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Introduction about the essence of spirituality as including daily life. How we usually approach sex with preconceptions. Discusses sex in terms of \"jhana states\" in traditional teaching of realm of gods. Essence of mind and body, \"bindu\", energy that is communicated and released during sex. How to use properly. Sex involving spiritual aspect of sacredness through communication. Expands discussion to include everyday life situations as sacred. How communication can become distorted. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] differences between male and female processes during sex; [Q7] long discussion about abortion; [Q17] the role of infatuation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 8: Communication\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 5: Meditation in Action: Work (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2: Selected Writings: Work: Seeing Ordinary Things with Extraordinary Insight (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 26 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Emily Waters Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk and discussion about approaching sex from both confused and sane points of view. Introduction about the essence of spirituality as including daily life. How we usually approach sex with preconceptions. Discusses sex in terms of \"jhana states\" in traditional teaching of realm of gods. Essence of mind and body, \"bindu\", energy that is communicated and released during sex. How to use properly. Sex involving spiritual aspect of sacredness through communication. Expands discussion to include everyday life situations as sacred. How communication can become distorted. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] differences between male and female processes during sex; [Q7] long discussion about abortion; [Q17] the role of infatuation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-y5egw1.mpga"]},"duration":7469.53138,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/264/original/open-uri20260428-880-y5egw1.mpga?1777400279","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":7469.53138,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710905VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710905VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 8] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is talk eight, given on September 5th, 1971. This is a CTI remaster made October 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held at Tail of the Tiger in September 1971. This will be talk number eight, September 5th, Part One.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we will be always worthwhile looking back on the discussions we had already, and gradually build relational situations of subjects that involved with each other, interlinked with each other. That basically spiritual practice contains dealing with psychological state of being. Differences between enlightened and confused state of mind is based on that of knowing the situation as it is. Or, not knowing situation as it is, and confused by it or frightened by it. And it seemed that we are talking in a different aspect of spirituality. The subject that we are concerned is not that of faith is born with a revelation of external identity at all. Faith and understanding in this case is born out of precision and clarity of perceiving universe as it is. And it seems that there's no point in-- therefore there's no point in entering into a trance-like state of absorption and making best of that as home, as dwelling place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=41.0,279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a tendency of materialism which is trying to find some dwelling place, dwelling situation, where that you'll be secured or satisfied. And it seems that spirituality is not based on aim and object of doing set patterns, disregarding spiritual development itself. I mean for that matter, we could say in the terms of like you took a vow to go to solitary and practice meditation for ten years. And you go out to a quiet place and settle down, and you go through the ten-year period of development, so to speak, development -- ten years of practice anyway. And then every day, every hour, every month, every year, we count how many days have gone, how many days yet to go, how many years yet to go. And that ten years gone very fast. And one day is \"tomorrow is my time to come out.\" So we come out. Except that you haven't heard the news of what's happened in the world, and except the difficulty in adapting ourselves back to normal situation from the solitary living situation for ten years. Which wouldn't take very long to adapt, probably month or so, once we begin to visit our friends, relatives, and begin to involve with lifestyle that we used to live. And we are back to square one, except that ten years of your life has been different than anybody else's -- I mean physically different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=279.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the same thing could be said also, such practices like for instance prescribed 100,000 prostrations, or 100,000 mantras, and so on. That you do it very diligently, very fast, competitively, and you have accomplished 100,000 prostrations or 100,000 this and that. But at the end, after you finish them, you still have familiar problems. You still have the same old hang-ups and same old style of clumsiness. And the same situation is always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=480.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's quite possible that you may get a degree on that practice. That, \"Somebody had achieved something, done something, therefore he must be different and he got a degree.\" But somehow that's purely concept, a name, words. I wouldn't say that such practices are not valuable. But if we approached purely from the external point of view of heroism, or purely material or physical commitment to situation without working on one's basic psychology, then anything that supposedly that we could go through physically seems to become futile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=552.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the question is that-- what's wrong there is that spirituality is regarded as extraordinary, completely extraordinary, devoid of daily life. That if you step out into another sphere, another realm, so to speak, and you feel that that's the only answer, there's nothing more than that. It seems that is why, because things we discuss about work is also important in way of relating with the familiar world through extraordinary way. And the ordinary situation is being seen from an extraordinary insight -- is discovering jewel among rubbish heap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=619.0,719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in case of work, if work becomes a practice, then it becomes extremely powerful one, because we have to deal with regular daily problems. And these problems cease to become problems -- but they become source of inspiration. And in case of money, likewise, nothing is rejected as ordinary and nothing is particularly accepted as sacred. But all the substance and material available there in the life situation is being used. I mean, we know basically that-- what money represents, what money is for. With knowing such situation, and if one worked-- able to work along with that understanding and approaching from extraordinary way, is a surprise for regular habitual pattern of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=719.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So on the whole, that [usually] whole thing is based on this conceptualization. Once we begin to work anything connected with life is good for us, supposed to be-- supposed to gain something out of it, then, our gaining means we find suitable, comfortable nest to dwell on it, enriched by all sorts of environment that we created, and created for the ego, maintaining of \"me\", \"myself\". When, [on the other hand], there's no concepts, no particular aim, but just throwing oneself over the board, off the cliff, letting go, along with the situation, and letting go with process of learning as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=862.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People might say this is ludicrous, impractical. That you're supposed to have self-respect, you're supposed to be a proud person, should have aim and object, goal in mind. But on the other hand, the problem has never been approached from the other angle at all. So, such people have no authority, in fact, because they haven't seen other other side of the coin at all. They don't see it, it's too dangerous, too frightening. So they are not particularly experienced on that exp-- ego experience, completely, properly. In fact, if there is another way of approaching to the subject, beyond self-respect, beyond pride, then that may be the only way to-- we could make friends with ourselves. And we don't have to put ourselves into torturing situation of competitive process at all. I suppose this particular subject need more discussion later on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=927.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also, this involves sex as well. As we discussed yesterday, that sexual relationship is largely based on preconception. And whole concept of being faithful is based on preconception of husband and wife, or lovers. And the whole thing is based on this particular notion of sort of debt, or preconception of expected situations. The basic point of sex, the basic fundamental meaning, the philosophy of sex, has been already lost once we begin to approach from obligatory level. It's-- sex or sexual experience is supposedly essence of human communication. And that communication is largely depend on the solid body, the body situation, of course, as well. That communication can be only made by obvious means, physical gestures or words. And the implication behind that is mind, which is very difficult to perceive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1059.0,1231.