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Trungpa Rinpoche describes meeting Suzuki Roshi, \"the first genuine teacher\" he encountered in America. During a visit at Tassajara, Suzuki Roshi suggested a joint program on the psychology of American students, and Naropa's Maitri Program was born of those meetings. Also had \"lengthy discussions about prajna and emptiness.\"  Students ask what main issue is for Westerners studying Buddhism; Trungpa Rinpoche replies \"impatience\" and not being able to stick with practice.  Other questions include about monasticism versus lay life, what karma is and how to transcend it, relationship of spiritual development to emotions. Trungpa Rinpoche gives powerful explanations of how the mind works,  how meditation transforms neurosis into wakefulness, and how to bring mindfulness into post-meditation. He emphasizes the importance of having a meditation schedule to \"cut your karmic chain reactions.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Aug 20 2021 to Nov 16 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Al SanValentin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A compelling exchange between Chogyam Trungpa and Naropa's Buddhist Path students. Trungpa Rinpoche describes meeting Suzuki Roshi, \"the first genuine teacher\" he encountered in America. During a visit at Tassajara, Suzuki Roshi suggested a joint program on the psychology of American students, and Naropa's Maitri Program was born of those meetings. Also had \"lengthy discussions about prajna and emptiness.\"  Students ask what main issue is for Westerners studying Buddhism; Trungpa Rinpoche replies \"impatience\" and not being able to stick with practice.  Other questions include about monasticism versus lay life, what karma is and how to transcend it, relationship of spiritual development to emotions. Trungpa Rinpoche gives powerful explanations of how the mind works,  how meditation transforms neurosis into wakefulness, and how to bring mindfulness into post-meditation. He emphasizes the importance of having a meditation schedule to \"cut your karmic chain reactions.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/582/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471329","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19790709VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2608.79669,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/582/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471329","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/582/original/19790709VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1659964485","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2608.79669,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790709VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19790709VCTR2 - Naropa Institute - Meeting with Buddhist Path Intensive Group] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute, meeting with Buddhist Path Intensive Group, a meeting held in Boulder, Colorado, on July 9th, 1979. This is a CTI custom remaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: STUDENT INTRODUCTIONS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose we could start with a discussion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: These are the people who are going to introduce themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: These students are all part of the Buddhist Path Intensive--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --and have been sitting roughly three hours a day since they've been here, many of them for the first time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=28.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: I'm Kathy. I met you once before at [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. But this is the first time that I've sat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=54.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: I'm [INAUDIBLE] in '75. I was a Buddhist in Vietnam, and I was [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. It's the first time come to Naropa.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Especially to learn meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have you sat in Vietnam?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=64.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: My name is Thomas [UNCLEAR: Lippard?]. I've been sitting for about four and a half years, originally with Kalu Rinpoche for a year and a half, and then vipashyana-- shamatha-vipashyana for about a little over three years. I live in Berkeley now. I'm with the Dharmadhatu there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=92.0,113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: My name's Tom and this is my first time sitting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where you come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well I guess Connecticut right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see, mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=113.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: I'm [UNCLEAR: Duane?]. I went to Miami when the Regent was there for a weekend workshop, and that was my first introduction to shamatha meditation. And this is my first summer here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=129.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: I'm Karen Smith, and this is the first time I've sat. I originally came down here just for the summer, but I'm thinking about returning in June to do the M.A. program in Buddhist Studies.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=145.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: My name is Jean [UNCLEAR: Crosby?]. This is my first time sitting as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=162.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: My name's Tim. I'm in the M.A. in Buddhist Studies, and I'm doing practice now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=173.0,185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: My name is Reese. I've been working with a group of people to build a kind of contemplative retreat center, but the missing element has been that no-- none of us have been doing any serious sitting practice. And my life had been quite a neurotic mess, and sure glad I came here. