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Mindfulness of shamatha as opening to awareness of the environment with no center. Understanding of egolessness as key to vipashyana experience. How one's relationship to one's thoughts changes. Describes experience of greater awareness as \"unconditional boredom,\" of nothing happening. But at the same time, something tangible experienced, as clarity, insight. In QA, [Q1] \"powerful boredom\"; [Q2} how fear of losing self turns outward to awareness; [Q7] how vipashyana organically relates to shamatha; [Q10] interesting exchange on approaching and curing sickness from mind-body perspective; [Q11] key importance of practicing with sangha.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Path is the Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE PATH IS THE GOAL: Part Two: Chapter 4: Boredom - Full or Empty?\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-path-is-the-goal-1146.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2 (in contained book THE PATH IS THE GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2024 to Mar 30 2026 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R6"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA very clear, experiential description of what vipashyana is. Mindfulness of shamatha as opening to awareness of the environment with no center. Understanding of egolessness as key to vipashyana experience. How one's relationship to one's thoughts changes. Describes experience of greater awareness as \"unconditional boredom,\" of nothing happening. But at the same time, something tangible experienced, as clarity, insight. In QA, [Q1] \"powerful boredom\"; [Q2} how fear of losing self turns outward to awareness; [Q7] how vipashyana organically relates to shamatha; [Q10] interesting exchange on approaching and curing sickness from mind-body perspective; [Q11] key importance of practicing with sangha.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260519-574702-h00qw1.mpga"]},"duration":2447.06825,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/309/204/original/open-uri20260519-574702-h00qw1.mpga?1779234441","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2447.06825,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740910VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740910VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Vipashyana Insight Meditation - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Vipashyana, Insight Meditation, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number four, September 10th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Seminar in Insight, Talk Four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=0.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One of the point of basic vipashyana practice is to develop what is known as the knowledge of egolessness. That is to say that the awareness that develops through vipashyana experience brings nonexistence of oneself. And because that you have developed understanding of nonexistence of yourself, therefore you are freer to relate with phenomenal world -- the climate or the atmosphere that we talked yesterday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=24.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So unless there is no basic center, that one cannot develop-- unless there is no basic center, one cannot develop vipashyana experience. So, that is to say in terms of practical level, the vipashyana is to experience sense of environment, a sense of space, as meditator practices. Which is called awareness, opposed to mindful which is very detailed, very direct. But awareness is something panoramic, open. That, like even in the breathing techniques, of mindfulness of breathing, one is not only aware of the breathing alone but one is also aware of the environment around the breath that you have created.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=101.0,185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of dealing with heavy-handed thoughts, emotions, is that there is no way of destroying or getting over heavy-handed emotions, heavy-handed thoughts unless you see the reference point *with* thoughts. Which is the awareness of the atmosphere, to begin with. Whereas if you are already aware of the atmosphere before, and then there is a possibility that you might have less intense relationship with your heavy-handed thoughts. So that seem to be one of the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=185.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You begin to realize the thoughts are no big deal. Thoughts can diffuse to the atmosphere. This kind of atmosphere we are talking about is ongoing experience that happens to us in any case, in our life. But sometimes we find that we are so much wrapped up in our little game, our little manipulation, that we miss the totality. And therefore it is necessary for the students to begin with shamatha experience -- so that we can see the details of that eruption, and that manipulation, the game that goes on. And then beyond that, having established some kind of relationship with that, then you begin to see the basic totality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=246.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So vipashyana, from this point of view is understanding of the whole thing. You might ask, \"What is this 'whole thing'?\" Well, it's not particularly anything really. But this \"whole thing\" is the accommodator of all the activities that's taking place. It's the basic accommodation, which usually comes in the form of boredom, in the form of point of view of practitioner is concerned. That looking for something to fill up the gap. Particularly in the sitting practice of vipashyana meditation, this non-happening becomes very boring. And then you can get agitated by boredom, which is a way to fill the boredom with some activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=335.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So boredom this case, is the background. There are different types of boredom that we experience, usually. Insecurity. Lack of excitement. And being idle, nothing happens. So in this case the boredom that we are discussing in the level of vipashyana is the sense of being idle. Is unconditional boredom. The vipashyana awareness experience would have a sense of all-pervasive, thick cream. Has body, at the same time it is fluid, and at the same time it is *somewhat* challenging. So as one's development of awareness takes place, that one doesn't become spaced out, particularly at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=413.