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Suppose that freedom -- the whole premise of an ideal situation in life -- turns out to be a myth? What will we do then? Paths we pursue in the name of freedom only result in further imprisonment. Instead, we should do \"nothing at all\" -- open up completely and allow all our neuroses, hangups, and desires to spontaneously arise. This leads to loss of ego, or fundamental hopelessness: a completely open state, free from pleasure and pain, but still with tension, or intelligence, involved. Meditation, then, isn't focused on euphoric states (jhanas), but on balancing tension and relaxation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 04 2024 to Feb 22 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCritically examines the constant search for freedom through academic, commercial, or spiritually materialistic endeavors. Suppose that freedom -- the whole premise of an ideal situation in life -- turns out to be a myth? What will we do then? Paths we pursue in the name of freedom only result in further imprisonment. Instead, we should do \"nothing at all\" -- open up completely and allow all our neuroses, hangups, and desires to spontaneously arise. This leads to loss of ego, or fundamental hopelessness: a completely open state, free from pleasure and pain, but still with tension, or intelligence, involved. Meditation, then, isn't focused on euphoric states (jhanas), but on balancing tension and relaxation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260331-1167548-j8sp2q.mpga"]},"duration":2108.38606,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/306/998/original/open-uri20260331-1167548-j8sp2q.mpga?1774976216","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2108.38606,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750204VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750204VCTR1 - Public Talk - Palo Alto - The Myth of Freedom] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, single public talk entitled The Myth of Freedom, recorded in Palo Alto, California, on February 4th, 1975. This is a CTI custom remaster made April 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Testing one, two. Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, at Palo Alto, February 4th, 1974, lecture-- 1975, lecture on the myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=0.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The Palo Alto Dharmadhatu, in association with the Bay Area Dharmadhatu, takes great pleasure in welcoming you here tonight, to hear our teacher, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=37.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question came up, about the myth of freedom, that freedom seem to be myth. That is to say, the ideal situation of life, which is questionable, and that is one of the leading points that we look for and we try to find out, and we set up departments of departments of faculties in university. And we have factories after factories after factories to produce myth of freedom, machine or drug, whatever it's may be. That we seem to be involved with that particular myth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=49.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But supposedly if you look at it from a point of view, that supposing if whole thing is myth, then what we going to do? And supposing whole thing is just purely based on idea of expectations, and nobody had actually been to the land of the freedom, and nobody had came back from that, and nobody had actually said that how it's like to be actually freed. Then what we [laughing] going to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=108.0,141.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we've done that already anyway -- nobody came back, nobody told us. Various prophet and saints of all the olden times supposedly have been there, and they have handed down some kind of instructions for us to work on it, but nevertheless we are uncertain whether we can keep up with that or whether such idea does exist at all or not. It's big question in our mind. And I think it is necessary for us to acknowledge that there is a problem, that is the case, already, in any case, and not trying to hope for the best. And somebody expresses its doubt and let us not just hush down. And it is necessary to look life very critically from this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=141.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That one of the problems that freedom can't be experienced is because that we search for freedom and very limited ways in our life. If you're old or young, whatever, that we want to do what we want. And a lot of people manage to do that, step out of their regular patterns of life and become a yogi, or become a monk, or become a hermit meditator, or become wiseman, or become a follower of student of somebody or other. We have done those things. And everything that we have done have met with nothing but further imprisonment. Once we have become vegetarian, so to speak, we have been imprisoned into becoming vegetarian-*ism*. We could become vegetarian-ist. And once we become a communist we think that that's the only way to liberate society, we become a communist. And once we become a Buddhist we thinking that's the only way, but once have become-- we have become a Buddhist, and so forth, that we have already set our patterns, that expression of freedom can only take place by committing ourselves into certain particular patterns, organizations, certain particular social norm, and certain particular dogma. And in turn that we have found ourselves nothing but imprisonment -- in the name of freedom of course. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=202.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ladies and gentlemen, let's look twice, thrice, into this question. It is very important to us that we should find out what we are doing, to begin with. And it is maybe necessary to not do anything at all, which is recommended. And by that mean not necessarily that just hang out, particularly. And in fact it is absolutely impossible to not do anything at all -- that's very hard to do, absolutely difficult not to do anything at all. When you begin to try not to do anything you begin to find yourself doing nothing not to do. [Laughter] And that had to become a problematic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=313.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's some suggestions might be necessary, is doing nothing entails that letting what you have -- your neurosis, your hangups, and your desire to be free person -- letting all those thing happen, spontaneously. And open oneself to the both the hope as well as the fear. Letting ourselves open to the freedom as well as the imprisonment, simultaneously. And that seem to be the only way that we can find some hopeless state. I wouldn't even call it liberation or freedom or salvation particularly. That what we really actually have to achieve is ideal hopeless state. That state that where there is no hope at all of either ways, hope of becoming a great-- involved in the great joy, or hope of becoming-- experiencing the utter plea-- utter pain particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=364.