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Anuyoga, supreme yoga, \"could be regarded as the tantric version of a sieve, where the notion of duality, notion of believing in the concept of even the highest spiritual subtleties,\" has been sorted out completely. Discussion of wrathfulness. Detailed description of iconography of the \"eight logos\". Describes four stages of maha ati, also known as \"the four visions of thogal\". The last of these is \"wearing out of the dharmata,\" or is-ness, giving up even enlightenment: there is no goal, no search involved any longer.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part Two, Chapter 9: Mahamudra and Maha Ati\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 23 2025 to Dec 08 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Nancy Roberts Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAnuyoga, the ninth of the nine yanas, and the third of the higher tantras. Anuyoga, supreme yoga, \"could be regarded as the tantric version of a sieve, where the notion of duality, notion of believing in the concept of even the highest spiritual subtleties,\" has been sorted out completely. Discussion of wrathfulness. Detailed description of iconography of the \"eight logos\". Describes four stages of maha ati, also known as \"the four visions of thogal\". The last of these is \"wearing out of the dharmata,\" or is-ness, giving up even enlightenment: there is no goal, no search involved any longer.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766092991_19730527vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":4768.74181,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/066/original/1766092991_19730527vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1766092992","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4768.74181,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730527VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19730527VCTR1 - Public Seminar - San Francisco - The Nine Yanas I - Talk 10]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Public Seminar entitled The Nine Yanas I, held in San Francisco, California. This is Talk Ten, \"Maha Ati\", recorded on May 27th, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster made May 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We discussed yesterday the yana of mahayoga. And the principle of mahayogayana is introduction to ati, maha ati principle. That starting point of crazy wisdom, beginning of crazy wisdom. And the next thing is anuyoga, which might have some corollary to anuttara, is the supreme yoga, anuyoga.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=29.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea of anuyoga is in some sense quite different from that of the anuttarayoga of the mahamudra level that we discussed yesterday, and before. It seem to be quite different. Anutt-- anuyoga is basically the experience which will sort out the previous hangups of all the yanas and bring about the potential of the next yana, which is ati. So anuyoga could be regarded as the tantric version of a sieve, where the notion of duality, notion of believing in the concept of even the highest spiritual subtleties what might involve been sorted out completely, thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=95.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to do that, that you also have to relate with the energy level of the world, at the same time. The energy level of appreciating sight, smell, feeling, so forth. So anuyoga is one of the most best way of creating *complete* mandala, and relating with completely with the herukas that involved with the practice, the principles-- heruka principles might involve with the practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=186.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in anuttara-- in anuyoga that there are what's called \"eight logos\" -- principles, logos, or the language or the command. Tibetan word for \"ka\", which means equivalent of \"logos.\" I thought that might be the closest thing we could translate, is \"eight logos\" principle. That there's a chart I have made and that is connected with the eight logos principles. And this chart is connected with also the traditional way of relating with the directions or mapping out a-- constructing mandala principle. Quite close to that of the American Indian tradition, that you build your temple facing the East. So this is-- the East is regarded as a starting point rather than traditionally in the West, South. So first thing start with the East, one, and then we go clockwise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=239.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the first, number one of anuyoga's idea of heruka principle. The symbol of heruka principle is a skull cup with nine wicks in it, with the oil. Skull cup with nine wick lamp, with oil. Which is acknowledging the mirror-like wisdom of the vajra family, which is also connected with the East. And this case purity of \"vajra nature\", or cleanness of vajra nature is not manifested as a peaceful deity by no means *at all*; it's a wrathful one. The symbol, or the implement, scepter, of this heruka is a dagger, a *round* dagger, like a pin, with a spearhead. That traditionally ordinary dagger has a blade, one-sided. But this is like a pin, big pin, that pierces through any conceptualized notion of belief. And Tibetan word for that particular mandala is called \"yang dag.\" \"Yang\" means \"once more\", \"again\"; \"dag\" means \"pure.\" So it's \"complete purity.\" Once more having had already hangups of the previous yanas that you have now achieved a first exit towards really-- real meaning of freedom, into the open air, direct towards the outer space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Could you spell for me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yang, y-a-n-g, d-a-g. Yang dag.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=326.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the next development is that of the South, number two, you have here, is that of the \"death\", \"Yama.\" Somewhat it is associated with the owl. Having yellow eyes, and sees at night, has acquaintance with the darkness and death. Quite different from the Westerner's point of view of owl as being bird of wisdom. In this case owl is regarded as birth or death; that that which associated has-- the darkness is owl's client. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is what? The owl's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The darkness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, is owl's client. *Client* -- beg your pardon. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThe death in this case is regarded as enrichment of the ratna family.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Aside] Do we have the magic marker? And can you come up and draw something for me here?\r\n\r\n\r\nNext to \"E\" if you could write a \"V\". Big \"V\". And \"R\" above the \"S\" or somewhere. Yeah, doesn't matter. And \"P\" somewhere there -- \"P\". \"K\" somewhere there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=479.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's question that the East associated with the vajra, and one lamp with nine wicks -- super luminous. Supposedly one torch with a hundred bulbs, eight, nine hundred bulbs, all of them are hundred watts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=606.