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Even patience involves aggression. Example of heroism of Zen practitioners. Ambitious attitude to spiritual practice as spiritual materialism. Leads to \"anti-wisdom\", avidya. The more heroism, the more ego. Importance of seeing how we push ourselves. Liberation beyond good and bad. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] endurance in Zen not allowing for sense of humor; [Q2] difference between Milarepa's asceticism and Zen practitioners'; [Q7] attitudes toward God and other Christian ideas; [Q8} America's belief in God looking for security; not knowing we have in us all the time. [Q14] renunciation on path, \"todral\" in Tibetan, \"no elaboration.\" In closing remarks, meditation allows one to see aggression, approach oneself with friendliness.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 17 2021 to Jun 11 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe overlap between American aggression and its approach to spirituality. Even patience involves aggression. Example of heroism of Zen practitioners. Ambitious attitude to spiritual practice as spiritual materialism. Leads to \"anti-wisdom\", avidya. The more heroism, the more ego. Importance of seeing how we push ourselves. Liberation beyond good and bad. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] endurance in Zen not allowing for sense of humor; [Q2] difference between Milarepa's asceticism and Zen practitioners'; [Q7] attitudes toward God and other Christian ideas; [Q8} America's belief in God looking for security; not knowing we have in us all the time. [Q14] renunciation on path, \"todral\" in Tibetan, \"no elaboration.\" In closing remarks, meditation allows one to see aggression, approach oneself with friendliness.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-bobkhd.mpga"]},"duration":3922.83125,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/528/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-bobkhd.mpga?1783093623","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3922.83125,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711119VCTR2-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711119VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 4] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado in November 1971. This will be talk number four, November 19th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=0.0,71.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was hoping to discuss the communal situation that had developed throughout American karma, and that particular topic seem to be the main point. But I was reluctant to just impurely-- just purely indulge on that particular situation. So I would like to discuss further aspects of the karmic situation that we discussed last night in this particular seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=71.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem that having discussed patience last night already, that presents us further problem that aggression that involved with the patience. When we trying to put heavy trips on the being patient, that automatically invites aggression. And putting extreme attitude to the exertion itself, which automatically brings aggression. So this particular seem to be the one of the most important point to discuss in the all sorts of aspect of aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=123.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Application of patience is beautiful, harmonious, understanding. But at the same time, application of patience could be striving, exerting, insensitive. There are two types of patience that involved, particularly, that we suffer great deal in the Buddhist tradition of the West. We suffer great deal about idea of patience as well as idea of aggression. That it seemed that there's development of sort of cult-oriented tradition of Buddhism. That no other religion or no other ideas answer, but Buddhism is the only way, only *the* way. In order to strive to the enlightenment that everybody had to be aggressive to grasp enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=179.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is largely based on the inhuman situation of that absence of God, and surrendering to the God, or surrender to hierarchical structure of spiritual higher being. And when that particular situation is removed out of that spiritual search, then automatically next situation embarges [sic], automatically comes in, is then we have to concentrate on ourselves. That working with-- in ourselves automatically means that we have efficient mechanism going on with our system. And therefore we should strive on that mechanism that involve with us. Exertion. You are mad. In order to become saint, you purely have to sit, sit and sit, twenty-four hours a day. Purely that because there are no such things, thirty hours a day is possible. That we are limited by twenty-four hours a day. So that's why they say only twenty-four hours a day. [Laughter] If there's possibilities of going hundred hours a day, you go do so. Go ahead and kill yourself. [Laughter] Go ahead and strive, put your exertion to it, aggressively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=276.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And strange enough, there is a school of Japanese Buddhist tradition had developed in Japan, and that particular sect put great emphasis on heroic death. That what happens is that you have set certain particular area to sit and meditate on meditation posture, and the audience or the-- or your helpers will recite Heart Sutra, constantly. Simultaneously by pouring cold water on your body as you're meditating until your whole body system is reduced into a-- your circulation is completely stopped. And person sit and sit and sit, sit, forty-eight hours, or something like that, ice cold water is poured on you constantly, until person dies on the spot, not giving up his meditation gesture-- posture, or asana so to speak. And having done that, then they embalmed that particular person's body in tombs as the such such person had achieved this particular heroic, patient way of relating with Buddhism. And his name is written on a golden plate, and he's been worshipped because he had achieved this particular forbearance of suicidal process into the shunyata. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=390.