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This space of totality has the qualities of accommodating, all-pervading, and nonduality. In terms of the five buddha principles, the totality itself is buddha; the accommodating, or energetic aspect is karma and vajra; and the all-pervading, or expansive aspect is padma and ratna. The buddha mandala is powerful because it does not depend on feedback from the relative world. We have to be willing to work with our samsaric mandala first, so we can eventually see world as it is beyond concepts. Also discussed: mantra as not definite words to hold onto, but abstract cosmic sounds."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Orderly Chaos","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: ORDERLY CHAOS: Part 1, Chapter 7: The Mandala of Unconditioned Being\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/orderly-chaos-1128.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book ORDERLY CHAOS)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 16 2023 to Jun 23 2025\nTranscribing: Blaire Martin\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About the buddha mandala: the totality of dharmata, or the true nature of reality. This space of totality has the qualities of accommodating, all-pervading, and nonduality. In terms of the five buddha principles, the totality itself is buddha; the accommodating, or energetic aspect is karma and vajra; and the all-pervading, or expansive aspect is padma and ratna. The buddha mandala is powerful because it does not depend on feedback from the relative world. We have to be willing to work with our samsaric mandala first, so we can eventually see world as it is beyond concepts. Also discussed: mantra as not definite words to hold onto, but abstract cosmic sounds."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mandala: The Structure of Unconditioned Energy, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number seven, August 27th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the mandala, Tail of the Tiger, August 1972, talk seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continue what we discussed yesterday on the ideas of totality and total space of dharmata. That basic understanding of totality, or that basic situation, rather, of totality, has different aspects of totality. Like we could discuss the aspect or attributes of space: the accommodating aspect and all-pervading aspect. And similarly, that totality of basic mandala unconditioned state -- unconditioned *being* rather than state -- has the element of accommodating and also it has the element of vastness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=41.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from this point of view, the accommodating becomes energetic one, because \"accommodation\" in the ordinary sense of the word is allowing a space to develop, or allowing things to develop within that space. In other word, that if trees grow and grasses grow, that the space is also taking part in that growth, that energy, at the same time, simultaneously. Without the basic space that there cannot be tree or grasses or any kind of energy developing. So that's the sense of efficiency. And the other aspect of sense of acceptance, or sense of letting things to expand in its fullest sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=134.0,188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when we talk about the five buddha principles, it is not so much we are talking about the five buddha principles are being individual, definite entities; but this sense of basic totality allows to accommodate and allows things to happen. So it's not so much of that there are five types of buddha qualities, but there is five aspect within the whole totality. So we are discussing-- we are talking of aspect of one situation from different angles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=188.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is two basic qualities. And these are being the energy or the efficiency aspect of the space, and the other one is being expansiveness of it. And all those two types of situations functions on a level of nondual -- not-two -- situation, which makes third type of quality. So we have the not-two, or nondual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=241.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And totality is being the buddha family, which is constantly accommodating in its own fullest way, unmoved by any particular events. It is symbolized in the iconographical tradition of a wheel eternally revolving -- the sense of timelessness, constant being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=286.0,336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the energy aspect, which is karma and vajra. The efficiency. All these different distinctions or different descriptions that we are going through is, again, not so much from the point of view of what contained, but from the only point of view of the container. So the efficiency from this point of view is accommodating the efficiency rather than being efficient, in terms of active.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=336.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And two way of our instigating efficiency. One is the sharpness of vajra, which covers all the territory and all the areas. That there's no unsurveyed areas left from the point of view of space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What was that word? No unsurveyed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=397.0,423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unsurveyed. And because of that, we could use a relative word \"intellect,\" but that may not be applicable from the point of view of its absolute level. Intellect in a sense of its precision and sharpness, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=423.