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Intuition has potential to make us overly serious, intellect overly frivolous. Both can be experienced as buddha nature. Involves loosening up rigidity, overcoming frivolity. Describes the \"gauris\", beings who appear in the bardo after deities. Everything presented as chance to understand true nature of death, even in life. Points out tendency to insulate ourselves from reality of death, and Tibetan Book of the Dead, and seeing on level of symbolism, myth. Tantric approach is seeing through insulation, and communicating directly with reality of phenomenal world, including death. In Q\u0026amp;A, points out having misspoken in the talk, clarifies that intellect associated with wrathful deities and frivolity; intuition with the peaceful deities and rigidity. Affirms that acceptance of death cuts down on ego. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 04 2018 to Dec 09 2023 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Matilda Perks, Lynn Friedman Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExpands on discussion of intuition and intellect in the bardo, relating to peaceful and wrathful deities. Intuition has potential to make us overly serious, intellect overly frivolous. Both can be experienced as buddha nature. Involves loosening up rigidity, overcoming frivolity. Describes the \"gauris\", beings who appear in the bardo after deities. Everything presented as chance to understand true nature of death, even in life. Points out tendency to insulate ourselves from reality of death, and Tibetan Book of the Dead, and seeing on level of symbolism, myth. Tantric approach is seeing through insulation, and communicating directly with reality of phenomenal world, including death. In Q\u0026amp;A, points out having misspoken in the talk, clarifies that intellect associated with wrathful deities and frivolity; intuition with the peaceful deities and rigidity. Affirms that acceptance of death cuts down on ego.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Book of the Dead II, given at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, in Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. This is Talk 6, given on July 11th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto Remaster made November 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center lecturing on The Tibetan Book of the Dead. The following is lecture six, July 11th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=0.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we have to start understanding more about the samsaric chain which brought together sense of existence. And existence brings birth, death, and further confusion. In relationship that we unable to relate with the-- our intellect and intuition that I was discussing day before yesterday. That unable to relate with the peaceful and wrathful principles of buddha aspect in oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=46.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the reasons why we unable to relate with such situation is because we had very strange attitude to ourselves. The attitude is that either intensely serious so that even our relationship to birth or death becomes very clumsy. Or else that we are so frivolous, that relate with our birth and death becomes so amateurish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=133.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And between the two, there is very ironic situation. That either we are stiff, or else we are too frivolous. And that is the basic point in which that we were unable to relate with the real meaning of intellect and intuition, which the-- we could say the buddha nature in us, in the form of intuition, intellect, as Tibetan Book of the Dead talks about the principle which lies within us, which shines through after our death and projects out into the stream of our consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=202.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course, it will be wrong to regard the experience of death as purely historic occasion, once in a lifetime happens. But as we've been studying and discussing the whole subject matter all along as being a living situation that happens all the time in our life situation. That the frivolity and that the rigidity happens constantly with our life situation and unable to see clearly. Rather than being a happy medium in the conventional sense of holding composure in the sense that you are unaffected by any extremes, which is not the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=277.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We’re not particular talking about compromising or insensitivity, particularly. But we are talking about the lacking of awakeness in our experience of all these process. That momentary death and momentary birth had to be obscured. The experience be obscured by either of those two extremes. And strangely enough, that those two principles also apply, that you unable to see the peaceful deities and wrathful deities as part of your projections. And you fantasize, you hallucinate of them as external entity in the symbolism of Tibetan Book of the Dead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=342.0,412.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the rigidity had to be loosened up by a sense of peace, of sense of intellectual, if we could use that word in a slightly different way, than rather than ordinary, conventional sense. That intellectual is that discriminating insight to able to see things, and that loosens up the rigidity, which symbolizing the peaceful deities. Regarded as like a very powerful waterfall, cool waterfall, which comes down with a great force and makes the rigid lumps of earth into soft, and reduce into dust of sand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=412.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, on the other hand, the frivolousness is connected with the-- that of the wrathful deities. That frivolity has also fundamental aggression or inserting oneself into a particular game, that one what one is involved. That overly emphasizing and the life situation and interpreting as big joke, or unable to sustain on the one continuity, whatever frivolousness that may be -- they all seem to be result of sense of unstable, and also slight tinge of aggression, which is the wrathful deities. When it appears, wrathful deity is projected, that is so terrifying, because we are seeing ourselves in it. And our frivolous is bounces back on us as definite entity, and it sort of also loosens up the frivolousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=487.