically tense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, altogether meditation does not mean producing relaxation, necessarily at all. Relaxation has very little to do with the meditation as a technique. You *could* say that relaxation could be by-product of meditation, but in the practice of meditation you don't introduce any kind of way-- any form of sedatives let's say, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I didn't mean chemical sedatives.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I mean, symbolical sedatives, [laughter] metaphorically. And you don't try to relax yourself necessarily. And meditation could apply *all* the time, whether one's tense or one's relaxed. Because meditation does not depend on the biological state of any kind at all. The mind's over matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3558.0,3621.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: A Russian Orthodox priest spoke here Friday.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: [INAUDIBLE] A Russian Orthodox priest spoke here Friday, and he made much of the point that as a Christian, he found it much easier to discuss prayer than meditation. To approach the topic of meditation through discussion of prayer. I'm wondering what prayer means for you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that the tradition of Philokalia developed into the contemplative tradition. And Orthodox have similar approach to Buddhist tradition as well. So it's not so much of put yourself into a fixed effort, but just go along with the flow of the prayer, whatever its may be. It's-- the whole description is extremely beautifully described in the book called THE WAY OF THE [A] PILGRIM, which you're probably aware of it. And that explanation is almost identical. And certain stage one's heartbeat becomes prayer. It's the following with the rhythm, rather than restricting yourself in a certain particular fixed praying. Like in the Buddhist tradition you use the rhythm of breathing, rhythm of walking. Which is also not a way of fixing yourself in a certain-- not solidifying yourself, but going along with the energy that consists there constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But you don't separate meditation from prayer. In your meditation, there are not times when you do more prayerful? This is what-- the point of the Orthodox as well, that I guess came out of the discussion in general, that there was a rhythm... Prayer and meditation refer to sides of the same coin and-- but as he saw it, the object of one's prayer, and meditation, was a tool of prayer, a...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have a-- we seem to have a problem of definition of words there. It's-- generally when you talk about meditation, it is some subtle form of preoccupation. Like as we talk about a \"pre-meditative state.\" But in this case, what prayer is described is the meditation what Buddhists would describe. And also meditation could mean \"dwelling on something.\" Which *is* preoccupation. The general idea of a prayer is more like the idea of what's known in Buddhist terminology as vipashyana practice; that is going on with the rhythm of life, post-meditation experience. Trying to go along with the energy that exist. Actually meditation is a very difficult word, and often I find quite hesitant to use that idea of meditation, which implies a lot of other things. In fact the definition of meditation in the Buddhist tradition is completely opposite of what's been said by the dictionary. Directly opposite. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535#t=3621.0,3931.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174118/file/313535/transcript/95075/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I'd like to ask one very brief question. The Marxist philosopher Ernst Bloch has a very interesting section in his book called THE PRINCIPLE OF HOPE, in which he distinguishes between night dreaming and daydreaming. And what he says about daydreaming sounds very similar to what you say about meditation. Although this is not something one works oneself up into but one-- usually when one's very young one falls into daydreaming. 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