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the ratna as death. Which is interesting point, that usually we don't regard the death as an enrichment at all. We regard the death as something that we lose, a completely tremendous loss. But in this case death is regarded as enrichment. Richment-- enrichment in the sense of final cessation of existence, could be regarded as ultimate creativity. As well as that ultimate creativity or collective-- collecting process is also deathly, at the same time. So it has two polarities. And by no means this relating with Yama as death is regarded as somewhat savior and safe, but it's both logics used two ends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=638.0,712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then in the West, number three, is that of the padma family, heruka Hayagriva, which is related with the passion. Passion not in the sense of magnetizing alone, but passion in the sense of *proclaiming* your passion. And Hayagriva is associated with the horse. So Hayagriva principle is referred as a \"horse's neigh\", \"the voice of the horse.\" Destroying the body of Rudra and speech of rudra and the mind of rudra -- \"three neighs of horse\", horse's neigh. And the symbolism is red lotus, with flames coming up as petals, burning lotus, burning heart. The proclamation of the passion. And also it's a wrathful figure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=712.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then you have in the North the Vajrakilaya. \"Kilaya\" means \"dagger.\" In this case different from that of the dagger of the Yang dag, of the East. That the kilaya has three blades; one-pointed but three blades coming out. Like a sharpened pyramid, with the three sides. Which representing the karma principle of the buddha family, and also it has the sense of penetrating. The traditional idea of karma family is purely functional, and things fulfilled; fulfilling and achieving things. But this case it is purely penetrating karma principle. Which should not be misunderstood with the vajra's princ-- penetrating intellectual level, but this case karma's family of Vajrakilaya is actually sense of precise, precision.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, could you say another word about the difference between the penetrating quality of vajra and karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The vajra is intellectual, still survey the area. And the karma aspect is penetrating and accepting no nonsense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=796.0,936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you have the fifth one, in the Southeast. Which is associated with the crazy wisdom principle, in this case as a partial situation, crazy wisdom principle. \"Vidyadhara,\" \"the holder of the crazy wisdom.\" And it is connected with amrita. The symbolism of crazy wisdom is the skull cup with liquor in it. [Laughs] [laughter] The amrita principle. That the best liquor can be only brewed by the crazy wisdom people. [Laughter] And there is a sense of transmutation, of poison into medicine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Poison into what? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=936.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Medicine. That traditional practice of that particular sadhana is that an accomplished guru and his fellow sangha get together, and brew a vajra-liquor of eight main herbs or recipes, and a thousand subsidiary herbs gathered together, and fermented in the altar. And raised into-- fermenting to liquor. That every process is a conscious one. That when the person takes this alcoholic potion, that the result is notion of hanging on to any yanas are freed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1024.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel safe to talk in this particular-- people who took part in the understanding the hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana principle, that I think everybody has the basic understanding that they have to go through the whole training, before they begin to \"drop\" amrita. [Laughter] The transmutation of poison into medicine is connected with number five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1097.0,1131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then next one is number six, which is called \"the mother's curse,\" \"Mamo Botong.\" Mother's curse in this case means that phenomenal world begin to take more close relationship with you, your practice. That you are in tune with the phenomenal world, and if you miss in the one second of relation with the phenomenal world, that you be cursed, bewitched. And symbol of mother's curse is, again, a bag full of liquid poison, as a snake as the thread to close the bag. Poisonous snake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1131.0,1202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this whole approach is *so* dangerous, *extremely* dangerous, *and* powerful at the same time; that you can't miss an inch, minute, fraction of inch, fraction of a minute. That if you are not in contact with anything that you could be destroyed, instantaneously. Before you think you got destroyed you are already there, and straight back to vajra hell. That the tantric approach, particularly the maha ati approach is *highly* dictatorial from that point of view and knows no limits; that you are constant challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1202.0,1254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason why the word \"mother\" is used, is that because the sense of mother, or sense of cosmic feminine principles, or principle, is the birth, the seducer, as well as the destroyer. Not in the sense of purely the messenger level of warning, but in actual solid situation, that there's differences between the relating with the boss or the relating with the messenger. And this case the mother's curse is relating with the boss. If boss decide to dislike you, your unskillful actions, that boss could really hurt you. And it could create famine, warfare, madness, and all the rest of the worst consequence that one can ever think of. But mother's curse does not go too far; it is purely facade level, at that point. Until we get to next one. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1254.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is number seven, is \"jikten choto\" in Tibetan, which means, \"jikten\" means \"world\", \"cho\" means \"offer\", \"to\" means \"praise\". So \"praising and offering to the physical world.\" That unless we have jikten choto principle of number seven, that we don't have enough practice to ground ourselves into the world. So one has to praise one's world\" and also one had to offer, surrendering one's service to the world. Which is very interesting point in fact, that that calls for nationalism as well. That of sense of nationalism is important; that you don't regard your country as something that you should abandon, you get rid of, you step out of your country and enjoy another domain, another realm. Developing some basic nationalism. In a sense that place you've grown up, place where you're living, and place you were educated and raised, needs your respect. If you do not respect your country or take pride in your country, that you also can get struck, destroyed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1351.0,1458.