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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Radio interview on KQED FM San Francisco, show entitled \"Meeting of the Ways.\" The show was taped on May 19th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto-Remaster made June, 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=0.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MUSICAL INTRO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Flute Music]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=25.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nRADIO HOST: Good evening, this is \"Meeting of the Ways\", presented by an informal association of Bay Area spiritual groups, dedicated to the spiritual unity underlying man's diversity. These groups include the Christ Ananda Yoga Center of Shree Yogiraj Evangelist, The Healthy Happy Holy Foundation of Yogi Bhajan, The House of Love and Prayer of Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach, The Integral Yoga Institute of Swami Satchidananda, The Jesuit Community at Berkeley, The Kailas Shugendo Yamabushi of Doctor Ajari Warwick, The Kamakala Foundation of Mr. Torgerson, The Ruhani Satsang of Sant Kirpal Singh, The Sivananda Yoga Center of Swami Vishnu Devananda, The Shri Chinmoy Center, The Sufi Order headed by Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan, The Universal Great Brotherhood of the late Doctor Serge Raynaud de la Ferrier, The Wailua University of Contemplative Arts of Master Subramuniya, and the Yoga Society of San Francisco of Doctor Ramamurti Mishra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=204.0,278.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We offer this program with humility and a compassionate awareness of our own predicament and yours. We're all on the path, on the journey towards enlightenment, and at each stage we must share what has been discovered with those who will listen. The sharing is part of the work, the listening is part of the work. We're all on the path. But where do we begin? The answer is simple. You begin just where you are, then you become aware of the inevitable process of the evolution of consciousness, that daily, slowly, the cloud of illusion becomes thinner and thinner, until at last there is light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=278.0,321.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These programs present a wide variety of techniques. Everyone's needs are different and everyone is at a different stage along the path. Choose what suits you. If you listen to your own inner voice, it will tell you where you are now, and which method will work best for *you* in your evolution towards the light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=321.0,345.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight, our guest is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Rinpoche was born in Kham, East Tibet in 1939. He was discovered at the age of fourteen months to be the eleventh incarnation of Trungpa tulku. From the time of his discovery he was raised to become abbot of the Surmang Monasteries. When the Chinese Communists began to invade Tibet, Rinpoche realizing that Buddhism was doomed in Tibet, fled to India. In India he served by appointment to His Holiness the Dalai Lama as spiritual advisor to The Young Lama's Home School. He spent five years of study at Oxford after accepting a Spalding Scholarship. In May 1970, in response to demand for his teachings, Rinpoche arrived in the United States. He opened the Tail of the Tiger Meditation Center in Vermont and the Karma Dzong Meditation Center in Boulder, Colorado. Books written by Rinpoche include DHARMAS WITHOUT BLAME, MUDRA, MEDITATION IN ACTION, all published by Shambhala and one published by Penguin, titled BORN IN TIBET.\r\n\r\n\r\nWith him tonight are several of those who follow the path of Tibetan Buddhism under his guidance. It's our honor to present Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=345.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: OPENING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to welcome everybody who is listening to this particular program and thank everybody, taking part and bother to listen to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=441.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So-called spirituality in America has a lot of problems. Before we reach to the enlightenment we have to solve problems, rather than we thinking of high hopes and high goals, and so forth. Problems are material existence -- [clears throat] excuse me -- our physical environment, pollution, and so forth. And there's higher problems, there's spiritual pollution at the same time as well. That we have been bombarded with all kinds of spiritual supermarket scene that happened in this country, which has become one of the most greatest, confused pollution that happened in America or world's history. And that seem to be our problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=459.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Presenting Buddhism -- as I am the messenger of Buddhism, and I am to bring Buddhism into this country in its most pure, unaffected, undiluted form. And I feel confident to do such thing. But at the same time, before I march, before I preach, before I work with the people of America, I feel that I have to sort out the garbage to begin with -- if I may say so. We have all kinds of problems of spiritual materialism. Spiritual materialism -- that's the word. Spiritual materialism. Which comes in three types of different sets. The spiritual materialism of form, and spiritual materialism of speech, and spiritual materialism in consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=519.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And form, spiritual materialism of form, which involves that physical situation of trying to imitate existing spiritual disciplines that had happened in the past and might be in the future. That we are fascinated by all kinds of spiritualistic physical framework. Millions of people take delight in costumes, rituals, mantras, chantings, all kinds. I do not say those that are not valid or particular those are unspiritual as such, but seem to be the problem is the user of those methods are led astray. We get completely fascinated by the basic outlook. That abandoning American lifestyle, run away from the world. And we have developed new costume, if not plastic surgery, trying to imitate all kinds of things. That by imitating, simply imitating the outlook or the exterior of the yogis, the great teachers or the buddhas, that we might think that we going to become enlightened being as such. Amiable mate, happy home, quiet environment, run away from the city, rejecting money, renaming it as a [UNCLEAR: blight?] -- all kinds of things that had developed which are escape, another way of copping out. Spirituality from this point of view doesn't rely on forms, figures, and colors, images, alone at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=577.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the spiritual materialism that happens in speech which is an idealistic philosophy. That thinking in a certain high goal, a certain higher ideas, are going to save us -- philosophical, didactic, linguistic, logical approach. That if you are camp ourselves with certain safe philosophical school of thought, we would think that we are going to be saved. Encounter groups, Buddhism, Hinduism, Muslim, Judaism, all kinds of mystical schools that had developed, purely level of philosophy and purely level of promise. Those promises are uncertain because of the *user* of those promises. That we going to develop fixed ideas of dogma, doctrine, by using those set ideas, pigeonholing, that we going to be saved, we going to be rescued from this existing problems that we are facing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=718.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And another situation is that of the mind materialism of the third category. That we tune our mind into highest goal of all kinds, the best that humanity can think of of happiness. That all religions are one because everybody pursues happiness. That happiness the only way, *the* only way. And we should get ourself high, drunk on the spirituality, so that we can forget what's happening in our daily life situations. We could forget money, we could forget the cities, we could forget our relatives, we could forget anything that we are associated with ourselves in the past. We could forget them. We could get rid of them by tuning our mind into highest consciousness of all is psychological materialism, mind materialism. Absorbing into a state of highest form of samadhi so that we could be intoxicated in that particular drug. Is a problem!