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the basic point is fundamental hopelessness. That traditionally, in conventional language when we talk about hopeless, we talk about \"you didn't do it, you didn't get it\" and \"you blew it\", \"you're a hopeless case.\" And we are not talking in those point of view. We are talking about hopelessness is some kind of larger scale of hopelessness. That nothing actually happens fundamentally, because we gave so much, we open so much. We open to the extent of beyond impossibility, so that we have achieved absolutely nothing. We haven't achieved pleasure, we haven't achieved actually pain, or we haven't had any working basis particularly at all. So that finally the rug is pulled under your feet. According to Buddhist metaphor this particular experience is called loss of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=454.0,520.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case of hopelessness is not so much of act of relief from fear, particularly. Or, for that matter, this is not particularly a sense of that you have given a project to achieve, something to do, crank up your machine, particularly. But this hopelessness is complete letting go, not particularly caring anything at all. Complete letting go. And letting go is very difficult thing to do, particularly if you let go. [Laughter] And letting go needs some sense of tension at the same time, that you are not just completely flopped like a jellyfish. But you are intelligently complaining at the same time on the process of letting go. Then you can really let go properly. If you are basically complaining, there is a [UNCLEAR: twirl?] of subtle irritation is still complaining about the whole thing, but at the same time there is a facade or there is a flash of openness and letting go. It's like a relationship between nerve system and your skin and your body, your flesh on your body. That there is a flash and your skin is relaxed, but at the same time your nerve system is still searching for, or some kind of process of complain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=520.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, our meditative experience that been prescribed very highly by Buddhist tradition is not particularly euphoric state, that you get into state of completely calmness and out of that everything's going to be okay. [Laughs; laughter] And there is immense sense of playing with the tension together with a sense of relaxation -- it's just like the manufacturing of a rainbow, which comes from the freedom of the wind and the tension of the rain which provides rainbow. And precisely the same way that the sense of that kind of openness can be manufactured, or provided -- using better word, probably -- is that our sense of tension, sense of that you are actually looking for something to do in your life, to find out ultimate meaning of who you are, what you are. Which is a painful subject, but at the same time that you are not particularly caring who you are, who you may not be, and sense of freedom, sense of letting go takes place at the same time. So the tension between the two actually becomes openness and relaxed situation, in the ultimate sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think I have already confused you enough, this point. Maybe we should get into a discussion. So if you like to ask any questions, you're welcome to do so, further clarify.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When Rinpoche recognizes you, if you'd wait until someone brings a microphone to you before asking your question it would help a great deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=623.0,754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Do you think it may be a natural tendency for a human being to want to discover who they are or to discover themself? Do you think it's something instinctive inside the human individual to find it to be true with yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's natural process, not particularly human beings alone but it is basic animal instinct that exist. That we have experienced, explored, about how to hunt, how to eat, and how to provide a cave in the prehistoric level. Then we become more sophisticated, conventionally speaking. That we found our apartments, we have found our buildings, and we have found our marketing food, and somebody begin to buy. And you begin to develop all kind of process of looking for a furthering of our search. And at the level of this particular process, that we have achieved everything that we can make possible ourselves physically comfortable. And then we begin to find something is wrong even then. Somehow, still, something is not quite right with the whole thing, and we begin to look further things and further mentality that we have achieved, we borrowed from the cave-dwelling mentality, still trying to seek for something further. Obviously that's kind of a fundamental cosmic mind still behaving like cave-dwellers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=754.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In this-- one more question. In this direction that man is instinctively going, I'm developing some confusion as to the freedom of letting it naturally flow and the restriction that we have associated thus far with getting trapped in dogmas or structures and things of this nature. And I guess my confusion is how does one distinguish between whether they are trapped in something, whether they have preconceived structures, or whether they're actually going with what we might consider the natural flow that I just asked about previously?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the natural process is very obvious, actually. In a sense that if something actually makes sense to us, what we actually looking for, actually it does answer our questions. We find some intelligence respond to what we are doing, opposed to that you're supposedly, just purely believe in everything and don't ask any questions, which is blind leading the blind. Which is-- basically the term is known from that point of view is \"love-and-lighties.\" SPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Love- and-lighties.\" SPEAKER2: I still didn't hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Love- and-lighties.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"Love-and-lighties\"? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Love-and-light. That you going to be saved, you don't have to put any effort to your synchronizing your intellect and your mind to what exist there. That teaching is supposedly coming to raining on you, that you don't have to put any effort and energy and that somebody's going to save you if you're wretched fish, and somebody going to come up with a hook, going to pull you out of the water. And that seem to be the problematic. And that seem to be the ultimate deception, that saving a lot of manual work, and it seem to be based on the traditional idea of automation. Do you see what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=852.0,1007.