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And almost we could say the frivolousness also is another form of rigidity. That unable to loosen it up so far, so to the extreme that even the jargon of loosening up is be incorporated in its game. So the wrathful deity is related with the intellect-- I mean intuition, sorry. Intuition. That intuition in the sense of perception. That [UNCLEAR: see? say?], frivolousness has no perception, except just purely animal instinct of seeing them-- right, left, and back, front. And the frivolity of unable to relate with the things and trying to manufacture something up on the midair is sense of insensitivity, that unable to relate completely and unable to have a grips on the things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=584.0,655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, therefore, the intuition is the ultimate grip in this case, the intuition in the sense of also higher level intuition we could say, could use such word as \"higher,\" but it’s a sense of that one doesn’t have to actually speak for, on behalf of anything, including your own projections. But you are completely in tuned with what’s happening in your life situation, and opportunities that you all experience. That you don’t have to use your secondary judgment. And firsthand judgment becomes important, or intuition, which is a sort of awake quality, which is also extremely wrathful, powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=655.0,727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s that which is subjugates the frivolousness is extremely striking. But frivolity cannot be overcome by gentleness of the peaceful deities. But, on the other hand, rigidity could be overcome by peaceful means. And also you will-- I’m sure a lot of people you’ve read, you people have read Tibetan Book of the Dead and in it says that twenty-eight gauris who also accompanied the peaceful and wrathful deities. I don’t remember exact detail, but something to the effect that gauris appears on the-- something like on the sixth day of the experiencing the wrathful deities, sixth day. Something to the effect that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=727.0,818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That gauris are-- \"gauri\" is a Sanskrit work which means, literally means \"goddess\" or \"messenger.\" But, in this case, in the form of wrathful or slight angry style of goddesses or dakinis. And that principle is one's innate femininity, which is also related with frivolousness, that one's innate femininity is the source of frivolousness, and not swaying-- saying against anything about women, in this case, particularly. But one's innate femininity is-- has also fickleness quality, and also has the gullible quality and overemphasizing something at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=818.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are all kinds of gauris, twenty-eight gauris. If you see, have a chance to see such picture next time on The Tibetan Book of the Dead picture, you’ll see them. None of them have a human head. They all depicted by human body and animal head, which is the ultimate message. The expressions are described in terms of heads. That you might say that your chicken-ness is symbolized as gauri which chicken’s head bouncing back on you as a messenger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=887.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well however, it’s the symbolism is not as simple as that. It’s all kinds of animal you can think of, all kinds of birds, all kind of wild animals, domestic animals, that horse-like, or bat-like, or crow-like, snake-like, cuckoo, tortoise, tiger, lion, blue jay, [laughter] and vampire. And all kinds of faces. The expression of frivolity is bouncing back on you. And the gauris in themselves are the transcendent quality of frivolousness, femininity. But it could be still mockering[sic], rather than complimentary, as such. That those are bouncing back on you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=949.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The imagery is very horrific and what they hold, how they behave. And its scene of charnel ground or barren ground bouncing back on us, which is the, fundamentally, the only last chance that we can deal with our frivolity. We have a chance to deal with the frivolity. And if you miss that particular boat, then we have failed to understand the death, and we failed to understand the birth. And then we are thrown back to continual ignorant of unable to relate with the teachings of understanding death and birth and impermanence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1030.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to mix those images as after-death experience, as Tibetan Book of the Dead gives us. At the same time, that our everyday-to-day life situation such thing occur to us, as our experiential situation, where living in the world goes. And both are identical, complementary. And, in fact, if you are able to experience the-- relate with that kind of message this lifetime, conventional lifetime, the conventional death time is also same thing. That one is able to, without any difficult, one would be able to relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1087.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, I think, one of the things is that what really needs for us to take it really seriously, is to take seriously that we still have a notion of that this might be kind of retelling a myth, or something to the effect that whole thing could be symbolism and is not serious as this. That you don’t really mean that death is always there. And somehow or other, that there is a snugness in us or satisfaction. That we are really satisfied what we hear, because it’s an interesting idea. But really behind that, you know, that somehow that we unable to relate with the backbone, which seem to be the one of the problematic situation is-- in fact, you can’t make a person to really believe or understand life unless person is thrust into life them-- in themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1137.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And almost we could say, that we are here today, that those who have gone through some kind of experience of life, or some kind of challenges of life, probably would understand much more so than those who have had shield completely, hospitably, the world has been kind to -- in the superficial sense -- to us, has more difficulty to relate with it. And, particularly, on top of that, if you’re studying philosophy or symbolism, and if you have studied ethnic cultures, sociology, that you regard the whole thing as somewhat ethnic culture of Indian and Buddhist, Tibetan thought represented as very interesting one. [laughter] And we don’t have to actually live like them, somewhat. Maybe more kinder than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1219.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it would be also equally too absurd to create hell on Earth like tonight or immediately on the spot. That would be regarded as psychodrama, which is manufactured by person. So we are in a very difficult situation that we can’t recreate the pain of experience of death and birth and egolessness. But, at the same time, that we had to have some kind of message that we at least have to go through our skin, and if not to the heart at least *towards* the heart, somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1286.