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is true that it is developed in Japan of this particular suicidal process of attaining enlightenment, but at the same time, nobody knows he actually attain enlightenment or not, because he had no way of relating with his body with other situations at all. He never spoke a word, he never drink cup of tea, and he just sat and sat and the cold water poured on him until all his circulation is been completely reduced into freezing death. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Baby cries loudly] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nQuite safely we could say that type of practice, that particular type of suicidal process that had developed is unskillful and extremely aggressive, needless to say. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=517.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And simultaneously, it's a similar situation has developed in the West, with America particularly. In certain areas of so-called practitioners of Zen had developed that same attitude, same idea. Quite rightly, from their point of view. If you feel you had to release your bladder, that's your hangup. Sit and meditate, still. Whatever happens in your body, go on and on and on and on. If you are able to control your hangup of your bladder, then you are heroic process. You are the candidate to become bodhisattva. [Laughter] Exertion. Punishment. Sit and sit and punish yourself, constantly. Which seem to be one of the process that had developed, combination with American regimentation. Unity or uniformity philosophy that had developed. Having the idea of United States, you're united into that particular states of America on certain faith and certain exertion. That you are going to hold your breath until your face become red.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: And Blue.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And blue, yeah. Not only red, but blue. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=628.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what we call \"spiritual materialism.\" Spiritual materialism. [Laughter] Fighting for goal, sacrificing your life for achievement, ambition. If we work on that particular rate of trying to produce heroic American Buddha, it is very hard that quite possibly we cannot produce American Buddha at all. That because whole search of heroic process is based on ambition and aggression that we are talking about. And so therefore you could see, quite obviously, aggression is related with not only aggression of frivolousness of trying to achieve something, trying to grasp something alone, but that particular aggression takes form of grasping and trying to achieve something beyond grasp, beyond possessiveness, which is tremendous spiritual generosity and sacrifice. And therefore that we suffer in this country, particularly in terms of talking American karma -- since this particular topic seems to be the subject that we are discussing in this seminar -- is American karma could lead into another dimension of aggression. Which is spiritual aggression, killing themselves, suiciding themselves into such unnecessary exertion, extraordinary exertion, without wisdom, without knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=761.0,916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the aggression originally starts from trying to maintain the idea of development, and therefore you should fight anything comes in your way to seduce you. Constantly fight them back, push them out constantly. Don't accept any seductions at all. Absolutely not at all, no room. If possible, don't put sugar in your coffee, if that brings us possibilities of drinking cup of coffee. For that matter, do not put sugar or cream in your coffee. You should drink hard, black, bitter coffee. [Laughter] If you want to really drink coffee, that's best way of drinking coffee. To be honest and to be spiritually-oriented, [laughter] ascetic way of drinking coffee. Put everything into that extreme, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=916.0,993.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that that kind of particular aggression also tend to use some kind of unconscious luxurious situation of trying to save one's whole being. You couldn't say that particular aggression is suicidal alone as such. For instance, such people involved in that aggression, spiritual aggression, trip will not just cross road without looking for the lights. Because then it is regarded as he's being careless. Not he should suffer the pain, but he has been careless. And if he crossed the light without proper situation, that he should tell himself that he's been naughty boy, bad person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=993.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's a basic twist of sensitive and sane approach is automatically twisted into punishing all the time. Whenever there's wisdom, the anti-wisdom is be more important than the wisdom itself. So therefore, we could say anti-wisdom is \"avidya.\" \"Avidya,\" as it described in the Sanskrit, \"a\" means \"not,\" \"vidya\" means \"wisdom.\" Avidya. So not accepting wisdom, or the avidya, is related with inflicting pain on yourself. That you're being insensitive, that you have been unable to relate with yourself. So more you experience avidya, or unintelligent or ignorance, that much you're worthy of inflicting pain on yourself. And there has developed certain philosophical ideas of that particular kinds, is that more you create bad karma in terms of punishing yourself, more you punish yourself, that much pleasure you're going to get out of it in terms of ultimate aim and object. Good karma. If you do something wrong and punish yourself, kill yourself, torture yourself, more you torture yourself, that much you're going to gain the pleasure out of it. And as you built up your torturing yourself constantly, *then* the ultimate pleasure is attainment of enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1056.0,1190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So attainment of enlightenment or becoming buddha is based on the level of how much you can torture yourself, how much you can inflict pain on yourself, constantly, on and on and on. More heroically that you can inflict pain on yourself, of course, not killing yourself, then other words you lose the whole point. You lose some ground to inflict pain on yourself, [laughter] but just don't kill yourself and just hold on that. Of course, that point, you should be careful, not kill yourself. But