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That when we talk about spaced out, it is we are talking about empty-hearted. And dazzling light of emotions begin to irritate ourselves. And you can't grasp anything; you are completely freaking out. But in this case vipashyana awareness is something much more tangible in some sense, if you like to call it that way. Something very personal that exist. It goes with any kind of activities usually, apart from sitting practice alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=508.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That when you sit and listen this point to the talk, that you have developed or have created a certain particular type of attitude, which is that you are directing your attention to the speaker. But at the same time, that you and the speaker are not the only person in this tent. And you also know that as well at the same time. So there is a sense of you are sitting in the middle of inside -- underneath the ocean, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=554.0,598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And awareness brings to relate with that particular experience, which is tangible, real, and experiential, in some sense you could say. That is why it is called insight. Sometimes it is referred as the light, and luminosity. We aren't talking about fluorescent, particularly at this point. But we are talking about sense of clarity that exist. Once you feel that basic all-pervasiveness, then there is nothing else but \"that.\" And \"this\" has been forgotten for a long time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=598.0,666.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe at the beginning \"this\" try to struggle, to fight with \"that,\" all-pervasiveness, quite possibly. But at some point that all-pervasiveness is all over the place. And a sense of suffocation begin to develop. And that subtle suffocation begin to turn into boredom, which is then actually you are getting into the all-pervasiveness of vipashyana experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=666.0,694.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that seem to be just beginner's point of vipashyana. And I would like to further emphasize this, vipashyana experience is we are not talking in terms of hypothetical possibilities. That you *can* experience actually in your life, in your being. And it is prominent in our life. That *has* been this potentialities of vipashyana has been taking place all the time. But we haven't actually acknowledged, or actually have seen it in many cases. So that seem to be a basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd maybe should have some discussions on that, if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=694.0,741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There are experiences in meditation where a certain openness seems to take place. But if this openness-- this openness seems to be different than boredom. It seems to be punctuating the boredom. It seems to be more exciting. If--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems to be more of an exciting experience. I mean, I don't understand how it could be boredom, because there is boredom, but within that boredom there are occasional flashes, or whatever, where a certain openness takes place. And this seems to be the opposite of boredom; it seems to be a very exciting thing when it happens. So what is happening?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the level of first introduction, obviously. That you feel excited, that you feel that there's something new that you got. But as you use that as actual practice, and then you wear out the novelty very quickly, particularly with this. And turn into a very powerful boredom. That when you are in a sauna bath, that you like it at the beginning. And you also like the implication of being in the sauna bath, and the cleaning up, and loosening up your muscles, or whatever have you. But if you are stuck there, somebody put a lock on your sauna bath door [laughter], then you begin to feel very heavy-handed, and you get bored and frightened, at the same time. I think the whole thing is the question of we have to wait and see what happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=741.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You speak of the suffocation turning into boredom, and the boredom then moving into some kind of openness, I take it. This sounds to me as though boredom is in fact like a gut response to the fear of losing oneself. Or losing self. Is that a correct way of seeing it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so too, yeah. It's-- the boredom is the atmosphere. While you are bored, you are not aware of \"this\", but you are aware of the atmosphere, which creates boredom. Which is a very interesting twist that takes place. And usually that doesn't happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Instead of being afraid that the self is disappearing directly, you turn that outward, to the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah. That's the awareness experience that happens. Yeah, that's right. Well said, sir. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=855.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is it openness that when we're meditating, all of a sudden if there's a sound in the room, or if someone coughs, sometimes you feel so susceptible to that that you feel very shattered. It's very magnified, very physical, electric.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a slight faint of suspicion when you say that. It is possible that you become open, and susceptive. But if you don't have the sense of the atmosphere is filled with body, texture, then you are spacing out, rather than you are being shamatha or vipashyana-fied, particularly, that level. And there is definite need for your dealing with, like dense, humid atmosphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=919.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You just said that the atmosphere is-- after the cough, the atmosphere has a sense of body and texture, or to be aware of that. And I'm curious, that sounds like a very subtle difference between being aware of a backdrop in a theater. And how does one know the difference, or is there a way? Is there no way? What are the subtleties of that? I don't quite see them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's saying the same thing actually. In the theater that you don't only see the stage alone, but you have created your own texture, and around the theater hall already. And that particular thing is a highlight, somewhat. That otherwise you won't go and see theater; you might watch television instead. Or there's a difference in watching a movie and being in theater. That a movie is being produced already, edited already, you are seeing it. The theater is performed, on the spot. Maybe they have stories of their own, but still it's-- that you are taking part in it somehow. That in the theater something could go wrong on the spot, or somebody fall off the floor on the stage and break their neck. There's that possibility. Whereas you can't expect that in the movies. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=990.0,1091.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is the boredom that you are talking about that develops in vipashyana a different kind of boredom than the irritations that you f-- the boredom you had when you first start sitting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's a mixture of the two, of both. But there is a different types of boredom obviously. The boredom that is developed from irritation is still reference point to \"this.\" Whereas just boredom of boredom itself is like having a flu.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Having what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Flu. That you are more conscious of how sick you are, rather than your body's particularly sick. That you have so much waves and waves and waves after your temperature is... and you been coughing and sneezing and everything. So at some point you begin to live up to it. And the activities begin to become the atmosphere, rather that your body's suffering particularly from that sickness. Somewhat you have become somewhat numb, and you become impersonal. When you're *really* sick, you become impersonal. Whereas if you are just sick a little bit, like if you had thorn in your feet, splinter on your hand, and you are not *really* sick, you are-- you just feel more body-ness. But when you're really sick you feel that-- you feel the atmosphere of sickness, rather than you are actually sick, and you want to get out of it particularly. And at some point it becomes numb. By our concept of that being told to you that you are sick, so we know that you can get rid of your sickness, but that's just an occasional conceptual wave that comes to us. So that's kind of boredom that we are talking about, is atmosphere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sort of more like being willing to go all the way with the boredom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the idea. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=1091.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: I thought of the boredom that occurred in meditation as being a problem with relating to the emptiness. And when you'd say, boredom because you're relating to the space, or something like that, or because the space was empty. But you seem to be saying this is boredom because you're relating to fullness of space; that it's full of some kind of atmosphere. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's saying the same thing, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well, I wonder how. Because in the sense of boredom because space is full, like -- and when you've got the flu -- in some sense it seems to me is, your environment is full of you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which *is* emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: [Laughs] How come?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see when we talk about emptiness we are talk-- not talking about the vacancy.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: In the sense of-- emptiness in the sense of meaningless or--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No not even that. We are talking about emptiness as having a body or texture of emptiness, which is the same as saying full.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well, does it have to do with the accommodation element? Is that what you mean by emptiness in that case? That there was something to hold the atmosphere?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It's not accommodation alone, but accommodation as well as the container that's the containing.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: You mean like the edges, the container itself which holds--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, which becomes the same thing. That if you have a cup full of water, that's the epitome of emptiness. [Laughter] It's in fact indestructible emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Indestructible because whether it has water in it or not, there's a space there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. There's water already; you can't change that. Whereas if it's just vacant, you can fill it up with something else.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: When you say acknowledging space... Acknowledging-- like acknowledging the water would be acknowledging space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's the acknowledging the existence of a cup filled with water, rather than any of those. Then you have a problem of acknowledging the boundary is becomes problematic. If you acknowledge that what inside is not not nothing, then you have a problem with the boundary becomes also, you know, troublesome, problem-some. Because your boundary begin to haunt you.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: So it's a sense of acknowledging the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's what vipashyana is all about. 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Would it be right to say that one should attempt to involve one's intellect in meditation from the point of view of shamatha all the way up to vipashyana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not question of trying to adopt new style or different style, but it's organic, naturally. That vipashyana is a product of shamatha, and shamatha brings vipashyana together. And at the beginning it's a very different kind of-- has a very different flavor of articulation. Which is acknowledging your thoughts, naming your thoughts, as thoughts. But when the situation develops into the vipashyana level, that even you transcend the name; you begin to be aware of the attitude around the name, rather than what names is all about. Which is the beginning of sort of prajna intellect level, somehow. That instead of purely talking about that \"you are hungry, I want food,\" and you begin to discuss about what kinds of dishes you would like to eat, you would like to have. Rather than you just want to fill your stomach, with just a food.