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=810.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhism as I feel would like to introduce into this country, is I would like to transcend those three approaches of materialistic ideas. Presenting very simply, directly, that physical materialism and philosophical materialism and meditative materialism could be solved if we begin to take look at them and begin to realize that America is so much fertile ground, and so much, so that there is also spiritual materialism involved in America as well at the same time. That's our problem. That's constant problem. We never look twice but we just pick and accept whatever is given to front of our nose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=889.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the first protection from that is developing sense of critical attitude to the spirituality. What does mean by spirituality? What is really spirituality? \"Is spirituality something to do with me being happy, blissful, or what does mean spirituality? Sharpening our intellect and success in business? If I practice such discipline would I become successful general so my warfare become more profound so that I could defeat my enemies? Is my practice of spirituality going to improve my theory so I could do more research in universities, study more? Am I going to become highest transcendental politician if I studied spirituality in this way? Am I going to be happy, successful man in this world?\" It seems that the problem lies in that is that approach spirituality in this point, is that people are looking for ultimate success, becoming highest and most perfected politician or the general or the businessman, most perfected mafia, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=939.0,1051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have to think twice, friends. It's worth thinking twice, it really is. What are we doing with our life? Is the spiritual gambling the same as materialist gambling with our money? That we have-- we thought we have abandoned a long time, that we transcend those. Now we managed to get into another camp, another idea, *highest* idea -- but still we doing exactly the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1051.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm highly concerned about all this problems, highly concerned with all these problems -- extremely. I feel that I have a tremendous responsibility to bringing Buddhism to America, so that Buddhism become American Buddhism, not this fashion of Madison Avenue level. But true Buddhism could be transplanted straight from Tibet to this country without going through too many changes or adaptions but straightforward Buddhism. In order to do that, there need to be certain amount of surrendering from the part of our style of thinking at the beginning.[Laughs] We have to think twice, as introduction to realize the consequences of involving into spiritual materialism is very important, not speak of the style of the teaching, itself, alone. Some of my students who studied with me have involved with this particular problem. And they have worked their way through; they are process of working their way through. And as experimentation, I feel extraordinarily happy that what's happening with those students who actually seriously taking the whole thing as real thing rather than big joke or huge entertainment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1084.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhism, this point of view, is starting destroying the structures of materialism of spirituality and psychological one. To begin with, developing basic sanity, real sanity, basic sanity. And sanity in this case is that person could give all kinds of wishful thinkings, ideas of becoming Superman in spiritual fashion. Practice of meditation, which is extremely important, that without meditation practice there's no Buddhism. Again, is involved in the situation of discipling oneself. No images, no forms, no seductions of any kind, but simply just giving in, giving out, establishing awareness with yourself, relating with yourself, meeting yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1218.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is been said that Buddhism is closest to psychology, and it is also said Buddhism not religion; more of philosophy. It's questionable. Is Buddhism connected with psychology? Yes and no. Buddhism *is* involved with psychology. Buddhism concerns with human mind and its sanity, but Buddhism is not connected with the games people play with their mind. Buddhism is not religion. Buddhism does not provide homey, nesty, comfort that you belong to a doctrine or church in which you can rest happily forever, but Buddhism demands a commitment. Commitment to the point that to surrender your materialistic approach of all kinds. That seem to one of the basic point of Buddhism. From that point of view, Buddhism could be said is a religion. It is definite cult of its own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1297.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is fundamentally nontheistic religion in which make lot of emphasis on the understanding of the hustles and bustles of city life situation are taking in account that you do not give up your daily life situation but work with it. Use practice of meditation as part of that whole thing and work -- you do not give up your friends, you do not give your husband or your wife and abandon your home, but you work with that situation. You live through it, work with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1401.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe you might find more interesting, that to discuss the whole issue of practice of meditation and whole approach that there are some students of mine and some guests here as an audience, and they would like to contribute their approach to experience they've through themselves. So maybe we should open this whole question and you're welcome to listen it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1445.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Don't you need some form of spiritual materialism to begin the journey? Isn't wanting to improve your situation, your lot, sort of the impetus to begin the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that that's why we are on the air, on this radio. There was enough spiritual materialism already happened and that's why this program did exist, and that's why we are here. And similarly, that nobody will come to take interest in anything. But it seems that America is already too advanced, opposed to somewhere like South Africa or Australia, other countries where there is no awareness of spiritual materialism itself anymore. In this case we *do* have awareness of spiritual materialism already happened. That's why we have possibilities of a whole two hours of tele-- radio program which is merit of spiritual materialism, which is opportune situation it seems. But at the same time we have opportunity of destroying it as well -- which is great. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1495.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I think that we practice though-- have a practice because we don't have any choice. That there's something active in us that keeps us, and we couldn't leave if we wanted to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, once you involve yourself there's no choice. That choice become for the shoppers. The spiritual shoppers would have choice for shopping, but once you bought your merchandise in a shop, you took your-- the merchandise, when you take them at home, there's no choice. And similar that that's the point that we have chance to overcome spiritual materialism because we have a choice -- of choiceless choice to overcome them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1577.0,1639.