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we're unable to do so in the larger scale which has nothing to do with the particularly *believing* a myth, or believing in the traditional stories, as being seriously true. That you actually going to see a wrathful Buddha and peaceful Buddha when you die. And one doesn’t have to take too literally, too seriously in that way. But, at the same time, that we have to take something seriously, which is take seriously-- we have to take our *life* seriously, somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1329.0,1376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that’s one of the problems that-- is that somewhat there’s a discrepancy. In fact, we are not really leading our life, and we are so apart from life and as we say, space out, which also applies to person who says that, as well as the person who’s referring to the other person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1376.0,1416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is some kind of numbness somewhere, which, of course, makes infuriating. That if you trying to, you know, let people know, \"Watch out! You’re about to step on the poisonous snake.\" But, at the same time, on the other hand, it might be an extremely good lesson to let them step on a poisonous snake. And they have experience it personally. But even that, how far can you go with that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1416.0,1468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like the traditional story of Gentiles talks about the Jews, is that father says to, \"Jump, and I’ll catch you.\" And he drop the son on the floor. And, \"That will teach you how to not trust other people.\" [laughs; laughter] And one can’t teach purely by costing so much energy. But, at the same time, it seems we do need some kind of messenger of somewhere, really definitely, we do need. So, in order to understand death and life completely, we had to be less numb and less on the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1468.0,1538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I suppose only way to do is just to understand or to realize the-- on the process our communication to world, just to experience the insulation that we’ve created. Insulation that we have created, the rubbery thing we have created around ourselves. If we able to feel that maybe, then, although it’s by no means big development, but, at the same time, it’s maybe somewhat hopeful. At least we’re aware of that we have a transparent insulation round us, which fail to-- which made us fail to relate with real phenomenal world in its intense, real situation, shunyata level, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1538.0,1595.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I mean, what I’m trying to say tonight seem to be is that if we wanted to understand the tantric version of death and transitoriness, and understand communication with the world, our life, that we have to have some kind of individual practice, not particularly given technical practice of-- according to particular school of thought as such. But just, sort of, pay attention to what’s happening, and trying to find the insulation we put out. At the least trying to find that. And then that may be a clue of something, that we are actually entrapped in something rubbery and something uncommunicateable to the world outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1595.0,1654.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those understanding of that also needs further thinking in terms of the idea of the rigidness and frivolity, and also need to think in terms of the-- what is the intuition, what is the intellect. I wouldn’t say exactly *think* about them as if they are separate, away from us. But to try to find out that aspect in us, which seem to be more to the point, which seem to be extremely necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, we could discuss more, but probably I shouldn’t overcrowd you, and leave you lots of room to think about. So we could discuss. Have a question period, if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1654.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: In your last talk, you referred to the wrathful deities coming from the intellect. And tonight, you said it was connected with fearlessness, which is intuition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did I?\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: Is that in conflict?[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s extremely conflict. That’s [INAUDIBLE WORDS] let me correct you. Maybe I’ve got wrong. The wrathful deity comes from brain, which is connected with the intellect. And peaceful--\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: So would that still be frivolousness? Intellect, in tonight’s case?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: Would frivolousness still be a quality of intellect, as you were saying--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: --tonight? Not intuition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not intuition, yeah. Sorry about that, for everybody.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But they're still feminine?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But they're still--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Still feminine, yeah, yeah. Anything to do with sort of frivolousness are connected with something had to be abruptly cut, rather than should be talked over. So, frivolousness...\r\n\r\n\r\nLUDWIG TURZANSKI: So then rigidity would come from intuition, is that right? It’s sort of-- it doesn’t get to an intellectual dissertation, it’s more like a closed-ness altogether? Closed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Closed-ness. It’s you create a skin around you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is that the self-conscious feeling that people get when they’re, like, confronted with each other? The rigid feeling? That’s the insulation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think that’s refuse to communicate. Not willing to communicate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1727.0,1850.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You spoke of the peaceful and wrathful deities as being projection. Is it true also that everyone that we encounter is also a projection? That-- or what we experience of them is a projection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s the one of the important point is we’re-- I’m trying to say is that what we experience are consist of peaceful and wrathful deities. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1850.0,1877.