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's very precise message, but we have little understanding how to relate with our world, our nation. Americans have problems relating with America. And national pride does not necessarily only means that worshipping the flag, or the grand old presidents [laughter] of the past who, some of them died peacefully, some of them killed for the sake of the nation. [Laughs] And that kind of nationalism is spiritual materialism. And nationalism of this thing we are talking about is spiritual nationalism; that your country and your belongings, where you belong and where your situations are, have spiritual buddha nature in *everything*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1458.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That experience you have, such as like the landscape that you might experience, the beauty of America. Take example America as the basic image: say that if you go from California up to Colorado, or up to New York, supposing if you walked instead of driving, matter of fact, you begin to appreciate the beauty of your country, enormously. It's almost fantastic that, who thought up these ideas of such beautiful rocks could be there, and the beautiful plants could be there, shrubs, and the beautiful cactus could grow. And the beautiful rolling hills, and the beautiful maple leaves, that could churn out by your country but nobody else's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1542.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And very physical existence of American land, of United States of America, or North America inclu-- which we can include Canada as well. Or South America. But this land that you're living on is *extraordinarily* beautiful land. It has glamorous cities, it has the depressions, it has the beautiful landscapes. And everything's unique, that *complete* world. Which has its pride in individual level as well as it has the subtlety in the spiritual implication as well, so your country is really *great* country. There's very little need for take a trip in Tibet, or Darjeeling, to watch the Mount Everest. That's kind of tantric interpretation of appreciating development of vajra nationalism, is what seem to be necessary at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1627.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the last one, which is number eight of this category, as being that of ultimate spell. \"Mopa\" means \"vicious\", \"trag\" means \"wrathful\", \"ngak\" means \"mantra\". So \"ultimate spell of wrathful action,\" which is the final part of it. And this has a sense of that you are not afraid of striking anywhere, not afraid of challenging. That in other word that you are not afraid that if you have to sue somebody, you're willing to do it. In the practical level, that we have experienced that ourselves. We called for-- if you don't sue or if you don't take legal action, against another authority that, economically that we are end up as a zombie. So, we have to take actions. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the definition of that? What's the name of this part of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one, the last one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Mopa\" means \"threatening.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Threatening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1708.0,1821.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Threatening. \"Trag-ngak.\" \"Trag\" means angry, wrathful. \"Ngak\" means mantra. So the whole thing means that the \"vajra curse,\" or \"vajra incantation\" more likely -- which is \"ngak\" is \"incantation\" so \"vajra incantation.\" That we are not afraid to say that this person should be destroyed, or this person should be developed. Not be afraid to say that. Which is an outrageous thing in fact, that-- I mean a lot of things that we come across with these principles are-- I feel that the audience are trustworthy enough to not make into something else. And moreover that audience are consist of good citizens, rather than famous people, celebrities, overpowering-- with ever-- wishful thinking of overpowering the nation. So I feel that there's a tremendous good feelings happening around it. But if you decide to make *yourself* important in a powerful nation, or whether you would like to rule the world, or the nation, that it's too late to do so. You could get struck.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well Rinpoche, isn't it true that tantra really wouldn't be useful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Tantra wouldn't-- I have the feeling that tantra wouldn't be useful to someone with such an ambition, I mean they might [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it *is* useful of course, by no means it is useful. But it's useful in *some* level. That before one use tantra that you have to develop some kind of principles--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --or some kind of training.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But do you-- are you suggesting that even without that training some of the powers of tantra could be-- would be available to somebody?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Available but distorted, and they will be self-destructive. It's like giving a machine gun or hand grenade to kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1821.0,1995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next thing by the way, [laughter] is the number nine in the middle, is the chemchok. \"Chem\" means \"great\", \"chok\" means \"supreme\", in Tibetan language. That-- which represents the sense of \"all-pervading element,\" that-- which governs the whole area. It's like the buddha nature but at the same time not the buddha nature in the things we talked about but buddha nature in the sense of that there *is* also extroverted energy involved with it as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that leads us to next yana, of ati, maha ati. And maha ati principle is-- falls into four categories of stages [of] spiritual discipline. [the four visions of thogal]\r\n\r\n\r\nThe first one is one-pointed concentration. In this case concentration means that sense of actually relating with what you have achieved with those mandalas, the mudras, in the practices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=1995.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the second one is called \"trodral.\" \"Tro\", \"tropa\", which means \"elaboration\", \"dral\" means \"devoid of\" elaboration. So \"devoid of elaboration\" which means \"simplicity.\" That having concentrate on these principles, then elaboration becomes unnecessary. [NOTE: This is from the four yogas of mahamudra and should not have been listed here.]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd next one is \"nyam kongphel.\" Which means, \"nyam\" means \"temporary experience\"; \"kongphel\" means to acknowledge your temporary experience but not hanging onto them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2079.0,2129.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next one is what's called \"rikpa tsephep.\" \"Rikpa\" means intelligence, intuition. \"Tsephep\" means \"tse\" means \"measure\", \"phep\" means \"accordance with the measurement.