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Open space taken over as ego's territory, of separateness, uncertainty, suffering. Clear description of how five skandhas develop [form, feeling, perception, formation, consciousness]. Gaps in process as opening for meditation. How meditation works with confusion. Understanding workings of mind, intellectually and experientially, essential for spiritual practice. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] what bravery is; [Q6] description of basic space and confusion; [Q9] why we create separateness; [Q10] relationships with people connection with sense of isolation; [Q12] what to do with ego; [Q14] how to let go; [Q15] positives that arise from experience of no self, space in meditation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 19 2024 to Apr 30 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. 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In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] what bravery is; [Q6] description of basic space and confusion; [Q9] why we create separateness; [Q10] relationships with people connection with sense of isolation; [Q12] what to do with ego; [Q14] how to let go; [Q15] positives that arise from experience of no self, space in meditation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Understanding the Neurotic Aspects of Mind, given in New York City. This is talk two, given on October 23rd, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made June 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the Neurotic Aspects of Mind, second lecture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=0.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The neurotic aspect of mind, which is a basic starting point of any possible awakening, as well as possible confusion. That it seems this neurotic aspect of mind begins from a certain open space, which is being limited by constant active energy. Once this space is limited by constant energy, and that energy is also being put into a certain basic dualistic framework, that dualistic framework of energy is-- it seem to be the starting point. And then there is tendency to maintain that individuality, which supposedly trying to isolate oneself from any external connection. And from that process of isolation, isolating oneself from the basic space, basic open space, also brings uncertainty -- uncertainty of what one is, and uncertainty of what one's situation is, whether one does have to-- whether one have to maintain oneself or whether one have to let go. The conflict begin to arise at the beginning. When there was question of whether one should let go, in some situations that the letting go begins when there is attempt to let go and just one tend to let go. And that's what's known as the primordial buddha, Samantabhadra, which is that certain looseness begin to develop when the question of letting go or still hold on to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=54.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be the point where question of samsara and nirvana begin to start from there: whether one should let go, or whether one should continuously hang on to. And when someone trying to hang on to it, hold on to it, then there had to be some style of holding on to it. That style of holding on to it had to be a very aggressive one, trying to maintain one's individuality and trying to seal off any possibilities of any exit of stepping out into openness or letting go. So one tend to develop a very fixed and definite pattern, and one would like to live in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=240.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time there is a faint paranoia develops, a certain intuitive feeling of that one's going too far somehow. There is a faint sadness of isolation because we deliberately cut ourselves away from the basic open space, as well as there is a certain sense of confusion to find one's further directions. It's like a space odyssey, by a space odyssey without remote control, sort of space odyssey with a manual mechanism. That you have nowhere to check about on how you do it. You just are separated from the earth, and you are just floating in space, and there is a sense of isolation, sense of fear. But also since you are there already, that there is no other way except to take a chance of stepping out -- which might be possibility, but at the same time that also could be suicidal, then one never quite knows quite certain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=287.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because of those collections of paranoia and collections of sadness of isolation, aloneness, and all these collections, brings-- tend to make ourselves very tough and very aggressive. It seems that aggression is only way to maintain our individuality from that point of view. And that aggression had to be unintelligent aggression, otherwise the aggression could become also, at the same time, intelligent one. And if there's aggression develops intelligently, then one cannot maintain that aggression at all. So the process of basic neurosis begins from that way, and that also contains a certain amount of bewilderment or confusion. And aggression trying to lead into ignoring oneself, and finally just trying to stick to basic paranoia and basic isolation and loneliness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=361.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So fundamentally that kind of ego contains a tremendous sadness, tremendous sense of rejected. But one is not quite certain who rejected, or why you are rejected, and how you are rejected. But fundamentally it's very sad thing, that you are completely rejected. And whenever we tend to think of the alternatives of getting back to open space, then again that seem to be some fascination to maintain that rejection and maintain that sadness. And sadness is tend to become occupation, in a sense one enjoys in certain way. So one doesn’t want to really let go at all, but on the other hand one doesn't really want to hang on to it, it's so painful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=435.