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Buddhism as differentiated from other religions for its nontheism; no external deity or principle is source of salvation; Buddhism requires individuals to work on themselves rather than unite with something outside. Trungpa Rinpoche encourages us to explore basic questions: who are we? What are we? What is \"existence\"? Usually we try to establishing our existence, which is \"big joke\", given no abiding existence. What is buddha nature then, if nothing to hold onto? We are \"still here,\" so questioning that is first step in discovering buddha nature. Emptiness as creating ongoing openness and power, the \"continuity of nonexistence.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, incisive questions about the core concepts in the talk.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 14 2019 to Oct 03 2023 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Matilda Perks Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz, Travis May Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAn in-depth talk about the discovery of buddha nature on the Buddhist path. Buddhism as differentiated from other religions for its nontheism; no external deity or principle is source of salvation; Buddhism requires individuals to work on themselves rather than unite with something outside. Trungpa Rinpoche encourages us to explore basic questions: who are we? What are we? What is \"existence\"? Usually we try to establishing our existence, which is \"big joke\", given no abiding existence. What is buddha nature then, if nothing to hold onto? We are \"still here,\" so questioning that is first step in discovering buddha nature. Emptiness as creating ongoing openness and power, the \"continuity of nonexistence.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, incisive questions about the core concepts in the talk.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Discovery of Buddha Nature: The Mahayana Path, held at Padma Jong in Dos Rios, California. This is talk number one, October 10th, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is talk, number one, in seminar on The Discovery of Buddha Nature, given by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche at Padma Jong near Dos Rios, California, on October 10th, 1975.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=0.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome everybody. I'm glad you're able to make up at this point. And it seems to be very important -- can you hear me? -- that you have experience-- experienc*ing* particular type of approach towards seminars are much more based on personal input on your part, rather than purely based on a presentation's entertainment alone. So that helps a lot. And the basic approach to this particular seminar, and which you have done in the past few month or so: one in RMDC, Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, and one in Karme Choling. And this is the third ITS [Intensive Training Session]. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=55.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the purpose of this is particularly to experience more of a sitting practice, so that the students can hear and understand much more so than we usually have. And one of the problems of seminar situations usually, is somewhat sort of \"get together\" session. And at this point is trying to avoid that particular possibility -- and not so much to say that everybody should be hostile to each other particularly [laughter], but that students should have some sense of discipline, that we do what we preach; we do what we believe, do at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=140.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a lot of you might be new members here, coming to a first experience of this particular seminar, ITS, whatever. I would suggest you to get meditation instruction right away, if you haven't got already, so that you’re going to spend a certain amount of time in sitting practice so you should know what you're going to do in the sitting practice itself. So you can hear what's being discussed, what been talked. And also how you can take this particular experience back home, when you go back to your own particular cities or apartments or houses, what have you, or teepees, or whatever. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=195.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight's subject, as I've been told a few minutes ago [laughter], is discovering of buddha nature -- is that right? [laughter] Which is not a very problematic situation, or it's not a complicated situation to discuss, but nevertheless it is very important fundamental, basic view and point of Buddhism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=253.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Universally, on this Earth, planet Earth, that we have a lot of religions, lot of faith, lot of beliefs, taking place. And we have Hinduism, we have Judaism, Christianity, Mohammadism, and Parsi, and all kinds of religions takes place. Zoroastrian rather. So, that we have a lot of traditions taking place on this planet, and we have to actually [laughs] sort out where we are, in terms of Buddhism is concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=289.0,345.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And every religion probably would say they are basically unique in their own way, which is quite true. And every one of us are unique, for that matter. Otherwise we can't be in this particular time and space situation anyway. And uniqueness doesn't seem to make much of a big deal, or larger-scale situations. But the belief that is based on the certain kind of convictions, and convictions that been told, or conviction that been experienced. So we have two categories there: the conviction what been told, and the conviction what been experienced. So those are the two particular basis of two kind of convictions; knowing that every one of us here, are searching for some kind of spiritual journey of some kind, and some kind of salvation or liberation, or freedom of some kind, eventually. That seem to be a general notion, otherwise you wouldn't be here. If you don't want to hear any something good, that you could save yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=345.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So general idea is that notion of savior; that we want to be saved. That's general notion. Larger degree of basic crudeness, of you want to be saved right away. Or subtle degree, that you want to know the truth, that you can save yourself. Whatever is may be, is basic notion of savior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=440.