if you can sustain or suspend ourselves, not killing, but inflict pain constantly on and on and on. And more we inflict pain on ourselves, then it is possible that you can attain enlightenment on the percentage of how much pain you put on yourself. [Laughter] Constantly on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1190.0,1251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's-- that idea has been-- I'm not particularly making hapless idea on the spot, but it has been traditional in the primitive and ignorant sense of those who misunderstood the dharma. And we could say that particular kind of aggression is the source that we could turn away from attainment of enlightenment. Because more we try to inflict pain on ourselves, that much ambition is involved. Heroic attitude, heroism. More heroic attitude is involved, there is less chance to give up ego, or transcend ego; therefore, there's no chance at all. So that kind of fundamental aggression seem to be extremely important to realize that that particular aggression, type of aggression, does not liberate us fundamentally. Because when we talk about liberation, it is liberation in terms of transcending both limitations of good and bad, pain and pleasure. So simple-minded idea of attainment of enlightenment is related to goodness alone, that there is no possibilities of attaining at all. And the maintenance of goodness automatically lead to how bad you are, so you have to maintain your logical relative logic in your mind quite sharply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1251.0,1361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So particular terms-- in terms of what we're talking about aggression tonight in this particular karmic situation, is that aggression in terms of spiritual aggression of punishing yourself, or aggression in terms of emotional or psychological materialism. That trying to maintain yourself constantly all the time by pushing on and on hard as much as you can. And I think it is extremely related with American karma as we are talking about. American karma is involved with world of aggression, world of speed. That there's great possibility-- or not only possibility, but you have already gone through in this country, this continent, we have gone through the aggression of spirituality, trying to punish ourselves. But at the same time, we also gone through the aggression of materialism, trying to achieve pleasure out of punishing ourselves at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1361.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be another chapter in our discussion, the seminar today, so to speak. Which is very important to relate to it. Very hard to notice if you just naively accept it, but it is very important to relate with it as much as we could before we get into the further subjects of American karma and its more pessimistic situations could lead into optimistic situations. That we could discuss that tomorrow and day after tomorrow. But to establish understanding of the whole concept of karmic situation of the whole process as background that it is I think extremely important to realize how much we push ourselves, how much we thrust ourselves unreasonable way. It seem to be most important point in this particular moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could have discussions, questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1443.0,1526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in Zen practice they recommend that you increase your tolerance for discomfort to a certain extent in order to maintain a stable sitting posture. Do you agree with that? Not as a punishment thing, just to increase your endurance for sitting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, the whole point is that Zen practice is based on philosophical principle of riddles, like the idea of sound of one hand clap and things like that. So more you trying to be serious, you are supposedly that much sense of humor is supposed to develop, constantly. And more you sit yourself in a correct posture, which is, of course, extremely important to begin with, but that much you're supposed to laugh at yourself doing that such thing as trip. [Laughter] And it seems that Western audience of Zen practitioners have lost that last touch [laughter], and purely to concentrate on the first one, hoping that lost sense of humor will land on you, mysteriously, magically, by not employing the wisdom. If you're extremely serious on your seriousness, and if your mind is completely closed down, there's no room for sense of humor at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's a great story of a Zen monk, great master, who felt cold in the winter. And he look for something to keep himself warm, to make bonfire in his room. That he had-- so the last thing they could find is image of Buddha which made out of wood. So he decide to get up and chop that down and make himself-- keep himself warm. That's kind of interesting situation that [laughter] more serious involved is more possibilities of relate with a sense of humor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1526.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What about the example of Milarepa? He seemed to have-- to practice strict asceticism for almost all of his life, and yet he must have been able to go beyond avidya somehow. How is his example different from what you're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose from that point of view you could say that Milarepa's example is different from that of Zen master's strictness. It's based on more of idea of craziness, [laughter] rather than purely sense of humor alone. That he regard himself-- more he get into his practice he regard himself getting more and more crazy. And that particular song that he sang on one particular occasion, that he says that, \"Because my great, great, great grandfather is also crazy, therefore I inherit it, this craziness.\" And he didn't mind doing it [laughter] or exposing his craziness. So there's more of this exposing craziness rather than purely sense of humor alone. Which could be said that is the difference between sutra practice of Zen based on madhyamaka school of thought recommended this idea of sense of humor. And the tantric approach towards the seriousness is mind's game and mind's trap. That therefore you should see the other aspect of the game, which is relating with the craziness. Seem to be that particular process goes on and on all the time in Milarepa's examples. Particularly, if you relate with these songs that he sang the last part of his life, that you find there is this touch of crazy wisdom coming through constantly. For instance, one particular moment he talks about Buddha was great liar. He confused all of us by purely talking about relative truth, not able to present the absolute truth as it is. And all sorts of examples, the outrageous qualities of it that comes through it somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1699.