{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/804xg9g62b/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1978-02-15: Naropa Institute: Meeting with Core Students"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1978-02-15"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Meeting"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/243/show\"\u003eNaropa Institute: Meetings\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Meeting with Core Students"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Naropa University History"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A meeting between Trungpa Rinpoche and Naropa's core students.  Students ask a number of cogent questions: about meditation and education, definitions of Buddhism, Naropa's place in the educational world, clinical psychology, academic credentials.  Trungpa Rinpoche defines Naropa approach as bringing intellect and intuition together.  Buddhist principles of \"monarchy\" and democracy not opposed, but former holds the Buddha as example, showing people how to wake up, a \"flower with leaves.\" Describes Naropa students and administration as both developing sympathetic attitude toward each other, taking a mutual journey. Difference between practicing meditation as a \"Buddhist\" or not, says sitting practice is \"just trying to discover who we are, simply... discovery of  'goodness in man', tun[ing] ourselves into fundamental positiveness.\"   Student doing internship at mental health center asks about giving medications; Trungpa Rinpoche says psychological problems can be overcome through environment, but in extreme cases medication a tool to being receptive to sanity.  Other topics include the purpose of meditation; how art fits with vision of Shambhala, mental health clinics based on Buddhist ideas. Naropa as about constant exploration, not \"taking over the world.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["May 21 2021 to Jun 10 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Leandra Ziegler Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1978"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A meeting between Trungpa Rinpoche and Naropa's core students.  Students ask a number of cogent questions: about meditation and education, definitions of Buddhism, Naropa's place in the educational world, clinical psychology, academic credentials.  Trungpa Rinpoche defines Naropa approach as bringing intellect and intuition together.  Buddhist principles of \"monarchy\" and democracy not opposed, but former holds the Buddha as example, showing people how to wake up, a \"flower with leaves.\" Describes Naropa students and administration as both developing sympathetic attitude toward each other, taking a mutual journey. Difference between practicing meditation as a \"Buddhist\" or not, says sitting practice is \"just trying to discover who we are, simply... discovery of  'goodness in man', tun[ing] ourselves into fundamental positiveness.\"   Student doing internship at mental health center asks about giving medications; Trungpa Rinpoche says psychological problems can be overcome through environment, but in extreme cases medication a tool to being receptive to sanity.  Other topics include the purpose of meditation; how art fits with vision of Shambhala, mental health clinics based on Buddhist ideas. Naropa as about constant exploration, not \"taking over the world.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/578/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469450","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19780215VCTR2-Audio-Prod-ARCHOrig-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4256.94031,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/578/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469450","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/578/original/19780215VCTR2-Audio-Prod-ARCHOrig-Access.mp3?1659963889","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4256.94031,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780215VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19780215VCTR2 - Naropa Institute - Meeting With Core Students]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute meeting with core students at Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado on February 15th, 1978. This is an un-remastered Archive original recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=0.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nWILLIAM MCKEEVER: --beginning of Naropa Institute, and has been very much its guide ever since, which is above and beyond his official function as president of Nalanda Foundation. So the idea here this afternoon is primarily for us to have a chance to talk with Rinpoche about both our ideas, our experiences, our questions about our work here at Naropa. So I'd like to encourage you all to be outspoken and direct, and please ask what's ever on your mind. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=23.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I thought we could just have a discussion and see what comes out of it. So, please. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: We talk about putting together intuition and intellect at Naropa. And I was wondering--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Putting together what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=83.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Bringing together intuition with intellect. And I was wondering how intuition fits in with scholarly work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think quite simple. That we have... we have the situation to study.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Situation to study. And we look at and trying to find out how that particular discovery is fits with our life. And on the process of trying to become intuitively tuned with what we are doing, then intellectual we begin to find out as well. I mean, that's question of like if you're ordering a meal in the restaurant. And you feel hungry first, and then you decide to go to certain particular restaurant and you look through the menu; then you order it and then eat it. So, I think it's-- whole thing's very simple that way. It's question of what calls for. And beyond that, then we begin to examine it intellectually; and also try to find out whether it fits with our intuition at the same time, whether it's worthwhile pursuing. And when we find it's worthwhile pursuing, then you have intellect and intuition together. And it makes sense to us, whatever we are doing so... it's just kind of a natural process, very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=127.0,251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: I'm just not sure exactly what the intuitive knowledge is. It's like the hunger or seeing it, how it relates to your own experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose, largely based on hunger. Which means there's some kind of interest and some kind of willingness to experiment. Which also should be absence of slothfulness and laziness and some kind of false pretense of satisfaction -- free from that. Some sort of general idea of being woken up, you know, daytime. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=251.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I've heard that Maezumi Roshi is setting up some kind of school himself in Los Angeles, and that Naropa is trying to work out a relationship with that institution. Could you talk about that, what's going on with Maezumi's scene in L.A.?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's quite simple, this point. It's simply that he has found an institute called Institute of Transcultural Studies. And under that, presently very much of Buddhist approach, Zen approach, Zen teachings -- studying the text and that kind of thing. And also, there are some language courses been presented, Chinese and Japanese and Pali and Sanskrit. The situation is that Naropa Institute could work together because the general inspiration is being the same thing. And also Maezumi's particular appreciation of Naropa Institute, he's been there himself. In the summer, there's going to be-- his chief disciple is going to come and work at the module. So presently, it's just question of open relationship. And we are just trying to find out how we can work together. The idea is to have some kind of exchange program. That students here can go there, attend his courses, and his stu-- their students could come to us, at the same time. Nothing is particularly fixed at this point but just it's an open situation. And I think that the sitting practice that been presented to the students and the language course is very helpful to our students too.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut this whole thing is just yet to be seen. There is tremendous enthusiasm and trying to work together. And presently not exactly knowing what is that mean. So I think his -- they call it I.T.S. -- has to evolve more. Institute of Transcultural Studies had to evolve more. And we have to provide some kind of gap, openness. So when that happens, something will develop. And particularly we are quite weak on the languages at Naropa Institute, so I think that would be great help if we could work with Maezumi's institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=312.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In one of your community talks, you compared democracy to monarchy. And I got a sense of real positive potential from a situation of monarchy. But I'm wondering if that situation can actually function correctly in a Buddhist community if we have some idea of you and the leaders as being greater and us as lesser. I'm wondering if we can't just accept this situation, rather than having some reason for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=534.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think situation is-- question of leadership is interesting one. That we have a sort of living organism of human society, and we trying to establish some kind of brain in that organism or decision making factor in that organism. So we develop a head and some of the situation being divided into tentacles or limbs. So there's two kind of examples -- one is sort of octopus type, and the other one is sort of human body type situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, democracy is more the octopus type situation, have lots of tentacles everywhere and trying to grope for-- trying to help its head or brain to make decisions, feedbacks that way. And the other situation is like human body where we have a relatively very simple physique; we have two arms and two legs. That's it, more or less -- and fingers and so forth. Then we have, basically, big head and big brain. And we don't have to grope too much trying to find our way to the home-- to home; we don't have to feel the road with our hands and knees, but we just think and we walk. [Laughs; laughter] So how badly your limbs are bad shape, but still it works.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=584.0,708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's-- idea is not so much of monarchy opposed to democracy as Western theory is concerned, particularly; but in the Buddhist situation, we are talking about guided by your intellect. Leadership is not so much to put lid on the public, which has been misunderstood in the West all the time. When you talk about hierarchy, you think about lid so make sure that the what inside the pot doesn't boil over. So that's not our approach, particularly. And it's question of instead of being lid, it's like flower with leaves, so that the greenery is be beautified by having a fruit or flower or something like that. So it's question of more *up* going process rather than suppression, particularly. So people can actually wake up and stand and open themselves. That seem to be the concept of hierarchy is to aspire to something, like Buddha who was ordinary human being and he worked on himself and attained enlightenment -- and as we talk about taking refuge to the Buddha as an example. So it's that kind of up going process. Which you could call monarchy or whatever you like, but it's not same monarchy as we are be told by the school books, particularly. It's different kind of situation. So it's more of a big head. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=708.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Relevant to this topic, at the situation that exists here at Naropa now, there seems to be a lot of concern involving the hierarchy in terms of the administration, staff, student situation; and the problems that are involved in trying to maintain a communication between those three bodies, and what we can do to help that happen. And although there's a lot of concern along those lines, there seems to be a great problem in finding something constructive to do. And I wonder if you have anything to say about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=822.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think not very much, but what you said is right. That I had a meeting with the administration and faculties in the past, few weeks ago. And I think the question is if you begin to feel that everybody's on a journey, rather than that administration is kind of purely furniture and you are waiting for the customers to come and use it, in which case then you have a sort of static situation, and also that you can't dance properly with your furniture. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=862.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question is, I think if the students view the administrators and leaders are also on a journey like themselves, and have that kind of sympathetic attitude with each other, then there's no particular problem at all. I think question is just have a sense of that we're all moving, you know, rather than there is a distinction between the two. You know, I mean, fundamentally that since everybody is made out of human beings, so to speak, so [laughs] there shouldn't be any problem, and everybody has same level of ups and downs, excitement and depressions, you know, and a sense of sometimes being stuck on the journey and sometimes you feel great, sometimes you feel bad. So everybody feels the same thing. So therefore, it's question of not making whole thing into a big product necessarily, big deal, but just, you know, natural sort of human situation. It needs a lot of gentleness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=909.