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the other aspect which is karma. It's being not so much of efficient in the sense of covering all the areas, but believing in the automatic fulfillment. Things been already fulfilled, so therefore there is ongoing energy of total functioning all the time. Because you don't have to try to function or try to fulfill, but it is automatic fulfillment. It's being fulfilled, rather than trying to push into any particular area. Which is karma. In other words, seeing the totality of action as it is, so there's no struggle involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=456.0,528.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then there's the sense of accommodation, accommodating aspect of the dharmata, or basic space, is that of padma and that of ratna. So from the point of view of ratna, that everything is seen as same, or oneness, or sameness. So in other word, the question of expanding into a certain territory does not apply anymore, because space is self-existing situation from this point of view. It's constantly being, in the sense of total confident or total pride, whatever you'd like to call it. Acknowledging the self-existing dignity, or being in a self-existed dignity. There is no room to move about or speculate or maneuver -- completely total.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=528.0,632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the next situation, that's the padma, which is that total sense of existence also has a tremendous sense of self-contained. Having already developed richness of its dignity, that one automatically, almost we could say, expect magnetism, or commands magnetism. But again, when we talk about \"command\" or \"expect,\" it's insufficient terms of relative word. It's not expect because that you feel there is a center and fringe, notion of \"this\" and \"that,\" or command in the sense of that you are marching into somebody's territory and trying to suck them into it. But it's like a magnet being in its own way, rather than magnet have to exercise its magnetic qualities. Sort of self-contained magnet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=632.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And these five types of qualities are the basic constituents of mandala situation. And reason why it is a mandala situation is because that they all relate with each other. Almost like saying the same thing five different ways. Basically its whole thing is being. Being without a struggle, being without a journey. And being without a journey, being without a struggle has different expressions, not because it is a relationship situation, but it's just a simple way of existing. And because it's simple way of existing, therefore that one could afford to be free and without aggression, without fight, without struggle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=737.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we got into the details of iconographical meanings on the mandala diagram, or the picture of a mandala, requires several years of time and space. But [we're] trying to put everything into a so-called nutshell. That basic accommodating being also contains tremendous power, invincible power. Because this does not depend on existence of relative world. So if it's not depend on existing in the relative world, then it does not need any feedbacks. And if this does not need any feedbacks, further feedbacks, it is not threatened by anything at all. And such, you can almost say 200 percent energy power -- if there's such thing, which is again relative language. It could be seen as extraordinary wrathful situation. Wrath without anger, wrath without hatred, but being in a state of invincibility. Wrath in the sense of like living flame -- it does not allow any dualistic or relative concept perch on it. And if such situation occurred, it burns out automatically, consumes it out. And also this contains tremendous peacefulness as well at the same time. Not peaceful in the sense of the absence of wrath, but peacefulness in the sense of there's no reason why shouldn't be peaceful. Because its totality is always there, and therefore, it is luminous and it is pure and it accommodate everything with a non-dualistic compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=840.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, the idea of conflict is generally based on that we are entrapped in a relative world. That is to say, that first starting point of confusion or the chaos comes from maintaining a point, maintaining some situation. As soon as when we try to maintain a point, the occupation that involves in the process of maintaining is depend on the threat that comes from all areas, which channels into the possibilities not able to maintaining. Otherwise, there's no question maintaining involved at all. The question doesn't arise at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1112.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of the sense of relationship of maintaining and protecting, the threat of maintaining brings relationship between zero and one. In other word, the one is depend on zero, and zero is depend on the one. It's not even point of relationship between one and two at all. Sanskrit word for \"advaita\" [ed: \"advaya\"] or Tibetan word for \"nyi-me\" literally means \"not-two.\" In this case, not-two is being \"no zero, no one.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1179.0,1295.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, as soon as we begin to talk in terms of a pattern, or begin to even imagine, or begin to barely think about vague perceptions of point of reference, or whatever, then that becomes both the birth of samsara and nirvana in the popular terms. So in other word, that it is possible to have a world -- complete world, pragmatic world -- beyond point of reference. It is possible. In fact, it is highly possible. It is much more solid than the world of relativity, which is a weak point, interdependent situation subject to constant death and birth, and all other kind of threats constantly comes in until finally becomes extraordinarily freaky. That one never knows who is who, what is what, which is which. Like the idea of \"who's on first, what's on second?