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of ambivalent and confused mind seem to be the starting process of ego, which contains constant pain, constant misery, suffering. Whether there is achievement of some pleasurable situations maybe you've made, but still fundamentally existence of one's basic individuality contains that basic misery, which goes on constantly. Which brings also all sorts of conscious mental effort, such as like grasping and holding on to, and intellectual speculations, and all sorts of other things tend to develop. And that seem to be pattern of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=490.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having experienced that rejection, then one also trying to feel the ground and area around you, which is sort of feeling. And from that feeling one tend to develop an impulse, is trying to validify the feeling in the terms of efficient mechanistic action. That trying to develop kind of complicated bureaucracy of process of ego, grasping. And then one develops also a certain state of gathering all collections of different situations of thoughts of all types -- intellectual ones normally is usually, or domestic ones -- trying to gather thoughts of all type, which contains religious-type thoughts or mundane-type thoughts, domestic-type thoughts, political-type or philosophical-type. Tend to gather all kind of thought-- kinds of thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=538.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all this being busy tend to help, because one doesn't have to dwell on the sadness of its basic being at all. And these occupations are enormously helpful and comforting. That's why there's a constant tendency to running one after the other, rather than letting be. And of course then there's the sort of consciousness or sense perceptions also begin to develop, along with a certain amount of intellectual, again, thought process or sensitivity in a different style of intensity, in terms of your way of relating the projection outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=608.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it seems, fundamentally, that this neurotic aspect of mind and this isolation and sadness doesn't go on constantly. It's sort of subconscious of subconscious, which there’s a sadness and dissatisfaction and pain goes on. But that doesn't continue constantly. There are occasional gaps -- that one has the feeling of opening back to the basic space, which happens quite frequently. But at the same time there's also this tendency to try to conceal that possibility and cover it over by occupation of misery, pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=669.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that that kind of basic principle, where the meditation-- application of meditation is the trying to open the aperture of exposure to, so to speak, to the basic space, in spite of the misery and pain and sense of occupation. Which is often extremely difficult to begin with, so one tend-- there is a certain development of techniques for that. To simplify the process of meditation, just simple enough that there is no further playing with oneself, doesn't apply anymore at all. That one is simply working with one's technique and just going along with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=717.0,763.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But before we get into this meditation aspect of the whole thing, I think it seem to be extremely important to know that basic neurotic aspect of mind in which that there could be no other spiritual way at all, unless person has developed fundamental, basic sanity and dealing with neurosis of mind. There would be no other spiritual way at all, because spiritual path had to be based on something which has accurate vision, accurate perception. And if one's mind is already disturbed, there is no accuracy or there is no sense of direction or sense of perspective view at all. So therefore, no matter that what tradition that we are stud-- going to study, or what practice that we are going to put into effort, but somehow this seem to be one of the most essential and important basic ground, to have this very solid foundation of dealing with one's neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=763.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems that the meditation practice that we are discuss-- we are going to discuss in this seminar in the next few days is something very universal or something very basic. That it's like talking about the root of the entire tree and how to plant this tree, rather than talking about the different attributes of the blossom. So it seems that this basic understanding of structure of mind is also important, not only intellectually alone, but also intuitively. That if we really got into it properly and thoroughly we could sense this basic loneliness and basic pain, as well as there's fundamental space, that keeps on occurring in our mind constantly. So it is not only intellectual speculation alone at all, it's something experiential. And it will be good to get into it, it seems, to begin with our discussion on meditation make it becomes more applicable and solid and definite.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussion on it, short one, maybe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=825.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: When you spoke about maintaining your-- that kind of sad feeling, that confusion of floating around--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Louder, please!\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Louder? When you were speaking about that, you know, being the-- the ego being that, just floating around, it’s a bit confused. Can it only find that security in the void through meditation? You know, is meditation what you said opens up the aperture and lets that being realize that there is an opening, that can take a step outside of where it is now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be that's the sort of basic principle of meditation. You see, meditation is not imposed on you, but it's trying to realize what you were, what you are, your basic nature. It's sort of going back to your ancestor sort of thing, rather than put new things on it. That's the whole idea of the-- when realization of your background is completely achieved, then there is no possibilities of regressing or stepping back. It's, I mean, such a classic mistake to made, that we have made. And once you have realize that very profound mistake has been realized as it is, then that mistake cannot occurred again at all. Cosmic mistake. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=912.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How do you relate meditation to introspection, thinking about one's self, one's mistakes, or one's thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One's thought.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think probably we'll get into that in next discussion, next talk, so probably I would like to go through very thoroughly and in great detail. Probably we should do it and we have a discussion on it in the next talk or so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1016.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: This sadness that you're speaking of, would it be like what the Christian mystics call the darkness of the night? That they reach a certain state and then they have this-- a very high state, and then they have a very dark state that they can't seem to escape?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose -- you see there is a basic kind of spiritual teachings which have various things in common, is the sort of fundamental, original mistake. That we just had the opportunity or chance to free ourselves, in fact before the notion of freedom comes about at all. We could skip whole thing over, at the beginning, even before the question of awake or confused arises. Or we had the opportunity of confusing us, or going through the confusion rather. There are two possibilities there always. But that mistake seem to be the dualistic mistake, isolation, breaking away from the origin. And therefore it has nothing to do with, in a sense, virtue or sin as such at all. It's just a kind of act of panic which brought things about. So in order to have that panic, there is also intelligence working, functioning. So fundamentally, that mankind is not condemned at all, because mistakes happen in the realm of intelligence at the same time.[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1063.0,1216.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, could you clarify what you said about bravery yesterday in the talk? I believe you said that the type of bravery involved, even with respect to surrendering ego, that the ego itself, that that bravery-- the ego itself wouldn't be the one that was being brave. And that this bravery had to be from some innate intelligence which the ego is essentially blocking by, so to speak, occupying the territory. Is this a correct understanding of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the bravery, when we talk about it, it's-- I suppose you could say, it's fundamentally… in a sense seeing some kind of expression of the basic positivity beyond ego's level. That you have-- you may not have seen it, but you have a sense of it somehow. because you have a sense of a basic healthy state, a basic open space is there, apart from the frivolousness of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would this mean that efforts made intentionally by ego or \"I\" to attempt to intentionally face, let's say, some fear or some embarrassment... In other words, you spoke yesterday of surrendering one's-- that it would involve a surrendering of one's own self-respect so to speak. That if the ego itself were to try to surrender its own self-respect, then this would be frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If it's just simple and a straightforward one, it seems to be okay. But at the same time if it's-- the intention is complicated one, then that could be a double cross from the ego. It depends on how simply you relate to it. In other word, if you have so much-- too much intention, too much high opinions of achievement, then that evaluation could become our imprisonment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1216.0,1398.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems that the type of bravery that ego puts out is a kind of a plodding-type thing where you sort of screw up your courage and try something. And is this what you meant by too intentional, this type of screwing up one's courage in a sort of a nonspontaneous way and attempting to face something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole thing is that in a sense bravery or positive thinking or faith -- in terms of that there is a fundamental trust apart from this isolation, sense of isolation and sense of individual pain that we've been talking about. This bravery or the faith comes from sort of transcending those misery-- that misery, and seeing beyond it. And I would say that this may not be a real experience of bravery, but one could sense there is something more than that just individualistic misery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1398.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Please clarify again the relationship between the neurosis and the space. You've used the word \"space\" several times, and I don't quite get the imagery.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the-- when we talk about space, it's the like no-man's-land, the basic ground, which is open, which contains all sorts of energies of an awakened state of mind. But at that space the question of awake or confusion doesn't apply anymore at all, because such thing never occurred at that realm. It's entirely no-man's-land. And from that, then that's the openness, open space. And the ego's individuality is ego tend to isolate itself from that open space, and it try to make oneself a nest out of open space and isolate oneself from it, and trying to maintain oneself and going through all this process. So in other word, the constituents of ego is also confusion as well as a portion of that space. So possibility is that we could go back and acknowledge that space, and sort of enlarge it or open to it. So then we don't have to formulate any kind of higher spiritual consciousness, but just going back, tuning back to this basic space where we came from.