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that has been the problem with the American studentship in the past. With lot of students are bunch of angry young people who break down the windows and the doors and typewriters, and have demonstrations and go against the administration, and regarded that as field work, field study. [Laughter] In our case, hopefully we could develop everybody have some gentleness, trying to help each other. We are not on a particularly big ego trip of trying to propagate one particular dogma in Naropa Institute at all. So once we don't have that kind of, you know, one-pointed dogma, it's very workable and very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1002.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You say that at Naropa Institute there's no propagation of any particular dogma. But at the same time, there's an underlying feeling that the institution's definitely Buddhist. Now, a lot of us have come into contact with sitting practice here and do that practice, but yet do not affiliate formally with a Buddhist organization. And I was wondering if you could comment on what kind of difference there is in that kind of practice, if one is not following a formal Buddhist path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you do? What do you study?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Psychology.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Psychology. You sit?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1080.0,1118.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, I think question is that sitting practice is not trying to build yourself up or break yourself down, particularly. But sitting practice is just trying to discover who we are, simply. And according to Buddhist terms it's called discovering buddha nature -- or you can use \"goodness in man\", whatever you like to call it. So we just trying to tune ourselves to fundamental positiveness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1118.0,1163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question about dogma is that when we talk about dogma literally, it means somebody came up with a bright idea outside of yourself, and then everybody trying to live up to it. Which is an alien situation from you, but still trying to be like that. You know, it's kind of artificial situation; then it becomes a dogma. Where things are very natural, you know, like nobody regard as eating food is dogma. Everybody eats it every day. But it's natural situation; it's organic situation. So sitting practice is same as like eating food and what is need for you to evolve yourself further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1163.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Buddhism, so-called Buddhism, is not so much of \"ism\", particularly. It's just ideas evolved around that sitting practice, the discoveries you make about yourself. So I suppose on the other hand, you could say that we have some kind of dogma. But fundamentally speaking, we don't believe in unifying-- I mean, we don't believe in uniformity. That idea is when everybody is evolved, developed, that you don't expect that everybody should conform to certain, particular model. People would develop their own style -- some people slow, some people fast, and some people are sharp and some people are deep, you know. Different styles could be, there's lots of room for it. So there's no question of standardizing anything. So that's the basic point of where there's no dogma. If there's dogma, then whole thing had to be standardized. Try that. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1209.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you say what the difference is between a Buddhologist and a Buddhist scholar?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should ask Reggie about that. [Laughter; laughs] Okay, let's let him talk. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nREGINALD RAY: Well, I suppose Buddhologist is a person who is trying to create some kind of fortress for himself through his study. You know, it becomes a vehicle of his own personal ambition, rather than part of his own discovery of who he is -- something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1308.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the question is that -- actually \"Buddhologist\" is American term. We don't have that kind of thing in Europe and not in Tibet. [Laughter; laughs] People who had made names for themselves and titles and degrees for themselves, badges for themselves. And very aggressive people, lot of them. Very critical people. And they probably knows the languages, and they have some fixed idea of what Buddhism is. But largely, whole thing was inspired from purely comparative studies, where that they trying to present Buddhism as, in some sense, as anthropological surveyor. That ways of the world, that, \"some people are Buddhist, some people are Christians, so the Buddhists does believe in these things, strange things like reincarnation and, you know, and all sorts of philosophy like egolessness, and all things like that.\" Well, then we could say just-- there could be just simple Buddhist scholar who has possibilities of being practitioner, but not so much of studying the philosophy and religion as an anthropological discovery particularly, but just simply discovering of one's own existence by studying Buddhism. And such people also could be linguists too, but they have less aggression, and straightforward people. But the problem with the funding is people only give money to the Buddhologists. [Laughter; laughs] So we have to work on something. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1360.0,1487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Well... but there seems to be another problem also, which is that a lot of reading material is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lot of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: A lot of material to read, texts are done-- is done by Buddhologists, and there's hardly anything translated, or not very much translate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's always problem, but I think if you are practitioner, you can find out some nuts and bolts there. You have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Some what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1487.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nuts and bolts. You know, you can sort of dive in and use your own intelligence. And particularly in the reading situation, like Buddhist texts, for instance, translated by a Buddhologist. That if you take certain kind of attitude, certain kind of attitude of the message is altogether based on sanity and the practice of meditation, if you have that in mind and then you begin to read the texts, you find, you know, the texts begin to make sense as well. You begin to find that. And we actually have benefited lot by, for instance, reading Professor Guenther's books. Although it's very hard to read, but still, if you work hard at it with your practice along with it, somehow it does make sense eventually by reading maybe ten times over and over. [Laughter] At the end it does make sense. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What do you mean by nuts and bolts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nuts and bolts?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the key points, you know, nuts and bolts. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1516.0,1614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is the value in studying and discussing stages of the path in our classes without experiential context?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you study?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I'm in the MA psych program.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The Master of Psychology program.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well I think it's like-- in some sense, it is very helpful. It's like if you're being parachuted in middle of America in middle of night. And if you were given a map, and say, \"You be parachuted here.\" And so then you can find your way around, where to get your food and where to get your sleeping accommodations and what to expect, so that you're somewhat familiar with where you are. That seem to be the point. And also a question of that lot of situations that is studying somebody else's mind, which is very powerful one. That people in the past have practiced and gone through these stages, and they have left their remarks, you know, comments on how they experience themselves. So that sort of makes some kind of sense; the whole is real rather than purely fairytale situation. It's whole thing's real.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1614.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I've been doing an internship at a local mental health center.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And a large part of the treatment involves what are called antipsychotic medications, antidepressant medications.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And I always feel funny encouraging people to take those, because it seems like it has a general numbing effect and a sleepy quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And I feel funny about encouraging people to be numb -- it's what looks to me to be numb. And yet I-- I'm in the cultural situation of that mental health center so I go along with it, but I feel funny about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1726.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I understand, yes. Well the question is, I think it's very hard, that psychological problems can be overcome largely by environmental situations, obviously. And that is to say, are amiable people around and suitable lifestyle situation, including food and living accommodation and that kind of -- in other word, that if you have ideal situation, that you have sane society and you take the crazy people there, so then they begin to get something out of the sane society; so could rub on each other, and it begin to become workable. Which is actually what we trying to do is some sort of develop that kind of world of where things don't had to be told, particularly, intellectually, but people could felt that way. And somehow, in extreme cases obviously, since there's no such thing as real magic from that point of view, so one has to prescribe some kind of medicine. But idea is if the medication could lead to ideal situation -- or some kind of ideal situation, some kind of experience of sanity from somebody's point of view -- I think the medicine could be bridge rather than cure for its own sake. And I don't think any kind of medicine will make really person sane, particularly. It's impossible. Because the-- you're giving another kind of pill of madness to compensate some another kind of madness. So if somebody is excited, you give another madness, which is-- you calm down. If somebody's too doped up, then you perk them up by giving another kind of madness. So there's no end; it's vicious circle. But some kind of living, physical situation, environmental situation -- if you could work towards that direction, you know, that's the only way. But a person sometimes had to take chance and had to cut medication fairly rapidly in order to make some kind of, you know, breakthrough. That you are no longer depend on that particular medicine.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, I think we have a long way to go, this point, but we still should try. And try to evolve more brave, try to make more brave, you know, try to be brave and helping other people. And often the environment is very frustrating, not suitable situation. But still, you can always find some element of sanity in certain situation which might useful. Try to connect with that and slowly try to use that as stepping stone as you go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1772.0,1990.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, do you see any pragmatic possibility in a Buddhist-style clinic in context with the Shambhala vision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very much so. The Shambhala vision is a vision of sane society -- enlightened society, actually. So I see there's lots of possibilities. Absolutely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Pragmatically, it's seems very difficult. Not in the sense of -- well if I'm a Buddhist, can I jump rope at the same time? -- but more, like, as far as degrees and how to work in a Western setting as well, and having the credentials.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that having credentials is not particularly problem, or little demands be made on you and trying to meet with that situation is not particularly problematic. The only problematic situation is that if the society begin to provoke your aggression, and you have to be angry in order to keep up with the rest of the world. That is becoming problematic and we can work on that. So that's first step. And not give in to the demand from society that you should be aggressive and crude. And we could certainly, you know, not go along with that and still have bread and butter and roof over our head. And we work from there as we go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So you're saying work on our own impoverished point of view about the whole thing, have more-- work on the confidence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, working from there and also trying to develop some sense of, you know, some kind of inspiration and richness that we could produce from our own situation. You know, things doesn't had to be particularly extravagant but things could be rich within the simplicity. And the question is not give up, and regard the obstacles as part of the journey -- and actually becomes one, some point. And it is true that we can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=1990.