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: My own experience, speaking of choosing, was that having chosen every other -- what seemed viable -- path to deal with the apparent problems of my life, Buddhism is what was left after I'd shaken the sieve off pretty hard. You know, that's what didn't fall through, it's what seemed sane and reasonable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well precisely. Lot of people find Buddhism is extremely dry religion, uncompassionate, does not invite you into love and lighty. But at the same time Buddhism is extraordinary powerful religion because it is highly self-existing, that does not demand target anymore, because looks through all kinds of weak points that other approaches might have been. Other approaches would say \"you love everybody,\" but possibilities that they might not have discussed the possibilities of making friend with yourself at the beginning; or \"abandon the city and retreat yourself in mountains\" -- who's going to feed you, where's money coming from? Those are the problems that Buddhism has looked through. That there is room for workers to develop their energy, and they just don't work in order to feed the highest yogis whose mountain -- in the mountain meditating for you, but you are meditating along with your farming process, as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1639.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, when we first started out, I think most of us felt that spirituality and getting high were the same things. And then as our involvement increased, we realized that getting high wasn't as desirable or as really a part of this whole practice as we'd suspected. You want to say more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the one of the basic point. Maybe you could say something more about that yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [Laughs] Well, it's one of the hardest things to express to people who are not practicing these teachings. Somehow getting high implies that there's somehow this normal sort of drab state of existence that we use as a reference point, and the best we can do is every once in a while raise ourselves above that point before we slip back down into it. But basically there's an acceptance that the best we can do is sort of get a breather away from this very limited existence. But I think it's much more intelligent than that. Like it involves every aspect of our life, it involves so much breadth that-- and the ugly aspects of life where-- which we thought were the last... You know the least spiritual things about us began to seem like fertile ground for discovery and working with things. And so things began to be so interesting. The mundane things of life begin to be so interesting that getting high sort of lost some of its glamour, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's one of the basic point is that there is some sense of becoming more reasonable, rather than that spirituality is belongs to the children and worldliness belongs to your parents. That when you step out of your home, your parents who maybe are bankers or merchants of all kinds, that when you give them up that you thought you managed to unload all kinds of hangups that you might be conditioned by it. That when you begin to step out whole thing, and then you wear white and eat white and clean out everything, that you feel that you are good. You feel extremely good and feel fantastically glowing white. But at the same time that you do have emotion, you do have conflict, you do have all kinds of problems, and purely trying to change the exterior -- alone -- does not help. So something else involved. So happiness is not the answer. For that matter I do not want to say that you know, the misery is not the only answer alone but at least misery makes you think twice; happiness doesn't make you think twice -- at all. You think once and then you -- there you go. You enjoy yourself, treat yourself well, involve yourself a spiritual opium den, *den*.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that's one of the biggest problem that not only that individuals face but it is in the Western hemisphere, that everybody has that problem and looking for the Oriental philosophy and approach. \"In Orient that people move slowly. In the West we move fast. In Orient everybody is happy, in the West that we are unhappy.\" But that's not quite simple as that. There's something more to than that. The problem begins at home, so the solution must begin at home as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=1772.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: One of the problems seems to-- you know we're doing this radio program in San Francisco, and in some sense the Bay Area is sort of the place where spiritual materialism is sort of *king* you know. One of the problems it seems with this approach is that it's very radical. That what you're saying is it's not only a question of giving up things but giving up the need to get things, you know. The need to have emotional security or the need to be psychologically at a place better than where we're at right now. I mean that seems to differentiate, for me anyway, the mahayana Buddhism from almost all the other trips which I've been involved in. And it-- to that extent it makes a lot of sense, but on the other hand you know, one couldn't sort of try to evangelize it. It's very difficult to tell somebody, \"Well, your problem is that you want sometime different,\" you know. And to say you know, \"All you've got right now is where you're at, work with that.\" So it's, you know, it's sort of-- I mean I have a feeling that somehow popularization or something of this whole scene is not-- it's not particularly where it's at.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not question of becoming evangelistic approach that, \"We are doing the best and others are full of shit,\" as such. But the point is that what we are doing here is provocative. That we do not go through the normal challenge-- *channels* of people have gone through, and we do not just be preach the happy dharma, [laughter] happy dharma. But we seem to get into a somewhat more gutsy in some way, something definite.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean the whole thing seem to be is that there is enough materials to undo or unlearn in this country. As I said already if there's-- if this radio program happens in other countries who have already established materialistic problems and have developed their style and they haven't involved into spiritual supermarket enough, that there's nothing to cut down. So you have to preach the spiritual materialism to begin with -- which doesn't seem to be need in this country. And I feel that lot of people had worked very hard, prepared so much ground, in fact extremely luxurious that as if that we are walking on a red carpet place. That somebody had produced already the manure that we could ferment our seeds in it. Which is extraordinary situation. And that's why I regard that what's happening and awakening that's happening in this country is timely. And the reason why that my country has been interrupted by Chinese Communist domination and that lot of us been forced to leave our country and we been forced to expose ourselves are being timely, in fact you could say almost magical in some sense. That does make sense. And it has all kinds of materials to cut down.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat America has so much wealth: monetary wealth, spiritual wealth -- but confused wealth at the same time. That we have to sort out. We have to work for America to sort out what is usable, what is not useable, what should be kept in a safe in the bank for the time being, what should be really used as emergent situations. Is that whole thing is very fantastically rich. So that we can afford to speak out, stick our neck from that point of view, which is seem to be you know, one of the extraordinary situation that presented and also tremendous possibilities in the future of spiritual development.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I'm pretty certain that America is going to be one of the spiritual centers of the world, from that point of view. And it could happen. That's depends on the pioneers' work. If you cut down enough of the weed or the garbage, that there will be enough good gardenings would be happening. And somewhat, whole thing seem to be extremely timely. But I would be extremely suspicious of even being timely as well at the same time. That do not want to sow any further seed of spiritual materialism at the same time. So as you sow a seed you need more cutting down as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=2072.