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Why does confusion necessarily come about with the isolation from that space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a self-fascination sort of thing. It's like a spark of an atom breaks away from space and it sort of destroys itself, or recreate itself. It's fascination to itself, to its own existence. And because of that fascination, one find some satisfaction to be individual. At the same time there is a fear of losing that individuality, and whole chain reaction then begin to built up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, this is the common human condition rather than [INAUDIBLE]. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: This is common to every human being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Every human being, yes, right, yes. It's the sort of psychological portrait of evolutionary process of all consciousness, all human being, or any kind of consciousness. That's why the application of meditation is also universal, because there is that common problem is there and application of meditation towards this direction becomes very, I mean, ordinary somehow -- that there is no such thing as meditation doesn't apply to a certain people, or to certain people.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The purpose of meditation is to let that space in, to open up into that space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] I think it's extremely important to know that sort of basic principle before we know-- before we get into anything that what does mean \"higher spirituality\" and what does mean \"ordinary worldly\" and what does mean \"confusion.\" Seem to be extremely important to at least know the direction that we are approaching towards. And that doesn't become purely intellectual one at all. There is a personal feeling about that with everyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1489.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is this isolating process a deliberate thing, with sort of a controlling force behind it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The isolation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah. Or it just happens spontaneously?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it sort of-- it happens in a sense spontaneously, but you can't help not being deliberate. So spontaneously deliberate sort of thing. 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[Laughs] That's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1778.0,1881.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Can we meaningfully ask what is the -- I think in some schools it's called the first cause -- what impels the energy toward the sense of separateness in the first place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's sort of overemphasized energy. Overemphasized energy. Energy becomes heavier, heavier by itself, kind of mechanical. It's one of those very strange things happens. [Laughs] I mean it's the same as the external cosmic world, you know, sun and moon and solar systems have developed. It's exactly the same internally and psychologically. 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That that kind of criteria of your openness can be only seen by relating with other people, relating with the existing world outside, seem to be the landmark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=1955.0,2034.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would the idea of adding to or subtracting from, that would come about after one has already isolated one's space -- is that true? That if you've already pulled into an isolated space, saying that that's the \"I\", then you are in the process of-- after that, you're in the process of either adding to that space what you think you want, or subtracting from it what you don't want. To your-- the basic space cannot be added to or subtracted from.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But the minute you isolate, like say that some of that space is your possession, then the process of thinking that you could add to or subtract from that space would result.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think-- the whole point is-- well it's very simple. That you are consist of space as well as individuality. Otherwise either of them couldn't exist, they couldn't exist at all. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You don't have to do either of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But-- it's that you don't have to do either of them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, so you could emphasis more on-- emphasize more on the individuality or the isolation, or you could make more emphasis on the space. That's the sort of two direction that you can go: build yourself up in terms of ego or open yourself in terms of non-ego. Kind of two directions that you can go to. And in a sense, that a person have to sort of open himself, person himself, towards these gestures. In particular in terms of space, which is more difficult because pull towards nonspace is more powerful. So that's why the such things like surrendering, openness and surrendering, taking refuge, surrendering seems to play a very important part, just to emphasis more on the-- pull towards the non-ego direction. You're willing to let go towards that direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2034.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is the goal a sort of complete surrender of ego into the space, or is it rather a kind of balance between the individuality and the space? I mean is there not a danger in a complete going into the open space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there is any danger at all. [Laughter] I mean it is possible that such idea could occurred in one's mind: \"Am I going too far? And am I really letting go completely?\" But there is no danger at all. Because if you let go completely towards the open space, then open space also contains energy of its own.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Contains?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Energy of its own. I mean, it contains also sort of warmth and sharpness and active quality, and all these qualities contains within itself. So completely non-ego person could function, in fact, much better than the ego-inclined one, because you are not limited, you have limitless resources.