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Four in a row here. My question is about credentials. We've talked a lot here at Naropa about, you know, Naropa Institute's identification as a Buddhist institution, or whether we can get beyond Buddhism and just talk about intelligence, being awake, and things like that, which seems like a fine idea. [Laughs] But I recently saw examples of some diplomas that I guess that you had designed for Naropa Institute, which I'll be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --graduating from. Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You get it-- you got it finally?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Not yet. I didn't get one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No. I haven't graduated though. I'm not expecting one yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But on the diploma-- [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] the date of graduation was noted in both the Western calendar that we use and the Buddhist calendar -- you know, \"Fire Snake Year\" or whatever it was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2170.0,2240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: And I guess I kind of-- I question the appropriateness of that if we're not-- if at Naropa Institute we're not trying to turn out Buddhist, but we're trying to somehow communicate the essentials of it, why do we need to use the Buddhist calendar on our diplomas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2240.0,2258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not Buddhist calendar, actually. It's an Eastern calendar, Oriental calendar. So we have a Western calendar and Oriental calendar, and we haven't put the date of the Buddha's birthday or things like that. [Laughter] Which would be Buddhist calendar if it was, you know, 2,500 years of parinirvana -- that would be Buddhist calendar. But this one is strictly Oriental calendar, culturally. That has actually-- this kind of system is used by the Tibetans, Chinese and Japanese and Koreans and South Asia. So, we trying to present both West and East, that's the only thing. And it's not supposed to be Buddhist, particularly, in the calendars.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe idea is that we try to-- you see, the educational system exist in the West is, I suppose you could say the Westerners think that their world is the center of the universe, which Naropa Institute particularly doesn't. [Laughter] As far as Naropa Institute is concerned, center of universe is within yourself rather than on the particular geographical, cultural situations particularly at all. So we trying to combine every culture that exists, any wisdom exists; we trying to combine all together. And we happens to speak English language because we are in this country. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah and we happen to use this particular calendar, which says it's 1978 because we're in this country.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2258.0,2357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: It seems to me, like, you know, actually putting that right on the diploma reinforces it, you know, may reinforce a certain feeling of, you know, xenophobia, you know, fear of foreign influence--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fear what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Xenophobia.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It means \"fear of foreign influences.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah? [Laughter] Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And it just-- I mean, you know, there really is some paranoia among people within Naropa and people outside of Naropa about what Naropa Institute's up to, [laughter] you know, in terms of being some slightly subversive idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well I think you are--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, it just seems like that's-- it's just reinforcing paranoia without clarifying anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2357.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the question is we are not actually resting and relaxing on anything. As far as Naropa Institute is concerned, it's ongoing journey. We don't just rest and fall asleep on our seat. So the question is that when people find, when the students begin to find that Naropa Institute finally provides you a rest home; and then that would be end of Naropa Institute because everybody would fall asleep. And so Naropa Institute is an ongoing situation and trying to encourage people to not fall asleep, and not find even comfortable seat. And it's an ongoing exploration, odyssey -- that's the idea. And some people get paranoid about that -- what might come the next planet. We might have to land on hostile planet, or we might have to land on the Buddhist planet. [Laughter] But still, even if we land on the Buddhist planet, we will go on, as far as Naropa Institute is concerned.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd did you read my little, what you call... note at the catalogue, summer catalogue? I talked about holding, and then ongoing. When you hold, then you see some more journey; you just keep going. So that's my idea is... actually, instead of purely just localizing and instead of just saying that we have found some little colorful school in Boulder, Colorado, you know, where people can have great time, called Naropa Institute. But that's not it, quite. And our idea is much bigger. Not in the bigger sense of we don't-- we are not particular talking about taking over the world particularly, but we are talking about constant exploration. That's what education should be -- constantly going on, moving. And, you know, students might get degree but that doesn't mean anything very much, particularly, and you have to go on beyond that. So if you become ideal traveler, then you are very close to joining together intellect and intuition. So it's restless and it's big idea. It's ongoing journey. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2410.0,2575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: So in terms of how it translates into the little details of the situation, like my paranoia about the diploma, that's kind of an example of an overall policy of keeping people keeping on their toes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that, keep them awake. [Laughter] Naropa Institute is daytime, daytime institute; we're not nighttime. Keep awake. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's working. [Laughs; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's great. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2575.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady, here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, the purpose of Naropa seems to be, as far as I can gather, similar to the purpose of Shambhala.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you hold up your microphone closer?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Similar to the purpose of Shambhala.