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Describes the mandala as a kingdom built from mutual sanity, greater vision, and the wisdom of the lineage. Includes rich descriptions of the mandala structure: our buddha nature at the center surrounded by the other buddha families (vajra, ratna, padma, karma) and the four karmas (pacifying, enriching, magnetizing, subjugating). Describes a kind of magic in the cosmos that allows for opulence, freedom, and delight to take place. This is a vajrayana vision of immense power that comes from the sense of no center or reference point. Although the mandala setup has been continuous throughout the yanas, it is accomplished in the third yana, becoming very personal, passionate, and visionary. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: [Q12] Discussion with Allen Ginsberg about the \"soft spot\" and spontaneous inquisitiveness."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["AUDIOCD: Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Nov 06 2018 to Nov 22 2020\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Matilda Perks\nFinal Proof: Ella Milligan, Travis May\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Powerful presentation of the vajrayana approach to the mandala principle. Describes the mandala as a kingdom built from mutual sanity, greater vision, and the wisdom of the lineage. Includes rich descriptions of the mandala structure: our buddha nature at the center surrounded by the other buddha families (vajra, ratna, padma, karma) and the four karmas (pacifying, enriching, magnetizing, subjugating). Describes a kind of magic in the cosmos that allows for opulence, freedom, and delight to take place. This is a vajrayana vision of immense power that comes from the sense of no center or reference point. Although the mandala setup has been continuous throughout the yanas, it is accomplished in the third yana, becoming very personal, passionate, and visionary. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: [Q12] Discussion with Allen Ginsberg about the \"soft spot\" and spontaneous inquisitiveness."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, held in New York City. This is talk number four, \"The Vajra Castle\", held March 22nd, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August, 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the fourth talk in the series, The Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, given in New York City, in March of 1976, by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This particular talk is entitled \"The Vajra Castle\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. Like to continue what we have discussed, night before. We have discussed the setting up our communication and larger tribal structure, in working with each other. There seem to be something more than that actually beyond that level, on this particular charnel ground, and on this particular tribal structure, that's taking place. There's a sense of a potential problem. That if everybody trying to save each other, there could be enormous conflict. Where that one person would say, \"No, it's not the case, I'm trying to save you.\" The other person would say, \"No, that's not the case, I'm trying to save you.\" [Laughter] And the charity begin to become confusion. And people fight for that particular situation, and have conflicts goes with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=41.0,153.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it is time to set up some kind of kingdom. That kingdom is largely based on individual sanity of particular people involved. That kingdom must be set up, in the way where not purely pyramid approach, but in the mandala approach. That kingdom is analogous to castle or building, where every brick, every post in that structure has to take responsibilities. If you look it back, we've gone long ways from the days of the charnel ground. And we have gone long way, beyond that, and now we are actually setting up structure. That particular structure is based on *mutual* sanity. For instance if one of the bricks being faulty, that could cause further devastating effect on the structure of that particular castle, building, or one of the people, occupants, are begin to also break down. And that also has lot of things to do with general problems that exist in creating this particular castle, or palace, whatever you'd like to call it.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=153.0,298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we become part of the kingdom, so to speak, that we become much more responsible. And every quality of our own basic sanity got to be like a diamond -- indestructible, clear, at the same time, radiating light. So shall we say diamond castle, at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=298.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we go further and further into the path, and our development goes with the path, that there seem to have some notion of further demand, asking for further *sanity*, which is not particularly unreasonable. That further sanity and further demand can have its own effect in individuals. That we begin to realize, whether you are the bottom of the wall, one of the bricks, whether you are one of the slate on the roof, that you have equal responsibility. So vajrayana kingdom this point is not impractical, it's *highly* practical, realistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=339.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the middle of the structure of this particular mandala, of a vajra castle, sits a person, who faces east. But at the same time this person has four faces. And one face directed to the east, another one to the south, another one to the west, another one to the north. That this particular lord of the universe, here, in the middle of the castle, is not particularly savior of the future mankind, or for that matter maniac from the fascist world, or idiot from the democracy. [laughter] But this person is a central point, where the directions can be felt simultaneously. \"Who is this person?\" It is *you*. It is *your* buddha nature. It is *your* intelligence. It is your power that can be in the center of the mandala.