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For instance the story of the-- mythological story of realm of gods of four jhana states. Supposedly each realm has lesser-- as you go higher up, up to the fourth level, you have less and less solid body, substance, solid body. And the whole thing is based on meditative body, trance-like state of mind-body, because there's less and less apparently clinging, of course within ego. And it is said that the gods of the first realm and their way of communicating in terms of sex is intercourse. And beyond that, the secondary realm of god, sexual communication is purely consist of holding hands. And beyond that, sexual relationship is purely consist of smiling to each other. And beyond this, that is just purely looking at each other, gazing at each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1231.0,1346.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that such approach had to be made very clumsy way, since we have such clumsy state of body. Of course which has being discussed a great deal in the scriptures and other teachings, that it's abrahmacharya, act of incomplete. It's a clumsy way of releasing your bindu. \"Bindu\" in this case is the \"essence of body\"; often described as semen alone, but not necessarily so. It's-- bindu is essence of mind and essence of body. It's like the money system that we are talking about in terms of essence of society. The bindu is another type of currency, in terms of communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1346.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Traditionally in-- both, I think, Indian teachings of Hinduism and Buddhism simultaneously agree that abusing bindu is an act of abrahmacharya, act of noncompletion. When body contains bindu, the essence there, you are a completely healthy person. But once you abuse that, and once you throw away, that becomes \"*a\"*brahmacharya, disrupting the complete act of brahma, or the complete one, the wholesome one. \"Brahma\" this case is \"wholesome\" or \"healthy\";, unified situation of everything, contains there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1427.0,1522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question comes down is how to not abuse bindu, and how to use properly, or that-- how to use that particular type of currency properly, respectably, is of course the attitude of the person who possess the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1522.0,1552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's like the stories of millionaires who use dollar bills wiping their bottoms, making into a cigar. Abusing them. In other word, that somehow that there is a certain tendency of, first of all, the sex as being, unless you are married, is unlawful, something naughty; that outside of usual pattern that you are doing something on the quiet. And the whole attitude to it is very frivolous. And of course lot of people go through guilt conscious: \"I shouldn't be engaged in such act, but I couldn't helped it. Just happened,\" as they say. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1552.0,1638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That automatically undermines the sacredness of any communication. Particularly, society and culture doesn't acknowledge, moralistic pattern doesn't acknowledge, regards as a frivolous action. And we somehow indoctrinated by it. And at the same time that we fail to see the sacredness of it, actual communication. The whole thing is somehow that once person is regarding the sexual act as a frivolous thing, then the whole approach and everything becomes very cheap. And attitude of each other becomes very frivolous as well, as though you are using other person as purely property, purely functional. There's nothing more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1638.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So somehow that on the whole, it should have that basic sacredness attitude, the spiritual implication in it. Spiritual implication in the sense of communication. That often communication cannot be presented purely by verbal or mental process alone, but communication had to be made physically. Not purely just to-- biologically to release pressure alone, but psychologically to learn to open whole being to somebody else. Act of communication, act of openness. And that seems to be the essence of the whole process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1724.0,1786.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean the same thing could be said of eating food. In the Tibetan tradition of sort of monastic system that there is very elaborate mantras, visualizations, connected with eating, how food is being sort of made into offering, and so on. And also there is a particular awareness of the sacredness in spiritual-- in tantric sense of like putting on your garment and putting on the belt, walking up steps, or going down steps. And there used to be a purse to put on the toilet. Also while you're on the toilet seat, that certain visualizations, certain mantras that you're supposed to say. That your piss and shit feeds \"pretas\", \"hungry ghosts\", and elixir of life coming from your body and feeding them. Well, that's a very profound thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1786.0,1864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now that if we try to do that, it becomes a cult of its own, of course, with this premature point, since the teaching has been very little known into depths of psychology of people. But it contains tremendous truth in it -- that anything to do with life contains that kind of sacredness. Of such as like, when you put on the belt, your recitation is such like, \"I'm putting the belt of discipline.\" \"I'm putting shoes of energy, patience.\" And, \"I'm walking up steps to awakened state.\" I'm coming down to-- compassionate step to all-- for all other sentient beings.\" \"I'm closing the door of samsara.\" \"I'm open the door of wisdom.\" All these actions being regarded as sacred thing. But one doesn't have to have a prescribed ritual on each thing. Then whole thing becomes religious rather than spirituality, it seems this very moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1864.0,1966.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in fact we are getting into very big topic, more than purely just sex. We are getting into every life situation has meaning behind it, and has process of communication in it. And particularly, sexual communication doesn't have to be particularly physical communication alone, at all. But when two people are attracted to each other, there is tendency to open as far as you can. But if there's no opportunities of opening as far as you can, doesn't had to be-- one doesn't have to become frustrated. But subtle communication is that understanding and ultimate friendship quality in it seems to be the crux of the matter. And of course being faithful becomes automatically natural situation -- if one is particularly keen on that discipline. That because the communication is so real and so beautiful and flowing that you can't communicate the same way to somebody else, so automatically you're drawn together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=1966.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And particularly when we begin to suggest any kind of doubts, or negative suggestions present any kind of temptations to the-- this communication process, then that causes not being faithful or not be friendly to each other. Because you are more of afraid of losing that communication rather than enjoying of the pre-- communication of the moment. So once we begin to feel threatened your communication is-- although it's going beautifully well at the time, but still you feel threatened by something, some abstract possibility of something, then one is sowing seed of paranoia already, and regarding the communication as purely ego entertainment. So then all sorts of chaotic situation happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2094.0,2146.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then of course quite easily that communication and naked openness to each other could become naked aggression, hatred, quite easily. And that kind of-- the notion of love-hate relationship becomes quite obvious, quite natural process. Once we begin to throw any sort of seed of doubts, and that doubt begin to become-- either of the people are rigid or terrifying, because this communication is so good and real, and afraid to lose it. And then certain stage, one begin to become bewildered, whether the communication is loving communication or whether communication is aggressive communication. So this bewilderment brings certain amount of losing of one's distant and neurosis begin to derive from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2146.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So once you lose the right perspective distant between communication process, then love becomes tremendous hate. And the natural thing is, of course like exactly same as love in terms of hatred, also you want to make a physical communication to the person. Which is that you want to kill the person, physically injure it. In other word, if anything that we involved personally, completely -- in terms of love relationship, or anything, any relationship -- there is always danger of turning against, turning the other way around. As long as there is notion of threat or insecurity, of any kind, then that relationship could be turned into the opposite relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2219.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And same thing as the story of this disciple who murdered his own teacher on the spot, because his personally, personal feeling of relationship communication. And when he begin to reject his involvement into himself is beyond or against his teaching [teacher], certain bewilderment begin to happen. That bewilderment automatically looks for another alternatives of making sudden communication. And that sudden communication becomes hatred, murdering him on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we should stop there and have a lively discussion on it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2297.