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, what did you mean when you said in order to relate to sense of humor, you have to-- or you said the more serious you are, the more you can relate with your sense of humor? Yoohoo. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that's very extremely, extremely simple logic. That if you experience intense darkness, that whenever there's just beam of light we would understand the opposite of it. It's a sort of relational situation of comparison. That more you get into heavy and extreme concept of seriousness, suddenly watching yourself being seriousness, being serious, or realize that how serious you have been, automatically brings this laughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1863.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, if you have just watched yourself being really serious and see the humor in that, and you happen to be meditating and that, you know, sitting in the posture and meditating, how is it-- it's kind of hard to continue sitting there and continue meditating, because it's so absurd, you know. It's-- you no longer can be serious about it so-- [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But you're still sitting there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But you're still sitting there, and it's just really funny, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the whole point, is that meditation becomes part of living situation, rather than ritualistic concept. So more you realize the ironical aspect or the hilarious aspect of you're sitting there and meditating, that much your meditation is going to be loosened up, that much you have less thoughts, or that much you have less distractions, and meditation becomes ideal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But doesn't that awareness of it being hilarious becomes a distraction in itself, or its--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because at the same time you don't self-congratulate yourself of describing-- discovering the hilariousness of it as such at all. That the joke in itself becomes meditation in itself. That we are playing joke on ourselves, big joke. Provides a space so we want to get into further jokes until we can enlightenment, [laughter] which is extremely joyous and great fun. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It's the ultimate joke.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what precisely means \"lalitha\" or \"dance.\" Everything's seen as \"maya\" -- as \"illusion\" or \"mirage.\" Seem to be related with that particular process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=1974.0,2111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You were speaking of spiritual aggression as a peculiarity of American spiritual seeking. A term I hear very frequently in the city yoga ashram I visit in San Francisco is \"tapasya,\" \"straightening by fire.\" If you're having trouble with a desire that's continually dragging you down, you simply, you know, stop gratifying it. And I wondered if there's a way to integrate this with what you were just talking about with a sense of humor. If you-- if there's a way to practice tapasya without aggression or seriousness, and if the Japanese yogi that you were talking about, who had the ice water poured over him, if that was a form of tapasya. Is the concept of tapasya contrary to what you've been talking about tonight?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems the whole process is based on, if you want to achieve something out of your seriousness, then that is, quite safely you could say, is dead-end street. Whereas if you relate with achievement is not particularly the way, but using path is goal and goal is path at the same time, that seriousness is also the goal as well as the path, then there's a continual humorous situation occurred on your path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=2111.0,2201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, it seems to me a lot of us identify asceticism with certain practices, and yet sometimes I feel it's not the practice or whatever's being done that's ascetic, but the state of mind. Like if you don't eat, but you don't feel like eating, there's nothing ascetic about that. And yet someone on the outside might look at you and say you're fasting. So the asceticism actually seems to be the concept of someone outside of you who's looking at what you're doing and saying that's ascetic, and you're trying to do this for all certain reasons. It seems to me like what Milarepa was doing, he might have not considered ascetic in any way. Like you don't-- if you don't want a penthouse and lots of nice furniture and a color television set, then you're not giving up anything by not having those things. And if you don't want to eat at a certain time or for a day or two days or whatever, or you're not fasting, you're simply not eating. And if you're-- you always have to be doing something. You either have to be sitting straight or sitting in a slouched position. So if you don't consider one better than the other, you simply have to be sitting. It wouldn't be ascetic to sit straight or to sit slouched. So where does asceticism come in then? What meaning does it have?