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What is your concept of grace?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I thought there was only one. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is a person called \"Grace\" and there is a concept called \"grace.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well could you define both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good one. [Laughter] Well, I don't think that's particularly extraordinary case. It's experience of environment in which that things could be operated in a very harmonious situation. That's the sort of dictionary equivalent of definition of grace. And further than that there is further things, that grace is manufactured by you and certain belief you have in the object of that the grace is descended upon you. And somehow that there is a question of unfulfillment of the grace, is usually the problematic to lot of people. That I am being actually sucked into that kind of environment. So the \"grace\" -- or the \"blessings\" in the traditionally known in Buddhist language, \"adhishthana\" in Sanskrit -- which is based on idea of descending something upon you which you have to contain, you-- in which you have to relate with. That you-- your container had to be solid enough to receive that particular very pungent and very powerful stuff into your system. Again, the question is that one has to develop oneself before you receive anything of that nature, that you had to develop a worthy vessel.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1007.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Last time I saw you, you spoke very forcefully of not shopping, and the intrinsic traps in it. But what if you really get a very strong gut reaction, that you really get turned on to something in the Buddhist tradition, and then you really get turned-- equally part of you gets just as turned on to say something in the Hindu tradition or something? I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Something in the Hindu tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In the Hindu tradition. Like a Hindu form, say a Hindu meditation or something, and you get turned on to some Buddhist teaching. Or can't you-- can't this not be shopping, in that your life could be the complete entity as opposed to getting involved in one particular teacher, one particular way of doing things, or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, thank you asking that question. I think it would help lot of people here. The question is, actually, that the-- I should have make-- I'm going to make a pitch for Buddhism, at this point here. [Laughter] That Buddhism is a nontheistic discipline. It does not particularly talk about external deities of anything, or the maker of the universe, or such things like that kind of a situation. Which is a universal definition of religion, once in a while, that it is been said by the World Congress of Faiths that, \"We all agree at once that we believe in this basic maker of ours. And we should work with that, we should try to glorify that. And in this heading that we are combined together our integrities, or whatever we have.\" Whatever bullshit we might have. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from this point of view, that the approach is very narrow-minded. And we are still-- we haven't lost our great, great, great, grandfather, that we have only record of them, written in the books. That we're still looking for that great, great, great, great, great father, grandfather, who had supposedly said certain things, and who are inspired to that great-grandfather. And we're trying to work with those people who had dealings with great parents, grandparents.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut in the case of Buddhism, that it is very modernistic in some sense, even in time of Buddha which is 2,500 years ago. That Buddha rejected existence of God, on the spot. That the maker of the universe does not exist, that you made yourselves. Therefore he introduced a new version of karma and cause and effect. It does happen: if *you* did something, something happens to *you*, so *you* did it. So therefore we have a chance to do something, and nobody's going to punish you, particularly, from that basis. And from those ideas that somehow that the Buddhism obviously is the nontheistic religion, nontheistic tradition, which does not believe in God.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut at-- on the other hand, that doesn't necessarily mean to say that Buddhism is anti-God, particularly. That Buddhism anti-ego, to begin with. That Buddhism talks about that nonexistence with your ego actually, basically, fundamentally, experientially. That who is-- who are you, what is you? And that we find ourselves perplexed by the whole question, but we don't exist, and the questioner doesn't exist, even the dialogue doesn't exist. Exis-- nonexistence, this point of view, is not substantial enough to provide an argument that \"I do exist, like totem pole in the midst of horizon.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSo from that point of view, since you actually have no substantial existence as you, Jane Smith, as such, and who you believe to doesn't exist either, because if you exist-- if you think you exist hundred percent, then obviously you exist accordance with your object of worship, which is so-called God. And if you exist properly, then God exist, obviously. But since we find ourselves unable to catch ourselves, unable to hold onto ourselves as basic spontaneous existence, which is solid and safe and sane, and because of that that there is no other-- nothing else exist beyond that as so-called God or divine being or whatever it's called. So from that point of view [laughing] that the question is whole flop.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think Buddhist way of looking at spirituality is the first and foremost humanistic and enlightened version of spirituality that ever discovered in history of mankind from that point of view. So I said that's why that I'm going to make plug for Buddhism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1179.0,1568.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could I elaborate? What if one basically goes along with that, but like in terms of like greater detail. I mean-- in like-- perhaps like one would like to meditate with one's eyes closed for example, or one is not at all scholarly and doesn't like studying dogma or whatever. I mean, how can one fit in to, like, the tradition and do those things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it does fit and it doesn't fit at the same time. So those little details are just a convention, basic norm of your habit. You have new habit of that you can sleep with your eyes open [laughter], and Buddhism doesn't reject that. And anything can go on, within the realm of possibility. [Laughter; laughs] I don't see any problems with that, particularly. That's just purely eccentricity of human beings.