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And the courses here are Buddhist studies and psychology, but a heavy emphasis on arts, on the artistic arts -- dance, theater, writing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you're studying?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I haven't formally specialized but writing is my interest. And I'm wondering if you could talk a bit on how do these arts fit into the vision of Shambhala? What is art in trying to create a sane society, rather than, say, the choice of politics or business to study?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2616.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, I think your-- you hit on a very good point there, too. And this would be still continuation discussion of what we discussed as an ongoing journey. [GAP IN AUDIO] --Oriental as well. The idea is that one discovery is not particularly regarded as your home ground, your territory that you can defend your enemies from, you know, and you can hold your fort. But there is constant journey going on with arts as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat the Shambhala vision is, somewhat, seem to be based on non-cultural, but all the cultures are connected together -- and the best of the cultures are connected together. You know, that when somebody writes a good piece of music, compose good piece of music, it's universal; it transcends culture. If somebody writes a bad piece of music, it associated with certain particular culture. And same as with art. You know, if you are masterpiece of painting -- it could be oil color or it could be watercolor paintings -- but it transcends particular culture, fundamentally speaking. Although you might say the artist was born in so-and-so country in such-such place and painted in certain time of the age; but still, there is a transcultural aspect in the whole thing, some kind of wakefulness in the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that goes with any kind of art, you know -- dance, theater, painting, music. That the Shambhala Training, so to speak, of Naropa Institute is transcultural from that point of view. As long as we don't try to relax and pick particular thing as our trip, and because we found our security -- there's endless. But you might have your own particular style of doing your particular art, which is fine, but-- that's no problem. The question that we are trying to work on is territoriality and glorify one's own ego and that you have discovered something. So, if you can go beyond that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2670.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: You seem to have addressed another question I wanted to ask too, is: Can you say a few words for people who want to not dwell, to become immersed in their particular areas, but want to learn it thoroughly enough so that they know it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wants what? Wants to learn thoroughly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2833.0,2852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Can you say a few words for us people who want to study our particular areas very well so that we know them, but not to become immersed in them so that that's all we know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2852.0,2864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, not be ego-tripping on that particular thing. And then you see the-- your particular practice could become an obstacle to you or could be a further journey for you. You see, there's the two choices. If you hang on to it so dearly and begin to become a part of your security, then it could become regressions-- possibility of regression in your evolvement. Whereas if you have a sense of possessiveness, possession of particular discovery, and actual sense of confidence in certain particular discovery, particular work of art, and you still have tremendous openness at the same time, that makes further possibilities of further growth and also provides lot of gentleness in the artist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2864.0,2935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, there's a quality to education. Like, when I went to regular American schools, it seemed-- [laughs] it seemed there's a definite sort of aggressive quality that seems to be inborn to education, at least from my experience. And I was part of the sort of rebellious crop of students, I guess, of the '60s where we felt we had to rebel against the authority and, you know, the establishment. And so there was this sort of underlying tone that in order to get anything from education at all, there always had to this process of debate, question, confrontation going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it seems that there's more to it than that. I mean, there's a kind of a qualitative tone to the Western approach of education that, here at Naropa, just really is put into contrast. The thing it feels here, in terms of the process, is that we're talking about experience; we're talking about actually relating to the situations. And it seems to me that maybe that's a point in -- at least this is what I feel here at Naropa -- where we have some point of confusion, or maybe we don't, you know, realize this sort of qualitative difference between our American concept of education and the sort of process that's going on here. But I wonder if maybe some of our confusions or maybe some of our problems that we experience here are maybe a product of trying to sort of revert back or superimpose our old models of what we think education should be on what the situation is here at Naropa. Whereas what we really-- you know, if we just relate to what we're doing, if we relate to the fact that we're working, you know, from our own experience, then, you know, it's not so much of a problem; it's not so much of confusion. So basically, I guess what I'm saying is I see this as maybe this is a cause of some of the problems we have here, and I was wondering if you could comment on that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=2935.0,3119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think what you said is right. It's question of-- you see, there is-- traditional American approach is everybody trying to come up with new idea, new slant on things, so they could be specialize on their particular discovery, which nobody can actually compete with you, and you become the winner, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah, it's a credential trip, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, all the time. And whereas in Naropa Institute, everybody's relaxed. [Laughter] At the same time, you have to continue with your sense of discipline. You see, discipline doesn't had to be competitiveness. That's the one of the problems when we talk about discipline, you're talking about you're winning the race, so to speak. In our case, discipline means proper conduct and appreciation of what you're studying and understanding of what you're studying. And that particular study, what you're doing have something to do with development of your own state of mind, further evolvement. So whatever we try to do would have some kind of developing oneself, some kind of journey, not so much of to win the race.