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's purely conceptualization. And usually asceticism automatically would have some romantic notion of associate yourself with the wild flower that grows in the highlands or associate yourself with a wild deer which could purely survive on eating grass. And it is sort of romantic qualities of it, the asceticism, the whole romantic cult of solitary or solitude, remain in solitude, is related with this poetical cult of become one with the clouds and become one with pine trees which blown by the wind, which does not need any comfort but purely comforted by purely by blown by wind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That also seems to be an outside statement, describing a state of mind rather than what's actually happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. That's why whole thing is that the practice is a serious matter. We don't want put any other trips other than relate with one's ego and at be extremely domestic matter. That concepts between samsara and nirvana are nothing to do with-- over the metaphysical problems or philosophical or religious problems, but it is domestic matter. It's domestic chaos. That maintenance of a nest of ego and maintenance of a luxurious situation of liberation, it's something extremely personal. In a sense, you could say something extremely beyond a romantic situation. It's very serious and very direct and very much related with the actual dealing with earth and your existence. It's how you live, how you survive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=2201.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But doesn't it say like that the spirit of God cannot dwell in defiled temples?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I can't hear you, I’m sorry.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Doesn't it say like the spirit of God cannot dwell in defiled temples, and that like cigarette smoking would be a defilement of the holy temple?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spirit of God is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It says like [INAUDIBLE], the spirit of God cannot dwell in defiled temples. And it means like, you know, eating of meat, or smoking, or anything that does damage to the temple.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then how can you smoke the cigarette and still be under God's law? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, from that point of view, God seem to be extremely feeble. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So like we're supposed to be going on towards [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] are dying for a cause. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh, he's done. Excuse me. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's talking? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Doesn't it-- well, if we're moving like becoming gods and like, eventually administering angels, or however you look at it, and you can't defile your temple, you have to live eternal law in the spiritual, you know, in the covenants.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiritual what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Like the covenants the Father gave us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Father? Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, but why would you make fun of like, you know, God or the, you know like, your body or you know... I think we learn like to abuse, you know, that we can't defile it anymore. That like, you know, it's like we have life within us you know and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Can't release the life that's within the spirit without living eternal law. And any defilement it's says-- it also says, \"Any temple that is flawed, God shall destroy their temple.\" And it means like Sodom and Gomorrah and all these [INAUDIBLE]. it's similar. They defiled the temple, and God got to the point where their wrath-- where his wrath was upon the earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to happen already in a sense. That in fact, God's wrath and his anger, whatever you like to call it, brought us here together. Everybody become dissatisfied with their life, and everybody finds pain in their state of being. And in fact, God's wrath brought us here together and regard that life is pain, and therefore we would like to look into something beyond it. So I don't see why there's any point of trying to blockage that particular knowledge, that particular inspiration of God's wrath at all. In fact, it is worthwhile to provoke God's wrath, so people become more awake. They're not purely fall into sleep of heavenly honey, swimming in honey or swimming in a beautiful scent of incense or heavenly pleasure alone. Because the heavenly pleasure is pure seduction, which provokes the materialism as it is. That we have enough comforts already. Which is the deception of God, rather than the truth of God. If God promises comfort, that's a deception.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Isn't it sort of like the war between like Satan and God? That, you know, like Satan leads people-- it says like, you know, before the second coming of Christ that Satan shall bring down-- shall preside over the world and shall take it down into darkness and that the whole face of the Earth except for Zion. Which is like for all the people that prepare themselves [INAUDIBLE] temples to-- at least, you know, pure truth is just, you know, Satan is at the-- is more or less than the truth, you know, the spirit of the wicked.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, God cannot survive without Satan. In order to be God, there had to be anti-God. As long as we discuss that language, we have to have a relative law. If we are talking about light, that we have to discuss about the darkness. How light is powerful, how darkness is powerful. So it seem that's all our problem of this particular confusion that we are into is we are involved with dualistic law. That somebody's bright, therefore, somebody's *not* bright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=2424.0,2773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, Tibetan Buddhism teaches there is no external god. And like if you assume American karma in your first lecture, like it's so strong in our tradition that even our coinage is written, \"In God We Trust.