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Mhmm. Well, I mean I sort of get the feeling that shamatha might be kind of a pig's approach to meditation, and just sort of-- [laughs; laughter] just sort of your nose right there, and not being able to see any sort of facets of the particular situation. Just absolute, kind of a gross experiential point of view, without any intellect involved at all. I mean, I sort of somehow have the feeling that there's some-- always some sort of intellect happening, I mean even if it's on a very kind of basic level.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. There couldn't be otherwise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So, how is...? I don't know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then vipashyana level becomes more refined. Not only refined alone, but you begin to learn to look at from different angle. Which is instead of scrutinizing the things, you begin to develop the background. It's like instead of picking up bread crumb by bread crumb from the table, you learn to develop a broom to sweep, which is a different approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well I guess my question was, I mean, should one attempt to involve-- or-- well I suppose at this point it would be just the thought process, an active thought process--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well there's no problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --in shamatha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no problem. 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That you feel that there-- this thing is... you can deal with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So in the beginning-- so this is still talking about the beginning approach to vipashyana, and that would be like the-- some stronghold of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Still trying to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still trying to escape, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Trying to contain it somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Like you are thinking that if you are-- if you know the blueprint of meditation, then you can get away from it. What's supposed to happen to you; then you can tune yourself that way, do that way, so then you don't have to go through too much trouble.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In that analogy would it then be maybe a possible trick to try and name it or try and go back to something, you know, like more shamatha approach to it, to try and get on top of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, anything you could think of. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The hassles of life or, anything. There's limitless things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=1744.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Does that mean that a further vipashyana experience would be the breaking of the cup, breaking of the boundaries?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One doesn't have to break; the cup dissolves. [Laughter] There's no warfare involved, particularly. That the cup becomes water.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Using-- in using the word \"emptiness\" seems to be a very misleading word. Perhaps--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Perhaps the opposite word would be even better -- \"fullness.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then fullness is means security to a lot of people. You know, like hunger opposed to full. So \"emptiness\" may be the best word to express fullness. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=1860.0,1903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm groping--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm hoping you can help me out. [Laughs] Very badly right now. Using the model of sickness, physical illness: if I am sick, then I pay attention to my sickness and accept my sickness. I don't know where I go from there. If I do anything else, I intervene with my sickness. Of I'm hearing my sickness as a reflection of something I'm doing to myself, and I attempt to intervene in my sickness -- take pills or do something else -- then I start treating my sickness. And if I do that, I've alread-- I'm reinforcing the ego, because \"I\" am treating \"my sickness.\" If I treat my sickness, I'm involved in repeating the ego entrapment. If I don't treat my sickness, I simply flow with my sickness and become further confused, and imprisoned.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: And sick!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have a problem there, of metaphor becoming less than a metaphor. That we are not talking a way if you have a headache, and not talking in terms of metaphysical headache, but actual headache. I'm not talking in terms of that one shouldn't take aspirin, Excedrin or whatever you have. [Laughter] But I'm talking in terms of sickness as a conflict with the body in space that takes place. And for that level there's no pills, no medicine, no operation, except it is a result of mismanagement, between mind and body.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd only way that you can cure yourself, or intervene if you like to put it that way, is go back to the original pain, the original source. And that seem to be the basic point. And the original point is being that you can change whole thing upside-down, inside-out. That even while you are sick, that psychosomatic sickness in the larger sense, if you can relate with it, that in itself is a cure, in its own way, rather than looking for some other elements. So the sickness becomes a cure, is the basic point. I mean that's what's called the path, is that you are confused therefore you have a path. If you're not confused, then you don't attain enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=1903.0,2138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Does boredom arise because, you know, it's essentially a new experience? And then inspiration would somehow occur because you somehow notice the texture of the new experience? And it's not just a blob it's-- it actually has-- well, it's actually has texture, and you would begin to become aware of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Because otherwise, you know, it sounds like a dead end...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, the dead end is the beginning of light.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, yeah, I know... [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Otherwise a dead end couldn't exist, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But it's also a question of excitement too isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, excitement, yeah. But not exactly excitement in the sense of glorifying next change of shift.