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What about that trip up the four realms of the gods? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I didn't hear anything which would give an indication of what that process was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on the bodily relationship, the need to communicate accordance with the solidness of the physical body. Therefore human way of relating that is paying respect and prostrating. Like Catholic tradition of kissing bishop's ring or something; or sacrifice, physical bodily involvement to the teaching. Like Milarepa carrying stone on his back; in fact, it is said that his back is completely worn out, that you could see through his--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Shoulder blades.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --shoulder blades and his lungs and everything. It's physical commitment. Same thing with the sex as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well is it-- is-- you say it's a sacrifice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't mean to sacrifice in the ordinary sense, but it's some act of... offering. I don't know what you call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: As though you were giving something up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, a though you're acknowledging that there is solid substance there, and you are using that as vehicle or method.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Oh, and-- but what about when the... Does this description of the four realms of the gods and their different modes of sexual communication indicate something which is possible within human experience or is that purely mythological effects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how heavy you are. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, suppose there's some [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Suppose you're not too horribly heavy. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, it doesn't have to be that you are heavy in terms of physically being fat or anything like that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Like [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter] But it's how heavy your mind-body is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact, in the tantric practices of visualizations are consist of these, you know, processes of-- as you go higher and higher state of formless tantra, you go higher and higher means of communication with your consort, your dakini in the visualization.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Doesn't it-- so it doesn't necessarily seem as though moving from intercourse to holding hands, necessarily renunciation at all. I mean there's no idea of renunciation there, is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Renunciation? Where did that come to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, you said sacrifice before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I mean in terms of more and more and more like acknowledging, rather than sacrifice in terms of renouncing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So presumably they hold hands because it's better?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's their way of communicating. They don't have to go heavier, or deeper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2366.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But the four classes of tantra are the other way around. At the highest tantra, it seems more [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The higher class of tantra? Annutaratantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes. Isn't that the first one where you're looking at? The second [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's-- they had to go through the process. Each tantra gives the-- going through the process, start with looking, and then smiling, holding.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes, but you gave it the other way around.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Completely other direction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The human realm starts with union, and then as you get higher it becomes more abstract.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's the evolutionary pattern gives that way, in terms of the consciousness become heavier and heavier into realm of hell, where the emotions are very strong and very bodily, very physical.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So the highest class of tantra applies to highest class of evolution?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. The highest-- you haven't the highest. In the-- for instance in the maha ati, the eight heruka tantras purely talks about seed-- \"bijas\", \"seed syllables\", passing to each other is way of union. It's called the fire wheel practice. That seed syllable goes from one mouth to another mouth and comes out of of a genital to another genital.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2613.0,2728.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, there's always a problem that's bothered me about tantra and sex. And that is in talking about bindu you mention semen. But I imagine that female, you know, females, have bindu also?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And I've *never* seen a mention -- or maybe I wasn't reading right -- that if a woman comes, you know, physically and emotionally, mentally, she's losing her bindu. It's only the male. Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on the communication process. It doesn't have to be lost. But it could be--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Oh, I know that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I mean-- but I mean, on the female side of it, I mean, I get this impression that a woman can come and come and come, a shakti, in a normal, you know, orgasmic sense. But the *male* has the problem. [Laughter] I don't-- I can't see that. But I mean that's what I get.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see why male should have problem. Usually the other way around, isn't it? [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And also-- [laughter] is that-- what's the Tibetan? Is that thig-le?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thig-le, yeah. You're well-versed on it. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2728.0,2835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The-- your comment about the conservation of bindu, somehow seems that it would be almost possible to twist that into a type of bindu materialism, or of some type of, \"I have to hold onto what's mine rather than give it up so that I can--\" whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: \"So I can be complete,\" you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well that's in itself is you're losing you're bindu anyway. You're bargaining on your bindu. You're losing it. Because you're not giving psychologically and communicating completely. That could be said of also abusing bindu. And supposedly by that kind of particular mental holding back cause you physically certain amount of pain, and sickness produces in your body as well. We're getting into an involved subject. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2835.0,2899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Could you say a little more about this frustration thing? You know, about the object that you have a desire for this communication is not available to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean a love-hate situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: No. Well, could be that whatever reason it's not available, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Could be just, you know, physical distance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- I mean it works a quite a interesting way. That once you begin to give, and once you begin to watch yourself giving, then you feel that you deserve to be received as well at the same time. Which provides tremendous resistance from the other person's point of view. That you are demanding, rather that you're actually opening yourself, and the whole thing becomes overcrowding. And then one begin to wonder whether one is really opening properly and completely. And one tries to open much more and beyond, then whole relationship becomes more and more difficult. It's again the same principle of generosity without expectation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=2899.0,3022.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Do you believe that there can be two different kinds of orgasms, in men at least? That there can be a mechanical one when there's still a separation, no communication, but that in a real orgasm, well, you don't exist. The other person doesn't exist either.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- yes, it's possible. Actually in The Tibetan Book of the Dead it talks about that in complete orgasm is the-- you have a glimpse of clear light. There's something like four situations you can have clear lights vision. One is suddenly if you're frightened, panicked and shocked, and you enter into complete state of without thoughts. And one is birth, one is in the death. I mean the other one is-- second one is on the death. And the third one is in the dream state, that when you're half sleep and going to sleep there is glimpse of clear light. As well in the state of orgasm, complete-- the fundamental orgasm, that there is complete openness, which is beyond thought; in fact, it's known as \"beyond joy,\" some terminology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3022.0,3118.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes, if through one of these sexual communications one becomes pregnant, [laughter] what then? I mean, what is your opinion on abortions, I guess? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that's-- this again, I don't think there could be prescribed answer but depends on the relationship. And also depends on the child, whether the situation-- that the child would be able to have as a creative one or the child would cause destructive situation. Well it's very much depend on the individual case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Can you explain through-- what are abortions exactly? I mean in terms of the karma as far as -- I don't know, the child choosing its parents or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean there's always this thing that whether you are willing to face the karmic consequence in order-- for the sake of the child. Or whether you're afraid to commit your karmic consequence into it and just let child to come out. It's depends on your attitude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3118.0,3222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER: If you feel that the-- a situation would not be favorable to the child and you are undergoing abortion, in Buddhist belief would that mean that this child would have a chance under more hospitable circumstances? That is that you don't actually have to face the fact that-- possibly that you kill off a being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. Maybe there's sort of same repetitive karmic things happens with a child. Like if you are-- it used to happen in Tibet. If you are-- have a bad karmic vibes, vibrations, as beggar, when you beg front of each door you be turned away, you be chased away. You never get anything. Whereas immediately the next person who come and beg after you get tremendous hospitality. I mean, there are such people like that, such-- you know they have to go through this rejection and rejection and rejection. It's more like part of their bardo state rather than their rebirth state.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER: Like there's one day you are rejected and another day you are welcome, that can be also.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be also, yeah. I mean anything could happen. [Laughter] But there's no point of, you know, trying to make it up into good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3222.0,3320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What kind of karma is caused by a couple who decide to have an abortion to keep their own personal freedom of movement, because they don't want to go through like the effort it takes to bring up a child?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that unless the situation for the child is going to be destructive one, just purely for the sake of convenience seem to be rather selfish. I mean that sounds very unexperienced attempt, and you have preconception of having child, being parents. Maybe you enjoy it once you have the child.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What if you have a child already, and you've gone through the like, the-- you know what it is, already, or you seem to know what it is. And then the woman gets pregnant again and doesn't want to go through that again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not question of that the woman wanting to go through it again, but it's question of the what situation for the child is going to be, more likely that.\r\n\r\n\r\nFundamentally, having child is very creative -- and needless to say -- and very beautiful experience. That you have someone to relate to who is constantly there. In order to relate with that person you have be constant as well. And usually child cried in the appropriate times and demands your attention in the appropriate times when you are dreaming about something else. [Laughter] It's very beautiful teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3320.0,3424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The-- from the sutras that I've read which are completely-- it seems that the Buddha almost had a anti-feminist attitude. Is that a fair assumption or not? If so, why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, since I haven't met him personally, [laughter] it's very difficult to say. But according to the sutras, particularly according to the sort of hinayana sutras, definitely there is this sort of social-- reflection from the social convention.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: ln other words, it's just kind of an ignorant attitude put upon by the culture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean for instance in the precepts, eight precepts, that you're not supposed to sing or dance, play any musical instruments, on the basis of that music is being seduction to the lowest possible. And somehow music of those days, I suppose, associated with seduction and pleasure and the court scene. Like for instance certain paintings of Ajanta Cave where there was court scene was painted, dancing girls around it, practically almost no clothes on it but purely ornaments around their body. And the whole music and dance is regarded from that point of view is seems to be is sort of super seduction. And music can only lead you to seduction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: At that point then we can say that the sutras are speaking to the people who heard it, but not to us necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that seem to be the point. Like on-- later on, lot of Buddhist traditions of all countries begin to have musical instruments and chantings and all sorts of things in-- presented and introduced into it and regarded as a spiritual thing. Except particularly in the-- in Burma for instance, they still maintain this particular tradition. And when monks chant, they should chant-- they supposedly chant very clumsily, not musically -- deliberately. Whereas in the Sinhalese for instance and Thai, chant sort of musically. But in Burma, no. Just [mimicking Burmese monks chanting] NAMO TASSA BHAGAVATO ARAHATO SAMMA SAMBUDDHASSA. [Laughter] It's very... And including that any kind of seduction. Even for instance like highly polished begging bowl is bad for you, because you could see your reflection of it, the possibilities of vanity, and deliberately trying to step them out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3424.0,3671.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Rinpoche, what particularly--we speak of communication being sexual. Is all communication sexual? Is there-- or is there some subtle difference between sexual communication and some other form of communication? Or is all communication sexual?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends on the definition of sexual, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, before you were saying that sex didn't depend on intercourse. Or if the situation of opening up completely didn't develop, that there was no need to consider the relationship one of frustration. But that since an attraction existed it was a basis for more complete communication than otherwise. Would this indicate that sexual communication was based on an attraction taking place? Or would there not be an element of -- I don't know what-- how would you define sexuality? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you could be very literal. And we could be symbolical. But if we're talking from symbolical, or from the sort of basic philosophical point of view of sexual communication--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, I mean I don't see why those two should be different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems quite obvious. I mean on the other hand that we don't-- we're not talking in terms of like Freudian style.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: No. I'm trying to relate this conversation to what happens, *actually*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well-- yeah, well you see actually there is-- communication can't be established unless there are two. One is the activator, one is the receiver. From that base, anything could be said in sexual, terms of communication. But that doesn't have to have the passionate quality of sex necessarily, or the gross level of sexual necessarily. But at the same time that in order to communicate anything, you have to have the two element, always. I mean that's the-- from tantric point of view is that everything's interpreted as in that way -- of union. Of union of samsara and nirvana, and apparent phenomenon and consciousness, being interpreted as feminine and masculine principle. Everything is seen that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3671.0,3889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Can there be a change of roles as it were? I don't like to use the word \"roles\". But can it be that the giver and the receiver take-- that they interchange, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Someone receive--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: --sometimes one is the giver and sometimes-- and the other one is the receiver, or it can be visa versa with the same two. Or is there always one who gives and one who receive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there could be different situations, yes, I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3889.0,3944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How would you understand the-- well like when we talk in The [Tibetan] Book of the Dead, about the last bardo state, the person gets drawn back into physical life by being attracted by his parents having intercourse. How-- is that a very conscious choice? Like, does the a child or the person who's-- who would be becoming the child have like insight into who these two are, and what if Iife-- what the potentials of the life they're going to lead?