\" That things are reached into a *real* perspective situation, that you have real perspective in your practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2129.0,2157.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the last one is \"wearing out of the dharmata.\" [chonyi sesa] \"Dharmata\" means that \"is-ness\", of all the dharmas that our life, samsaric or nirvana situation constitute of. So wearing out the whole thing, is that we are giving up even enlightenment. That one of the basic project -- if we could call it a project -- in the maha ati level, that all the practices that goes on in maha ati level, is to destroy the notion of enlightenment, or the experience of enlightenment; destroying them, and alienating it. So there is no goal, no search is involved, at all. And dharmata experience could be regarded as-- also it is called \"the wearing out of dharmata and then unleashed infinitely.\" Sense of craziness, the ultimate craziness who does not believe in even trying to achieve or accomplish anything at all. That usually when we feel crazy, in the simple-minded level, we are crazy because we are-- we have some political or spiritual idea that we would like to-- or domestic we would like to communicate with the rest of your world. And therefore we feel crazy, we feel dogmatic. In this case that being crazy and completely-at-loose, but there's no gain, there's no goal or object, that the crazy person doesn't have to say anything *at all*. Or else could say lots about the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2157.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel that in this particular situation, what we are talking about in this seminar, I feel that we can't go too far with the maha ati actually, that that is as far as we can go. Which means that I wish that all of you could come back, and we could discuss further development of three stages of maha ati beyond that level, which needs some kind of room and space. That it seems that personally at this point that we've been bombarded with all the yanas, that we are uncertain who's who, what is what.\r\n\r\n\r\nDiscussions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2294.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I was thinking in reference to, you know that sense of developing nationalism, say with regard to Japan, that it seemed that Japan's military defeat in the Second World War created a situation that became then very productive, and got a lot of energy. And I wonder if there's maybe not some parallel between that and say, the kind of experiences Naropa had, that he was put through by Tilopa, with that sense of extreme sort of defeat in a given situation. It makes you very conscious of this physical body or one particular trip or another. And that possibly in America then that, as you were suggesting the other day, maybe a self-existing economic depression, or something like that, might spawn that kind of development. Do you think--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think all of those, you know altogether, they have some corollaries. That what we were discussing the other day with Ginsberg was, we are talking about basically that how this country could be brought up as a tantric nation, without being Buddhist, or any logic, any practice. That seem to be the basic point. That there is some psychological development that's needed, and also commitment is needed as well at same time. I think that applies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2337.0,2436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, it's not clear to me how these eight or these nine logos are actually related to by the practitioner?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's very simple, that if the practitioners have-- relating with clarity, and relating-- difficulty in relating with death, and difficulty relating with their proclamation of passion, difficulty in relating with their penetrating new experience. And difficulty relating with your mother's curse, and so forth. That whole thing is practical from that point of view. That in fact you might find to your surprise that you are challenged by all these elements, but you are not conscious of those categories that described in the texts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, does the guru in this case, that have particular practices that he will show that the student, to assist him in focusing on that particular matter or this particular matter? Does it go in an actual one, two, three, four progression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah, or it could be training towards your particular style, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So it must be very flexible and very much--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so, it's-- that's why the *all* the tantric situations, that you need a great deal of help from guru, benevolent dictator, that we discussed the other day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2436.0,2539.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does number eight, the wrathful action, can you run a parallel along that-- along the fact that the warrior, or the concept of the warrior in challenging, you know, things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, because the idea of that if a warrior is training you in dealing with the panicking situation. And that some people get completely paralyzed of the threat, and they can't even walk, they can't even move; they're completely paralyzed. And the wise warrior would hit you very violently, or decide to shoot you -- then you begin to pull up yourself, and begin to exercise properly. So that situation is always possible, that you are too coward; you see the things so clearly that it's-- that's why you're so coward. You have to be pushed, kicked, by the benevolent dictator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2539.0,2607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does the history of Tibet show that the-- this complicated theology is bringing forth-- brought forth many enlightened people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I think so! Up to this age. That I witnessed enlightened teacher; there's no doubt about that. And I'm a student of that. And I'm struggling, as well, to be a very presumptuous person, so there's no doubt about that. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2607.0,2667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, are the elements in that diagram cross-cultural? I mean, they're unfamiliar to us. Is that because we're unaware of it in ourselves? Or because we happen to be Americans?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's very simple, and it has a logic of cultural situation, how tantra could be regarded as outlandish thing in any way, but still it has its cultural. It's like water in fact; that anyone can drink water including of dogs and pigs. Including the Italians and Jews or the Americans can drink water. So it's a transpersonal substance. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2667.0,2718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When you were in Tibet, when a student was like, studying these nine yanas, was he presented with them like we were in the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Presented me with what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Was he resent-- was he present-- presented with the roadmap before he began to study them? Or did he just sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, they didn't. I was highly confused. And I wish that they would do this. And that's why I'm doing it, because I wanted to show it to myself, and share it with the rest of people, and these-- the training program that we had is unorganized, and chaotic and it's extremely rich but, you know, everywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2718.