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=417.0,535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, surrounding this particular central figure, the experience, and the sense of vision, of four types of possibilities: the clarity of the vajra, and richness of the ratna, and warmth of padma, and fulfillment of the karma, which coincides with your personal problems so to speak -- hang-ups. The clarity of your anger, and richness of your pride, and warmth of your passion, and jealousness or the speedy quality of your particular fulfillment, action, are included in this particular castle of diamond, and very important. Castle is set up; it applies to *you*, individually. That you can set this particular castle, you could be the lord. This particular castle is also occupied by various other energies, that energy which directed towards needing to be pacified environment, or neurotic forces: enriching, magnetizing, and subjugating, so forth. And furthermore, there are reminders in this mandala that you are surrounded by this charnel ground, which is your case history, long time ago, maybe immediate ones, what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=535.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whole thing is extraordinarily personal. That we don't particularly trying to deify color and vision and images as being future saviors, but we *only* work with our own emotions that goes with this particular experience of being lord of the universe -- every one of us being lord of the universe, on the spot. How we work with this particular kind of vision, with our particular practice that we have, in everyday life situation; it seem to be very simple, and very personal, again. When we begin to assume a vision of poverty, that we find ourselves locked in in very awkward situations. Whenever we turn around corner, turn our shoulder way, to somewhere, that we find you are confronted with constant awkwardness, constant insult. And in turn we find ourselves very indignant, and pissed off and angry, at this and that, that, this, in every directions, very constantly. We feel we been pushed. We feel we been sucked in. We feel we been threatened. We feel we be neglected, ignored, we been overcrowded, and all the rest of it. [Laughs, laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=691.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The vajrayana vision is slightly different than that. I will say more than *that*. Not even slight if I may say so -- it's *totally* different, completely different. It gives you different manifestation of how the world manifest to ourselves. When we turn our head; when we look right, left; the way we move our arms, our hand, body. We find that there is immense power which comes from a sense of no center, no particular reference point whatsoever. But nevertheless, there's immense glamor, opulence. Immense space, immense freedom, immense delight takes place. Quite simply, without any reason, of course. Why should that be so? Because there is some kind of magic exist in the cosmos, which can't be conjured in books, or captured in experiences of somebody's testimony. But it exist at atmosphere, very simply, very directly. It is somewhat black and white, on the spot, but nevertheless it has all spectrums of colors glittering outward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=833.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are trying to emulate the mandala setup that we discussed, in ourselves, by example, from the sanity that's been handed down from the lineages throughout ages. Things been handed down through the lineage, consist of all those power, dignity, clarity, compassion, and so forth. That we are not trying to fake anything, or for that matter we are not trying to apologize anything, but everything becomes apparent. Having experience the teachings and lineage, becomes a personal experience. The mandala setup continuous, but at the same time accomplished this particular point of... in the third yana of vajrayana discipline. And it become very natural and personal, at the same time. And equally also it becomes very passionate. It's very visionary. We can use all kinds of adjectives to do that, to describe that, but nevertheless, it is *huge* mind that’s working on this particular thing. Not actually working, but *happens* that way. It's greater vision. It seems to transcend whether we can afford to pay dues every month. And as simple as that.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. If you like to ask any questions, you are welcome. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=987.0,1153.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, are you saying that there's no reason to have chiefs and Indians? Or Indians and chiefs?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which level you are talking about? Are you talking about the tribal structure or the mandala structure?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Vajra castle structure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The *vajra castle* structure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is already chief, which is *you*. That you are trying to emulate from the vajra master, which is another chief, if you can't make it.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1153.0,1195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Manu?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What is personal without ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Personal without ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you think there's a problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not really. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] You have insight, and compassion, softness, but not trying to hold the territory. It's very simple, as you said. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1195.0,1238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I'm afraid this is elementary but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oops. Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --why are there only four energies instead of five, if there are five buddha families?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The one in the middle is the fifth one, or the zero one -- whatever you like look at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1238.0,1261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And then I wanted to ask you, if there were a group of people, all of whom were-- had constructed each one his personal knot mandala, and how would they relate to one another?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems they can only relate with each other through the vajra master, which they try to emulate, try to work with situation. But once you set your own mandala, there's no problem. Because one of the problems that tend to happen is that you have some sense of personal concern, where, you don't want to invite or give in to anything. That the whole world become big mandala already. I don't see any particular problems there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, would you say that the group of people is also constructing a mandala together?