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Begins with details of Mahavairochana visualization. Having discovered transmutation of energy, one experiences the immense purity, immaculateness, and cleanliness of this yana. No room for doubt. Mistaken view of crudeness of samsara as being tantric; description of misperceptions of tantric path, which can actually strengthen ego. Visualization needs to be founded on the sense of egolessness realized in previous yanas; meditator flashes on own nonexistence when visualizing. Visualization practice and vajra pride, sense of identifying with the deity’s qualities rather than viewing deity as an external entity; view of oneself as the deity rather than being like the deity.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Dawn of Tantra","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part Two, Chapter 6: Introduction to Tantra\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE DAWN OF TANTRA: Chapter 8: Visualization\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-dawn-of-tantra-470.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 23 2025 to Dec 03 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting, Nancy Roberts Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eKriyayoga, the fourth of the nine yanas, and the first of the three lower tantra yanas. Begins with details of Mahavairochana visualization. Having discovered transmutation of energy, one experiences the immense purity, immaculateness, and cleanliness of this yana. No room for doubt. Mistaken view of crudeness of samsara as being tantric; description of misperceptions of tantric path, which can actually strengthen ego. Visualization needs to be founded on the sense of egolessness realized in previous yanas; meditator flashes on own nonexistence when visualizing. Visualization practice and vajra pride, sense of identifying with the deity\u0026rsquo;s qualities rather than viewing deity as an external entity; view of oneself as the deity rather than being like the deity.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766091786_19730523vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":4678.01825,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/062/original/1766091786_19730523vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1766091787","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4678.01825,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730523VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730523VCTR1 - Public Seminar - San Francisco - The Nine Yanas I - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Public Seminar entitled, \"The Nine Yanas I,\" held in San Francisco, California. This is talk number six, \"Introduction to Tantra,\" recorded on May 23rd, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster made May 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=0.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On the disk of an autumn moon, clear, pure, that you transplant a seed syllable. Cool blue rays of seed syllable radiates immense cooling compassion. That radiates beyond limit of sky or space and fulfill the needs of sentient beings' desire. And radiate basic warmth, that the confusions may be clarified. And then you create, from the seed syllable, a Mahavairochana Buddha, white in color, the feature of an aristocrat. With the age of eight years old child. Beautiful, innocent, pure, powerful, royal gaze. Dressed in the royal costumes, that of the Veda age, or the medieval Indian costume, royal costume. Wearing glittering gold crown inlaid with wish-fulfilling jewels. And half of his hair, long dark hair, is made into a topknot, with an ornament of glittering blue diamond. And the other parting is floating on his shoulder and on his back. And he is seated cross-legged on the lunar disk, with the meditation mudra, holding the vajra symbol in his hand, which is carved out of pure white crystal.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat do with that? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=31.0,292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole setting is uncomplicated, but at the same time immensely rich. There's a sense of dignity, and also there's sense of infanthood, of purity. That irritatingly pure, irritatingly cool. Even one feels good think about such thing-- such person. And that is the symbol of kriyayogayana, of first tantric yana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=292.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we have dis-- as I am describing the presence of Mahavairochana, that seem to be real in our mind. That there could be such situation exist. The royal prince of eight years old, sitting dignified way, on a lunar disk, and he was born out of seed syllable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=365.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That basic principle of kriyayoga is that of purity, immaculateness. The kriyayogayana prescribes, having discovered the transmutation of energy, having discovered all-pervading delight, that there's no room for impurity. There's no room for darkness. The reason why is because that there's no doubt. *Finally*, at last, we have managed actualize the tathagatagarbha, buddha nature. We have managed to visualize, we managed to actualize or formulate a most immaculate, pure, clean, beautiful, white, spotless principle. Which is absolutely necessary, at this point, point of reference of kriyayoga tantra. Because the ruggedness, confused, unclean and impure elements of the struggle of samsara has gone long way from us. At last we are able to associate with that which is pure, clean, perfect, absolutely immaculate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=433.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interestingly that leaves us that we do not have a chance to create our visualization as pop art. It is quite different, that if we confiscated a street sign in Paris and brought back to America and paste on our wall, which might say whatever, \"La Rue Royale\" or whatever. [Laughter] Something crude about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=608.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the first tantric introduction to any practice is therefore majestic, and fantastically precise, and pure, clean -- artful as well. In some sense we could say that the kriyayoga tantra is that of the tantric equivalent of yogachara, of artful, work of art. Appreciation of purity and cleanliness, cleanness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=693.