\" And it seems to come up continually, you know, in our daily lives. And I'm just wondering if you could talk a little bit about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, that's seem to be one of the biggest blockage that we have, and also that's one of the basic twist that we could make, by not relating with the fundamental and the basic twist. That we have security, we aim for security, or spiritual ultimate security. In order to have that ultimate security, we have to relate with something beautiful, something pleasurable. Having not founded that pleasure in materialistic life, like living in the penthouse, or whatever's may be, then we look for beyond that. And people find it extremely exciting that there is another answer which is beyond living in the penthouse. And such as like living in a wood cabin or living in the cave. That that seem to be the ultimate answer. That we could provide some contrast between living in a security of and pleasure of living in a penthouse, opposed to experiencing coldness of it. Discomforting situation of living in the cave is regarded as, that point, not physical problem at all, but it is regarded as a spiritual problem; therefore, there's some pleasure is involved. That we are doing something worthwhile and ultimately beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that kind of abstract trust or gullible trust that we have tend to put on the abstract quality of it. Having discovered that everybody had searched for quite possible treasure islands all over the-- all over this Earth, planet Earth, that we sailed along one corner to another corner to the Earth, that we haven't found ideal, heavenly realm, which possesses treasure islands. Having discovered there's no earthly treasure islands that there's automatic reaction turns into other dimensions, quite possible that people talk about having-- discovering or having visitations from flying saucers, or another planets might have possible treasure islands. That we attempted to expand our ambition to that area to conquer them and grasp their wealth into our possessive process. So, in a sense, that man's attempt to venture beyond this Earth, this particular planet, is a spiritual materialistic trip. Looking for something beyond.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it seems that our American karma process of spiritual materialism is also based on that particular search of looking something beyond, something maybe mysterious or mystical, something subtle or something fundamental. Not realize the subtlety and fundamentally is all the time with you all the time. That your-- you have to give up your ambition, and you have to give up your search of believing purely you'll gain something from outside, but something is already in you. That already ambition to search something beyond is already in you. That if you give up any kind of search, that search is there already, and since that there is always this big particular problems involved and this particular dichotomy seems to play extremely important part, or hangups for that matter too, we could say quite safely for the American karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=2773.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Rinpoche? Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Is immolation or dying, killing yourself for a cause, say, related, connected with this idea of suicide regressiveness that you've been talking about? For instance, it might be necessary to say save your friend or brother, and you go out and save them, and you get killed. Would you consider that aggressive suicide? And there's these Vietnam monks who burn themselves. How does that connect up with what you're saying? Is that something separate or is it the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say that this-- these Vietnamese monks suiciding themselves are purely supposedly related with the bodhisattva's idea of giving your life. But it is intentional, therefore deliberate, and not skillful means in relating with the situation as they are. So it is extremely clumsy bodhisattva, if they are bodhisattva at all. And it's very simpleminded.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What about the thing of saving a person's life, where you have to give your life in order to save them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's depend on situation. If it's-- that particular move is related with inspiring person who's going to live at the same time, not only saving their life, and then that seem to be quite feasible. You see, you do not want to lay heavy trips on them or harm them after that you save their life in expenses of your life, and they don't want to indulge that particular pride. Somebody saved their life, therefore they could just continuously going on and on, on their ego trip. So that implication of such tremendous expense of giving up your life should have not only physical saving life alone, but it should have a spiritual implication beyond as well. How is it going to help them, how is it going to harm them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3058.0,3239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: If you use instead of the words \"to escape karma,\" you think of it in terms of suspending conditioning, stopping conditioning. It seems that what you were saying earlier is that-- let's say a person is aggressive, that they have a need to achieve. They get into a spiritual tradition, they wear different clothes, they wear robes, and they talk differently, but their behavior is very much the same. You haven't been able to suspend the conditioning, because it's imprinted in the person at a level that words can't reach, or simple rituals, changing simple rituals can't reach. Now the Buddha, when he lectured to the hundreds and thousands of people that he lectured to, had only one person who really understood what he was saying. One disciple. So mathematically those are pretty poor odds. [Laughter] Is there any way of increasing the signal to noise ratio so that [laughter] it includesmore people? Not just in terms of being able to parrot the words, but being able to observe the rituals, being able to say the right thing, to actually change their behavior, the very deep levels of the conditioning that's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there’s great deal of possibilities of that. I'm sure, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What we're doing here though is talking, talking back and forth. Dialogue.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's part of it. That we are talking in simple language. In fact, that lot of the audience here would discover that nothing new has been said at all. And everything has been confirmed what they thought already, what might be so. So that's in itself a stepping stone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3239.0,3370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You use the word \"deliberate.\" You said that these monks are very clumsy bodhisattvas if they're bodhisattvas altogether, because they were deliberate. And I quite-- I don't quite understand it. Why is being deliberate... why does it...