\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1295.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The misunderstanding starts from right at the beginning. So when you try to correct it, then it becomes further misunderstanding. In other word, there's an entirely new area, or another dimension, which does not need proof or interpretation, point of reference. It is highly possible. Not only possible, but it is *so*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1436.0,1486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such inspiration developed into a beautiful work of art, an imaginary nonexistence world, non-dualistic world. And as tradition develops and personal experience had developed, that there were something like 725 basic mandalas have developed. And each of them are extraordinarily detailed, very precise. That the one mandala contains maybe 500 divinities in them. Which each of those expressions, each patterns of those divinities, are based on that five principles of the different aspect or different attributes of the space, basic totality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1486.0,1553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not just something developed by the yogis or the siddhas, just purely got drunk on amrita and they just put things out at random at all. And each points are very definite and very precise. So in other word, that we could develop world of precision, world of definite clear way of thinking and functional world, without the other areas that we be talking about. It is highly possible. It has been happened and happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1553.0,1611.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be some problems arising particularly related with the mandala. People talk in terms of being purely object of meditation, and you gaze at certain diagrams with the colors on them. And by gazing at, then you turned on. And from the level of sanity, optical illusions not particularly crutches to get into higher level, or diagrammatic patterns are not crutches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1611.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the basic teaching of mandala has been presented many times, 725 times, basically. That's only belong to the lower tantra of kriyayoga. And higher tantras, goodness knows, there are millions of mandalas. It multiplies each time, all the time. There are six yanas yet to go. The first one is being kriyayoga tantra: you have 725 mandalas. And as you go on, until you get to the maha ati atiyoga practice, that the mandalas become so many multiplied by itself, so much, that finally becomes nonexistence. The boundaries begin to dissolve. It's such invasion on the privacy. That's why it is called freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo taking those attitudes as some functional working basis situations, we might have to get through this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1669.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People visualizing mandala deity could be approached from two angles. That of the pure way of relating thought patterns, mind's game. Instead of dwelling on the Grand Central Station and visualizing it, you might as well visualize something means lot. Eventually, that you might visualize a Avalokiteshvara, or the mandala of Tara, or Guhyasamaja, or whatever. Kind of substitute. If you have to have crutches, why not make out of gold -- rather than aluminum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1770.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's another approach to visualization, is being the sense of familiarity with such ideas like mandala thing we be discussing in this seminar. And you turn your attitude towards it with the understanding that you can't grasp it, or nearly grasping it, but there is-- such area does exist. And turn our mind towards it and relate with our sense of unknown territory and the mysteriousness of whole being. That sense of mysteriousness brings all kinds of space. That you don't state facts by facts. And you don't present yourself package deal, logically everything is sound and solid without any room. But presenting yourself with some doubt. There are basic logics -- that three times three makes nine, or whatever. But at the same time, allowing some gap, some doubt, of possibilities of being something further, some kind of further journey is necessary. And one can turn one’s attitude towards that. That's the beginning of awakening process, towards giving up your logical game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1860.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And eventually, that as we got into the basic mandala as it is, with all the understanding of the whole samsaric game and whole dharmadhatu situations -- I mean the original dharmadhatu [laughs; laughter] -- that one begin to realize teachings being taught by tradition are not purely tradition of particular culture. But teachings taught through the tradition, or language of the tradition, is constantly up-to-date. When person ideally should be able to relate with such mandala and also visualizations of those mandalas, that person should be able to relate with them as your own portrait of your own discovery, rather than the foreign culture that you are trying to dwell on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=1955.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That interestingly, in Chinese tradition, that bodhisattvas, and even certain herukas, or tantric deities, been painted as wearing imperial costumes, Chinese imperial costumes. And in India, of course, the original origin of tantric, birth of tantracism, that these deities being depicted by an Aryan king who wears a crown with five types of jewels inlaid and all the costumes of an Aryan king. So from this point of view, practice is not regarded as entirely anthropomorphic at all. But it is designed or taught for the six realms of world, altogether: realm of animal, realm of hungry ghost, and realm of gods, and so forth, realm of human beings. It's not anthropomorphic. Particularly tantric approach to practice is absolutely not anthropomorphic. Whereas you might say the hinayana approach is much more so, and mahayana approach is less, but still. And the vajrayana approach to practice is cosmic one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2047.0,2174.