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3119.0,3227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And once you begin to realize that it is just a simple, peaceful journey and you like it very much, then all the tension and all the nervousness be taken away. But you are replaced with some sense of delightfulness, that you actually enjoy your practice, whatever you're doing, whatever you're studying. So for the first time, you begin to discover that world is liveable and world is actually hospitable, and educational world is also accommodating. And it's question is sharing some kind of joy, which I been trying to tell the administration as well, that you know, [laughter] that some kind of joy in them. It's not so much whether they have to just purely rack their brain and keep pounding all the time, but there is some sense of joy to the fact that life is worth living. And it is journey, nevertheless, there's no place to rest. As they say, wicked has no rest. [Laughs; laughter] But still, no rest but still it's delightful, you know. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah, I-- thank you. 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Then rest of it, you have to discover yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3322.0,3355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: I guess the question is somewhat in relation to the-- similar to the question that she asked, which is: I do see an emphasis on the arts at Naropa. And I'm wondering, it seems like that this implies some kind of importance of the arts in relationship to developing the intuitive nature, or something that I'm not sure of -- in relationship to the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3355.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, art is a different kind of situation is because things are very immediate, particularly when you work with art. It's very literal. If it comes back to you-- if things are done badly, you get automatic respond. Whereas if you did the psychology practice badly, you probably get your reaction much later. [Laughs; laughter] So, it's one of the merits of art situation actually, is things very immediate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the question is not so much of mimic your teacher in terms of art, but trying to develop some sense of emulation-- emulating your teacher. There's lots of difference between mimicking and emulating. Which goes particularly with the arts -- I suppose it goes with everything, but particularly with the arts. It's very literal kind of situation. So that we might be greatest ideal in artistic performance as far as technical side of it concerned, physical, technical side of it's concerned, but still we could be missing lot of things. So the idea is, again there, not rest and keep going and explore further.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have a very-- if you have a teacher who has very limited idea, then, certain point, you could be better than your teacher; so teacher has nothing to teach anymore, so we had to let go of our teacher. But in Naropa Institute, we try to hire certain particular type of teacher who is also making journey themselves as well. So teacher's presentation doesn't run out either at all. So you evolve and your teacher evolve, so everything becomes a complete journey. And that seem to be the point. Whereas when the teacher has a certain particular limit, and it could be after that, that that particular teacher can fake whole thing and become charlatan -- probably purely by circumstances or may not be intended that way at all, particularly. And when the teacher begin to feel that he or she run out of things to teach, and he or she would like to stay on as teacher, and try to invent new ideas, rack their brain, and so the product becomes questionable. So, we be very careful in what kind of people we try to work with. As far as faculty members concerned, we try to work with genuine people. And I think pretty much actually we have ninety-nine percent of good people, good teachers at this point. Maybe there's one percent missing somewhere, but still, they're making their journey anyway, however. [Laughter] So, it's endless journey at the same time. And it's not mimicking; it should be emulating. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3390.0,3650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Do you feel that within the field of our particular discipline, whether art, dance, music, or poetry, that we can find the space for working out our neurosis if we approach it with a proper mindfulness and sincerity? Or do we necessarily need sitting meditation as a supplement to that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3650.0,3673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well sitting meditation is, I think, just personal experience. Where if you feel you need reference point, it is necessary to sit-- it necessary to sit, so that you have some reference point as to how you relate with your space. Which is somewhat very important, and I think, particularly, also with work-- with arts, with the dance, theater, poetry, and all those. And some kind of experience of sitting practice is very good, but it doesn't have to become mandatory, particularly, as part of educational system necessarily at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut sitting meditation has very strange kind of effect on the people. Because it's not so much of you are thinking on something; it's not so much you're trying to make something out of nothing, or nothing out of everything. So it's a very strange kind of-- it could be a very speedy one, and but at the same time, it's very still. So that does actually give you a lot of feedbacks, definitely. And sometimes actually, much better than trying to ask your teacher to tell you feedbacks-- get you feedbacks. And sitting practice by yourself, you find out more about what you be doing with arts. But I wouldn't think that's necessarily all the time, you have to do it all the time necessarily, or become a part of the curriculum, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then apart from that, sitting practice is just one aspect of it. Then there's general awareness of your discipline all the time, you know, which provides kind of bringing out your intellect and your understanding about who you are, what you are, what you doing [UNCLEAR: with what?] .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3673.0,3800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: So you sort of see meditation as evoking the kind of mindfulness that will help us in the pursuit of our discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes, some kind of reference point. And, you know, a sort of clearing house or garbage chute. 