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=185.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: My name is Mark. I'm the coordinator for the program. I'm also studying full-time [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So, [INAUDIBLE] together, everybody? Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, we could discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=218.0,244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I'd like to ask, I understand that you and Suzuki Roshi were friends?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Could you just talk about how you met, what your relationship was?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it was when I first arrived in this country. And we were working on the book, CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM, when the general prospects of spiritual discipline in this country was quite disappointing. And I have met with Suzuki Roshi, in Zen Center, and we had first meeting, resident Zen Center. And was extremely encouraged; it feels tremendous relief, that there are some real people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=244.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: You mean you met his students, and they seemed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They seemed fine, and as with himself of course, and that you felt it was real practice situation happening, and real dharma's been taught.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in the first meeting we got along extremely well. And then I visited him again in Tassajara, visited him again Zen Center. And we talked a lot about working with the students, and he actually did suggest that we should be doing some mutual program together, in connecting with, working with, psychological problems of the American students. So the real, first concept of Maitri project was born out of that meeting-- those meetings. And... we had also further discussions on-- lengthy discussions on, several occasions, of prajna and emptiness and things like that. Was very, very beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=311.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Can I ask, you said that you were a little bit discouraged about things here in the West, was that because there weren't many genuine teachers or was that because you felt that a Westerner's capacity, due to our lifestyles and so on, diminished our ability to understand or not to understand...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's, it’s one thing. That to begin with there aren't any genuine teachers, there were. And in turn because of that therefore students have nowhere to develop themselves. And that sort of snowballed that way. So it's bouncing back and forth of the teachers, or leaders, whoever they are, and their neurosis and students' ego. And it's... but I think generally the Western students understanding Buddhism is not particularly problematic, and in fact ideal in some sense. And once they learn how to relate with it, how to be a student, and how to sit, and their rest of the conclusions are quite obvious, so their-- the Western civilization as such doesn't particularly affect them. Although, I mean there are strong forces in trying to pull the other way, disruptiveness of it, but at the same time, they learn how to overcome that and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=389.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: So, does there seem to be one particular force in Western life that's particularly opposed to the study of Buddhism? I mean if you could just put it in one sentence or something, what is the single most powerful hindrance to Westerners in the study of Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we have to have two words for that. One is their impatience. And they have a great deal of difficulty in sticking to practice, and not changing, and not trying to make things comfortable and easier. And it's the concept of the people who are turned on to \"latest stuff.\" So they leave the older one, previous discoveries, so there is bouncing all the time, that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: As soon as it gets familiar they give up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, impatience, boredom. And that seem to be the one factor. And the other factor is that starting from the schooling, you know, as you are a child, checked in your school and educational process, is to be told that build your ego. And people have very little understanding of letting go and surrendering. And so constant struggle of regrouping ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich comes from somewhat the basically theistic culture, of some kind. Which then translated into a materialistic culture. A lot of them agnostics, but still they have that philosophy. The educational system is interesting one, that things become less organic and more hardcore, to build one's ego, and obviously that's why we have Naropa Institute and trying to have good education system. Whoops. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=490.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, would you not mind if I ask you a question on a book you have written about -- the way I understand it some people criticize you, for you have a family. And then the people said that \"you are tulku, you are Rinpoche, you are not supposed to, you know, lead normal life like people.\" I read this book but somehow I forgot the reason you give that you have to have a family. Would you please comment on that, because I forgot that, what you have written about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which book is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: One-- in one of your book you said that, to the friend that, \"I am a tulku but I am also a man, so I'm--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: BORN IN TIBET. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: BORN IN TIBET.