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there is two concept that involved with what we're going to discuss, what we are discussing tonight, is the notion of theism. Which is regarded as rather vague term; believing in a deity, a divine principle; and by worshiping, supplicating, admiring that particular principle, that we're going to be saved. Either becoming one with it -- her or him, whatever -- or else that that becomes into *us*, and we become like it. So, kind of amalgamation takes place, basically. That's the basic nature of theism, which is put very crudely of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=468.0,539.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we are not particularly talking about the esoteric tradition that exist in the theism, which is sliding towards nontheism in some sense. But this case we are talking about direct theism approach, which is a savior exist externally. But its eternalistic existence becomes somewhat internalistic situation, because we put so much energy and effort and emotion to it. You could say the same thing to our lover, our enemy. That our enemy is more internalized; when we hate our enemy *so much*, we would like to create immense harm, we would like to *kill* our enemy. We would begin to develop a sense of internalized experience; that we are one with our enemy. Or as we could say with our lover, that we would love our friend, wife, husband *so* much, that almost that particular person cease to exist as external person at *all*; that it becomes one with us completely. And we find ourselves making love to our*selves*, because that particular love object become so much internalized, that we have so much input in ourselves, so we begin to feel inward, particularly completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=539.0,648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All of those relative reference between love and hate objects in a theistic approach, in the Buddhist case, what we are discussing this particular seminar, is somewhat different from that. That we are talking in terms of the object of reference to a higher goal -- or lower goal for that matter -- if you regard as a god or devil in two ends. Both are someone should have hated and avoided constantly is devil; and somebody who's should respected and venerated as a god. And both are polarities that exist; that we have no way of experience of working with ourselves particularly personally. Although there could be input from that experience, the internalize our own trip completely; we could do so. But still, the mechanism coming from outside, the switchboard is working from *outside*, rather than internalized personally, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=648.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore Buddhism is alone. It's a very lonely religion. And doesn't have its brothers and sisters religions of any kind at all. It's rejected religion. A religion that has not been accepted by any theistic traditions, particularly. And not of the Hinduism, which is closest this relationships, where the Buddha himself was brought up as a good Hindu, and then he finally rejected, and attain his own realization, working with himself. And at that time there was no existence of any of the other traditions exist particularly. But still we could say in this particular day, today -- 1975, right? [laughter] -- that we have not found companion religion to Buddhism, at all. Because Buddhism seem to be *alone*, standing its own feet. And the reason why Buddhism is actually called \"religion\" is because it has developed immense discipline and wisdom by itself, rather than borrowing from anybody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=716.0,814.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in the case of its relationship with the rest of the traditions exist in the world, is that Buddhism is atheist, the essence of atheism -- or politely we could say nontheism. Does not believe or worship in a cosmic mecca of the world, produced of this particular world. It does not worship external deities of any kind *at all*. So, we are stuck with this -- as long as you're here this weekend at least. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=814.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nontheistic tradition of Buddhism. Which is not so much of actually trying to give up, or trying to attack existence of God, or divinity. But Buddhism is not particularly concerned about creating its own territory of that way. But Buddhism is very much concerned with existence of *ourselves*. So if you begin to work with our existence of ourselves, and supposing hypothetically, we realize ourselves that we don't actually exist -- that's hypothetical, supposedly [laughter] -- if we realize that we don't actually exist as such a person at all, then our object of worship disappears, and off to the thin air. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=867.0,935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have to feed our deities, and if I have-- if you have to keep our dutiful activities to please the deities, the divine being; and by praising, by prostrating, supplicating, then our deity becomes more powerful to us. They begin to speak back, the more intensity we put in, obviously. But in this case, that there's nobody to do that, at home. And somewhat the deity begin to perish, at the same time. And you might find that's very shocking, extremely shocking. But that seem to be the case, what case is may be. That we have doubts about our *own* existence, let alone \"that\", or \"that\" [laughter], our own problem. Finding out who we are, what we are. And quite possibly, according to the hinayana traditions, that it would say, that we are actually-- our existence actually is questionable. [Laughs] Not knowing, to begin with, who we are, what we are; we are already confused. But furthermore, what we mean by \"existence\" -- what is that? \"What in the hell did you come up with that idea? What we trying to prove? Who we trying to impress, in any case? What is all about?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=935.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we could say that, \"I would like to succeed in my life smoothly, have a reasonably happy time. And do my duties, and fulfill my role in society, so I could be good citizen, or good this and that. A good religious person, or at least trying to become some kind of different levels of holy man, by searching on spirituality in this way.\" That's too vague. Who're we trying to con? Who we trying to play our trips to? That we finally find that we actually beating our own drum, without audience. It's not actually drum that you're beating, but you're beating your own *head* [laughter], without audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1074.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what's known as aggression, in the Buddhist tradition. But I think any common sense people would say the same thing. Doesn't have to be Buddhist theology particularly. And that aggression keep on beating its own drum, on the high horse, all the time. \"I want to exist. I want to exert myself. I want to prove myself that I exist, and I could function this way. I would like to attain the highest of best of the anything that can exist spiritually and materialistically and everything; I would like to get everything!