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But it seems that there are clear messages coming through us all the time. If we see someone who is afraid, then there’s a message coming to us that we are afraid, and that’s something to work with or maybe just to see-- or any other quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah. I mean, that’s the whole point is that our life is, you know, very rich. And there’s-- it’s question of do we run away from the teaching? It’s not question of that we are deprived of the teaching. That peaceful and wrathful deities are following you, you know, haunted by them, in fact. As The Book of the Dead talks about, that if you attracted to the dimmer light, and you don’t go the dimmer light but try to relate with the brighter light of the Samantabhadra or whatever. You know, relate with the more brighter ones, which is more irritating to look at. And don’t go in the sidetracks of any kind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What is the dimmer light?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s the introverted and deceptive, that you’re refuse to step out and go through the pain of stepping out, pain of being unmasked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1877.0,1971.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JAY: In this business of the numbness, the insulation, I find in my own experience that I recognize this. I mean, that I’m conscious of it quite a lot in my life. And I don’t think I’m afraid that I’m-- that the consciousness of it is not enough to make a vital change in it. That its origin is like in some old place, like in childhood, that the childhood experience has made for the-- in this rigidity, made for this insulation. And that the introspection, or the self observation, or the meditation, is not sufficient to really influence it deeply.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you see the thing is-- you see what’s wrong there is that if you approached from the point of view of the meditation or the contemplation is going to cure it, then you’re creating further numbness. Whereas, if you created in that numbness of insulation directly, without making too much emphasis on the methods. So, in other word, the methodology becomes also another numbness. So its question is it had to be raw meal rather than a cooked one to cure oneself, without going through any process. I mean, it’s, you know, it’s very direct and very simple. That those things do exist, and then you begin find the horrifying aspect of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there’s some kind of problems, some kind of security as to that if you read a book and which says exactly the same thing, and it’ll also tells you how to cure it, as well. And we feel at the beginning, that we are-- we feel good that because that those were common symptoms, and because books mentions so, because it be said so already. And then on top of that, or because of those common symptoms, they are all, obviously, cures for that as well. So we feel that our confusion and our rigidity and insulation are valid, you see. And we don’t feel that our-- we’re trapped up in a middle of nowhere. We don’t get chance to actually really freak out. And those are the problems. So, if we really look it as objectively, directly, rather than, I mean, impersonally, then we will find. And we find extremely, you know, shocking, terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=1971.0,2154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is that why we drink, Rinpoche? Because it’s too sharp?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose that’s problem with anything, yeah. That there’s a sense of that we want to seal off when we feel depressed or when we feel, you know, you’re just about to see the edge of ourselves. And then, you know, and either go to the cinema or…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2154.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How come our meditation practice seems to produce a lot of frivolousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Produce what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Frivolousness, or you know, [UNCLEAR: a likelihood]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by *that*? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, sort of indulgence in the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Indulging the space a lot. Using it as a release.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t know. It’s probably-- are-- was talking about on behalf of yourself, or the others?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, I'm only got on behalf of myself. I don’t know about the others.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, any kind of meditation practice which brings no pain in your life, then you begin to find comfortable, and exciting, and securing. But I wouldn’t say that if you relate to meditation as way of bringing out the pain on the surface, then probably they jump the gun and trying to shield even those excessive pains. But, nevertheless, pain is real. So, the-- ideally speaking, our students should be more painful. And they should see their own pain clearly. And we seem to be doing our best to do. [laughter] In fact, we been blamed for that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: On the other hand, if you don’t establish a good relationship with pain, then [UNCLEAR: we miss this?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean that, obviously, you know, that you do anything you can to avoid that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2181.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It’s hard for me to distinguish between the times when relating with my neurosis is just letting them happen, and when it’s sort of obsessing them and multiplying them to the creating more garbage. How to distinguish?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t think question is distinguishing them. But question is relating with all of that. You know, once you try to distinguish it, then you are reinforcing the other one or this one, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2316.0,2357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would being aware of the numbness be like the beginnings of an effort to turn towards the bright light instead of the dullness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, then you begin to see the obstacles towards bright light, if you’re aware of the numbness, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2357.0,2373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I thought when you were lecturing tonight you said that frivolousness and the feminine quality was part of the intuitive aspect. And that the remedy was the intellectual wrathful. And that the rigidity came from the intellectual wrathful. And that the-- and then the warmth and the peaceful deities would be the remedy for that. But when--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Peaceful deities are…?