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I read this book sometime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=661.0,708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah. Well it's interesting thing is that, I think main point is that we trying to relate with, *generally*, that Western world can relate with their life and Buddhism are not separate. That they could be workers, and they could be garbage man, and they could be corporate executives, or they could be anything. That they still feel that they are practitioners, they practice, so there's a connection with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd my own having family is also connected with that as well, is that one has to share what everybody is going through. And what it's like to have children, family, and pay your telephone bill and have your groceries done, and wash your dishes. And that kind of situation is-- becomes much more real. So people don't feel separation from practice and everyday life situation. And out of that obviously grows some basic monastic situations; if people are-- feel easy with it. And then out of that monasticism grows as well. And we hope to have eventually, very soon, that traditional monastery could be established as well. But monasticism *and* ordinary work. And lots of bridges, so that Buddhism becomes a living tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=708.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I wanted to ask you if you could talk about karma, the relationship with karma for the reacting mind? And also about karma-free action?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Relation to karma and the mind, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Reactive mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And also about karma-free action.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's quite basic I think. Just like we have four seasons, and it goes through its cycle, of in autumn the seeds fall down, and begin to sink into the oil-- I mean into the earth. [Laughter] [Laughs] And out of that you have spring, and seeds begin to open up, and you have flowers, and so recirculate that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd main point is seem to be basic neurosis. That every moment we are living on what we have done, that's why we are here. But because we are here then we reproduce further things, so it keeps on going that way. And that's one of the principle of practice of meditation, is in fact, is that cut through subconscious gossip first, and then beyond that cut through kleshas. Kleshas? Kleshas, neurosis? Yeah. And as we provide more gap in our state of mind, there will be absence of karmic seed. So as we build that seed further and further and by sitting practice, so eventually we will be free from larger karmic situation. Either it is good one or bad one. But, to begin with when we cut through our subconscious gossip, we produces good karma. So that next result is we are in a certain situation where we can practice properly, so that's a good karmic situation. And then within that basis of good karmic situation we practice further, so even that good karma is cut through. So then you have free from karmic situation altogether. The chain reactions of the nidanas -- twelve nidana, studied about that? -- is being slowly cut through that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=840.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I've-- this has been a very supportive situation for me, that basic feeling of sanity is-- I feel like it's-- I feel like I made friends with myself. And I really-- I want to-- I really like what's been happening to me here, and yet-- and-- but I have this feeling I have to go back and deal with my life where I've come from. But I'm frightened to go back because I'm frightened to become-- to go back into those old patterns. And I'm just wondering, maybe you could like-- I know I have to-- I want to go back, I want to work there. I just want to know if you could say something maybe, something I can keep in mind when I go back there, and have to deal with life as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's, seem to have a twofold situations. One is a very immediate one, is while you are here, try to develop your schedule, practice time, and sleeping time, eating time, which you have if you're living together. And when you return, you have something like that in mind, so that your daily life is been orderly; so you can practice certain time and work at certain time. And another thing is that not purely reliance on purely the schedule alone, but also have a general mindfulness practice. That there is awareness in whatever you do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I think you *can* do it, but it demands a lot of discipline. And also, ideally, take a certain time off and sit for, like nyinthun style, several days or even a day, you know, you could be that several times in a month, something like that, so it can recharge your sitting discipline, then get back to your schedule. It's things are very straightforward, and out of that, you know, when there is order in life, that brings a lot of tidiness, so that they-- loose ends don't become an obstacle, and they become a working basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=984.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I have several related questions. Do you see any conflict between spiritual development and emotional development? And can a person work toward enlightenment, on the spiritual level, and at the same time move toward emotional actualization, in the sense of Maslow, at the same time? And then could you say something about the psychological life, where a person has achieved enlightenment. In other words when the ego is dissolved, just how much of our psychology is left?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Psychology is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How much of our psychological life is left?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by “psychological life”?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Basically everything that goes from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1137.