\" [laughter] Who are you? Let's be gentle, and let's just think and talk, simply; you don't have to impress anybody. But who are you? Who are you? [laughs; laughter] \"Well... I'm just 'me'.\" [laughter] I know that. *Actually who are you? If you don't mind, asking further. What is you? \"Well, this thing -- I want lots of things.\" But more than that, *how* are you? Who are you? What are you? If you look very closely of-- beyond the hoohas that we make, big scenes that we make. Actually who are you, what are you? If we look ourselves properly, fully, thoroughly, completely, we don't find really there is solid answer particularly at all. There is some kind of skeleton project, of some kind. And there is a collection of firewood without flame inside it. There's a lot of air gushing through our water tap when we turn on, creating cosmic farts, but no water coming through. [laughter] That's what we are -- we make ourselves much more bigger deal than actually what it is. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1142.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's true! We don't really have what we think what we have. [laughs] And we are what we think what we aren't. [laughter] It's too bad. [laughter] Wish we could do something better, *actually*. We don't exist, practically, literally. We don't even have to borrow the quotations from the scriptures to prove that, but actually our own personal experience we don't exist. If you really look at who are you, what are we... there're just a collection of dust, which even doesn't exist. A grain of sand that pretend to be just grain. But what is the grain of sand even? That shovels by itself. We are in trouble. [laughter] What we going to do about that? \"I got my job, and got my apartment, and get back after this. And I have to finish my -- whatever it may be -- and start performing, start working, start making money. If I don't have any identities of what I'm going to *be*, that's a big joke.\" Sure, that's a big joke, absolutely. And that joke has been going on *all* the time, *all* this time. Absolutely. Without missing a point, every minute, that joke has been going on all the time, all this time. We've been so naive to accept these joke as *realities*. [laughs] That joke is always there; has been happening all the time. [laughs] You might laugh at it but you might cry at, but whatever you do, it's still true -- that we actually don't have our own substance, as such particularly. So if that's the case, what is the idea of discovering buddha nature? [laughter] It seems to be a great contradiction. If don't have anything \"us\" of at all, what is discovering *in* us? There's no container, what's the containing situation? That's true. So we don't seem to have buddha nature particularly, at this point. And we just little nonexistent air flowing in the outer space. And it happens to land on-- something's happen to land on this planet called Earth. But still... it's very sad. Don't you think it's very sad? That we couldn't find anything to hold onto anything? It seem to be absolutely *terrible*. [laughs] That we come here to find out a *meaning* in our life. Confirmation. \"If this is the confirmation, I'm going to walk out right now, out of the hallway!\" [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nHmm. What you think? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1358.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, nothing exist except just little flakes that floats around in the cosmic air as cosmic dust. Nothing seem to really exist. But on the other hand, why are we here? We don't seem to be floating physically; everyone sitting on the floor, and they have their relationship with gravity, and nobody is flying, levitating. And we have control-- we are stuck with our own Earth. Well, that's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1661.0,1739.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be first a step of discovering buddha nature. It's not so much of \"nature\" as such, which is when we talk about nature, that we have some kind of concept of being a conditioned situation -- a conditional situation. Being of good nature or bad nature or wicked nature or enigmatic nature; that we have already conditioned that particular nature. Had to be either soft or hard, or something like that. So this case when we talk about buddha nature, we are not talking about particularly conditional nature; where we talk about just a basic existence, basic *quality* that is always there, independent of a relative reference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1739.0,1797.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So where does that nature fits in this...? This nature actually fits in the levels of nonexistence of our existence. That our existence basically, fundamentally are completely sterile -- if you like to put it crude word -- or unproductive. But because it's unproductiveness it's very *creative*, because it does not have any allegiance towards to \"that\" or \"this\" anymore, at *all*. So because that diminishing our personal existence, and experience of that brings us some sense of continuity of nonexistence, if you can make-- if you can figure out, if you know what I mean -- I hope you do, somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1797.0,1867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Discovering buddha nature at the beginning can't be planted on a theistic experience of relative reference, or humanistic experience of immense love and hate texture. But discovering buddha nature had to be founded on nonexistence -- unconditional, unhampered by anything at all. It's a virgin territory. That area that hasn't been understood, realized, but at the same time its nonexistent *is* the strength and the power of it. Which is very difficult to work with it, and generally understand. But if you understand the physics, I'm sure you find that kind of corollary in that. If you understand fundamental mathematics, I'm sure you find the same thing. That when you begin to realize the outlandishness of the whole thing, in relating with the nonexistence, then finally you come back to that particular point -- which is still nonexistence. But it's a \"capsule\" of nonexistence, at the same time. If you're a philosopher, you might have difficulty; or if you're a psychologist, you may have a *greater* difficulty to understand this, because doesn't make any sense, simply. [laughter] But maybe if you are mathematician or scientist, biologist, in highest level, you might have some understanding of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1867.