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That one of the problems that tantra brings out, and point out to us, that we be relating the samsara as-- even if we might accept the samsara as a working basis, we been regarding it as pop art. The crudeness is the fun. Whether we relate with sexuality, or aggression, or whatever tantric elements, that element we're talking about. But general attitude that we generally get is that tantric approach to life -- tantric view of sex, tantric view of aggression, and ignorance so forth -- are acceptance of the crudeness as being big joke, good fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=744.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is one of the basic point that we should understand. As an example of kriyayoga tantra yana. That tantra does not begin as we have to live with the death or make best of it. That tantra is regarded as self-secret teaching; therefore tantric teaching-- or the practitioners or the teachers of tantra are not all that desperate to con you. That we have to make a mess as mess of the confusion, mess of the confusion, as something livable, workable. Cover up your pile of shit, and think as it's nice earthy soil that you're fresh-- that you're sitting on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=803.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be some kind of misunderstanding toward tantra. Is that tantra came to being because of desperation. That we can't handle our fucked up-ness, or the shit that we are in it. Therefore tantra is the saving grace. That shit becomes pictorial, artistic pop art. And tantra at last acknowledge that; that there is formally, legally, that tantra acknowledges that we should put up with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=871.0,906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which presents another problem. Is if tantra as such, purely willing to put up with it those problems alone, without seeing its purity and cleanness of it, then tantra becomes another depression. And also tantra becomes uncompassionate.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Microphone noise for about 30\r\n\r\n\r\nseconds]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=906.0,967.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A lot of the views about tantra is that people will regard the crudeness and clumsiness is accepted as logistic, legalistic in the spiritual picture. So therefore we can be crude and dirty. And we could jump into tantra, by being dirty and crude. And we can take pride in it, that we could freak out in the crazy wisdom, so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=967.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As much as bodhisattva, or the bodhisattva's path, or the person who is in bodhisattva's path are good citizens, yogis are also equally extremely good citizens as well. By no means they are regarded as freaks, or the hippies of the society -- if I could use such language. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1001.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a problem here about visualization practice and formless meditation practice, in tantra, which I might bring out, before-- since we are going to discuss a great deal about tantric traditions in next four days or so, three days. The idea of visualization from tantric point of view, that it is not so much of visualizing, or fantasizing a form, image, object. And it seem that student have to be perfectly clear, definitely sure, that what particular tantric stages that they are involved: whether their practice is that of kriyayogayana, or upayogayana, mahayogayana, and so forth. Person have to develop definite attitude, understanding: the very basic point of visualization has to have some growth and evolutionary process with their practice, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1049.0,1129.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from the point of view of kriyayogayana's idea of visualization is concerned, still, needless to say that a practitioner of kriyayoga also should have gone-- they should be– they're demanded to go through that of the hinayana understanding of pain, suffering, impermanence, egolessness, and whole thing. And moreover they should have some kind of understanding of the structure of ego, of the pratyekabuddhayana level as well. And moreover that student of tantra should *also* have some understanding of shunyata principle, and its application of the six bodhisattvas' practices, or the ten paramitas of bodhisattvas' practices as well. By no means you're expected to be complete perfectionist on any of those levels *necessarily*, but at least there should be some glimpse as to that you have trod on those three yana stages of path, before you trod on the tantra, which is absolutely necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1129.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the critiques of tantra, a Nyingmapa teacher speaks of, that relating with the tantric visualization is equal to going to bed with a pregnant tigress. That she might get hungry in the middle of the night and begin to-- decide to eat you up. Or she might begin to nurse you and create this warmth, and textural, spacious, furry. [Laughter] And the kriyayoga tantras text of Vajramala speaks of those who have had misleading views on the visualization. Instead of attaining a Vajrasattvahood, they begin to attain Rudra. Rudra in this case meaning the highest attainment of egohood, the big cosmic monster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1210.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So a lot of tantric scriptures warn us [about] misled visualization and complete proper visualizations. The misled visualization is that of that visualizations are purely become mind objects, mental objects; that you create your own image, out of wishful thinking. That you-- in the middle of your practice of meditation, you get sexual fantasies of all kinds, then you decide to go through the all details of sexual fantasies -- stage one, stage two, fourth, fifth -- and trying to make the details entertaining as much as possible. And that applies to same thing in tantric visualizations: that even if you visualize a simple Mahavairochana infant sitting on a lunar disk, the same problem. That you're recreating your image, your mental images, which is resulting at the end as cosmic ape. That, \"I am Mahavairochana. And I am one with it, therefore I could become one.\" In the fashion of \"I am what I am.\" Sense of beast, of a powerful chest of a cosmic gorilla. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1312.0,1466.