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, you spoke earlier about transplanting Tibetan Buddhism straight from Tibet to America with no adaptation. And at the same time you're very concerned about spiritual materialism and the materialism of form. And it seems there are so many forms in Tibetan Buddhism which belong to the culture and the history and the people of Tibet. How could you possibly transplant it without adaptation to this country and *not* have a materialistic situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that could be done and situation that I have developed myself. Is that if we go back and back, back in history of Buddhism, Tibet, when Marpa the great translator who introduced tantric literatures into Tibet, who are teachers of Milarepa, and if you could look back and back at those particular day, situations, Buddhism was very powerful, up-to-date at those times. And I feel that we could do the same thing. We do not adapt you know, create adaptations in terms of watering down as such at all, but we could go back to the history and present the purest form of Buddhism before the four schools, four sects of Tibetan Buddhism, begin to fight for its power. And we could at least afford to go back to that level and present Buddhism in its fullest sense. Which I feel that happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn fact that is not so much of changing the tone or the changing the style but going back to origin, and that could be done. And in fact as far as our work here is concerned that's happening. That we are going back to history and trying to regenerate, redefine how Buddhism came to Tibet, opposed to America, which is same thing in fact. That America is extraordinary savage country from that point of view, materialistically, and all kinds of aggressions and savageness happening this country; as well as Tibet was very wild and savage country, at the same time. From the gentilities of the Brahman-istic or Brahman culture of India and the well trained -- well tamed -- Buddhist culture of Tibet is coming to this country is similarly, same thing, identical.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd obviously America is a field of tantric Buddhism in fact; not only just pure Buddhism alone but America is ripe for tantric Buddhism. And lot of things happened in this country, is that there has been already preparation of tantric Buddhism, had developed; and upsurge of studies of Zen, which is mahayana approach. And preparations been made already, so that after that there's automatically next obvious presentation is tantric Buddhism, which America is waiting for, extremely thirst, hungered for. But at the same time we shouldn't be too excited about the whole thing, we should take our time. That seem to be the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=2425.0,2654.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, are you sort of feeling-- when you're saying \"timely\" do you feel like because we're here, like we've reached a crest of-- where like, you know, like our lives have reached a crest, like it's no longer TV, you know, where entertainment is sort of reaching its crest? Do you think like in the United States that that's starting to happen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. People are looking for all kinds of other solutions, other way of thinking *already*. For instance when I was working with my theater group, or the-- my ideas of filmmaking when we had the workshop on the filmmaking, that whole-- all of those process had become that there's a tremendous gap, as if that someone's working for new oxygen to rescue you. You try to develop enough avant-garde approach of all kinds of things, but they run out of supply. There's not enough materials to work on. And next thing is that there could be some way of presenting new style, new way of thinking, new way of approaching, which seem to be that of the nontheistic approach of Buddhism -- maybe is the saving grace. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=2654.0,2748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is there anything that leads you to believe that America would be especially receptive or good for tantra, for vajrayana, for tantric Buddhism particularly? The energy level here, perhaps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well it's seem to be as historical in that America has been field of energy, America has been new country. That all this knowledge had been imported from Europe, and Americans trying to imitate European culture. And it has been land of that willing to accept any new approach without being frustrated or being humiliated. There's tremendous kind of humbleness, American, and sort of receptive America which is very unique. America has its own national pride, but it's not on the level of culture and spirituality, but purely it's political pride, economic pride maybe. But those are sort of outlay you know, superficial pride. That American fundamental pride is to trying to transmute any incoming knowledge is coming to your country. That is like European culture, European music, work of art, architectural things, and spirituality. But the style that Americans approach is not in the small scale. That when they begin to import they would like to import big chunks of all kinds. The biggest and longest and gigantic of everything. And they managed to import \"mahayana\" which is \"great vehicle\". [Laughter] Which is good, which is self-spoken, fantastic. And moreover that there's \"vajrayana\", the \"diamond vehicle\" [laughter] Americans want to import. [Laughter] And that's good, you now, that's happening. And it's fitting in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=2748.0,2905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you were talking about relating this with history. When Guru Rinpoche, Padmasambhava, was invited to Tibet to convert Tibet to Buddhism, he conquered the local gods and brought them under the force of Buddhism. What are the local gods here in America and how can they be conquered and come to be, as in Tibet, actually even highlights of Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] I think that the elements are the representation of local gods. The speed of the country are predominately conquered by the pride of the nation, which is local gods; national gods are the pride of the gods. That for a while that American have lost their relationship with the local gods, except those in governmental or ruling class level that American pride has kept. But there's no relationship with the elements, the physical situations of America. And the local gods have their relationship with particular landscape, particular area, in which that local gods are associated with.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in this case it seem to be that the dealing with force, and relating American Indian-ism with Buddhist philosophy, and also relate with American approach of elements. The electricity for one. That electricity is used for purpose of dharma, already conquered. And space of America is already used for meditation has been already conquered. And neurosis of America, that neurotic mind, everybody's problems, are begin to yield towards that process as well. So you have psychological space that been conquered as well as physical space been conquered. And for the very fact that buying properties and American land and spending the dollars on American land for the-- in the name of the dharma has been already conquered. And I think that's one of the biggest problems, that nobody want to spend money for the dharma. But now people begin to spend their money for dharma. And the elements could be used for dharma. The water and the electricity and the space and the land and highways, used for purpose of dharma. [Laughter] And it seems that America has already surrendered its nerve systems already to the-- for the sake of dharma. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=2905.0,3097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MUSICAL INTERLUDE]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Music: George Harrison, Beware of Darkness]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Music: Flute theme music]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3097.