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the hinayana approach of transplanting the buddha nature in us. It's not really actually transplanting, but it's just simply acknowledging the dispersed situation that we have. We seem to be so scattered completely, utterly. But then there's some element of solidness comes with that scatteredness coming at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have good questions, you're welcome. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=1996.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes Rinpoche, this goes back to the very beginning, when you were speaking of Buddhism in relationship to other religions, and the-- I think the uniqueness of Buddhism, in that it has not found any companion religions. I was just curious in what way you saw, if any, a relationship between Buddhism and Taoism, Chinese Taoism? I've never totally considered Taoism to be theistic, so I was just wondering if you could comment on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, Taoism supposedly is the kind of Buddhist portion of... some kind of laymanship. That Buddhism supposed to be holy, but Taoism not particularly concerned about holiness. But it's being precise and true in its own dignity. So we could say Taoism is maybe something connected with the idea of good citizenship, and Buddhism is a kind of religion aspect of *that*. Which is extremely much-- extremely close, and definitely so. And connected with the idea of a way, and a concept of reality, in its own right rather than profundity of anything. But the latest Taoists seem to have a problem there, that they begin to worship the truth. The later schools of Taoism, and have a sense of that the truth had to be admired and worshipped and made into god. But I think the basic early schools of Taoism in its purity, is maybe... brother-in-law.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thanks, brother-in-law. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2037.0,2176.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a young man in the back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: My experience of that nonexistence is-- has mostly come from sitting, sitting practice. And it doesn't have much to do with-- for me with actual whether I physically exist. I mean, I have the-- sometimes had a experience of feeling like I don't exist, that there's nobody home, or no one running the show. But at the same time I know that my body is here; it's sort of not exactly my body but it's not my mind either. And so I was wondering how that relates to what you were saying--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --relates very well. Relates with perfectly well. But you have to work your sitting practice with the... experiencing everyday life... hassles, at the same time. And the more one experiences the truth of hassle that exist around one, that you begin to realize the sitting practice is also heightens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2176.0,2291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, would you say something more about the continuity of nonexistence, what that is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's what it is. It doesn't really exist, therefore it is continuity nonexistence. Because you can't put any particular effort or energy into it, per se. And it's continually, you know, there's no rug under our feet. It's already pulled out. And the energy that exists with it is nonexistent as the rug on the floor or the ground continues further, as inspiration, as insight, rather than hassle.\r\n\r\n\r\n[in Spanish] Comprendo? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2291.0,2365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, it seems like there's a content-- [laughter] it seems like there's also a continuity of believing in existence, or believing in the solidity of ourself somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seems to be the wrong end of the stick, say the least. And that belief doesn't exist very long. Because that for one thing it's a belief; for second thing it's a belief that founded on nonexistence concept, nonexistence metaphor -- or *realities*, shall we say. Basically we don't exist. We don't -- as *such*. [laughter] That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2365.0,2432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: At the same time, Rinpoche I feel like something is happening. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah. Between birth and death, the-- something is taking up space--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --[whispering] of some kind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Between birth and death, that we have sickness and old age. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yay! [laughs; laughter] Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: According to the Buddha, by the way. [laughter] Anything else[INAUDIBLE]? [laughter] Please don't be shy. If you want to say more, you're welcome. Do you want to? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I feel sometimes when I'm sitting, and after sitting -- being alive. A sense of no-hurry, but a sense at the same time: every moment, there's a moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How about exertion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And there's some exertion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope more than some.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But maybe-- hmm? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope more than some.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [laughs] Well, there's a lot of aggression, lots of [laughs] times.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that could be transmitted as exertion-- transmuted.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, everything that goes on between our birth and death is basically expressions of old age and sickness, that our body is decaying all the time. But at the same time, that's just a superficial vision. What happens in our mind, there is still continuity of some kind of spark, clarity, takes place. And such spark of continuity and clarity can't be indulged, with just sense of that alone; and had to be related with some kind of disowning each minute, every minute. That your experience may be great, fantastic -- you might had a conversation with the Buddha himself, the other day -- but still, that had to be disowned as your fantasy. So disowner-ship seem to play a very important part. We can't deceive ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nKeep doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I agree.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2432.0,2641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Curly hair, black hair?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are the...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Keep going.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are the deities used in tantra regarded as just self-destructing devices?