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No I mean like-- it seems that once you're excited, I mean you can't do very much, you can't notice anything in there. Well you have to come to terms with the excitement, and therefore you have to become bored--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2138.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Isn't there the possibility in some people of the boredom turning into a pathological depression from which there is no relief? No-- it's not a turning point at all, they just go downhill with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is strong possibilities of that. If you stop meditating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But if you continue?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you continue, your boredom continue in a glorified way. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Now does this really mean that if you are on the brink of a serious pathological depression, and you continue to meditate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --that you will not go over the brink into psychosis but you will--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a possibility, sure. There's a lot of cases like that, that I have myself come across with a lot of people have done that. I think particularly if people don't have a sense of sangha-ship, that there's no way of relate with anybody else. But you are in your own little practice, and you don't have the notion of heroism of the path. And that's always possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Then it's really important to have a tea-- be in contact with a teacher. At least--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *And* teaching *and* your brothers and sisters, in laws or whatever you have. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2255.0,2346.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You spoke of neurosis, and you mentioned it in relation to self-existent suicide. And I'm wondering whether everything, all neurosis, a person's whole being, doesn't always get back to the basic question of one's existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Very much so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Everything that I do or think is trying to establish an answer to that question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And neurosis, is that the ego confusing itself to death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it doesn't quite die. It prolongs the pain, and gives further birth to pain. That's the terrifying part of it. That if you can really stop yourself completely up to nothing, it couldn't-- it wouldn't be very easy, and suicidal is the only answer. But somehow, after suicide, you have to make sure that you are dead, and then your further attempt to-- that make sure that you're dead comes on. So your suicidal never ends. [Laughs] That's the tricky part. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2346.0,2446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93900/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, maybe time to stop, and there's some announcement that have to be made?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2446.0,2447.06825"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740910VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=0.52,4.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Vipashyana,\nInsight Meditation, held at\nKarme Choling in Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=4.22,8.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number four,\nSeptember 10th, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=8.89,13.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made May 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=13.11,17.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Seminar in Insight,\nTalk Four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=17.95,22.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One of the point\nof basic vipashyana practice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=24.49,32.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is to develop what is known","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=32.92,40.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as the knowledge\nof egolessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=40.35,50.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is to say that\nthe awareness that develops\nthrough vipashyana 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At least--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2333.53,2335.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *And* teaching\n*and* your brothers and sisters,\nin laws or whatever you have.\n[Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2335.93,2344.662"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: You spoke of neurosis,\nand you mentioned it in relation\nto self-existent 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existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2362.81,2370.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\nVery much so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2370.05,2373.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Everything that I do\nor think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2373.91,2378.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is trying to establish\nan answer to that question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2378.22,2383.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\nDefinitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2383.58,2387.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: And neurosis,\nis that the ego\nconfusing itself to death?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2387.33,2398.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it doesn't\nquite 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it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2407.53,2410.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That if you can really\nstop yourself\ncompletely up to nothing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204#t=2410.7,2415.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170323/file/309204/transcript/93901/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it couldn't--\nit wouldn't be very easy,\nand suicidal is the only 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