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well it seem to be same thing. The practice of meditation is to overcome neurosis. And then there is the other aspect, which is that your particular expression of wakefulness is in you already. So that particular energy is not diminished, but the neurosis around that energy is overcome. So, it seem to be saying same thing. That there's no really separation between the two. The emotional life is a product of the basis of practice of meditation. Which has different levels, that the actual neurotic thoughts and actions goes with it. And then there is the subconscious gossip which links one neurosis to another, which is slowly cut through. So that end product is that-- is wakefulness, but you still retain -- like if you are sharpened your intellect you still retain your intellect, but your neurosis about intellect has been cut through. And that retaining intellect been transformed into wakefulness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1182.0,1274.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: There is no sense of, say of struggle against a part of your self that you might find for instance in Rinzai Zen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In one of the courses I'm taking, and they're making a point that in Zen there is often a anti-psychological bias, a bias against a person's psychological makeup, in terms of something higher. And so my question is more-- in a way, as you said, grounded that in the shamatha practice, so that type of situation is [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're saying there is a...? I don't understand again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I'm not sure I can make it clearer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Maybe you can you speak up a bit more?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1274.0,1328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: Okay. [Laughs] In one of the courses I'm taking, which is dealing mostly with Rinzai Zen, they're saying that there's no psych-- a bias against a person's psychological nature there. That in a certain sense it is being sacrificed for spiritual development.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I mean I understood your answer to say that this approach, that does not take place.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the approach here is we are not working with an analytical approach, as such particularly, but you just do your practice, which is consistence of techniques. And one doesn't have to check over your psychology, as you said, you know, there's no going back and forth and comparing notes. It's just-- I think it's exactly saying the thing. That in shamatha just work with the technique, which is the same as in the Zen tradition. And that's it. Out of that, lot of end products comes but couldn't care less particularly what happens, you know, just make it very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1328.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Could you say more about karma-free action? [Laughs; laughter] I'm sorry. I'm-- besides being outside of bad or good karma, I still-- I know I've heard it defined in different ways of being outside of psychological desire or intention or motivation and will. I was wondering, is there any other way you can describe it besides--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Free?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Karma-free action?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1399.0,1428.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Karma-free actions? Well those karma-free actions I suppose is, well, mindfulness, and working with the technique of sitting practice of meditation. And out of that some ideas of compassion, gentleness comes out, and working with the others. And expounding the dharma, to cut through people's neurosis, or one's own. And apart from that I don't see other freedom, particularly. It's very straightforward. And one can't just cultivate deliberately on karma-free actions, because you have to cut the root of it first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1428.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: With that notion I'm afraid to even get off the cushion, because everything I do [laughs] is karmically messy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's you have the right idea. But then, when you got out of the cushion you have mindfulness. Post-meditation experience we call it; mindfulness. Which maintains that momentum of karma-free state of being. So each time when you flash your mindfulness there is a gap, karma-free gap. It's quite hard work but, works.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1481.0,1519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Several things I'd like to say. First of all, I've been a student of yours for about three years, and I've never met you before; I'd just like to say hello. And I'm very grateful that you've come to this country, and that teaching as you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, I don't know it's-- sitting here, I've had at least a hundred questions come and go. It's slightly difficult trying to pick one out of the basket, but I think the most-- the thing that I'm curious about right now more than anything else is dealing with the passion, ignorance, and aggression. In terms of sometimes they're very light, the emotional impulses, and sometimes they're very strong; it's like overwhelming somehow. And it's like it will come up like a-- emotions will come up like an explosion, and then there's like redness, rage or whatever, and then afterwards there's \"oops\". And it seems like mystique, sometimes, it-- like there's some sort of a fluctuation, like awareness isn't consistent, or something like that. And somehow I-- you get a feeling that it-- I would like things to be a little bit more, not flat necessarily, but not quite so overwhelming at times. So that one doesn't act so impulsively. And I'm just curious, just, you know, just continuing to sit and continuing to deal with practice and life situations, is there anything, you know, is there anything else that can be done to be a little bit on the spot with emotions, sometimes? It just seems really-- I get really frustrated--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --you know, it seems to fluctuate. Sometimes mindfulness or, I guess you could put it that way, is very strong. And other times it's like one hadn't sat ever. And it's like the wind blowing almost: sometimes it's strong, sometimes it's soft, and it's just very frustrating to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, mhmm. Yeah. Well, I think-- you see even sitting practice is-- can't be regarded as a struggle. So there should be a settling down in one's practice, so you don't create the constantly warfare. Warfare?