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Same as the mantra which comes with the visualizations are not regarded as certain definite words which made sense, like a certain phrase that you can keep your mind back [in the back of your mind] if you are freaking. But mantra, from this point of view, is also regarded as an ultimate incantation. The ultimate incantation is that there's no room for mind to dwell on when you say something nonsense, transcendental nonsense. Which doesn't make any sense; at the same time, it does make sense because its nonsense quality. That just it's echo, like the idea of sound of one hand clap, nonexistent sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2174.0,2273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And usually mantra is regarded as abstract sound, rather than it meant something. From that point of view, seem to be quite different from that of a prayer. But approach to prayer from the Christian point of view, like Hesychast of Greek Orthodox traditions. In PHILOKALIA, it talks about-- you repeat the prayer at the beginning with intention, with direction, sense of purpose, and you go on and on, and you go on and on and on. Finally, one is uncertain who is saying the prayer and who's not saying the prayer. And one begin to lose the sense of direction, in the sense of one tend to become free from sense of direction, rather than lose, in terms of confusion. But you become less confused, therefore you become more accommodating. Finally, the prayers repeats as beat of your heart. And finally prayer repeats itself. In fact, prayer is repeating you rather than you are repeating the prayer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2273.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that approach that we could say the mantric approach is starting whole thing at the beginning, even not as a prayer but as just a certain cosmic sound goes along with certain cosmic visual situations of deities, mandalas, whatever. Six-armed deity with eighteen heads, four legs, holding different scepters in the hands and wearing a human skin, on top of that wearing elephant skin, and wearing tiger skin as a skirt, and ornamented by skull crowns of all kinds, surrounded by flame, uttering magic words such as like HUM and PHAT. Very vivid. But at the same time, it's not pop art, by all means. It's transcendental art. These expressions become extraordinary powerful and vivid and real, as long as we begin to give up the boundary of dualistic approach of evaluating these situations. If there's no evaluating situations anymore at all, then whole thing becomes very lively, very real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2355.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it seems that problem arises here with us is that we have to have definite sense of commitment to ourselves. That we are willing to work with our basic samsaric mandala to begin with, not looking for something better than this. But making best of samsaric situations, working with that. Having worked with that samsaric situation, then gradually develops into the background, or the environment where samsaric mandala functions. One begin to discover there is something more than just this world alone, from our sense of dualistic world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2475.0,2523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't mean to say there's another world, in the sense of a moon or the Mars or the heavens, or whatever. In other word, in the sense there's another discovery that we could make. That we see a blade of grass, but we could see furthermore blade-of-grassness. And we could see the blade of grass in its own full totality. And then we begin to see the greenness of the blade of grass as its innate nature. And its whole being is actually without any confirmation. It happens to be really true blade of grass in which the mandala experience begin to occur. It is seeing the true world, hundred-percent world, without distortion, without conceptualizing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it takes a lot of steps. And it seems that we can't begin unless we are willing to begin at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2523.0,2608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Regarding the beginning, misunderstanding comes in at the beginning. Does also a glimpse or taste of nondualistic totality also come in at the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why there was misunderstanding. Misunderstanding have to be accommodated in somewhere. So we can't condemn as being mistake, or \"Fall of Man.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2608.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yesterday, we spoke of-- I thought you were speaking of the sensation of spaciousness, of greater spaciousness, as being one that belonged to the concept of prajna, basic. Whereas the sensation of nondualism, really was more in the jnana realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: A very unclear distinction for me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's like what we've been discussing yesterday and today, or what we're experiencing. So we may be discussing about jnana in terms of its absolute totality, but we are relating it as an outsider's point of view, or we're relating as an experience. Then it becomes prajna, or the knowledge, information. Until we completely are totally identify with the whole thing, that process of being is not question of learning how to be, but just to be. Becomes different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2646.0,2751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You compared the-- or you described the characteristic of the vajra as prajna, which, does that imply that it's subject-and-object oriented? Or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In vajra?