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is vajra hell like?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's pretty hellish, that you can't even think of getting out of it. But when you thinking of getting out of it you got punished more. If any-- there's any notion of duality that you been pulled back, or even notion of \"me\" existing, that you be pulled back, and you be constantly sucked into the pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2760.0,2791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Becoming Rudra, would that be similar to the-- or becoming the cosmic monster, would that be similar to being in vajra hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Similar to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: To being in vajra hell? Are they similar?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Similar to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Being Rudra or becoming--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh Rudra, Rudra is the candidate, [laughter] rather than the participation-- participator in the vajra hell. Rudra is enjoying himself too much. And he have to pay back his enjoyment, by going to vajra hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2791.0,2836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is this-- the one who is in vajra hell or someone who's a candidate for this, is someone who has worked his way through the yanas of the vajrayana, and is suddenly freaked out and, you know, and avoided going up [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think until that person is caught up in the higher maha ati level of practice, cannot be called as vajra hell candidates. But up to mahayana level, that person is still immune to such consequence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So there isn't like a borrowed store, of understanding of people you might think of, it's probably that they're just lightweights--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --like Hitler or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I mean Hitler is by no means fearless. So his pursuit of dictatorial pursuit is just barely in the level of mahayana. He haven't even got to vajrayana; he wasn't able to exercise his craziness, even from Rudra's point of view. It's-- only person I can think from this contemporary world is Mao Zedong, is approaching towards somewhat, sort of mahamudra, or vajra hellish situation, that he going to get a strike.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Might be some kind of situation, like I think of the CIA in ways, in the sense of something influencing the lives of many people, about which most people have very little knowledge. In other words, we tend to think that someone who is in that kind of a place, would be well-known, but not necessarily [INAUDIBLE]. So this person might be able to exercise influence without, you know, being known.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's the danger of it, that there's all kinds of charlatans could develop. That that person could exercise the power, only for three people, and still that person is become the king of the universe, from that level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2836.0,2987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The-- this vajra hell concept is very interesting to me. [Laughter] That number six, the mother's curse is-- you mentioned vajra hell in connection with that it -- that the practitioner's attention as I understand it, his attention wavers for a moment from what's going on. I don't know, is it an automatic consequence he would be thrown into vajra hell, or he-- is he in danger of falling into this? In any case, that happens to us too, if we-- if our mind wanders while we're driving, right, then we run into somebody. Is that like a kind of junior version of-- [laughter] or a hint of-- I mean because perhaps our perspective is limited, the consequences are limited.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. I think so, yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2987.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Binny?\r\n\r\n\r\nBINNY CLARKE: Are these herukas related to as yidams?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Those *are* the yidams. That you-- you have them all, one or the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3030.0,3043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: David?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: These techniques that you've been describing in the tantric yanas, they sound so similar-- they sound like kind of brainwashing. I had the same feeling when I read the book by Blofeld, on tantric mysticism. Or they sound like techniques which you've described as \"neurological buzz\" or whatever, on other occasions. And aside from the fact that you made it very clear that we have to go through hinayana and mahayana, prepare the ground for tantra, but aside from that, is there any real difference between these techniques and anybody else's techniques?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, definitely; that these techniques are so daring, and it's personally so *challenging*. That any other techniques are not as challenging as that, at all -- that they are confirmation, they are creating nest, rather than that exposing yourself to all kinds of cliffs which you can killed yourself. Or bringing all kinds of instrument that you could suicide yourself. I mean, those are so pointed, these things so pointed, and so crude and so powerful, uncompassionate, and wise, that you can not really miss the point. That your fear is always there. That that's the-- where the tiger is getting to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3043.0,3138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sam?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: [INAUDIBLE] you question that the vajrayana path was one that-- that one got on it there's no way for-- that it was direct. How does vajra hell relate to that? Because it's saying that-- and the mother's curse relate to that? You spoke of it being unwavering, the path--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Un-\" what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Unwavering.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: There's no question about [INAUDIBLE] statement at all. It was, you know, direct and there was no obstruction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the other question? What's the other problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Well how do we know-- how does vajra hell and the whole mother's curse business and all that fit into that? It's a kind of unwavering, solid, vajra--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: --force--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I mean how could there be differences, it's so [UNCLEAR: fraught?]