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1519.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And also the bodhisattva idea becomes very important there. The notion of friendliness to oneself, in spite of the ups and downs. And if there is some sense of friendliness to oneself, trusting oneself, then it would be less-- you'll be less jumpy. And we have a very elaborate training on that, it's called \"training the mind\", is how to be friends with yourself. Talking a little about in the other day's talk. And so when you begin to become-- and learn how to exchange oneself to others. And then one begin to feel you are trustworthy, and less jumpy. And that is the moment when you find bodhichitta in your heart. So I think that kind of practice is very important. And out of that, then things may not be be still-- things may not be all that calm, not necessarily, but they have don't have a big deals in them, you know. So you should study more about training the mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1680.0,1785.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: My experience here doing the intensive, in some ways it's been very good and very positive. And in another way, I've become a lot more sensitive to people and the environment, so that when things are said to me that might not have felt too painful before, I really-- I mean, not so much react to them but I feel the pain more. So when I think in terms of coming back in January, and I start thinking about well what kind of environment I want to place myself in, I don't know whether-- on the one hand I feel like I have kind of an urge to protect myself and I want to go off somewhere with a group of practitioners who are going to be a little more easier on me than perhaps people who aren't. But at the same time I don't really want to run away from life situations. But I would like something that supports your practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How important is it to seek out, you know, a supportive environment? Or is that, you know-- or is the desire to do that kind of relying on a crutch too much, to help you do your practice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1785.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think the general question of being more sensitive is a natural practice-- natural situation. That we have-- when we begin to cut through the subconscious gossip, and even work with it, and slightly listening, and calming down. Which allows you to see-- feel yourself more, so to speak. So therefore you become sensitive; like once the-- your blindfold is removed, that you might find that the world outside is very bright and irritating, because you begin to see so many things more precisely than when you had your shade on. And another situation of the supporting situation is that it is-- the concept of sangha is to have a practice environment of working with others, but at the same time you are standing on your own feet, so you don't lean on everybody. But at the same time you are inspired by the atmosphere. So that's the basic concept. So it is good to have alternating situations, ideally. That you have your own practice and also you have group practice happening. And physically in order to facilitate that we have like retreats, people do individual retreats, and then have a group practice like dathuns, weekthuns, or what have you, that kind of situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1866.0,1978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: Besides that what about-- I was thinking about living at maybe Marpa House or one of the practice houses, which... Do you think that that's helpful or is that too much of a retreat?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine, I think, that's all right. You should have also sitting practice regimen of your own, as well, so that you could be a group and by yourself; physical situation like that is fine. And I think generally the-- lot of members of the sangha are very helpful in the giving you feedback, but they're friendly at the same time. So that kind of relationship is very helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=1978.0,2024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: And I also have another problem connected [INAUDIBLE]. When I leave here in the fall I have to go back to Milwaukee, which is where my husband is practicing medicine. And he's been very paranoid about my coming down here. Even though there was a time when I went off to school for a semester, you know not together, but he's been very uneasy, about my coming down here. That somehow that there's something now that's going to take priority within the-- you know our relationship, that my relationship with him somehow isn't going to be as important. And I was wondering if you could suggest any way that I could help to ease his paranoia, because it seems like no matter what I say about my experience down here -- if I say some positive things or some negative things, somehow he's turns them all into some kind of paranoia. And I am not really sure, you know, exactly what to do, to get him to relax and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, that's interesting issue. I always tell *my* wife, I love the dharma first, and she is second one. And she had hard to accept that at the beginning but now she understand why. And I think the question is not so much what you can tell him, but how you develop yourself. And particular like husband and wife relationships or parent-child relationship, that words don't really say very much because they are already familiar with you and your style. They don't prove very much. And it's question of how you're actually developing yourself. And you are capable of including him in your life, in a larger sense. And not just purely have a little nest together, in the the midst of the world. So... greater vision.