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Visualization principle had to be inspired with a sense of hopelessness, egolessness, which is saying the same thing. That you can't con yourself, let alone your friends. That there is a desperation of losing your territory, your ground. The carpet is pulled under your feet. That you are suspended in the nowhere. You have a understanding of the egolessness, the formlessness, impermanence, so forth. And the sense of nonduality, that the barrier between you and others also don't exist. So you are-- have complete comprehension, not necessarily *all* the time, but at least a *glimpse* of it. That there's a sense of that you can flash your nonexistence, shunyata, egolessness, and *then* you can visualize, which is extremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1466.0,1526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That traditionally, when vajrayana teachings are brought to Tibet, the teaching was brought to begin with, surrendering. That Atisha Dipankara who brought-- who actualized Buddhism, Buddhist practice in Tibet, that he was known as the Indian master who propagate the teachings of being a refuge. He is known as \"the refugee teacher\" in Tibet. Because he advocated so much of surrendering, giving, opening, and giving up holding on to something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1526.0,1587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that the point of-- before we start the visualization as such, that we have to use up all our mental gossip, or at least we take out the corner of it. Which doesn't mean to say that you have to achieve the state in which that there's no mental gossip *at all*, but at least you're approaching towards it. So therefore the first starting point of practicing \"anapanasati\" of breathing and \"satipatthana\", as known as the Pali language, or \"smriti patthana\", Sanskrit. The development of awareness, development of mindfulness. And \"shi-ne\" [shamatha] and \"lhaktong\" [vipashyana]. And \"trenpa nyewar jokpa\", which are known in Tibet, are important. That without awareness of resting your heart -- which is literally means-- \"trenpa\" means \"recollection,\" \"nyewar jokpa\" means \"completely resting\" -- without trenpa nyewar jokpa, that there's no way of beginning the basic visualization of tantra *at all*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1587.0,1674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having had those basic foundations, and then a person begin to realize the reason why the such emphasis is made on the purity and cleanness, immaculate quality of Mahavairochana visualization, sitting on a lunar disk, and born out of seed syllable is-- becomes more impressive, highly impressive. In fact that particular buddha, sambhogakaya buddha becomes *so* beautiful, because you are unbiased to begin with, therefore if something comes out of unbiased level then whole thing becomes so *expressive*, so *fantastic*. And it's double purity, or hundred percent purity, shall we say. The purity never need to be washed, or bathed, cleaned out. And even never need to have gone through washing machine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1674.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you try to apply Ajax and clean out your dirty image into purity, then you are creating further mess. The purity of tantric view is fantastically *real*. That visualiz*er* does not have to question twice: \"Am I imagining this, or is it really happening?\" Doesn't apply anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1749.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That much as that people who live in New York State-- City would have very vivid and definite recollection of the yellow cabs, or the police cars. Whereas it would be impossible to teach a Tibetan immigrant who never had experience of New York City at all. Not actually immigrant, but Tibetans who are in Lhasa or somewhere like that. That if they want to experience America, to start with New York City. \"Now New York City goes like this. There's streets, there's skyscrapers, yellow cabs. Visualize them, imagine you are in it.\" You can explain it in minute details as much as possible. You can expound the New York City-ness in an infinite level. But still they would have difficulty in visualizing, in actually being-- the feeling of being in New York City; would have tremendous difficulties. At the same time they would feel that New York City as being something of mystery land. There would be sense of novelty. And likewise, that Americans visualizing Mahavairochana, is like teaching Tibetans how to visualize New York City when they're in Tibet. Because they have never gone through that experience, trip -- whatever you like to call it -- that the New Yorkers, the Americans have gone through, as such at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1781.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you might ask, how we do that? Is precisely to go through the three stages of Buddhist practice: hinayana's practice of trenpa nyewar jokpa, the practice of recollection; and the sense of shunyata, the bodhisattva's idea of warmth and compassion. And all of those have to gone through. And then you begin to realize that the purity and cleanness and immaculateness of Mahavairochana Buddha is prominent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1909.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Visualization becomes one of the basic point. Reason why it is basic point is that... reason why you identify yourself with certain herukas or sambhogakaya buddhas is that reassurance; developing vajra pride. Vajra pride meaning this point is that not just stupid pride, but enlightened pride. That you do have those potentials; you are one of them already. So it is not so much of there's a magic in the visualization *alone*, but there's a magic in your pride. Inspiration, if you'd like to call it. That you *are* Mahavairochana, absolutely immaculate, clean and pure. Therefore you can identify with *your* purity, rather than that there is the external god who is pure and coming into you, as a separate entity, a foreign element coming into you. But you are reawakening yourself, as your basic element of purity is being woken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=1969.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be one of the basic point of tantra, is that there's no-- tantra's not regarded as myth, or magic. That tantra is-- has highest evolutional process, in which that whole logic applies to every step that you go through. Which is extremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2043.0,2076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a tremendous emphasis on visualization in the kriyayoga tantra. And also tremendous emphasis on mudras, hand gestures of all kinds. And those practices are regarded as that, mudras are trying to compete with the buddhas, trying to become one, trying to behave like them. Not in fact to *try*, but to think that you *are* one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2076.