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, that's the whole point, that more you grow stronger, that your space going to be that much solid. And you be challenged *how* you're strong. You can't just be born as a solid person and go *on* solid, without any reference point. So those are all the reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: So these are the challenges [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The challenges, yeah. Until you get to maha ati, that there's always challenges, rather than reference point in terms of duality. But there is always tickling, and pushed, and pulled, always happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3138.0,3229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: To what extent do individuals have a choice not to do any of this? I mean, are these challenges inevitable for anybody? Or just those--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely anybody.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --who are involved in the dharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People are facing that all the time in our ordinary everyday life. But what we are doing is challenges have some kind of pattern, and a workable path orientation. So therefore whole thing becomes more acute, and precise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It-- so it's sort of organizing some conceptual kind of system so we can see what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Organize it, yes. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3229.0,3267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What is the symbolism for that crystal ball?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a symbol of dharmakaya and maha ati actually. That things could reflect out, reflect in. That we are not worshipping idol, or a particular form, of the different grace of the yanas, but crystal clear symbolism of space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is that empty, or is it the light bouncing back and forth that happens in there, is that a kind of empty--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, light can barely shine, because it's empty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3267.0,3310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably we should stop at this point, the *whole* seminar at this point. If you have a pressing questions hold it back please, and work it in next kindling night, when we get together next time. As well as your working basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd this audience that, that you were able to take part in this, in this seminar of nine yanas, has been one of the landmarks of my work in America, North America. That you decide to stick with it, decide to work through it, and study it. And we could regard this particular situation in San Francisco '73 -- is it '73? [laughter] -- and 27th of May, [laughter] is a historic occasion. That *true* vajrayana, and true nine yana principle have been introduced in America, completely and thoroughly. And I'm glad that there was no pride involved with the students' part. That people thought they come here because they are personally confused or fucked up, but they are serious. Instead of-- in *spite* of being dilettante, some of them, maybe, but you are being *serious* dilettante. That's the most delightful thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat from today onward that we are approaching towards working with American Buddhism according to the tantric teaching, that you have inaugurated, you took part in it. And *you* made me say things, which I particularly appreciate. That your response is fantastic, and so kind and energetic at the same time. That I'm so pleased that you are witnessing that our participating in bringing tantra in America, properly, healthy, and officially -- according to my boss. [Laughter] Thank you!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3310.0,3482.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there announcement to be made?\r\n\r\n\r\nBefore we close our thing, I would like to still continuously work with the participants in seminar here, and there seem to be some practical advice as to how we could get together. That if you feel you would like to work on your own, you're free to do so. But if you feel that you have some kind of sangha kind of principle that we-- you can share your energy and everything with us, that you are invited so, here we go.\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Right now in the Bay Area, there are two meditation groups which have been formed. We'll start with the first one which is San Francisco Dharmadhatu. All the meditation groups that Rinpoche has formed throughout the country are called Dharmadhatus. The San Francisco Dharmadhatu has been in existence about almost two years I guess, and in the past seven or eight months we've been involved in creating a townhouse situation, re-establishing a center in the city, that would be a situation where people, students, could live and work together. Where people could live and work together. The basic concept behind this would be that the house would have a meditation center, which would be open for daily meditation. And a library and a place for being-- tapes to be played. And hopefully a place where people could do retreats, in the city, which Rinpoche had felt was a very unique idea for it, rather than people having to leave the city to go out to the county to do retreats that they could do right here, where they are, where they are working.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhere we are now, we had one house that was already to go, but didn't happen. This Thursday we're going to see possibly three houses, and make a selection of one to go ahead with. Among the group that-- the core of the group that's sitting here we've raised about four thousand dollars for a down payment. And the houses we're looking at we think we can manage financially. However we do need energy, in both ways; the green kind of energy, in terms of money and help in that way. Which could be arranged as loans to the parent organization, which is Vajradhatu, and to Dharmadhatu, or gifts. The loans-- or the gifts would be tax deductible. So this is a nonprofit corporation.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe other thing we need, which is as important or more important, is people. People's with energy, to paint, work, carpenters who know how to work, people who would just be interested in getting involved, and creating the center and opening it up to other people in the city. That's pretty much where we are right now with the townhouse situation. Anyone who feels that they can take part in this would be more than welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the meantime, while we're finalizing those arrangements, we have rented space here in the dance studio, so that we can again begin with regular meditations, regular group meditations. The basic schedule for that will be, starting on June 5th, Tuesday. There'll be meditation on Tuesdays--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Okay. Everybody got-- This schedule is also posted outside on the wall, if you want to direct-- But if anybody would like a copy of it now, I will try to read slow.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe regular meditations will begin June 5th, which is a Tuesday, and from that time on there will be meditation on Tuesday evenings at seven o'clock, seven to eight o'clock. Meditation on Wednesday evening from seven to eight o'clock. There will be tapes of Rinpoche's lectures and seminars played at eight o'clock on Wednesday evenings. So after meditation there's a chance to go listen to a tape. And Thursday evenings, meditation from seven to eight o'clock.