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so. Ego-self, right? Yeah. They are devices that you can't watch your own attainment of enlightenment. That you can't watch your own death of ego, and take part in the burial service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2641.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [off microphone] You can or you can't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could you have a microphone? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You can or you can't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, just a minute. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said you can or you can't take part in your own burial, and watch your own burial?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Guess what? [laughter] Just pure guess.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I bet that you can't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! [laughter] You got it. You been long enough around Buddhism, you should know that! [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [indistinct chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2708.0,2763.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is this on? It's not on. [tapping microphone]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: It's on. It's on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It's on? Okay. Is the kind-- is everyday, sort of, mental confusion, and psychological confusion and disorientation a manifestation of our nonexistence? Is it the same as our nonexistence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's expression of nonexistence -- yeah, definitely. But I wouldn't say that a lot of them are basically *it*, as a final nonexistence. But it is glimpse of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm getting the feeling that when I'm confused, or disoriented, that I'm-- that that experience is somehow more real than the times when I'm sure of myself. Is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That sounds good. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [laughs] I'm not sure it feels good.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't make you feel good particularly, no, but that's how Buddhism goes, I'm afraid. [laughter] We are not promising any promises, and a good happiness, or eternity or anything. It's a \"damn religion.\" [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2763.0,2863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady at the back?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you comment on the relevance of reincarnation as [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you comment on reincarnation in terms of nonexistence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well nonexistence is a part of expressions of rebirth. But we have difficult using word \"reincarnation,\" which automatically means \"continuity.\" But in terms of rebirth, that if you're reborn again and again, that's expression of discontinuity. If you are impermanent, that means you're keep occurring all the time. Again and again. You see the logic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE] [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you don't, your pulse in your body stop and start, stop, start, pulsating. And when you stop pulsating, you know, that's expression of death; you start, expression of life. So life can't exist without death; death can't exist without life. So expression of that keep on continuing. So the reincarnation process, rebirth process, is like a pulse moment. That death produces birth, birth produces death constantly. And psychologically, that after death, physical death, that the memories and the concept that still continues that way. Because they are much more refinal-- refined, and very *subtle* level, start continuous all the time. It's very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2863.0,2993.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, you talked about the joke that we all have been dealing with all along. And, well in terms of our material survival, you know -- food, shelter, jobs, and so on -- how do we deal with that joke? I mean, do we play the game, and know it's a joke? Do we not play the game?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think you have-- you could have a policy about the joke. If you have the policy about the joke, the joke is going to be much more powerful than what you think of your policies. Each policy becomes a big joke already. [laughter] So the idea is the joke is not so much to overcome the joke, but just to live with the joke. That *is* the joke.[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [laughs] Oh, it's such a light subject.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ten minutes?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2993.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, are there different types of enlightenment? Say, the theistic enlightenment of the Hindu versus the nontheistic enlightenment of the Buddhist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you could call it enlightenment -- I'm sure-- I don't think we could call it, generally. Enlightenment is based on the idea of nontheistic traditions -- atheistic, nontheistic traditions. But you can call it \"union with God,\" is the counterpart of enlightenment exist with the theistic traditions. Which are just simply that that particular student of divinity actually turn into realization, to their particular maker or their particular originator. But I don't think you can call it enlightenment particularly. Enlightenment is very kind of humanistic term. It would be sacrilegious to call Hindu attain enlightenment, or the Christian attains enlightenment, because enlightenment is a self-styles [sic: self-styled?] discovery. Which is already rejecting the possibilities of getting from somebody else. That is to say, that based on the idea of everything what we discussed about nontheistic traditions-- or theistic traditions, is based on the idea of beyond, or something lower than that of the Gnostic traditions or the mystical traditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=3074.0,3196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58340/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think it's time to-- for you to go to sleep, and get up in time tomorrow to sit. I would like to encourage sitting practice a great deal, a hundred percent participation, if not two hundred percent. [laughter] And particular concept and idea of this particular ITS is the idea of that you could take part completely and properly, so that study does not become purely entertainment; it become part of your lifestyle while you're here. That you have only three days to live your particular lifestyle here. And make yourselves very comfortable and take care of yourselves and have lots of sleep, if you can. And take care of your body. Don't get yourself too cold and so forth. [laughter] So you will be fit to sit, and *listen* much more. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=3196.0,3261.59956"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19751010VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=0.47,2.819"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nThe Discovery of Buddha Nature:\nThe Mahayana Path,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=3.94,7.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Padma Jong\nin Dos Rios, California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=7.96,10.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number one,\nOctober 10th, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=12.83,16.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made August 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=17.42,21.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis is talk, number one,\nin seminar on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=23.72,27.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Discovery of Buddha Nature,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=27.46,29.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given by\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=31.12,33.857"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Padma 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everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=55.76,57.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm glad you're able\nto make up at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=63.76,69.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems to be very\nimportant -- can you hear 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Ego-self, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2682.82,2688.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. They are devices\nthat you can't watch your\nown attainment of enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2690.25,2696.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you can't watch\nyour own death of ego,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2702.51,2704.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and take part\nin the burial service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2706.17,2708.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2708.66,2711.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: [off microphone]\nYou can or you can't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2711.15,2715.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nCould you have a microphone?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2717.2,2719.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: You can or you can't?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nNo, just a minute. 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[laughter]\nJust pure guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2732.96,2737.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8:\nI bet that you can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2737.7,2740.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it!\n[laughter]\nYou got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2741.71,2746.201"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You been long enough around\nBuddhism, you should know that!\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2746.201,2752.726"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: [indistinct chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2756.815,2770.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9:\nIs this on? It's not on.\n[tapping microphone]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2770.16,2773.371"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE:\nIt's on. It's on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2774.03,2775.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9:\nIt's on?\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2775.24,2776.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is the kind-- is everyday,\nsort of, mental confusion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2777.53,2784.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and psychological confusion\nand disorientation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2784.23,2787.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a manifestation\nof our nonexistence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2788.94,2792.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is it the same\nas our nonexistence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2792.11,2794.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThat's expression of\nnonexistence -- yeah,\ndefinitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2797.0,2800.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I wouldn't say\nthat a lot of them\nare basically *it*,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2801.38,2805.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a final nonexistence.\nBut it is glimpse of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2806.97,2811.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9:\nI'm getting the feeling\nthat when I'm confused,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2813.1,2817.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or disoriented,\nthat I'm--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2818.76,2821.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that that experience is\nsomehow more real than the times\nwhen I'm sure of myself. 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That sounds good.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2828.15,2831.895"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: [laughs]\nI'm not sure it feels good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2831.895,2834.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nIt doesn't make you\nfeel good particularly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2835.51,2838.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no, but that's how Buddhism\ngoes, I'm afraid. 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Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2872.06,2873.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Would you comment\non reincarnation\nin terms of nonexistence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2873.3,2877.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell nonexistence is a part\nof expressions of 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\"continuity.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2889.08,2892.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in terms of rebirth,\nthat if you're reborn\nagain and again,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495#t=2893.55,2898.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/108209/file/209495/transcript/58341/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's expression\nof 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