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, a lot of people who may be listening to the show maybe have a feeling that these Oriental practices are all very well for Orientals, and may also be very well for the crazies here in the studio with you, but as for them in their fifth story flat somewhere in San Francisco, they can't see the connection. I myself couldn't see the connection and I had read lofty works [laughter] and been impressed by them and yet they remained \"out there\". And I confess that it was hearing you speak which made me realize that this was not a dead tradition but something that was alive, viable, and even relevant to me. I wonder if there's anything we can say, by way of microphones through space, that could communicate that kind of-- the sort of pedestrian reality of Buddhism and of our own basically very simple practice. Maybe some of the people here would like to comment on their own experience in breaking, as I assume everyone did, from the mold they were into, while still remaining in that mold -- suddenly including something that had before seemed utterly foreign, mystical, or inscrutable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think probably I should throw that question to some of the people here who been studying, and in fact lot of people have been working very hard at it. Probably might be interesting. In terms of listeners that they probably would want it: how to begin and how to develop and how they could relate with their nine-to-five jobs, and things like that. So maybe as myself a foreigner as such, that might be good for some Americans who would speak who involved with the practice and scene. Might be helpful, more personal in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3359.0,3556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Perhaps we could talk about meditation. That seems to be the fundamental base of the practice. And maybe we could sort of share some notions about that. My own notions of what meditation is about changed considerably in the last year. And I think that's something which most people here have probably shared. That meditation isn't particularly a way of getting high or getting away from where we're at, but simply a way of sitting down with one's self and getting to know one's own neurosis thoroughly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How does it compare -- since you bring the question up of neurosis -- how does it compare to other psychological approaches maybe that you had been involved in before -- you know, Freudian or more contemporary thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I suppose the main distinction was the notion that there really wasn't anything particular to get out of meditation, you know. As Rinpoche said \"we just meditate for the hell of it,\" meaning-- [laughter] you know, meaning that we just sit with no particular expectation that anything is going to be any different after sitting. And I guess you know that if there's any purpose to our meditation it's just to get to the point where there isn't any need for [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3556.0,3669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, one of the most bewitching things about the Western and European psychological approaches to psychology is that there is this notion that there's something to be gotten at, or gotten rid of. That there is a kind of structure that can be loosely grasped, understood and manipulated. Of course at the same time Buddhism also has its own conceptual framework of how the problems of life arise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But I think in Buddhism the framework is almost of a skeletal nature.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And what psychology does, I think, is try to categorize the reasons for depression or anxiety or neuroses, and once forming the category tries to find the people who fit them-- into them. And once they find the people who fit into them they try to convince the people that they've got that category. [Laughter] And there's a certain kind of game playing going around. What I found in Buddhism is that it approaches the problem of human existence on an open basis, on a-- it cuts through the particular, infinite experiences that each person has had that has conditioned them, and talks about the basic nature of human existence. And what I see from meditation is that the individual meditating learns the processes that bring about the various conditions that he's in.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it isn't a matter of categories.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3669.0,3800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: The other side of meditating for the hell of it is that meditation is fairly hellish. [Laughter] And I think that constant exposure to discomfort is the best defense against the idea of getting something out of it, because all you're getting out of it is that discomfort.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: For me it seemed like there's a transition that happened that I could never have talked about in any kind of analytic way before I meditated. The transition seems to sort of go like this: when I first started to meditate -- and this is in a different technique, a different yoga technique -- I was-- I sort of clung onto the mantra that I was using and using it as a kind of resting place and a security, so that-- sort of like you sort of hang on to this line as you drop down into the deep sea and you sort of you cling to it for dear life. Well later the breath, sort of using the breath, took on that same function. Like I was very concerned to keep with the breath or else I'd be lost in this awful threatening sea that seemed to encroach me. And later there was more and more of a letting go of the breath, to the point that I began to sort to have time to investigate all these complex and somewhat threatening processes that just happen all the time that make up the-- my own neurotic patterns. And then there began to be a kind of interest in that process of investigation of whatever is happening right now. And pretty soon the possibilities opened up that there may be a way of just sitting down and letting the breath happen, letting everything happen, without my becoming a really active agent in sorting things out and putting things in order. That somehow the chaos of just the way things were began to be a more accept-- I began to accept that as more of a possibility. So, it's a process very much of letting go which has different meaning depending on the individual background of each meditator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3800.0,3980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably we should let our listeners to know that how much time you put in the practice of meditation as part of framework of our discipline. And I find in myself that there is enough energy in which that people could be challenged of their neurosis and so forth. That people should be able to have enough time, as much as they have, in just not speeding and spending a fixed amount of time.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe general process that people would meditate for three hours a day -- ideally three hours a day. And every alternative week that they should meditate ten hours, month. And also solitary in retreat, people practice about seven hours up to ten hours sitting meditation practice as long as-- as well as cooking and so forth. That there seem to be the basic point that in fact without practice of meditation there's no point in getting into the discipline at all. That people are pushed somewhat, semi-demandatory [sic] practice of mediation is extremely good, and they should get into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd because they practice, because they slow down the speed of daily existence, at the time of meditation, physically -- but psychologically they are speeded up of their subconscious gossip all kinds, things that happens in their life. So that meditation is from that point of view way of challenging people rather than solving their problem. In sitting meditation practice that you get all kinds of subconscious gossips coming through -- emotions, sexual fantasies and aggression fantasies, all kinds of things coming up. And so meditation is regarded as unlearning, undoing process, as they go along. So, by no means this is regarded as purely therapy. In fact, if we may so, this is un-therapy-ing process; that meditation does not produce medicinal purpose but un-medicine-ly [sic] process that's happening. And which seem to be needed very much. Otherwise we collect so much garbage. We keep on taking pills, shots, medicines, instructions, practices being collected, in so much that we have no way of letting out. Whole thing quite possibly become stuck in that situation. So any listeners who might think that meditation is a tranquilizer is wrong.