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2259.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But if we surrender to this open space, that's the same thing that made the first mistake, that got us into this predicament.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but then you'd have undid the mistake already, and you have a sense of complete understanding. So it is not possible that you would make the same mistake at all, because you aren't naive anymore. In other word, that you have create the-- in a sense, you realize that you have create this mistake. It's like that you've been tricked off by somebody, cheated by somebody, but you can't be cheat again, you cannot be cheat again. Because once you cheat, then you have realize, and that message is very clear, in fact. In fact that the pain and the effort that you put into it makes more important, that you realize that you won't make mistakes again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2331.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: At the point where letting go becomes a possibility, is there any way to overcome the feeling that this letting go is a tremendously dangerous thing to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Overcome the idea of? Well, if you let go and then if you panic, that's very dangerous. But if you let go and be there, and then it returns, I suppose-- one have to give up a sense of security of some kind to begin with. That much kind of sacrifice is necessary, which had to be-- had to come from tremendous energy and diligence, patience, everything. I mean, there is no magic how to step out of it, of the fascination to holding on to.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But it seems very paradoxical that at that point one realizes the idiocy of clinging to ego, because it is the cause of all suffering. But still one clings, because if he feels the danger of letting go is to-- could just lose everything, there would be nothing left.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah. I mean that's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact \"you\" cannot attain enlightenment at all. \"You\" have to go. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2419.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In meditation I had an experience that I was nothing. But *who* I was was the one that was experiencing the nothing. Now is this nothing the same as the space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In a meditation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --I experienced that *what* I was--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --was nothing. But that *who* I was was the one that was experiencing the nothing. Is that-- is that nothing the same as the space that you're talking about? Or what is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, fundamentally you don't really experience nothingness, but you are-- you become part of it. In that sense you could say \"experience,\" but it's not experience in the sense of experiencing a taste of honey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you experience the taste of honey because of the very reason that honey and you are different, separate, that's why you experience it. But in this case, it's like tasting your own tongue, that you are completely one with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah well, the experience that I was nothing didn't come until after the meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then I realized that there was nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well it could be-- I mean there's possibilities that afterthought of having gone through that, then you come out of it, then you reflect back. You realize you were there, you were being in the nothing, although you were experiencing nothing. That could happen, yeah. It's kind of afterthought which--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is that the same as the space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's the same as the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well when you get to there, then what's the next step? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well you haven't got there yet. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well I mean, you know like, what do you do when you-- to keep that, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You keep-- well, you have to develop tremendous confidence that you don't have to keep it, at all. It's there, constantly. And that seems to be next step. And then all sorts of other confident-- all sorts of other convictions and confidence begin to arise from that. That you don't have to regard yourself as a delicate person anymore at all. That you can relate with the things directly and straightforwardly, which becomes up to the level of compassion, skillful means, and so on. I mean that's really depends on your relating with the daily life situation and the people and so on. The expressions of nothingness and its dynamic quality is the-- how you relate with the people, how you relate with the world, which is very, very obvious and there is no mistake at all about it. It's quite a lengthy thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2548.0,2727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93878/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Perhaps we should stop there. And what's the program -- discussion, tea?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Tea time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tea time, I think tea time. [Laughter] Yes, have a good tea. Continue with our interviews, I think. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: The list has changed a little today. Whoever's on the list, we need to get together for a couple of minutes just to sort out [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193#t=2727.0,2752.65106"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93879","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711023VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170311/file/309193/transcript/93879/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\npublic seminar 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