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well deliberate, in a sense, is purely not relating with things as they are in the actual panoramic view of situations, but deliberate in the sense of that you want to be deliberate. You want to be hero yourself, and you want to relate specially, you want to-- you have something to say. Therefore you get up and you say it, but what you said becomes very clumsy and nobody's inspired by it at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3370.0,3432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How would you relate that to the Jesus Christ trip?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Jesus freaks.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Jesus Christ, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: The Jesus Christ trip where-- the deliberateness and the clumsiness, would that follow in his case too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's really depends on how they relate with it actually. They could be pedantic in their own discoveries, but they could only talk about accordance of their own experience. But it is extremely dangerous to talk beyond that pedantic in terms of trying to lay trips on other people. And once you lay heavy trips on other people, you going to be struck back. You’re going to get injured. So it's really depend on situations, how much ego trip is involved with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3432.0,3495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You were speaking in San Francisco last spring, and I asked you about some of the work that I was doing and some very negative energy trips that I was running into from other people, didn't know how to deal with it. And your specific instruction was to fight, if that is what it came to. And now that we're dealing with the question of aggression, I would like to know about fighting without aggression, dealing effective blows in a situation, if combat is what you're called on to perform, if that seems to be in the Tao, without attachment and without really, really caring if you win or lose. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's saying the same thing. That you have your understanding, and you're relating with not other people, but *your* version of the other people. In fact, you're talking to yourself at the same time. So you're dealing with your aggression that bounces back on you. And if you relate with that particular process that way, then there's no damage is done, because you relate with your own projections. And that particular play or display would have tremendous effect on other people. That the others could do the same thing. So it seem to be extremely simple. I mean, that's whole idea of-- the idea of fearlessness and being direct, being mirror, for guru to their students and not trying to hide they're being mirror, mirrors, but remain themselves as mirror as much as they could. Let the others reflect on it. So you could say mirror is extremely insulting thing that happened for-- as far as the others concerned. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3495.0,3636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What about a spirit of renunciation? I've always associated the word \"renunciation\" with-- pretty closely with the word \"asceticism,\" but it seems like that's not it at all. But isn't the spirit of renunciation necessary for the path and what is it to-- is it just renouncing aggression trips and other trips like that, or what is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could say renunciation is-- the Tibetan word related with renunciation is \"trodral,\" which \"tro\" means \"elaboration,\" \"dral\" means \"without it.\" So it's idea of \"without elaboration,\" which is renunciation fundamentally boils down is simplicity. That if there's any possibilities of extending or elaborating process in any way in terms of being richer and being more situations to entertain yourself, to maintain your ego. So if there's no way of maintain your ego at all, then that is ultimate renunciation. That's the idea of simplicity, without elaboration, without-- in other word, people find extremely difficult to experience the renunciation as it is. When they simply hear the simple truth, they want to have elaborate truth with interpretations and commentaries on it. So if you accept simple truth as it is, without commentaries or elaborations or ornamentations of it, so that is ultimate renunciation. Then you find yourself straight and narrow path without any sidetracks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528#t=3636.0,3758.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174111/file/313528/transcript/95061/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking about not having sidetracks perhaps we should stop our discussion here. And tomorrow is the day we specially organize for \"sesshin,\" which is a borrowed word as far as Tibetan Buddhism is concerned. It's intensive meditation practice, if you like to call it in American way. And in this particular intensive, meditation is especially effective and very helpful. And especially those who particularly wanted to attend this seminar, I think would find extremely beneficiary and very beautiful. I don't mean to say beautiful in the sense of luxurious or without any pain, but you could-- might develop another perspective view of-- we talk about spontaneity, we talk about looseness and freedom without aggression. But at the same time, that particular kind of practice is only way to relate with aggression, by using intensive situation to see the aggression as it is. And that seem to be extremely valuable and extremely important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo if anybody like to join this particular practice that we are having tomorrow is-- I would recommend very highly. And there's nothing to be afraid of it; nobody's going to attack you. [Laughter] As long as we trust ourselves that we can go and do it, quite possibly that someone's going to attack you is yourself. So that related with ourselves as friendly as much as possible, trust ourselves, and just get into that situation seem to be extremely important. And I'll come down and have a short starting point tomorrow morning. And we would like to invite on behalf of our community and everybody, we would like to invite you as guest of our friend of taking part in this particular important thing of meditating with us, sharing our space together. And we all would appreciate very much. Thank you. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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