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The vajra pride is described in Tibetan language is what's called \"lha-yi nga-gyal\". \"Lha\" meaning \"god\"; \"lha-yi,\" \"yi\" means \"of\"; \"nga-gyal\" means \"pride\". That to develop the pride of being Buddha. You are one in fact; there's no doubt about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2121.0,2150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a very important point at the beginning that you *are* the gods, you *are* the deities, you *are* the buddhas. There's no question about that. But before you do that, that there's a problem. That if you don't think you are one of them, then you probably will think, \"I'm supposed to think that I'm god. I'm Samantabhadra buddha or I'm Mahavairochana -- I'm supposed to think this way. And I'm supposed to imagine that this is my goal, that this is the message they're giving to me, therefore I should try to pull myself up.\" And such a thing is regarded as cowardice, or stupid. Quite that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2150.0,2204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to develop pride, varja pride, one has to also realize the pains, the vajra pains that involved, [laughs] so to speak. That samsaric pains, indestructible pains that we involved as well at the same time. So that pride has some valid point to be proud *of*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2204.0,2231.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At this point, as approach of kriyayoga tantra, a lot of emphasis made on sense of purity; fundamentally immaculately pure, because there's no room for doubt. And moreover the visions of phenomenal world from mahamudra's point of view, that phenomenal world has been seen completely colorful and precisely beautiful as it is, without any problems. That things have seen because you have already cut through your conceptualized notion of self, and conceptualized notion of projection. So that there's no reason that how you can't handle the situation, as precisely, clearly as much as possible -- *as it is*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2231.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose that fundamentally that what we trying to develop the understanding of tantra is that tantra is not regarded as by no means pop art. It's very clean-cut, clear-cut. Tantric practitioners also are good citizens, rather than agitators, or hippies, or the dirty hippies, or whatever you like to call them. That they are-- tantric practitioners are *real* citizens who knows the-- who are the good mechanics in the garage, who knows the infinite details of the machines that functions. And clean mind, precise mind. And tantric practitioners are good artists, who paint good pictures; doesn't try to con you. And tantric practitioners are good lovers, that doesn't fool or take advantage of the partner's energy, emotion, but does make love precisely, in its clean-cut level, precisely. Tantric practitioners are good musicians, that do not fool about, banging here and there, but it does it precisely as the musici-- as music should *be*. Or good artist, good poet, whatever you like to call it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2303.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That tantric practitioners are in the world, but in the world in a *different* way, than just getting lots of help by being critical of others, and being dirty oneself. And it seems that's the problem of bohemian artists, shall we say, get away because they criticize other people's purity. They are dirty and rugged, so they take pride in it. So consequently that the people would have some kind of respect, because their negative criticism to the purity is so intense. They can't be bothered to challenge. Or there's no room to challenge, because if you're dirty and filthy already and nobody would like to challenge it, and say, \"What you say is good, okay, come into our society. You seem to be a powerful guy, in our society, and dirty enough. And we accept you. We make it pride in your being dirty. And let's create a poster of you. Don't wash your face. Let's put it 'as you are' -- as they say, 'as you are.' Put them up. Take pride in it.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2398.0,2507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be entirely different, that when we talk about starting point of tantra, is not as sloppy as you might think. It is so pure, and so clean, and so definite, precise. And so well-thought.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that's the introduction of tantra for you. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nDiscussions? If you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2507.0,2556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The visualization you're talking about, is that-- why, why is that [INAUDIBLE]? You talk about a type of intensity that is-- a type of purity that emerges out of unbiasedness, but how can it be pure if it's in a cultural, in a sense of...? Well, the way that you described it [INAUDIBLE] was really nice, in the sense that I can get a feeling of a Tibetan or Buddhist ritual come alive for me. But I-- being in this culture, would that image arise spontaneously, unbiased in me, if you hadn't mentioned that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's already a developed tradition of tantric iconography. And in fact it would be much easier for Westerners to identify with the tantric figures. Particularly the peaceful ones. That they are originated from Indo-European culture. That they're neither particularly Indian style or particularly Western style, they're kind of classical style, of the Golden Age, of the Middle East kingdom, where Western culture is derived as well. But that's beside the point, at this point, it seem to be. Is that idea's being that pure and complete image--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is it necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --*is* necessary. Because you see, the idea is that you are visualizing something which is really pure and clean and complete, to begin with, as introduction to tantra. And later on you might come up with the wrathful deities of all kinds, very gory scenes of all kinds. Nevertheless, to begin with one has to realize the-- how pure you could be in your visualization, how completely you could be. Absolutely completely. Even if idea of purity has been purified as well, when you begin to visualize. That that's the ideal goal. The tantric tradition recommends inspiration of ideal purity -- clean. And precise. And moreover re-- something with regal qualities as well at the same time. That you're pure, clean and majestic, at the same time. So that's why it's called vajrayana, opposed to just purely mahayana, which is a big vehicle, and the vajrayana is diamond vehicle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2556.