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in our particular approach here involved is that meditation is a way of relating with themselves. For the first time you see yourselves in its most gruesome or most delightful scene. That's the meditation practice is just meet yourself. And that seem to be the basic point that we are trying to emphasize on it, which is extremely necessary to avoid from spiritual materialism and all kinds of other entertainment that might occurred. And also things might develop in terms of promising that you going to get highest state of consciousness if you meditate, but there's no promise at all. The only promise that you might see your own neurosis, your own garbage, your own shit, and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And that's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=3980.0,4266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I think there's a problem in the word \"meditation\", that it's been used so much and in so many different contexts. That some meditators use mantras and some are guided by a leader. There seem to be many different ways of meditating. And it seems to me that the simplification of meditation is one of the important parts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Meditation does not mean necessarily meditating *on some thing*, but meditating on... nothing. Or else just *being*, may be good word. Just by being. Exposing yourselves of all kinds of possible threat you might experience. But those threat are working basis, something like that, would be good. So, it's a question of exposing yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4266.0,4342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, once you sort of mentioned something about meditation or maybe about a nyinthun that stuck with me, was like *giving in*. Like you were giving in to yourself just a little, you know like stopping -- standing still a little bit for once. And I don't know, somehow that just stuck with me you know. It's like you know stop the flight, you know stop escaping yourself. You know like trust yourself a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You know accept yourself a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That if you going to freak out, work with your process, rather than trying to improvise something else. That seem to be basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That seems to be one of the things which occurs frequently in retreat, you know that there's an incredible need to be entertained. And if you sit in a little cabin for some weeks alone and that the possibility of some sort of freak out seems tremendously, you know, horrifyingly close. That it sort of astonished me that one-- that I could in fact sit there and not be entertained for, you know a couple of weeks, and come out at the end of it and still be sane, you know -- maybe even more sane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4342.0,4430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: And I think another good point with meditation, that a lot of people don't understand, is one of centralization versus decentralization. I've spent years and years centralizing myself through different systems, working with drugs, trying to find the center of it, working with teachers, working with mantras. Being introduced to Buddhism, the whole notion of decentralization I found an extremely powerful notion. The whole approach, the technique of the meditation that Rinpoche teaches, is one of getting out of ego-centralization, getting out of yourself, opening up this way, out, out, rather than trying to pull it together. You know \"I have to get myself together\" is a notion of center, which is quite different. So a lot of techniques using the term \"meditation\" differ in that point. I think it's a very important point to understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think one of the ideas of centralization is... confirming your ego. That when we begin to relate with something outside of ego, outside of that neurosis which goes with a sense of hanging on to some solid entity as such. And meditation from this point of view is not-- by no means regarded as you would achieve state without thoughts. And thoughts are regarded as pure transparent occurrence that exist in your state of being. So it's question of relating with the thoughts as they are, rather than thoughts be regarded as a villain that should get rid of.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [Laughs] A concept of opening. Opening to the-- to those thoughts that you regard as villain, and opening during meditation. And if you can open to yourself, being there with yourself, that maybe through meditation that line seems to be erased. And when you get up from meditation you can open to everybody else. You can open to the rest of it that's out there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the possibilities of meditation in action. Which is there's tremendous possibilities of doing that. That if you develop the thought process as your companions then the action becomes also your companions. Any challenges that might occurred in your life could become companions at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4430.0,4633.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: At the-- we're still talking it seems on the level of-- well we're talking about meditation as sitting down and confronting or experiencing a lot of negative aspects which up to this point have been obscured by various entertainments. And now we're talking about the possibility of maybe transmuting somethings previously thought of as negative into positive things. But for me in my fifth story flat, listening to the radio, I'm still not sold. I'm still waiting to hear -- maybe a promise. Though you've already said there's no promises. [Laughter] But maybe something positive like-- all right, supposing I were to turn off the radio, get rid of that entertainment, and sit down with myself. The very thought is terrifying. I'm going to turn the radio up louder because if I'm alone in my room with all of these terrible fears, what is going to help me to really live through that immersion in all of that hot, turbulent energy that I sense is there. What's going to bring me through?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go ahead. [laughter] You can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I suppose that's all one can say. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4633.0,4736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It seems that we run away from ordinary life all the time, and meditation seems to just make one aware of ordinary life, reintroduces it. Sitting -- say sitting alone at home, just that whole process, you know. We're usually so busy, just off on cloud nine or busy with our fears, our violent trips, whatever, meditation isn't introducing us to everyday life, being able to see it as it is, not the way our mind-- you know, usually our mind is tripping off here, there, and everywhere. And we see that tripping, everything -- there's another perspective that takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Maybe it's that you realize you don't need to be at war with yourself you know. It's like you have-- I get a feeling that like, you know, that we fear our insides and that maybe our insides are going to beat us down, kill us you know, get rid of us, and make us go mad. Or we're going to lose, and that we're really going to lose if we get into it. And maybe the feeling grows that it's not so much a war.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And it's not so much a loss either. Even though it-- even though I'm sure everyone who has spent any time meditating found that a lot of ambitions they had for themselves or ambitions to perfect their ego or perfect themselves socially in some way, those ambitions were swiftly dashed. And any illusions -- some illusions in any case -- that they may have had about who they were, turned out to be frayed if not full of holes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4736.0,4845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It seems that as our hopes lose some of their power, our fears lose some of their power too.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Like say if we have a suicidal thought that, you know, maybe we don't trust ourselves to go through certain experiences. Or maybe there's a private hell sort of lurking back there that we don't want to face, and because we don't face it it will have tremendous power over us.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But when we just sit down and then that little suicidal thought comes floating by, it-- you see it as one of many different thought and it doesn't have that tremendous awesome power that it used to have. The thoughts, the ugly thoughts, the hells don't go away, but somehow there's sort of more stuff that you relate to just like you relate to other things. I mean when I say that I'm not totally convinced, [laughs; laughter] it-- there's a little bit of ideology in there. But I still suspect that that's true -- that those dark reaches just don't have the tremendous mystical and powerful influence they once had.