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on the-- how strong the basic karmic force behind you. And if basic karmic force is very strong behind you, that you have no choice. You be just pushed into it. Whereas if person is much more freer from karmic force, able to develop some spiritual progress, then would have that much choice or greater choice; it depends on the scale, so to speak. But in the sense of that person who is extremely controlled by karmic force, and hundred percent involved with the karmic force, been just drawn into it. For instance, like if the person's future parents going to be animals, that person wouldn't see animals. But he sees comforting crack in the wood or room or nest or something and he just try to get into it because he feels so insecure. And then he finds himself ended up in the womb. That's what been said -- I mean that's what says in the books. I haven't experienced myself that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=3944.0,4096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, a few questions about birth control and what you've just said, that the parents were-- the couple were using birth control, how would this effect the situation? And the second question is how would communication be completed with the use of birth control? Is that possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it is possible. I think definitely communication would be possible in any case. Well there again, it depends on how self-conscious the people are. And if there's really giving and opening relationship involved with communication, then it will be open communication. But in the case of birth control for conception, is also governed by karma. That some is-- I mean they will say that it's not hundred percent proof, there's some slip somewhere could happen. If you're really destined to be parents, birth control would never work, actually, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: There's two things happening-- [laughter] There's two things happening today that seem to have not happened before. One is the large overpopulation, and there's more babies seem to be born today than ever before, that we know about. And also there's more use of birth control than ever before, more effective techniques of-- obviously not by the same. It seems to be some kind of transformation in this whole process that never took place before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yet more babies are born, still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4096.0,4234.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, in the West at least we've had much more prohibition sort of laid on us, of all kinds, than *just* the idea of not doing it outside of marriage. And that's a relatively small prohibition, in a sense. There's a tremendous guilt [INAUDIBLE]. And a lot of this comes from religious teaching -- of all kinds. Not just Christian, but mystical, religious, all kinds of things. And I wonder why? Why there's this? Where did it come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: And now we're-- now everybody says, \"Oh that's all nonsense, it's complete nonsense.\" So now we're trying to get ourselves to kind of do whatever we want, whenever we want, as a reaction. But I mean, I still wonder where that prohibition originally--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that's very profound thing. You can't just ignore the whole thing. It seemed, basically, any kind of unwholesome behavior comes from frivolousness, not having enough respect, and just happens haphazardly, casually. There's no respect to life, in any way, altogether. I think that's one of the very important thing, that all the disciplines and all the rules and regulations are based on. In other word, to realize the sacredness. In order to realize the sacredness, that you have to be deliberate and open, prepare for it. That you have a right vessel to understand that. It's kind of preparation and beyond frivolousness. Which is very important point, in fact. I mean there's more accident and more chaos happens in the world because of frivolousness than anything else. And that always happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4234.0,4389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But people with [INAUDIBLE], as society calls perversions or sexual [INAUDIBLE], seem to be driven, in spite of the great weight of guilt. It doesn't seem frivolous at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Weight of guilt, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Maybe somehow clarify what you mean by frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean then you see-- I think frivolous is quite simple -- disrespectable to the situation and not able to use as part of one's development. And then, the-- on the other hand, one misses the point. One begin to feel guilty for everything, even though you're not being frivolous. You know, whole thing becomes so paranoid somehow that it will be impossible for the teaching. Would say \"don't be frivolous,\" but because there would be all sorts of other way of getting around to that. So have to say, \"That's it. This is the right moment, this is wrong moment.\" And *when* begin to practice that. Then, because it says \"this is wrong moment,\" in any case, one begin to get so paranoid and guilt about that. So, it's sort of either going too far or not going far enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4389.0,4496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you were talking about attraction in that this love relationship turns into hate. And so often this happens because there was a desire to communicate and neurotic patterns have been built up. But in regards to attraction, I know-- sort of in the West we're brought up to believe that infatuation is a necessary part of being in love. And the older-- the more experience I have with relating to other people, and sexually also, I find that infatuation is an obstruction, in a sense. There's an excitement. And that the more colorless or the more clear-- clarity there is between us, the less excitement, the less infatuation, the more communication. And I was wondering if, in fact, infatuation is an illusion, or is it the attraction you were talking about which would be-- is it a part of love? Can it be beyond an emotional state, infatuation be sort of a bliss, blissful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean would be very asking too much to everyone develop beyond emotional state to become perfect lovers. That would be too much to ask for. But one doesn't have to really get into beyond emotional level in the ordinary relationship. But the profundity of that emotional level could be seen, properly, completely, and that could bring you into meditative state.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's Indian story of... I think it's a Punjabi story, that the follower of Sikh religion. And he tried to contemplate and meditate on the name of God. And he couldn't do it. He-- each time when he tried to think of name of God, name of his lover comes in through his mind. And the name of lovers begin to repeat again, again, instead of name of God. And he was very frustrated by it, and went to his teacher to solve the problem. And teacher says, \"it doesn't matter; repeat the name of your lover.\" And he went on doing so, and he went on doing so. And something happened in the relationship, that other lover was died or drowned or something happened. And he still found some emptiness, but still lover's name comes through. And finally when he realized that there's no lover to relate to, and that suddenly name of God come through. Then again, like what happened in the beginning, instead of name of lover, name of God came through his mind, constantly, and he developed state of meditation then.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo you see, it's the intensity of getting into situation and completely feeling it without watcher. Emotionally, you couldn't get into state of complete absorption without watcher. Although that could be said as-- in the long run could be said as ego thing, but in the temporary thing that could be useful stepping-stone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4496.0,4711.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How can we make that special [INAUDIBLE] emotions like, you know, love or hate, [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean there's a point where the criterias begin to wear out. That particular thing begin to be the whole point, begin to lose criteria of any kind. And it's like a state of bardo.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Like obsession.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obsession. Yeah, obsession. But obsession without a gap. Constant obsession. Which is very confusing then. And then that confused-- confusion may be something more fundamental than just pure confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4711.0,4764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But why is there such a tremendous feeling of... without infatuation, sometimes feeling very empty, even though you may have been communicating. Somehow there's something missing without that emotional unity you have, the absorption. Sometimes I can communicate very intellectually to my lover, but then somehow there's something missing, that there isn't that absorption. There's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's-- that sounds like that you are enjoying on own your game, purely, and without-- dancing without music sort of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But isn't that necessary first?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends. I mean, you can't really say fixed things on it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4764.0,4818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You said the other day that you can stop dancing before the music starts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Which I didn't understand it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You didn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, music had to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But the music has to happen first and then you start dancing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're lucky. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well you didn't answer my question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in other word that have to put some effort, to begin with, and then let go. The let go wouldn't come without effort, without pushing yourself. Is that clear?