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. Because, I mean, according to what you were just saying about prajna, that I can't put that together.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the vajra experience of intellect is jnana level, which is just total seeing through everything. Which is transcending the idea of prajna, which is still somewhat adolescent approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2751.0,2798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: From the non-dualistic level, from that perspective, could there be such things as buddha families, and prajna, and a world of distinctions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's exactly what we've been discussing today. Even from the level of nondual reality, that it is the realm of jnana constantly. So therefore there is discriminating awareness wisdom happening all the time. And there will be, in fact, a living world which is much more so than we think we are living in the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: It sounds like it's impossible because of the contradiction there. Because to discriminate is to find duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can find duality. Duality in this case is-- what we are talking about the realm of relative world is we are talking terms of purely psychological terms. It is that of dualistic fixation, relative fixation, relative hang-ups, rather than seeing things as two. Is not regarded as dualistic fixation, but that's regarded as discriminating awareness. I mean, enlightened person will be able to go down the street and take his bus. [laughter] As a matter of fact, much better than ourselves, because he's always there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2798.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the role of meditation practice and meditation experience in beginning at the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, practice is at the beginning, right at the beginning, is acceptance of the fool. Completely acknowledge that you are making yourself a fool, pretend to be meditating, [laughter] rather than that you are doing something, transcending something or holy or being good. [Laughter] If you start from that level of matter-of-fact level, acknowledging one's deceptions, and then one begin to pick up something more than being fool. That there's something in it. And one begin to learn to be-- give. You don't have to defend yourself constantly anymore at all. So that practice is tremendous discipline in our daily living situation. It's not so much of the sitting practice alone, but it's practice in the sense of the total life situation becomes part of meditation. Which provides lot of ground to be able to relate with the things very simply, without concepts involved. And then some stage, of course, one begin to lose even the effort or the awareness of self-consciousness that you are meditating. And one begin to-- one's boundary of meditation begin to dissolve into non-meditation, or all-meditation, and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: That initial wanting, though, isn't that spiritual materialism, too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is so, but at least it's quite genuine one rather than pretended one. Which makes things much more simpler. I mean, obviously, you feel that you wanted to achieve something in the beginning. That's okay and one begin to get into it. Whereas the deceptive aspect of spiritual materialism is that you're not even facing the facts of your neurosis. But each time when you practice something, that you're going to get a magical power in you so that you become powerful, rather than you're unmasking yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So more or less we want to get back to that initial wanting, which is the energy--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, everybody does that, in any case. Otherwise there's no stepping stone, there's no language. So that's exactly what I mean by saying, \"regard yourself as a fool.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=2910.0,3092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, could you explain what you mean by accommodating again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the sense of non-defensive.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What was the question, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What does it mean by accommodating we discussed in the talk? It's a sense of being, accommodating the richness or the expansiveness and the magnetic qualities, without making a solid boundary. It's not accommodating in terms of effort, but is just being accommodated [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Without any boundaries?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, without any relative relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3092.0,3166.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How does all this highly intellectual talk get us closer to nirvana and farther from samsara?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you approach it from that angle, it doesn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, of course not. But isn't that the angle from which it is being approached?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, there's always this kind of, have to speak in relative language.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which automatically becomes an intellectual one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I wonder that the word \"compassion\"...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: About what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, granted, the need to speak in relativistic language.