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, sure, and one can sense even without understanding through the process of meditation a certain kind of weakening of those demonic forces. Maybe without understanding what it is that's afraid, or what it is that's threatening.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And it's not necessarily high internal pressure, like you're afraid of stuff that's in you. It can be low internal pressure like you're afraid there's nothing there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"Oh, please fill me up with divine bliss\" or \"please fill me up with ideology\" or whatever. And at the same time if you're an intellectual you fight everything that you're given, you know, and it's really a relief to believe for once that you've got what you need. \"Self, meet yourself -- oh.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4845.0,4987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should introduce new topic. This discussion which we have half an hour to discuss. Lot of people in this country are concerned with the political implications and the sociological implications of America. That Buddhism is coming to this country and affected with a lot of people such as like the Time Magazine interview of me and all kinds of things like that. That there's lot of ideas that's floating in the air that possibilities of what Buddhism can do, can offer, apart from our own problems, things like that. And I think it's very interesting that we should trying to expose our listeners to share that whole big avenue that we haven't particularly discussed tonight. And obviously we have taken care of our own situation that was the effect that Buddhism is going to bring to this country. And Tail of the Tiger, Karma Dzong in Colorado, Tail of the Tiger in Vermont, Karma Dzong in Colorado, had been highly involved with economic consequences of the society. And students there going to take part in involving themselves with daily living situations as well as that organization also need money to maintain itself, which has become one of the important point.\r\n\r\n\r\nI feel that our role is not purely just to devoid of those areas and just maintain ourselves as a very small collection of eclectic people, as such, at all. That we have already exposed ourselves to it. That-- and also there's tremendous promises of that our approach has tremendous possibilities of invading rest of the nation, so to speak. As we work, our life situations and practice becomes life and daily life situations, and economic practice, relating with American karma, becoming a part of the whole big show, so to speak. And we have the Snow Lion Inn in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, we are running. And all kinds of situation like that could have consequence in which that we are going to affect American karma. And we are affecting American karma already. Like the previous discussion in relating with the elements, how we relate with the elements, and what's the subjugation of the elements from Buddhist point of view like Padmasambhava's analogy, what's happening already. So maybe we could get some kind of discussion apart from practice of meditation which is demandatory practice, at least of the students who are highly committed. Maybe we could discuss something-- some other areas of that. Krishna, can you talk about?\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: [then known as \"Krishna\"] Sure. It's been kind of--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=4987.0,5228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean the whole thing is kind of how individuals who attracted to the scene, my scene here, has related with the whole economy of the country, as well as the pollution of the country as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: To give you some history for myself, the remarkable years I've gone through, in that I began my quote \"search\", my path I guess, initially when I dropped out of college, kind of frustrated with the scene there, and got deeply involved with psychedelics for a long time. And what happened was the spacing out process of rejecting society, saying, \"Well, the generation past didn't have their trip together so I'm not going to try anything like that because I don't want to fall in those patterns, those conditioned patterns.\" And so for quite a while I was kind of selfishly, spiritually involved with a search that went through drugs, that took me to India, gave me a chance to meet teachers, yogis, sadhus, whatever. But nevertheless I was very much in a dreamy place, fantasizing, a spiritual materialistic place. I got somewhat seriously involved for quite a number of years with yoga, Hindu oriented, and that slowly began to bring me down. Took me out of a lot of dreamlike trips ahead. Nevertheless because of my hunger for spiritualism and my ambition, I created more trips out of that, but nevertheless there was transitional period for five or six years which opened me up to possibilities of relating to society, myself with society. But still because of certain cultural, spiritual trips that I was involved with, with the yoga trip, kept me from being-- having my feet on earth. Kind of concise autobiography I'm giving. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nThen I came into contact with Rinpoche and with Buddhism, and of course the whole direction I did a 360 degree turn about very quickly. And I realized-- some of my follies became quite self-evident, and it was very painful; at the same time it was [laughing] delightful. What was going though was, kind of, from extremely high place, you might say, was this transition of coming down and suddenly, you might say, I began to land softly. And working with the teachings, working with Rinpoche, and which goes without-- with meditation, the whole process of reintegrating myself with society came about.\r\n\r\n\r\nA remarkable thing happened on the scene here was there was an opportunity to run a hotel. That this owner of a hotel in Jackson Hole called the Snow Lion Inn became a student of Rinpoche and offered Rinpoche and the whole scene a chance to work together in a situation which was obviously worldly. You know, in the eyes of many people maybe even non-spiritual. Lots of people say, \"Wow, a ski lodge already? Oh, far out man. How can you do that?\" [Laughs] So, we got involved with that. There's a whole group of us, twenty students, who are running a hotel, and it's a very rich experience. It's filled with a lot of irritations constantly, but I think it's totally in harmony with what we're talking about today, with the teachings, which is a situation now where we deal with the world, we deal with money. And it's lost its significance or insignificance; the insignificance from the hippie point of view, or the extreme significance from the point of view of people who are very attached to the money-ambition syndrome.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo Snow Lion Inn has offered for myself and for the people up there a chance to apply the teachings, apply meditation practice formally, and most profound kind of, most obvious to me, is the idea of meditation in action. To work in a scene which has lots of natural speed. Hotel business is speedy business, right. It's restaurant, it's bar, it's rooms, it's business. And it's-- to me in a sense it's not small business; big operation. So there's that speed. At the same time the teachings show that you can have the space to deal with the speed. You still have to dance with the speed, shall we say. You don't have to fight it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in a sense of the question you mention about fifth story loft, whatever, I think it's very applicable a situation here, because up in Jackson Hole there are lots of people running hotels and motels who are-- would be very frustrated in a sense of maybe listening, initially, to \"oh, meditation, ba ba, ba ba.\" [laughter] But a first hand testimony from me is that one *can* run a hotel, be involved [laughs] with an established situation, business situation, and grow with it in a way that I never thought possible -- compared to ten years ago when I thought that to be involved with a trip like that would be suicide spiritually. It would-- I would have to keep away from it, renounce it, give it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=5228.0,5607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Mhmm. But here's one of the-- we're getting close to the sanctuary of one of the great American gods. How can you-- I can imagine you can run the hotel, but can you run it well? Can you make it a success?