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: A remedy for someone who’s--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Rigidity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --rigid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But then when, in answer to Ludwig’s question, it was like you sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --changed. No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. I just changed it with the head and heart, which I was confused myself at the time. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But isn’t it-- No. Didn’t you tell him that the frivolity was a product of-- was associated with the wrathful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still, frivolity associated with wrathful, yeah. And rigidity associated with peaceful. Frivolity should be cut through by the wrathful ones.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But isn’t the frivolity like the confusion of the heart? And then, the wrath-- the intellect is the remedy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The frivolity is connected with sense of unable to relate with what actually is, and trying to bring other things. Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That’s intellect, it’s relating with what is.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No. No. No. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn’t wrathful deities are intellect, and frivolity is all connected with the wrathful deities? It’s all intellectual.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: No, didn’t you say-- [laughter] but didn’t you say the other night, that the intuitive was what gave you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, let me tell you. [laughter; applause] It’s very simple. The intellect is associated with the head and wrathful deities. And intuition associated with the heart and peaceful deities.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Right, that’s what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And then, you know, anything goes along with that. Frivolity is connected with the head. And intellect is connected with the heart, I mean the-- [laughter; applause] I mean the--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Rigidity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Rigidity, yeah. Yeah. Rigidity connected with the heart, yeah-- *intuition*, rather. Pardon me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2373.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: David?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: I’m back to Jay’s question and your answer about what the books say. In terms of early childhood experiences, that the books, or some of the books anyhow, say that you have these patterns dating from very early on, either in terms of frivolity or rigidness. And if you can only go back and rediscover the original situation in which that pattern got set up, that then somehow you could release it or cure it. But you seem to be saying there’s something wrong in that approach. What is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which book are you referring to?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Psychoanalysis, for example.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, that in lot of cases we find if we trace back we find we can cure ourselves, physical illness, namely. Construction of a house, something like that. But, in the psychological level, that if you’re trying to trace back, that the person who traced back is also the screwed-up person. And by tracing back, you don’t get any objective approach at all. It’s still conditioned by wishful thinking, or one-sided report anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it will be self-destructive at the same time. You bring out what things you want to hear, you want to release yourself from, which you are maybe completely wrong. That your desires are illogical in terms of objective level. But I think that’s the problem. That since the patient and the doctor both are belong to some category, that person got sick, and because, therefore, you trying to make himself into physician. You see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Well, yeah. Except that it seems a similar relationship is a student and guru. You know, that the subjectivity of the patient should be cut through by the doctor, just as the ego trips of the students should be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but if you have a guru, that’s another matter. But when you’re talking about freelance, or free self-made man’s point of view, that I have cooked up some good ideas that because I’m fucked up. And both is hopeless.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: So, what you’re saying based on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, for the very reason you don’t know what is a good ideas, in fact.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: The doctor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, the patient.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: But the-- but you’re saying also the doctor himself is fucked up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I’m not saying doctor himself is fucked up, but the patient trying to become a doctor. And the process the patient himself going through intense pain and confusion of his own illness, if he decide to become a doctor himself, trying to cure himself, then he’s no reference point except his own confusion. And that confusion leads further confusion. Because he can’t approach himself from uninvolved way. But he can always-- he’s always involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. But supposing he is working with the doctor, other than himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then, maybe, there will be fresh report, other than himself, his own vomit. That is the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2548.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Isn’t all that frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Isn’t all that frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of trying to help himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well, that whole intellectual, conceptual psychotherapy. I mean, isn’t that-- is that frivolousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say it belongs to the category of frivolousness, yeah. [laughter] Because for the very reason that you want to, what you should-- you think that you want something, and you should have something because of what you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2808.0,2849.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Is that kind of a clinic possible when you have, say, one doctor for 300 patients or high ratio like that? Or in a situation like that, is it also encouraging for the patient to scrutinize his own illness as much as possible from whatever objective viewpoint he can--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be impossible to do at some point. But, at the same time, the person has-- the person should try to relate with the uninvolved situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Uninvolved?