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I don't know, I asked my question sincerely. I have found the talk confusing for myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that seem to be the whole point, is that you should have some-- we should realize there's some discrepancies. That everything not clear-cut and black and white. That to create-- to begin with, if you feel confused, that's the starting point. When you are confused, you don't believe in your confusion being this is the answer. Because you're confused, you feel that answer is not clear. Which invites further questions, which is impregnated questions which contains answer in itself. So one begin to work from that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in other word, the teaching altogether is not meant to be everything sound and solid and precise, so that you don't have to work for at all and teaching begin to feed you constantly. And the meaning-- the reason of presenting teaching, the points of view, is to make you work further, confuse you more. And you have to get through the confusion. It's the encouragement to find the stepping stone which is closest to you, i.e. being confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3166.0,3339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Would you say that unconditioned energies and non-dualistic energies have as, like, resource the energies which are still conditioned? Or is the relationship something more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With the conditional ones? Do you mean -- I didn't quite catch you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Whether the unconditioned energies feed on or have resource--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --in what is still conditioned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say. Unconditioned energy is self-perpetuating, because there's no relations involved. Its being is like the space itself, which does not have central point of space with the fringe around it. It remains itself as it is, it feeds by, it sort of lives by itself. And conditioned energy are also accommodating [accommodated in] this unconditional one. But somehow it expresses the unconditioned energy from the point of view of conditional one. But it doesn't really feed or doesn't survive on it, particularly. And that's why the unconditioned [conditioned] energy becomes redundant, from the point of view of conditional-- unconditional energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Redundant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The conditioned energy becomes redundant because it's needless to exist. That's why it is for the very reason stagnating itself, because there's no outlet. And it becomes a self-perpetuating death and rotting process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3339.0,3472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you said-- mentioned that in China there developed different visualizations of the various deities -- or some of them. And that, that it wasn't a-- that the tradition is an up-to-date one. And I was wondering, in that regards, in regards of American Buddhism, do we, or would we develop our own visualizations of these various deities that would be kind of more appropriate to us? Or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [UNCLEAR: You could have police  force on the horse?] instead of mahakalas and things like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Herukas wearing blue jeans? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think what’s been developed already in China, for instance, was very unselfconscious one. Just developed or evolved itself that way. But in the case of the Western situation, is that we are highly self-conscious thing. And it is been already raped. The whole art is already raped and already put into conditional situations. And made into pop art or collage of putting a Tibetan painting with astronauts walking across, or whatever, you know. It's been so degenerated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the point is that if we could make it less self-conscious one, it could develop. But since it already self-conscious world, probably become very difficult. And in fact, that's happened in Tibet as well, opposed to the Chinese who took very freely. But Tibetans were very self-conscious in their culture. They regard their culture as inferior to the Aryan culture of India. And Indians used to refer Tibet as the \"preta-puri,\" which means the \"place of the hungry ghost\" [laughter], uncultured, savage-like. And they would become very self-conscious of it. So therefore, instead of creating Tibetan deity, they still decide to take refuge in the Aryan culture in beginning. So in Tibet, Tibetan visualizations, there's no Tibetan noble man in form of a Vairochana, or anything like that at all. That's interesting analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3472.0,3670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When an offering is made in the form of a mandala, or as a mandala, why is that or how is it done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well mandala from this point of view is not the mandala of the realms of buddhas or samsaric being. But the mandala in the sense of purely the universe. It's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: In the sense that, say, Naropa, offered a mandala to Tilopa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that’s not mandala in the sense of a psychological or spiritual one. But it's just purely the portraits of the continents with the oceans and everything. Which representing that you're giving your ground to the person so you have nowhere to live. An ultimate sense of \"refugee.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3670.0,3733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I didn't understand your answer two questions ago. Would you say then that, as I heard it, that all existence are redundant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's question of the energies of samsaric or the energies of relative world, is the stagnating energies. Because it has no way out, or only way that it could regain itself is getting from its own source, which is already very stagnating.