\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: Well we are, for one thing. [Laughter] To preface, yes I think so, I think more so. In that for one thing my-- the goals of the people there and myself are not just to make it a financial success, and because of that it's becoming one. Because the competitive quality among the people working together is not there, it's much more unified. Right? And people feel much more in terms of there's less ripping off psychologically, materially. So, with that space the creative quality goes way up and become-- and the efficiency level goes way up, right? [Laughter] At the same time there's no uptightness. So we have people coming to the hotel and they don't know that eighty percent of the employees are meditating Buddhists, but they say \"wow, it's a far out place. It's sort of relaxed and the service is good.\" And if they're really interested and they ask a lot I'll say \"well it's actually being run by amateurs, you know.\" And they don't believe it, right. I mean the chef has only been a chef for a year, our bartender is just being trained. I think on a very mundane level meditation offers a chance to be creative on workaday situations, and if you don't have the psychological speed that most people in this country have, then a kind of fundamental, creative intelligence has space enough to manifest. And so I think it's a direction of meditation is to open up the space so lots of marvelous things could manifest. Snow Lion is, I think, just the beginning of an example of dharma in Americana life. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI'm sure there'll be other things coming up. But it's very interesting to me to see this happen from the place I was coming to where I thought it was not possible, you know for it to mix. But it's very naturally happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=5607.0,5750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Mhmm. Yeah, I think it does mix. Of course, I don't know whether this is irrelevant or not but the fact is that Buddhist countries called Buddhist, like Burma, Tibet, don't seem to be particularly successful on that level. They're poor countries aren't they? I mean this was my-- the impression--\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: It seems that Buddhism in America will have its own color--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The American Buddhism--\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: --own vibration if you would, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH GREEN: It's not so much that we're practicing Tibetan Buddhism, per se in a way. It's that Buddhism is-- like Buddhism came from India to Tibet. And it wasn't Indian Buddhism in Tibet, it was Tibetan Buddhism. And the way I see it that same energy is coming to this country. It's not going to be particularly Tibetan Buddhism, it's going to be American Buddhism. So I don't think the analogy would hold because America is a place of production, of manifesting lots of technological creation. Buddhism is not going to stop that flow, it's going to just enrich it, see possibilities with it, use it more creatively.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=5750.0,5824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'd like to pose a question. It seems that we're not really trying to create an alternative. Like we don't have an image in our mind of an alternative culture or a new community ideal that we're working for. Somehow what we're trying to do is work with our present culture. But that begins to run the risk of sort of developing a new capitalism or somehow not really presenting an alternative to the racism and sexism and all the sort of-- the problems at the base of our institutions. So what I'd like to ask is: okay, once we go back into our culture and try to work with things and participate, are we just perpetuating a lot of the institutional problems or are somehow our participation-- or does it undercut some of those problems?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you said it already. That lot of the situation or the institutions have begun not being aware of the-- its consequences. And they just began and hope for the best, or hope for the glory. And situation is developed-- or administrative situation had developed within Buddhist framework of reference have developed with some kind of perspective already. And we are not creating institution, hope for the best -- but afraid for the best. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that seem to be starting point, in fact, that there is lot of openness. That things happened at the beginning because we are aware of the negative consequences. I think that's one of the very, very important point that we could begin, and we could begin very securely, because aware of the consequences as well at the same time, which is historical development that happens in this country or other countries. We begin to learn the mistakes that were made in the past, we begin to learn by formulating new creativity on the basis of the mistakes that been put out. So I don't see any problems with that particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=5824.0,6009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It's been important for me to realize that Buddhism, American Buddhism, isn't exclusive in the range of things it can relate to on the American scene. That there could be a Buddhist approach to anything that comes up in the country, at all. And in our experience we've been working not only with more traditional meditation practice, et cetera, but when business comes up or there's theater in America, film in America, working with psychiatric problems in America, or anything that might come up on the American scene, it's possible to explore and work with in a Buddhist frame of reference.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Whatever that is. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well it seems to be exploratory at this point. That it's not necessarily set out in advance, but the American scene, the energy in America, is wide ranging. And we could work with that instead of, \"Well this-- these are the limits that Buddhism can approach.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't know. It's an open question with me as to what would be a creative aspect in my job. It's a very open question. And action, no action, attitudes--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, precisely. Up to you. [Laughs] Improvising itself does not have to become accordance with the Bible of Buddhism. There's no such thing anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=6009.0,6108.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to close our happenings tonight, this point. And I would like to thank for the listeners that who be taking part. And would also would like to invite anybody who are listening to this particular program to at least come and find out what's we up to, that you're welcome. And we are not particularly prejudiced to any spiritual shoppers, [laughter] and we welcome because they are potential businessmen, some point. That you are welcome to find out and take part in the seminar is happening right now; has been announced already the location and time and so forth. That I would like to invite listeners of this particular program.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I would like to thank for KQED acting as a hospitality situation for us. Which is wonderful and which is unique situation that happened. And I would like to make everybody happy, [laughter] but take care of your pain at the same time. And the spirituality costs both pain and pleasure at the same time, rather than purely pain. Welcome everybody. Thank you for listening to us. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=6108.0,6199.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78145/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MUSICAL OUTRO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Music: Carole King, Up On the Roof]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302#t=6199.0,6422.67429"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78146","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730519VCTR3-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146097/file/269302/transcript/78146/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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