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4818.0,4870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, would you comment on masturbation? In terms of communication or-- [laughter] making friends with ourselves? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on how impulsive it is, I suppose. It's like living on your sexual fantasies, whether you're-- you begin to enjoy with your sexual fantasies as part of the game. In such case that any thoughts are welcome, you know, because they don't bug you. But somehow I don't think you can say that is purely making friend with yourself. It's something is not quite right and dead end. [Laughs] I suppose in many cases that masturbation could be way of breaking through, particularly if there's a guilt conscious, as though another part of you watching yourself all the time. But depends on how far you can go with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What kind of communication is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: None, except to break through -- hopefully.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So is it a misuse of bindu? Well if it's breaking through it's not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, otherwise it seems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=4870.0,5005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, isn't there a pretty fine line between frivolousness and that letting go?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah, very fine line. Definitely. Letting go is... has a ground to stand on. Frivolousness has no ground to stand on. It's just impulsive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5005.0,5046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Rinpoche, this business of not being consumed by your desires, by your passion, this part of the teaching. I'm not clear, you know, about the difference between being completely open and absorbed in the experience, and not being attached to it, or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Completely absorbed and--?\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Say of-- say in the process of communication, saying being respectful of communications, you know, that your complete entire thing, or you're in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's some direction, once you are completely absorbed in it. But overwhelming, overwhelmed by it, means there's no direction. Which means there's still relationship of \"this\" and \"that\" is still there. And therefore \"that\" becomes more powerful than \"this\". Whereas in the case of absorption, well, \"this\" cease to happen. So there's not \"this,\" therefore \"that\" becomes everything. Complete absorption. So there's no one to overwhelmed *of*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's the difference between that and identification?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Identification? In what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the sense of like total [INAUDIBLE]. Like no \"this\", but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is identification.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There's no difference?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5046.0,5181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Why isn't sort of everybody sexually attracted to everybody? Except for, you know, various conceptions or our, you know, physical dislikes or things like that. It seems like if we were to completely be open, then there would be a strong sexual attraction to almost everyone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Well it doesn't seem to be possible -- unless you're a great adept. [Laughter; laughs; chatter] I mean you could say same thing, \"Why everybody couldn't love each other, compassionate to each other, everyone?\" And somehow that our \"me-ness\" contains a certain chemistry, which can be only met with another chemistry of similar type or similar area. Because you still maintain your own chemistry anyway. That's what I said, unless you're a great adept, selfless person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What about homosexual relationships?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that doesn't seem to be particularly an issue. What we are talking about-- we are talking about is purely communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So that's part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems. I mean there's of course the-- philosophical implication is that too much situation of overloaded-- passive overloaded of active, doesn't bring the proper electricity current. But that's-- that could be also questioned as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5181.0,5328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Isn't it very dangerous to have passion to be a ground to communicate with? I mean, it seems very-- it's impulsive and very frivolous, in a sense, if there's just so much energy-- very chemic-- of a very chemical nature. But it's so impulsive and so strong. And in a sense, can passion be extremely dangerous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Extremely dangerous, yeah. It's like riding on electricity. Sure. But maybe some situation maybe that's the only means.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well now where does the responsibility lie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5328.0,5376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, [INAUDIBLE] of the-- of sexual attraction [INAUDIBLE]. I mean take for example the story of LOLITA, you know, of Humbert Humbert is a man of thirty, and sort of that he falls in love with-- he wants to communicate with an eleven year- old girl [INAUDIBLE]. He wants to communicate with [INAUDIBLE]. So where's the responsibility? [INAUDIBLE]. I mean, is there any responsibility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, there should be. [Laughter] There should be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'm just trying to point out the fact that there may be [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, that there's a point of communication purely sake of communication, or communication with wisdom, skillful means. If you really communicating to a particular person, you wouldn't abuse them, at all. Because they are a feeble person, and you could possess them, eat them up. It's-- communication we are talking about is very awake communication. Communication with precision. And one doesn't have to think in terms of law or morality, but natural instinct of what is right, what's appropriate at the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Then how can an unnatural person have natural instincts, is what I'm asking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unnatural--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Only that it's natural in assume-- assume that those are his natural instincts, or, you know, take some other examples, [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't sound like it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, someone who is growing up in this world, like Lolita, doesn't know what natural or unnatural instincts are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's up to him. I mean he is the activator.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, but then you're saying his instincts are unnatural.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like it. [Laughter] I don't know the guy in person. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5376.0,5527.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Do you think group communication is frivolous or has to be frivolous, or could be something that is a real communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well group communication is-- it has much more dangerous situations of being frivolous, [laughter] or being extremely serious and solemn. Frivolousness is seem to be rather impulsive thing, therefore there could be caught by some other people, and it could ignite the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Just one person in the group could do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One or two people. One person, yeah, in the group could ignite the whole thing of frivolousness. Because when people are in the group, they are alert, they are-- have a sense of others, they're open. So, you are ready to be attacked anyway, you are in a weak situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But because they're open, that also if the frivolousness didn't happen, it would offer the situation to-- for real communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah. And that could grow up as well. Definitely. Unless group is individually tense. Like [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter] And then that case there's no point to be group at all. Unless they decide to be together, that master brought them up together, somehow or other, and everybody's mind is open to some-- they open there somehow rather than exit to somewhere or other. And it could be easily to be misused. I mean, like when person goes into a trance, spiritual trance, much easier them to for-- go to trance in the group. When one person goes into trance, begin to shake, everybody begin to pick up. His neighbors, and everybody begin to pick up. And everybody finally dances, goes to trance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5527.0,5684.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Rinpoche, you spoke of going with passion as being dangerous, and compared it to riding on electricity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well-- and if it reached the point of being like electricity, wouldn't it be extremely intelligent, and so it wouldn't be dangerous at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Equally. Equally, how you deal with it. I mean that's why-- most dangerous thing to have, things have most potentials. I mean like mentality of Hitler, for instance: either self-destructive or become universal monarch.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5684.0,5735.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Could we go back to what you said at the beginning about trying-- about being without aim or object, about functioning without aim or object?