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: By including him in my life in a larger sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, including him in the larger vision of wakefulness. That he could take part in that as well. You could share enlightenment with him, rather than your little world. So it's a question of... scale in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2024.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I read in some books that the guru, teacher, if he's a real old man who has strength and power, he can transmit his power, a part of his power by can-- blessing, you know touching the head or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And you know much better than us about this, so you please explain to us how this could be done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm! That's sort of vajrayana question. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] today. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2203.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's not very simple one, particularly. There has to be a lot of processes that where a student begin to, at the beginning, learn to open up themselves, and some sort of devotion. And because there's that kind of devotion without any doubt, and therefore the teacher can relate with that person's mind. And we call it \"meeting of the minds\"; the student's mind and teacher's mind mixed together, so therefore student is able to-- capable of receiving the power of blessings. It's a two-way play, in some sense. There has to be some openness in student, therefore blessing can reached to them. And there are more topics on devotion also, sort of getting into vajrayana somewhat. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2239.0,2308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I was wondering, a lot of-- well, a lot of my friends in Hawaii who are students of Kalu Rinpoche's about four and a half years ago, had never done any type of meditation before. And they were given an initiation of Chenrezig meditation [INAUDIBLE], in my-- personally in my own case, it developed problems. It seemed to confuse my life, more than really help things. And a lot of people who had done the same thing that I did with Kalu Rinpoche started developing similar problems. And it-- I was wondering if in Tibet, if -- I know it sounds very strange, but people thought differently, or weren't quite so gossipy or something, so that one didn't necessarily have to do some sort of shamatha-vipashyana before going on. I don't know. It's just that I was just wondering, because Kalu Rinpoche teaches that way, and it seemed like that was sort of the ordinary thing to do. And I was just wondering if that was usually done in Tibet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2308.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's done usually in Tibet. Well I think of even our infant, who's maybe ten days old can receive abhisheka.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: How old?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that's actually what's called \"chinlap\", which is not full abhisheka; there is a difference between those two. \"Chinlap\" meaning a blessing, imparting blessing. And the actual abhisheka is empowerment, of becoming vajrayana student. So, particularly the Avalokiteshvara principle is that he is embodiment of compassion, and anybody have heard his name, had any contact with that principle, has already made people possible that they could cut through their karmic situations, whenever they are ready to learn. So it's more like a planting seed approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2388.0,2447.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in fact in Tibet that people receive hundreds of abhishekas from everywhere, they even don't know who-- what the abhisheka \"of\", you know, they just receive some abhisheka somewhere. And that's-- it's more of a \"contact\" concept. And usually those things are only applied to a layman who can't read or write, or they can't comprehend the teachings, so it's a sort of \"goodwill service\" situation. Whereas I think students in this country are different level of intelligence anyway, but they can also have doubts, which is interesting starting point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I think... well, a person could be made possible by receiving a blessing. And then out of that, maybe, like you are going to-- you practice shamatha-vipashyana discipline and then [INAUDIBLE] track back, and then go through the vajrayana properly. So that seem to be the process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Is it usual in Tibet to-- for students to begin doing shine meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well yes, they do. They do that. First thing is learn to sit and practice, yeah. Mhmm. Do you have anything to say? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2447.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41335/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm glad we met. And please keep on practicing. And as I told to this gentleman, that when you return, have your good schedule. And keep within your schedule good practice; that's very important, so that we will keep the momentum going that way. And I'm sure you'll cut your karmic chain reactions that way too. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=2551.0,2608.79669"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41336","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790709VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41336/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=0.89,5.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41336/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Naropa Institute, meeting with\nBuddhist Path Intensive Group,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582#t=5.1,11.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76187/file/164582/transcript/41336/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a meeting held in Boulder,\nColorado, on July 9th, 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