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I guess that's part of what my question was, is that image that your visualization implanted-- is implanted by particular perspective of Buddhism, or is it something that emerges on its own?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's cosmic. You might have the feature of the person -- it does not have to be Oriental with slit eyes, or anything like that, you know. It's just idea of royalty. And it is definitely necessary to associate yourself with a king. And in fact the vajrayana yana is referred as the \"yana of emperor,\" \"imperial yana.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2760.0,2813.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is this kind of like a samurai in the samurai movie? And he always appears to be in immaculately clean dress, or immaculately together with his situation, on each scene in the movie.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. It's-- you could be gutsy, you could be un-compassion, but nevertheless you are clean, [laughter] and precise. The interesting about watching the samurai films, that the way they clean the blood out of their sword, is very beautiful. As if it's just-- something happens as work of art practiced, rather than this is the blood or a stain, get rid of it. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2813.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, how can one distinguish between vajra pride and Rudra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems to be quite basic. That Rudra is the pride consist of trying to overpower the subject. And the vajra pride is identified with the pride itself, rather than being worried about the consequence of the pride. There's no sense of conquering involved. Just being *yourself* is pride. In the Rudra there's territory involved, as if you are jealous king trying to conquer your territory. Whereas if you're a universal monarch already, you don't have to conquer your territory. But you *be* yourself king, and take pride in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2862.0,2935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is it more than an attitude then, vajra pride?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More than attitude, yeah, it's emotion as well as attitude, you know. It's intuition as well as emotions. That you feel you are cosmic conquerer. And by logic you are, because there's no other world to compete with you. And by intuition, why not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2935.0,2964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So it's something which will happen, rather than you could create?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean you can use the visualization as a means to feel that you are king. That all the Sambhogakaya buddha visualization are referred as kings. They always wear crowns, they're dressed up in royal costume. That you are trying to compete with a king. You are the king of the universe, in any case. And there's no-- either you can't imagine any other visualization referred as subordinate at all. That all the visualizations of herukas are referred as the lord or the king.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=2964.0,3005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It sounds quite dangerous from here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's why it is said that wrong visualization could lead you to rudrahood. Precisely. Yeah, you could get egomaniac. I mean that's why whole thing is very precisely dangerous. If you did it wrongly you could become a cosmic ape king.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Hitler and Napoleon would be examples of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Hitler and Napoleon would be examples of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose so, yeah. Yeah. Goes without saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] king.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3005.0,3046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If it's so dangerous then-- and you have to naturally work through hinayana and mahayana before getting into tantra, why do we, you know, why do we talk about it like this, you know? In the lecture about egolessness and suffering and pain, you know, I didn't feel like I understood anything that you were talking about. And when you talk about tantra, and you talk about it being a spiritual atomic bomb, you know, I don't understand why the seminar goes forward like this, you know? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's good question, extremely good question. I'm glad that you asked that question. It's like this... [laughter]. That if I was kidnapped, and put into blindfold, and put into airplane in Tibet. And if I find myself in the Berkeley, California, and my blindfold is taken out. And now you say, \"This is your world. You have to stay here. Sit in this room. Work with your world, your friends.\" I have no working basis. I have no idea of what America *is*, what Americans are. I'd be bewildered. I'd be completely totally freaked out. Whereas if somebody approaches me in Tibet, saying, \"You're going to go to America, and this is a map of America. And this is mountains, there's the rivers, population of cities. There's New York City, there's Boston, there's Chicago, there's L.A., there's San Francisco. And you are going to San Francisco, which is this city. And the population is so on so on.\" And if I begin to fly, and land on this airport, I'd feel more able to relate with my environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3046.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So these ideas and so on that you're throwing out are not so much the real study, you know, it's just like [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's getting the perspective, the consequence of the practices. That you *are* going to reach to. Our goal is to work with tantra, eventually, but we are starting, as far as the individual meditation practice of the group here goes, it's purely on the hinayana level to begin with. But there are such possibilities. And let us not just make a military vow, what we are doing is good. And that seem to be one of the problems that also Zen traditions faced, is that \"You sit and meditate; this is the only thing.\" And everybody become highly militant, and fierce and aggressive, that there's no other directions, this is the only thing that you have. If I may say so. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3207.