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But there is such a thing as pure expression of pure energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is you have to get out of the whirlpool of relative world. And then it becomes an open one, because for the very reason you are not depend on the relative world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3733.0,3796.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: From the point of view of \"not-two,\" how does compassion arise?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well because it seems that its basic existence of not willing to dwell on the point of reference, which provides lot of space to be. So compassion is being an open space in which that things could be accommodated. Rather than repelling the situations, that you are not willing to accommodate anything, willing to accept anything. So compassion is being creating open space, accepting things can happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How do you create that openness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you have to create it, then it cease to become compassion. To begin with, I suppose, we-- in order to develop compassion, we have to willing to be alone, lonely. That you are completely totally in a desolate situation, which means also open space as well at same time. Developing compassion is not question of acquiring a partnership, but everything is open. So the sense of loneliness is way of starting compassion. Aloneness, loneliness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, slightly miscellaneous question. [Laughter] It's not very relevant to this, the topic that is. I came across in [Edward] Conze -- and I've come across at home also -- the stress on pronouncing each syllable of a mantra accurately. It seems that at least in the Heart Sutra mantra, which we chant fairly often, people just mispronounce it totally. And I'd asked, I think, Kesang [Tania Leontov], about this, what you had to say. And apparently she said that-- I mean, you hadn't said anything. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Had not said anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Or anyway, it was something like that. What do you have to say about it, if anything? [Laughter] I mean, in Conze, it says that the exact syllable and the rhyme and the rhythm, whatever it is, each has its specific way of either turning you on or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, as long as we decide to chant in Sanskrit, or use that particular language, it had to be a very accurate one. Otherwise, it just become an expression of illiteracy, rather than anything mystical about it. [Laughter] It's very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Could you give the accurate pronunciation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Of the GATE GATE mantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What was the mispronunciation anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Kunga does it beautifully. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: GATE GATE GATE is a very simple one. I don't see how people can mispronounce-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The pronunciation I've come across is \"gah-tee gah-tee para-gah-tee para-some-gah-tee bodhi svaha.\" You know, it's that sort of so distorted. It [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No, you do it right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: No. I mean, he's the teacher. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be very very simple there. There's no problem of it. It GATE, you know, TE--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: GATE GATE PARAGATE PARASAMGATE BODHI SVAHA. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I know it's very simple, but some people don't seem to either be aware of it or whatever. That was my point. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure by now. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807#t=3796.0,4091.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154708/file/283807/transcript/82201/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, in the beginning of the seminar you talked about the boundary a lot. And I was thinking, in terms of, let's say, the center of the mandala being ignorance, what is the boundary? I remember a couple times when talking mandala, you talked about in the sense of it being boundless. 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That constant involved with the space. And so the understanding of mandala goes on -- or the irritating aspect of mandala goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it's not something that you turn off here, because the end of seminar and you got your money's worth, alone. But there's something more than that. Something that you can't forget and switch off. Even if you try to do so, it goes on all the time. So in other word, that such commitment and such way of getting information is not just purely the informations, but it's also totalities of the whole thing. That either you relate with your life situation and finding out more.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you are interested in studying certain books, there is a book written by Professor [Giuseppe] Tucci called Meaning of the Mandala [THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF THE  MANDALA] , or something that. It's written by Professor Tucci. Would be-- technically it's quite interesting and good. And I can't imagine-- I can't think of any other books that might be good on this particular subject. But anything connected with the principles of psychological pattern, such as like the hinayanist book on abhidharma, on the Buddhist psychology, would be very useful, and very important to get into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: You yourself, I believe, wrote a foreword to another book on the mandala, which [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Foreword? Yeah, I just wrote foreword. [Laughter] Yeah, read that. [Laughs; laughter] Have a good summer. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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