\r\n\r\n\r\nNow, also, with that there'll be-- since... there have been a few meetings here and people have expressed interest and began to work already, doing the [Mudra] Theater Group exercises that Rinpoche has developed. There are people who are wanting to start, and have started actually, regular meetings of the Theater Group. Those meetings will be, to start with, on Tuesday evening after meditation at eight o'clock, for the Theater Group. And on Thursday evening, at eight o'clock, from eight to nine, for the Theater Group. If anybody who would like more information about the Theater Group situation, see Noelle Andrews. Where is she? Stand up. Stand up, please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Jerry, that's all [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Yes, this will all take place right here. See Noelle, and give her your name and address and phone number. And she has more information about how that's to be structured and what the work will involve.\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso in addition to this-- to the regular evening meditations, every Sun-- every other Sunday there was a nyinthun, which is all-day meditation -- some of you have-- did that last Sunday, for the first time. When our regular practice that happens every other Sunday, with that happening. Which starts at nine in the morning and goes to ten in the evening. The first nyinthun in San Francisco will be June 3rd, here.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's also will be a study group -- will the study group? -- will be formed. Probably there will be a study group on one night during the week. For any information about San Francisco Dharmadhatu you could-- Mary? Stand up That's Mary Smith. You can-- [laughter] you can catch her now and give her-- she'll be willing to take your name and address and phone number. Also, if anybody has a pencil now, for any further information about the San Francisco Dharmadhatu: it's regular hours, and anything pertaining to that, how you can get involved, it's call \"5-5-2– [laughter] 2-4-1-6.\" That number again, [laughter] \"5-5-2-2-4-1-6.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nThe basic structure of the Dharmadhatu Meditation Group has been people coming together and sitting together and... From my own personal experience of learning about one another and just-- I've made friends and learned how to relate to people who were total strangers to me two years ago. That seems to be important part of the practices, learning about one another, and in a sense living with one another.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is a point where we all reached a decision to begin paying a basic dues, so that we could buy tapes, send out mailers, contact people, and pay rent for the space, so that other people could have a space to sit also. Right now the San Francisco Dharmadhatu is paying-- people are paying fifteen dollars a month dues. No one's required to do that or any pressure put on immediately to do that. It seems to come-- [laughter] it seems to come as people's commitment grow to themselves and to the group, that that begins to happen. Unless there's any questions that's about--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I wanted to just make--\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Oh that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --in connection with the-- what you were saying, I want to just mention the tapes again, that if anybody wants to make a donation, in terms of having a tape to listen to too, the money that we're taking from those tapes is going to set up libraries, first of all, in various towns, so that people who can't afford it can listen to the tapes. Also we're using the money for transcription work, and in the case of the Theater Group and conferences such as that, support them, make tapes available in various areas. And so if you have to pick up a list, or if you'd like to order from me, or Binny over there, before we leave, if you see anything-- you do see on the list you like, [laughter] thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was just going to ask for the schedule of the Berkeley Dharmadhatu also.\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: That's next. Any questions about the San Francisco Dharmadhatu, see Mary or Noelle. They can help you and-- I don't know where Alden is, or Craig, Saul.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Alden's over here.\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: That's Alden. He can also give you information.\r\n\r\n\r\nNext: Berkeley Dharmadhatu. About two months ago we started regular sittings in Berkeley also. Seem to be a problem for people to get across that bridge on a regular basis. And there also seemed to be some energy growing in Berkeley that people wanted to sit together. So, we started. Right now the schedule is-- for meditation is Monday evenings at 8pm, Wednesday mornings at 7am, Thursday evenings at 8pm, and Sunday evenings at 8pm. Also there is nyinthuns in Berkeley every other week, also. It's worked out, tried to be worked out, so that there's a nyinthun every week, either here or in San Francisco; they should be opposite each other. So that's the basic schedule in Berkeley. The phone number in Berkeley is 525-5257. And people right here you can talk to and see: Mark Szpakowski. stand up, Sam [Bercholz] or Hazel [Bercholz]. Or Max [King] or Lee [Weingrad], he's right over here, assisting. They'd be also glad to take your name and address and phone number. And so that these schedules can be sent to you as they change.\r\n\r\n\r\nBoth of these schedules are subject to change due to the people that's-- these schedules don't work out for the greatest masses of the people they can be changed by the groups. Of the Berkeley situation, also in Berkeley there's a Study Group that's meeting on Tuesday evenings, at Mark's house. And for information about that what's your phone number?\r\n\r\n\r\nMARK SZPAKOWSKI: 549-0476.\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: 549-0476. The Berkeley group is, like I said about two months old and about--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's the address?\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Oh! Right now, the meditation hall of Berkeley is located at 802 Camelia, at 5th and Camelia Street, in Berkeley. And at this point it's open twenty-four hours a day. [Laughter] You're welcome to sit in there any time of day or night.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] and what?\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: 5th and Camelia. Camelia is one block over from Gilman Street, by the racetrack. And that-- everybody get that phone number?