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that, you know, he’s watching, looking at himself objectively. And then, that’s might be the relationship to his physician as well, at the same time. That he begin to understand his physician, because his physician is also relating him objectively, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2849.0,2911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is the shunyata experience breaking through the numbness? Or does it take something even beyond that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The thing what we are discussing tonight is related with-- highly related with tantra. And it seem to be in the mahamudra level, then purely shunyata alone. But, obviously, we could say that mahamudra experience is highly evolved shunyata experience, nevertheless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2911.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: We often differentiate between thoughts and feelings. And I’d like to know what, in the way that you-- when you talk about intellect and intuition, that seems to be different. Like last night, the other night, you discussed how intuition has to be developed. And I’d just like to know how that-- how intuition and intellect are different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seem to be different because one is feeling the ground, and the other one is experiencing the things related with that ground. That intellect is related with the things around the ground. But intuition is just simply sensing the ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yes, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very simply.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: But compared to the way that we talk about, in general, talk about thoughts, and thinking, and feeling, we make that differentiation a lot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: And that seems to be different than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it’s, crudely speaking, it’s the same thing. Thinking-- what’s the other one, you said?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Thinking and feeling.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, the feeling is related with the intuition, obviously. And thinking is related with intellect. And we could say there’s more subtle form of those. In fact, more awakened quality. But, nevertheless, the basic characters are in a similar situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=2943.0,3057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Is there such a situation where instead of having a state of total egolessness, you have a state of total ego? And it’s very horrifying and it’s very total? And is there any way to turn that state of total ego to total egolessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wonder somebody else could answer that. [laughter] Just a matter of exercise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Maybe like kind of completely blowing up the balloon, so that it deflates and bursts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something more than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: What do you mean when you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, let’s answer that question first. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is that when you start getting messages from the phenomenal world? It just starts shooting--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Messages from what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: When you prove-- [UNCLEAR: look forward to? before to?] you know, getting a flat tire and such.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but that’s slightly petty. I mean, this particular question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is that a point when you should stop worrying about the difference, maybe?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s not answering the question. 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But, nevertheless, there is temporary eternity of some kind. That you could really become a cosmic vampire is highly possible. 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And that’s usually what happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: It’d be like Adolf Hitler?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact, ultimately, our egohood is much more terrifying than that. I mean, he’s just miniature. [laughter] It didn’t take long time for him to fall through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: What of the experience of the bardo, of the wrathful and peaceful deities be incredibly horrific? Super horrific, if there was such an ego. The projection would be so painful, the light would be so irritating and brilliant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be the, yeah, basic understanding is that if peaceful deities’ case, you-- the brilliance, the sharpness is so intense. And the wrathful deities has that irritatingly mockery is too horrific. So can’t stand on your ego. That everything is re-bouncing to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=3462.0,3545.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: How do you know which way you’re going? Are you going towards egohood or for egoless?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on your deception. If you-- when you-- when we talk about deception is that you plan some strategy already, then you think what you’re doing is okay in spite of all the doubts that you have. That seem to be if you ignore your doubts, then you are going towards deception, which is egohood the same time\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: But when the person reach the highest state of-- or a high state, supposedly they have no doubt. They no longer have any doubts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, to begin with, if person is judging that their high state, evaluate in their high state, that’s in itself is a seed of egohood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755#t=3545.0,3611.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115876/file/219755/transcript/62585/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: If one continually accepts death, would that keep the ego from getting out of hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry, didn’t hear your question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: If one keeps accepting death, would that prevent the ego from getting out of hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, because you begin realize you can’t rule this country forever, or there’s no possibilities. 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