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Well like, tomorrow I have to go back to New York, and I have to get a job. I have to look for a job, because I have to work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: If I don't, you know, have an object--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: --then how do I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You look for job.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: I mean, wouldn't you just walk around, you know. Just go like, you know, flip a newspaper and say, [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter] You know, put different-- lots of choices in a hat, and pick out one, [INAUDIBLE] do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In hat?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter] I mean, you have to sort of-- I didn't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that doesn't mean to say that you don't have to plan anything. You plan everything. But you're planning accordance with your present state. You can't plan something terms of what you would be. Nothing can do that-- no one can do that. You can only plan what you are now, because now you need job, therefore you are working on that situation. So, without aim and object is dealing with the present situation, completely present situation. More you are realistic with the present situation, how much money you need, what kind of job you're capable to doing it, what kind of-- what sort of health you are, state of health you are, accordingly you work for-- you look for job. Whereas if person is slightly off the track of relating with the present moment, of \"what I would be,\" then quite likely your job would be disastrous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5735.0,5915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: You're talking about ambition. You're talking about not being-- not getting involved with ambition. Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, no. I'm very ambitious person myself. Extremely. Dangerously. [Laughter] But I relate with the now. How far you can go, how far you can't go. Sometimes ambitions can take you over to the future. And you get a job, and you have a house, and you have all this things, and this and that. *Then* you should get *this*. So you-- instead of going through the whole process, you just jump to your conclusion -- of what would you like to be, rather than what you are. Then you are in trouble. You could be ambitious. Nothing wrong about that. But as long as you stayed with this situation, this very realistic thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But ambition usually implies a future state, ambition to be something rather than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you have to start on something. That impractical to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5915.0,6027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I don't know why it's necessary to have ambition be some-- to be something. If-- I would rather think of it as a direction toward realization, toward realizing something. Then it doesn't need to go where anybody else roughshod, or have any of the unpleasant aspects of ambition -- and none of the phony aspects.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: None of the phony aspect.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Yeah, which is to be something that you aren't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you want to become a meditation teacher, you have to start by meditating.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: For about 20,000 years. You mean, I can't say anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can. But you have to start with what you are, where you are now. And usually the-- that is the concept actually. The concept cannot exist in the present state. Except that you're aware of that present state, of course, that kind of concept would be there. You're in now, and you're not past, you are not future, you're in now. Except that kind of concept. You can't have concept of: \"I will be professor. Therefore I *am* professor, so I behaving-- I should behave like professor right now,\" before you go to university. You can't do that. [Laughs] It seems that's what wrong with a lot of dictators, for instance, like Hitler, Mussolini. He hadn't conquered the world, but he behaved as though he conquered world. That's why he failed. Everything came back to him. He's not realistic enough of his present strength, his own mental health spir-- of-- physical health or spiritual, whatever's may be. Is he-- if somebody tells him that \"you can't do this, you can't overwork, you are sick man, you have to rest.\" I remember reading about that, that doctors approach to him and he just brushed them off. He just ignored the whole thing of the present state of his health even. That he behave like as though he's in strong and good health and universal conqueror. That's why he failed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I read somewhere else that he studied the tantras.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I heard too, but I'm not sure about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6027.0,6215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER: Rinpoche, can you-- you talked about having the attitude of sex being sacred? I found that I got confused, and tried to make sex-- tried to make the act of fucking a spiritual experience. It was like some kind of a breakthrough, you know. And I came to a point where it didn't work. [Laughter] You know, I mean like I-- it maybe worked a few times. I tried like, go back, you know. I was just... Could you say something about the relationship between like that-- just the attitude of mind and sex being sacred, and the possibility of sex being a real experience where breakthroughs happen, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, there again we got a double-- another double cross there. That if you trying to use as spiritual act, that you're ignoring the actual relationship of the moment there, and you're trying to impose something on the top of it. And of course wouldn't work. Because you are not able to relate with the present situation there. And you're begin to trying to put extra thing on it, which becomes a nuisance. When we talk about sacredness, or anything that nation-- that particular notion, is a personal experience of some state of nonselfishness, certain state of pure giving, pure action, beyond watcher. Seem to be that's the particular point.\r\n\r\n\r\nI see my friends. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Soon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6215.0,6394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, when you spoke of the four levels of the gods, were you implying any kind of progression, development, direction, or just four situations, four different situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's progressive stages.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Progressing to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The joy of communication is there already. It's like-- also describes in tantra of four types of joy. I don't remember. How does it go? It's-- the first one is joy. And next one is superior joy. And the next one is complete joy. And next one is joyless joy. It's sort of related with that. Is also from the yogic practice of dealing with the chakras, that experience a different part of chakra. The first one is sort of physical activator, physical activation. And next one is lesser physical. So gradually everything goes to the more and more subtle state of lesser, lesser physical. And finally whole thing becomes complete or joyless joy, which is I suppose equivalent of smiling.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Is this related to the four abhishekas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too complicated to go through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That smile would be a smileless smile, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That smile would be a smileless smile I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Smile would be what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: *Smileless* smile.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Or maybe smile without a face. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Cheshire cat. [Laughs; laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6394.0,6582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In some of the Zen texts about meditation there's often some point of feeling yourself down in what they call a hara or down to whatever, down there, you know, in the belly. And then I-- it seems that I don't know so much about the Hindu things, but in the Hindu things there seems to be a point of concentration up between the eyes. It seems to be, sort of, some kind of qualitative difference, whether if you-- like you're living down there, you're living up here, or here, whatever. But in the-- there-- in the Zen thing there's some effort to just-- to be located in some way down there. What do you like to-- and what do you have to say about that, would it make any difference or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean where you're living at?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah. Yeah, in terms of a center in the body. And also in connection with meditation. I mean I was asking in connection with meditation, but may-- but also I mean apart from that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that... in connection with the meditation and the whole thing that there's no dwelling place in anywhere. It's like in Zen tradition, you begin with the abdomen. And maybe you use koan to go through the-- burn out the intellectualization on it. And then finally you reach stage of \"shikantaza,\" just sitting without doing anything, not meditating either. It's that kind of situation where as long as you begin relate with the-- any bodily situation of directions, you still have direction, you still have aim and object. You still have \"that\" and \"this\", much stronger, powerfully. Whereas if you don't have relating process of \"this\" at all, then the whole thing becomes more spacious. So it seems that way we describe the whole thing is living on not here at all, but living on totality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Outside of [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everywhere. That also means here as well, of course, when we say everywhere. But here is not particularly important -- here is just here. But that permeates everywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6582.0,6774.