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, don't we run the risk of not doing fully the various stages? You know, with sort of one leg over here in tantra and another leg over here in hinayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. We can see what happens anyway, as we go along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3270.0,3304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It seems like this is going to fill me with false pride, or false [INAUDIBLE]? And so what happens, I mean, how do I...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, your pain is real enough, in your life. So that is going to take care of you. [Laughter] Your pain is-- maybe we could say that your pain is in the hinayana level, so that's going to take care of you. But when your pain has become vajrayana level, that's another matter then. Let's discuss later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3304.0,3343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID ROME: Rinpoche, it's not clear to me how the practice of visualization in tantra relates to the way you described tantra yesterday as coming back into the world, in order to-- getting the energy, getting into samsara, dealing with concepts again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Well, it's-- your ambition is to become a powerful king. Cosmic ruler, if possible. Or at least to become the ruler of the household. [Laughter] That tantric visualization is that visualizing yourself as a ruler, the exalted ones, sambhogakaya buddha, wearing crowns, and becoming powerful, holding scepters. Which is coming back to samsara, with a... nirvana inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID ROME: Mhmm. But I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is very ordinary, certainly, if you could say. You know, if the original pursuit is to become ourselves as just abandoned, beggar, owning nothing, possessing nothing, should we visualize ourselves as being beggars? Or accomplish the beggars, wearing ragged clothes, eating no food, being hungry? No, in tantric that-- so, the opposite. You are rich, you're universal monarch, wearing crowns and wearing jewelries, holding a scepter, and conquering the whole universe. That's the point, seem to be. That you come back to samsara from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3343.0,3457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID ROME: But the practice itself, of visualizing, is very unworldly. There's a difference between visualizing and actually being the king, being an absolute--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, but the whole point is that visualization has a sandwich with it. To begin with, formless meditation, end with formless meditation, and between the two, you have the visualization that is happening. Which is also conditioned, it's supposedly conditioned by shunyata experience, in any case. So it is being transformed to samsara, rather than samsara as neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3457.0,3500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you've spoken sometimes about meditation being a process which grows on its own, starting with the initial type of shamatha meditation. Are these visualizations a continuation of that, in the sense that they develop on their own, or are there points where there is outside instruction from the teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that as far as your basic meditation is concerned, formless meditation is concerned, you go along in natural growth. So that you can afford to encompass your visualization as well. But as the visualization is concerned, it's a new technique that is being taught to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So this does-- it *is* something that comes from the outside?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, your teacher might say \"go to retreat,\" \"take a job,\" and so forth. \"Get married.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3500.0,3568.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When you *are* this pride in the visualization, is that like, \"emptiness is empty\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is that-- I was reading something that said it's just like, \"your emptiness *is* empty.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, emptiness is empty, therefore it has form. In the image of eight-years old emperor. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3568.0,3594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seem-- these symbols of royalty and so on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All these what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: These symbols of royalty -- the crown, scepters, and so on, that are involved in the visualizations -- are these sort of symbolic of taking on responsibilities towards beings? Is that the gist of it in a way, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well yeah, I mean that's the extension of the bodhisattva's way. That you are going to take care of sentient beings. But now you are going to be ruler of the all sentient beings. Because you are not discreet anymore. You know what you're doing. [Laughter] And that's taking *greater* responsibility -- arranging cosmic energy structure, as if you are king.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yes it's like you say, [INAUDIBLE] is taking responsibility for a certain field, certain field. Is there a certain field of responsibility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it depends on-- in that case that's very complicated now. It's depends on what kind of buddha family approach that you are having. Which gets as next discussion, next talk, and so forth. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3594.0,3665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, there's something I don't understand: you said that your desire should be that to be the king. Just-- you just said that. Earlier you said that it was considered cowardly and stupid to try and pull yourself up to *be* the gods. I don't see how the two things reconcile.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the-- precisely the whole point. Is that if you don't have the basic framework of shunyata, the egoless practice of meditation, then it would be a pathetic gesture, trying to appoint yourself as king, but not quite making it. Whereas if you have, you know, some kind of basic training, underneath egolessness and awareness of the suffering, impermanence, you don't have to even say it but you just become one. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3665.0,3733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And the visualization is-- it really seems cultural to me. I-- on a-- it's all been brought up on a democratic, anarchistic, communistic one. And an image-- I can't imagine a king other than a high-paid crook, as a less desirable place to be. And as I go, you know, [INAUDIBLE] what the visualization would be like. Or that as a goal, to be a desirable place to head towards. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ALLEN GINSBERG: It's like being-- visualizing being president.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Or he sees it sort of as the-- the king is somehow, he can't see it as a positive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, that's a problem. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Why the-- I don't see a point of being king. Why take on that position?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well what else would you suggest? Don't you want to have control over yourself? Be king of yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it. You could visualize yourself as a king of yourself. Doesn't have to particularly run the whole nation. But you *are* the nation, you are the king. Same thing. Gesundheit. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3733.0,3836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Along the same lines, do you see tantric visualization in America taking a different form than that which it's had in Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that occurred to me, actually. But that is a big theological world [of] tantric masters' conflicts [Laughter] that we have to caught up on. For the very practical reason, Americans are allowed to visualize seed syllable in the Roman letter. Or should they memorize Sanskrit or Tibetan? Is questionable, and I hope to one day, you know, sort that problem out, and make the whole thing into prop-- into *real* thing. Which seem called for: Shingon masters from Japan meeting together, the Mongolian tantric masters meeting together, and Tibetans, and all of them getting together, and to make definite, certain that. Is there any magic in visualizing in Sanskrit? And since the Tibetans didn't visualize in Sanskrit -- instead in Tibetan. At the time when Buddhism introduced into Tibet, Tibet is regarded as the land of the savage. In fact they been called the land of the pretas. [hungry ghosts] They are so poor, and poverty, and not so culturally rich as the Indians, the Brahmanistic cultures. And they *still* visualized in Tibetan form. But certain practitioners would have reactions against that, because Tibetan calligraphy looks more aesthetically appealing, opposed to if you put Romanization, which looks very flat and ordinary, silly. [Laughter] We have to work those areas. I think that's our next project, is to try and find some solution. And personally I am more for nativizing -- make American tantra is American tantra, rather than imported ones. As in Tibetans' day. I'm *all* for it. Including the chanting is could be done in English, so forth. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3836.0,3996.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, are there any Westerners that you know of that are working with tantra, working with these visualizations and so on? And, you know, it worked for a certain number, is that-- that's not the right word for it, \"it worked\", but that it proved-- yeah, that it worked.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, the whole thing is a trial period at this point, you know. The tantra and the visualization trip came about within three to four years, on this area. And still it is area of settling down rather than... improvising properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Does anyone here experience this-- is there anyone who has made the journey so to speak, that has a Western mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Well, the point is any Westerner who relate with the Western mind-- Westerner themselves, is native Westerners, who related with the Western mind. As far as I'm concerned, there's no native tantric-born person, who actually worked with it properly. On the purely the idea of evaluation, or idea of it's glamorous, only person I could come up with is Lama Govinda, but his approach has been very dubious. That he wouldn't commit himself into definite teaching situation, should students visualizing Sanskrit or Tibetan syllable, or English syllable, Roman syllable. And nobody seem to actually relate themselves into that teaching situation as such, as Westerners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=3996.0,4113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What would it be like to have two kinds of [INAUDIBLE]? In the Western tradition of alchemy, there is a visualization-- there are-- I don't know if there's a-- this is -- they can't be the same... Again, there's a visualization of a king. There's a visualization of a whole pantheon, of aspects of self: the king, the queen, the coming together of a brother and sister. Which to me relates-- it's difficult to see-- I mean, from West-- from, you know, having a question about these things. They're very Western, but I don't see them, the symbolism, as any different from the symbolism as being presented in tantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean there is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Other than the names.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure there is-- there’s automatically the Western equivalent of tantra that has been happening. And there is also kind of similar link that the Christ is referred as the king. The Christ principle is referred as conqueror or the king, and so forth. But in terms of practical application, of how the Buddhist students could work with those symbolism: should we visualize the Mahavairochana as a medieval Indian costume, or should we regard as-- meditate as, visualize as medieval Western?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Alchemy would be a Roman king.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, Roman king, yeah. Yeah, should we, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I mean, is there something we-- is there something in the West, these things that are s-- very powerful images, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there is. I think there is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But the problem is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --without making this [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you see the problem is that we get more complicated when we begin to visualize the wrathful deities -- with so many arms, so many eyes, so many heads. [Laughter] And that's get to become complicated. There's the-- Western culture hasn't been outrageous as enough to visualize a person with so many arms, so many eyes, eating you up, on the spot. [Laughter] And the whole thing becomes so generous, and so kind, you know, cultured. That's becomes the problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ALLEN GINSBERG: In Bosch and Bruegel there are similar deities.