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what we are doing here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1261.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: As you're building this castle or mandala, how important is it to stay in contact with a charnel ground as some kind of source?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as you realize what is around you, which says *everything*, that four directions, and everything, it seem to be natural and important, absolutely. But, that should become natural at that point, rather than particularly cultivated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But it's still there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Naturally. Yes, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1337.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Could you talk a little about self-destruction? Because it seems like that-- like every time you get any kind of a glimpse, of like a vajrayana kind of vision that you were talking about you just like -- it's so frightening, to have that kind of power that you just like deny it and say that didn't happen? You know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a great question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You're not kidding [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fantastic. Self-destruction happens automatically, if the footing is wrong. So therefore, the idea is being that more familiar with the charnel ground and the tribal structure to begin with, we don't build the castle immediately, as far as individual case goes. And otherwise it becomes very destructive, naturally self-destructive. So it does-- see that seem to be the mechanism. Like working with the fire, as they say. So it is very tricky thing to do, get involved with that particular practice. Might be worthwhile spending longer time being tribesman, first, before you build your castle. Or even be a baby and work with the charnel ground, for that matter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you say that the danger involved in that is losing touch with the soft spot?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say at all. Vajrayana is mostly dealing with the soft spot. It's so passionate, but on the other hand it's so harsh. You're bringing that together. Is fantastic experience. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Does that ever become overindulgence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you'd be *cut*, by your precision. As they say, \"wicked has no rest.\" That happens, that point. There would be all kinds of messages, signs, reminders, which wouldn't let you just indulge and lie back, in your rocking chair, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1391.0,1544.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Krogue? Krouk?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: One of the things that was staying with me for the past few days was when you were talking about the split, and the nuisance and the inspiration that was created. And it seemed that tonight you were talking more on inspirational level than you were the past few days when we were talking about the -- almost the nuisance of the charnel ground, in the sense of the jackals and the wolves and the ravens eating and... And tonight's just seemed considerably more inspirational in a polarity, in a polarity but... somehow I felt that there was the insight and the awareness of that inspiration and that nuisance is what we were working with in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes indeed. Yes indeed. If you don't have the basic problems faced properly first, we can't even lay our hand in the building the diamond castle, anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1544.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, the-- what is the relationship to the charnel ground, of the lord of the universe? Is it just a landscape that is looked out upon? Where do the supplies come for the kingdom? Is the king--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where does what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The supplies come? How does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What supplies you are talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well how does the kingdom sustain itself? How-- where do the bricks come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where do the what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The bricks, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Churps?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The *bricks*, [laughter, laughs] the bricks.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The bricks, yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Where does the food for the feast come from? Where do the diamonds come from? Do they-- does all of that-- [laughs] as each of us, comes from the charnel ground through a process, do all of the supplies come in that same way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It comes from charnel ground, obviously. The supplies come from the charnel ground itself; that's the only land there is. But I don't see any problems there. I even don't know why you ask such question at all. Since we have only experience of land is the purely the charnel ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Some way in which it's still...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we don't have to buy or purchase particularly, we don't have to hustle particularly, but once we have a sense of experience, and being a complete native, we could provide our own resources, on the spot. It's question of being native *enough*, in our *own* land. That seem to be the problem, or merit, of being hinayanist practitioner and mahayanist practitioner.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well I have sort of images of being in the castle, and looking out, and does one still see the jackals and the vultures ripping apart human flesh? Is that the landscape?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they must have trod on the ground of some kind rather than they're doing their thing. Because--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --the ground goes with it too--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --the hills and the mountains; it's not the actions as ground. Action is just a fickleness that goes through the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. I sense that my question comes from some sense of... claustrophobia that seems to be what the charnel ground feels like in samsara -- piles and piles of limbs, with no space for walking. And it seems that in-- from the castle, there's plenty of space [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Help yourself with everything, [laughter] including the claustrophobia. That's part of the hospitality. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1620.0,1869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Could you say something about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oops. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --the [laughs] balance--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Project. [Laughter]. Yeah, please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --of discipline and spontaneity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the conflict?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I can only give a personal example.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: All right. [Laughter] I like coffee.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You like what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I like coffee.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Coffee?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Coffee. Yes--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and I like rocking chairs.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What brand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs, laughter] Bustelo. [Ed: brand of coffee]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yes, indeed [laughter]. So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And I like rocking chairs.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's what I would call spontaneous. But the balance of that in our life with discipline, how much control do we have, do we exercise, over our mandala situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say that you shouldn't trust in your particular, favorite brand. [Laughter] And not sticking to your favorite brand and buying something terribly bad, is not regarded as a discipline or nor as regarded as indulgence particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's what I don't think I-- I think I-- I'm not clear about, not that I will be anytime soon, but-- [laughter, laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any particular problems there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: About what the difference between indulgence and spontaneity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Indulgent is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is indulgence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very simple. It is providing further patchworks on your irritation and confusion that you might expose yourself too much to yourself, or rest of the world. Trying to put a patchwork is indulgence. Spontaneity is very simple -- that certain things that you experience are might be regarded as somewhat *animal* instinct, but nevertheless it is regarded as first thought is best thought, at the same time. That comes with the buddha nature. So you may drink your coffee. [Laughter] It's kosher. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=1869.0,2026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman with the glasses over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I wanted to go back to something you mentioned in the very first talk about a kind of inquisitiveness, or discriminating awareness of some very *small* kind. For some reason perhaps we get curious about the charnel ground, and experience situations in the way that you described in one of the talks -- the way they come and go and evaporate and spin out, and then fall away, and somehow you're a part of it, and you get born and die with the same-- with each situation. I was just thinking that it seems your description of buddha nature *is* inquisitive mind in some way without direction. That the lord of the mandala perhaps realized that there's no possibility of maintaining sense of direction. No sense of maintaining a hold on the charnel ground. So there's no--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that lord of the mandala is like a spring; comes out of earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And once it's comes out, and it follows particular direction of where there is slope, flows down, and create a river, ocean, whatever you have.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I guess I meant the pathway that one takes in first experiencing the charnel ground in some sense, and then maybe--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's pathway-- there's no pathway experiencing the charnel ground at the beginning. It's just a total experience, there's no particular *journey*. It's just a simple exposure. To begin with the level of path of accumulation, which is the first basic ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I may be not being clear. I guess I just meant that the way in which perhaps it's experienced in the beginning is a sense of looking at specific aspects of it. And it seems that what you're describing is in the mandala setup is a totality without sense of selection, almost. There was like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --total experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you are right. Yes. So, there is conflict, eh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well maybe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well tell us about the conflict.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well... [laughs, laughter] Hmm. Well it just-- I suppose, I'm thinking about the experience of the charnel ground as not having much choice in the matter, really. And it seems to me that the way I approach in the beginning, is to select, and to filter. And it seems that what you're describing is a total experience, of the charnel ground without selection, without attempting to find direction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I guess that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --there's no conflict.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No conflict [laughter]. Right [laughs, laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [speaking Hebrew] L'chaim. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2026.0,2228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, when you were talking about the vajrayana mandala, you talked about immense freedom and delight and richness, and you described them [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] as magic. And at the same time you said that it was magic that couldn't be conjured.