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So, if in meditation I mean just naturally when-- seems for a while in beginning meditation to ha-- to be sort of centered up here, that's all right? There's no need to make an effort, really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But even that should be transcended.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah. You see once you begin to relate with any particular centers of body symbolical mandala, you're dealing with energies, specific energies. And they could become very specific and very demanding, fussy. Unless you have constant attention, you take-- quite likely is that you're going-- tend to blow up the whole thing. It has been said that a wild yogi is like drunken elephant. The yogi of purely working on a psychic phenomenal situation is like drunken elephant -- unpredictable and quite likely to step on any dangerous situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: There must also be an elephantless elephant, no?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, don't think so. Elephant *of* elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Elephant *of* elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: *Off* elephant?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Of, of.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Of elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So what-- I mean, what is the-- I mean you-- what is the way to avoid that wildness, or are you implying to avoid it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, work with space. You are not trodding on anybody's toe, at all. You are just simply using the space where everything's permeated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6774.0,6889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So in terms of letting go of the watcher, you would let go after you were in that space? Does that have-- I mean, I still have some difficulty with the notion of letting go of the watcher at the same time that there are things to do and not do. There...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There are do--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: There are things to do and not do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: There are-- and same time when one's let go of the watcher.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you begin with I suppose the watcher, up to the point that watcher itself begin to take part in it, so watcher doesn't required anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Not until the watcher is [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Not until the watch--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --watcher [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Until the watcher lose his function.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6889.0,6948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, that blowing up process that you described, that could be a creative thing, couldn't it? And I find sometimes when I meditate I feel like, you know, a head without a body. That I'm so much in my head with that kind of energy and so forth. And if that sensation blew up couldn't that be a positive thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could that be--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Positive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is still a faint sort of handle of something, which keep us not being open person. Just sort of keep us not being creative, because you have something to nurse, something to hang onto.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the notion of dwelling on something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So, it's not really a blow up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not in the wild sense, *real* wild sense. It's kind of pseudo wild.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=6948.0,7057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What is it exactly, this blow-up? I didn't understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's when there is possibilities of stepping out of somewhere, leaping out. I suppose that could be said a blow up, but you still have the notion of leap very strongly in you, that holds you being leaping.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But can't some sort of minor transformation occur as a surprise to you? That there is a sudden switch, that you are able to see something that you couldn't see before, long before you are really an open person. But in that sense suddenly there is still a watcher, because the watcher notices. I suppose I shouldn't ask this because you have covered this ground many times.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well something is not quite free there, still.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What I'm driving at is, one can't expect freedom. But a little bit of something can come on the way as a surprise, as an element that has not quite been there before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could, yes. You could. But in order to happen that, somehow you have to give an inch. Somehow freedom had to depend on imprisonment. When you cease to imprison yourself, then you're free. So that whenever there's a sort of faint imprisonment is involved, then you are not free. And unless you give up that imprisonment notion -- just little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=7057.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But are there more than one types of energy? You know, like there's this different psychic energy through your different chakras [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's a lot. There lot of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: No, but is there something like beyond it, or on a different plane, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On a different plane, yes, definitely. Energy that doesn't dwell on anything. That's the, I suppose, thing we be talking about the creative energy, which doesn't have to refer back to its headquarters anymore, just free developing energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=7200.0,7243.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could that also be connected though with something like the chakras or the hara? I mean, like does psychic energy, the hara, does that become-- or not become, but to be on the right basis with it, where it's creative energy, and not necessarily blow up? From what I understand of it, it does supply a lot of energy, I mean just in a practical sense. Or working, it stabilizes you. You're in the right physical center of your body, you've got a sense of balance. Supposedly your mind is clearer, for just thinking, you know, like how to do this or that. For that sort of reason, is it worth any sort of pursuit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any sort of--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Pursuit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well that seem to be the problem as well at the same time. That you have some source to relate to your balance. And that means that balance is dependent on something, so fundamentally it's not really balance at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But once you've had it, even though you pursued it to get it, could you for-- then forget about the pursuit? Or the fact that you, you know, that you don't have to dwell on it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't work that way, somehow. It had to maintain as is-- was, as it were-- as it developed. It's like if you're born as a-- you're conceived as a cow, you grow up as a cow. I mean you can't change in halfway, that you decide to be human. Do you see, the whole process of birth is important. That's why the whole thing. You can't change the course on halfway. Once you got it you got it. That's what exactly karmic processes means. So there's no choice in that sense, it doesn't seem to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=7243.0,7383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93284/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But l heard that in order to develop psychic energy of hara, it develops in proportion to how much you become egoless yourself. So then, it would develop as you were not dwelling on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what we are-- seem to dealing is not only purely egoless, we are not seem to working on the basis of absence of anything. You see, once you develop egoless state, when you be still aware of the egolessness, the absence of ego itself, that becomes in itself dwelling place. There's all sorts of subtle dwelling places involved right there with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, it sounds like a good idea to [INAUDIBLE] that whole thing altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. [laughter] If I were you -- or you were me. 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Completely\nabsorbed\nand--?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5079.99,5083.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93285/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH ASTOR: Say of--\nsay in the process\nof communication,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264#t=5083.07,5086.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169616/file/308264/transcript/93285/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying being respectful\nof 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