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] I hope so yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4113.0,4270.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, what-- could you explain how this type of practice, you know, the conception of oneself as king of oneself relates to a bodhisattva's aim of working for the benefit of all sentient beings? I don't really understand it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's switching altogether, is that bodhisattva work with all sentient beings as a servant. But now the servant begin to take over. And the servant begin to run the whole show, as a revolutionary government. Which is entirely different switch. That's why there's a big gap between bodhisattva and tantra. And a lot of people begin to complain about the whole thing. That the bodhisattva practitioner do not really understand the consequence of power, and *vajra* power. Which is unheard of. And, as I mentioned last night -- I think I did -- about Conze's ideas, that he is terrified by the idea of tantra in fact, because of all those principles. That, how could such king idea introduce in the Buddhist idea? Because Buddhism-- Buddhists are so kind, and sociologically-oriented. And *kind* people. Who would never think of ruling country, but purely *serving* country. And those seem to be problematic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4270.0,4364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You mentioned also that, I think a couple of days ago, that the teacher, is, you know, the guru, at some point is going to mess around with your life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Does that come from tantrism? I mean the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's mahayana idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That's mahayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's mahayana. I mean, that's the saving grace. In fact, if you are tantric logician who trying to refute with mahayanists, you could pick up those points, say that the mahayana teachers also minds students' business. So therefore that either could be brought up as being the ruler rather than purely a nosy friend. [Laughter] I mean those are the links that does exist. We should tell Conze about that. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4364.0,4424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Does one kill Rudra with a sword, or do you let it die a natural death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Does one kill Rudra with a sword, or does one let it die a natural death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. Sword *is* natural death. [Laughter] [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4424.0,4454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do you see Don Juan at all as a Western tantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see Don Juan as a Western tantra of the yogacharan school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4454.0,4469.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Along the same lines, I think it was Shunryu Suzuki, who wrote ZEN MIND, BEGINNER'S MIND, talks about any particular method has its limitations, as a technique. He said if you do not realize the limitation of a particular method in which you are involved, that some day you're going to face a very-- the sense of a very deep depression, very bleak outlook.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Some-- the ground's going to fall out from underneath you. And that's-- along that lines, what do you see as the limitations of the tantric view of Buddhism, viewpoint? And is there-- do you think there's another path that arrives at the same place as the tantras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well tantric view is not one solid thing. It has six steps already, that until we get to the maha ati level, which looks down on whole thing as being confused. [Laughter] So-- and the maha ati cannot be attacked, or being challenged, because there's no-- nothing to be challenged. It doesn't advocate anything or it doesn't criticize anything. By being itself, which realized by respective situation, that the lower yanas being simple-minded. I think after that point there's nothing. Tantra is not regarded as one block, you know, there are several stages of tantra anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4469.0,4573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That stage which you're calling-- I don't what you call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ati.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ati.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: \"Arti.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Ati.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Ati.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: At the point where you're looking at, where everything looks like confusion, I mean, like you have a particular term for that. And you call it \"ati\" because of the perspective which you're looking at. That state-- you know, obviously that state doesn't have a name [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You don't have to-- do you think you have to go through a Buddhist perspective, where you call it \"yanas\", which you go through in order to arrive at that state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But if you transcend ati, ati-- maha ati level, then you are criticizing maha ati from samsaric point of view, rather than its own perspective of highest enlightenment. You begin to regress yourself. Like you go up a ridge and then you begin to slide down. That's for sure. Doesn't have to have doctrinal names, or ideas, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4573.0,4653.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Where's-- where does the [INAUDIBLE] mind is based [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that tantra is-- the goal of tantra is, instead of one mind, no mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that called maha ati or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maha ati is no mind, rather than one mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The other tantra is [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Advaita\", yeah, \"not two.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062#t=4653.0,4677.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164316/file/299062/transcript/87916/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should stop that point. In one mind. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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