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Absolutely. Well you see, if you think that we have to learn everything from our teacher, then we are limiting ourselves. And you can learn quite a lot, but lot of things you can discover yourself rather than purely getting the information. Things are-- life is not all that technical. Life is spontaneous, so is your learning situation spontaneous. So we could discover lot of it with teacher, which is good. But at the same time, often try to work out things without teacher, and trying to become our own teacher ourselve-- within ourselves, whatever disciplines we do, you know. That goes with everything, actually, you know. That we trying to provoke something we have, something intrinsically. We are capable of doing it. So that can be happening, you know, as long as there is some kind of confidence that we can do it, and then you find out you can do it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3832.0,3929.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You mentioned earlier an enlightened society--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: An enlightened society.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I'd like to know exactly what you mean when you say an \"enlightened society\" and is it possible, whatever it is? And whatever Naropa is doing, is it-- how is Naropa promoting an enlightened society when we have so much trouble communicating basic intelligence among ourselves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think at this point, I would turn the-- that answer from Dr. Hayward. [Laughter; laughs] Since he's heading this particular project, and he should have some ideas. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3929.0,3974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD: Let's see, you said: What is an enlightened society, and is it possible? And is Naropa doing anything to help it, bearing in mind that we have a lot of difficulty with our communication of basic intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, I think that that is the starting point, and perhaps has a great deal to do with an enlightened society, is recognizing that we have a lot of difficulty with our communication of intelligence, and continuing to communicate our intelligence in spite of apparent difficulties. See, it's nothing beyond what we are. It's nothing-- the idea of an enlightened society isn't something-- some kind of fantasy. It's what is actually possible for us if we have intelligence, which we have, and if we're willing to be intelligent, which I hope all the students at Naropa are. And there's no limit to the possibility of communicating our intelligence and being intelligent, and letting that intelligence flower in all kinds of different forms, like the various art forms -- the psychology, working with people, the study of politics and relationships between societies, and study of the sciences. All these are-- could be expressions, the flowering of our intelligence. So it's entirely possible.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=3974.0,4118.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think the question is that world is ours; we have our world. And basically, it is up to us to create our own world. And in the ordinary cases, that lot of people prefer not create enlightened society because they like their neurosis. They would like to embedded themselves in their own little cocoon, and their own little passion, aggression, and ignorance is very comfortable, smelly, and warm. [Laughter] So it is up to us to wake ourselves up and step out of that. And if we begin do that, we can do it since this is our world. So when everybody's begin do that simultaneously, then we have a group psychology which is also reflection of that, which could become enlightened society. And it's possible. And it has be done in the past, and we can still do it ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=4118.0,4199.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40598/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's probably best time, this point. We have to halt here. And good way of ending it. And I'm glad we had chance to meet together again, this point. And we could do this again and again if you like. Throughout in the summer and fall, I'll be around Boulder quite a lot. I'm planning to be here, largely -- apart from the seminary, I have to go for two and a half months. And I'll be keeping eye on Naropa Institute, of course. And I will be managing it as well. [Laughter] So, let us say that we will do this quite frequently, and will be very nice. And in the meantime, please, try to build the enlightened society. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=4199.0,4256.94031"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780215VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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Colorado","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=11.1,15.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on February 15th, 1978.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=15.27,19.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an un-remastered\nArchive original 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since,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=31.01,37.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is above and beyond\nhis official function","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=37.34,40.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as president of\nNalanda Foundation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=40.84,44.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the idea here this afternoon\nis primarily for us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=44.52,48.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to have a chance\nto talk with Rinpoche","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=48.13,50.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about both our ideas,\nour experiences,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=50.02,53.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our questions about our work\nhere at Naropa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=53.42,58.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'd like to encourage you\nall to be outspoken and direct,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=58.48,64.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and please ask\nwhat's ever on your mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=64.12,67.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=67.13,69.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I thought\nwe could just have a 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please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=89.35,94.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=94.58,117.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: We talk about\nputting together intuition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=117.62,122.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and intellect at Naropa.\nAnd I was wondering--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578#t=122.68,125.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76159/file/164578/transcript/40599/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nPutting together 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