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Uh-huh. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1568.0,1648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: I've read many teachers who say that when the \"I\" thought is transcended, then there comes a realization that all this is an illusion, like a dream, and then one sees it as that. In other words you-- your consciousness is-- you're conscious of yourself, your real identity, and then all of this is seen as a dream. And I wonder-- I understand that on some level, on an intellectual level, and I hear you saying it, and I identify with that again. And I wonder if you-- how you see things? 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But then, do you see yourself as separate from me, as you are, you know, Rinpoche and I am some guy asking you a question or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's your name?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: Gary.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gary.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: Yeah. Or do you see--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gary what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: I see you as sitting over there--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gary what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: --as a separate iden-- an identity. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gary what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: I'm-- I think I'm Gary Geffy\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gary who?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: Geffy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Geffy?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: Yeah, Geffy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: I think I'm Gary Geffy, and I think you're Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. And I'm very, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My family name is Mukpo. [Laughter] My married name is Mukpo. That was the name from my family. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, the question is that I think it's extremely simple. That I'm talking to you -- not right now, but when you asked the question I'm talking to you. But now your mind is wandering, so I can't talk to you. And you're trying all kinds of effort to pull together, but still you are not quite with me. So that's very hard to do, this point, and particularly people-- room is full-- filled with people and that create a certain kind of distraction. And people listening to what we are discussing together, one-to-one point of view. And that creates a lot of problems. But other than that we are talking to each other as much as we could. And I feel that I'm talking to you, roughly speaking. And I feel that you are not right there with me, although I'm be put in the spot and be speaker, sat on the chair, so I feel I'm talking very much, and talking to everybody who ask question. That's not particularly involved with a higher conscious airy-fairy, particularly. That's my role is put in this particular spot, therefore I have to have more integrity and I have to say what I feel about the whole thing. And as far as I'm concerned, I'm right there with you, but as far you're concerned I feel you're halfway through. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1648.0,1928.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Would you please clarify the two tensions that must be maintained to achieve freedom? I'm going back to the lecture.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It wasn't really clear to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question is that there's intendency of-- there's a tendency of let go completely, which is purely dream level. There's a tendency to actually experience what happening, around you, which requires certain amount of tenseness at the same time. Which is being wake and tentative and open and level of nerve. Which we usually do when we are listening to something very important, or if you're looking at something very important, object, we are really there. That kind of intenseness is important, so in order to discover what we are discovering. And within that we cannot be too tense. If we do that then we begin to lose the whole thing, the whole thing becomes numb and we become imperceptible. So in order to go beyond that is there's sense of humor, sense of celebration takes place at the same time. Which allows ourselves to be tentative, at the same time be extraordinarily celebratory. And there is a feast, at the same time there is a personal meal taking place at once. And that can be done actually. And that can be only done actually [laughs] by practicing meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1928.0,2032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ladies and gentlemen, maybe have to close our meeting here at this point. I'm glad you are open to further questions, and that feels very good. But at the same time, in fact, lot of questions can be resolved by further intelligence within yourselves. And I would like to leave it lot of things to yourselves, rather than being answered by somebody else who is outside of yourself. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=2032.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92470/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There are three Dharmadhatus in the Bay Area. There is one in Berkeley, one in San Francisco, and the Palo Alto Dharmadhatu -- which isn't in Palo Alto at all, it's in Los Altos Hills. At the Palo Alto Dharmadhatu we have open house Thursday evenings at eight o'clock. There's information on the back tables, you could pick it up on your way out. Thank you for coming.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [from audience] Thank you, Rinpoche! [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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fundamentally,\nexperientially.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1436.19,1439.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That who is--\nwho are you, what is you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1439.07,1443.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that we find ourselves\nperplexed by the whole question,\nbut we don't 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Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1629.56,1632.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1632.22,1634.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED GARY GEFFY: I've read\nmany teachers who 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[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1728.33,1735.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I woke up\nthis morning,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998#t=1735.33,1738.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168777/file/306998/transcript/92471/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was half dream-state\nas I drove over here,\nI fell asleep in the 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