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And so I was wondering why you used that word \"magic\", particularly if it couldn't be conjured, since magic is usually associated with something to be manipulated or used in some way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well magic is not from the circus ring point of view, but *existing* magic. Why fire burns, and why air breathes, why earth sit-- it's very basic magic. That even scientists have very hard to describe the final mechanism where atoms actually taking place and they working, multiplying themselves, what have you. That kind of magic we are talking about; it's a self-existing trick. And a certain sense of chemistry, which has their own particular nature. And why we here at all, which is magic. That kind of magic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that clear enough? That's magic. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2228.0,2323.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mister Poet? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Could you go back and clarify? In the charnel ground, seeing ourselves and our actions as jackals, dogs, then you described a soft spot, which provides an opening or some direction to go. Or some self-existing magic in a sense, but is described a soft spot. And I missed that link, between the degradation and egotism of the charnel ground -- or the ignorance of it -- and where there was an opening to another view. The one example you gave was of the-- even jackals or even beasts love their young, as an example of some self-existing compassion. Can you give-- can you talk more about that opening there? And where the transition is, or where? Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well some sense of inquisitiveness at the beginning, which is part of the soft spot. If you're inquisitive to situations, that also automatically mean, that you want to take in, rather than you want to just purely attack. So you can't even attack anything, if you don't be inquisitive, if you don't take something in. And while you fight you have to breathe in and out -- simultaneously. That seem to be the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [speaking Spanish] Comprendo?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Yeah. So is inquisitiveness curiosity, just our own natural minds--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which you-- which is natural softness you know that turns in, out, simultaneously very fast.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Well then in that sense it isn't unrelieved charnel ground, to begin with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: In that sense, it is not unrelieved charnel ground to begin with, because there is that natural spontaneous inquisitiveness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely. Definite. So we made another discovery, hey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2323.0,2452.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82221/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, maybe we should end this point. [laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2452.0,2454.99125"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760322VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=0.47,4.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seminar entitled Mandala\nPrinciple and the Three Yanas,\nheld in New York City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=4.19,8.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number four,\n\"The Vajra Castle\",\nheld March 22nd, 1976.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=8.5,15.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade August, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=15.05,21.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This is\nthe fourth talk in the series,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=21.37,23.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Mandala Principle\nand the Three Yanas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=23.79,26.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in New York City,\nin March of 1976,\nby Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=26.42,32.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular talk\nis entitled \"The Vajra Castle\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=32.17,37.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=41.57,45.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like to continue\nwhat we have discussed,\nnight before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=45.74,54.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have discussed the setting\nup our communication","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=56.69,65.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and larger tribal structure,\nin working with each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=65.85,74.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be something\nmore than that actually\nbeyond that level,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=76.47,81.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on this particular\ncharnel ground,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=81.23,83.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and on this particular\ntribal structure,\nthat's taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=83.33,89.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a sense\nof a potential problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=93.02,98.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That if everybody\ntrying to save each other,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=102.07,111.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there could be\nenormous conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=111.24,115.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where that one person would say,\n\"No, it's not the case,\nI'm trying to save you.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=115.93,124.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other person would say,\n\"No, that's not the case,\nI'm trying to save you.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=124.54,131.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the charity\nbegin to become 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Comprendo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2419.68,2420.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: Yeah.\nSo is inquisitiveness curiosity,\njust our own natural minds--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817#t=2420.9,2424.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154718/file/283817/transcript/82222/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which you--\nwhich is natural softness\nyou 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