\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Berkeley group like we said is about two months old, and we had a business meeting a couple of weeks ago and decided that we wanted to increase our [INAUDIBLE] library. And we also began talking about the fact that we are rapidly growing out-- growing out of the place where we're sitting now, which is a converted garage. And so we began talking about the possibility of buying a house or leasing a house in Berkeley, that maybe would have some living-in facility for some people. Depending on the energy, or depending on the needs of the people who are sitting over there. But also again whether we need a library and a tape library, where people could come and listen to the tapes during the day, just generally have a center. We began talking about that, and we also decided to begin paying dues of five dollars a month, to start on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnybody think of anything I left out, of Berkeley or San Francisco?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Jerry, we're going to have a tape night Mondays.\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Oh right, excuse me.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Tapes are played Monday evenings at Berkeley, after meditation. Meditation is usually is an hour.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: There are possibilities of more study groups. There were two, now it's all just one. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nJERRY GRANELLI: Right. Also, this whole situation is based on the amount of energy and the amount of people who get involved; the more people who get involved the more things begin to happen. So it's depends on us and up to us to get it on, and do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny other question? Everybody knows about the two more public talks? One in Berkeley, Tuesday evening. And I would advise anybody who's coming to that to come early because it's relatively small place. It's at Berkeley Fellowship Church, at Cedar and Bonita. And that starts at eight-thirty. And then the last talk that Rinpoche will give in this area is Thursday evening at eight-thirty at the Unitarian Church on Franklin and Geary in San Francisco. Any other question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: This is more of a personal announcement. I just wanted to say that I just came from Wyoming and I'm moving here. That I'm looking for a job, a place to live, and if anybody has any suggestions [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3482.0,4569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87925/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seem to be necessary to have an encounter with spiritual materialism. It seemed to be necessary to have encounter spiritual materialism. That we are-- we regain our strength, by drinking poison that is supposed to be killed us. And that's the precisely transmutation, this case. That I *hope* you'll be able to treat that organizational red tape, things we have evolved ourselves, I hope you will be able to relate with it friendly. And endeavor is by no means materialistic, needless to say. That you could always try.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I feel very grateful if you could put some of your energies into this, in relating with American karma, as such. That it is extremely powerful that you are contributing to your country, you know, what we talked about the merit [INAUDIBLE] gaining nationalism, and that kind of area. That it's not so much of trying to reform Americans into Tibetans, or the Japanese, or the Thais or the Polynesians, whatever. But Americans would be able to relate with Buddhism in basic sanity level. And these group studies and group discussions, and involved with each other, in practices of all kinds are implements to that. And for one thing that sitting practice is extremely important. That in fact group sitting practice is extremely important. And study groups extremely important as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I hope you able to come take part in this particular big project, that both you and us involved. And by no means this is a humble project; it's *explosive* project. That if you don't want to get into explosive project, then probably get out pretty soon. Before you get hit, in fact, by coming to the seminar. Which makes very complicated whether you can get away or not. [Laughter] But nevertheless, that you *can* use intelligent, to join the dharmakaya explosion. [Laughter] You're welcome to do that! And my boss agrees with that whole thing. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSee you later!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=4569.0,4768.74181"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730527VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=21.66,29.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We discussed\nyesterday the yana of mahayoga.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=29.28,38.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the principle\nof mahayogayana is 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anuyoga.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=88.6,95.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea of anuyoga is\nin some sense quite different","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=95.71,101.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from that of the anuttarayoga\nof the mahamudra 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thogal]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2054.54,2058.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first one is\none-pointed concentration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=2058.5,2065.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case concentration means\nthat sense of actually 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You spoke of it\nbeing unwavering, the path--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3153.19,3158.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Un-\" what?\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Unwavering.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3158.4,3161.656"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ:\nThere's no question about\n[INAUDIBLE] statement at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3161.656,3165.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was, you know, direct\nand there was no obstruction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3165.76,3171.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the\nother question?\nWhat's the other problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3171.9,3173.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: Well how do we know--\nhow does vajra hell and the\nwhole mother's curse business","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3173.88,3178.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and all that fit into that?\nIt's a kind of unwavering,\nsolid, vajra--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=3178.74,3182.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah, yeah.\nSAM BERCHOLZ: --force--\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. 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seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=4728.32,4732.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/943","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which makes very complicated\nwhether you can get away or not.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066#t=4732.3,4736.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164320/file/299066/transcript/87926/annotation/944","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But nevertheless,\nthat you *can* use 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