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Topics included how the staff's meditation practice affects overall vision and day-to-day workings of Naropa. Basis of Naropa Institute as introducing \"gentleness, confidence, and wakefulness to students and ourselves.\" Trungpa Rinpoche discusses introducing a more scholarly approach at Naropa, as well as \"a human educational system\" based on Shambhala principles. He sees Naropa's expansion as far-reaching, given Naropa's accessibility to the non-Buddhist world in the larger culture. In Q\u0026amp;A, Trungpa Rinpoche discusses ways of presenting the path and meditation in nonsectarian terms, saying no need to mention Buddhism but just \"development of the human being.\" Sitting practice is \"knowing yourself, looking at yourself.\" Asked to comment on artists at Naropa, says more about sense of journey rather than becoming professionals.  Asked about Naropa's relationship to Boulder, he acknowledges complexity of issue, and says Naropa may first have to become known to rest of the country, then Boulder will come around. Expresses surprise that Naropa was by then known in Europe and Asia, including as far away as Japan."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 29 2021 to Nov 16 2021 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1978"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A meeting of Chogyam Trungpa with administration and faculty of Naropa Institute in 1978.  Topics included how the staff's meditation practice affects overall vision and day-to-day workings of Naropa. Basis of Naropa Institute as introducing \"gentleness, confidence, and wakefulness to students and ourselves.\" Trungpa Rinpoche discusses introducing a more scholarly approach at Naropa, as well as \"a human educational system\" based on Shambhala principles. He sees Naropa's expansion as far-reaching, given Naropa's accessibility to the non-Buddhist world in the larger culture. In Q\u0026amp;A, Trungpa Rinpoche discusses ways of presenting the path and meditation in nonsectarian terms, saying no need to mention Buddhism but just \"development of the human being.\" Sitting practice is \"knowing yourself, looking at yourself.\" Asked to comment on artists at Naropa, says more about sense of journey rather than becoming professionals.  Asked about Naropa's relationship to Boulder, he acknowledges complexity of issue, and says Naropa may first have to become known to rest of the country, then Boulder will come around. Expresses surprise that Naropa was by then known in Europe and Asia, including as far away as Japan."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute Meeting with Staff, held at the Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado on January 20th, 1978. This is a CTI custom remaster made June 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose we should find out what we're doing, all this. And what's the purpose of it. And it seems that Naropa Institute has interesting perspective, in terms of we are trying to organize nonsectarian educational establishment. But at the same time, everybody's being practitioners, and Buddhists, largely, could present us some difficulties, or confusions. And one of the difficulties might be is, how we co-exist with the Vajradhatu. And it has been said in the past that Naropa Institute felt like a younger brother situation. But I think the purpose of my meeting with you people here this point is to clarify that situation. That we have to start with one thing at the time, in some sense in our lives. That administrative work that you be doing is based on developing yourselves, and in turn benefiting the Institute. So it should have that kind of a double meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=29.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have met with the faculty the other day-- I mean last week. It felt quite good. But at the same time, if we can't develop a further sense of sanity from the staff, we're still having some kind of problem. And how to go about that is obviously natural one, is for one thing to have a very sound and solid sitting practice of meditation. Which is very important. We have instituted, in Dorje Dzong building, a Wednesday morning sitting practice. And we are going ahead with that, and so hopefully we could extend here as well, that way. Maybe the Loppon might have something to say, details later on, he can explain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=194.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The main point is if we begin to feel that we are on a journey, we are working on ourselves, a hundred percent Buddhist, then we don't feel any conflict, any confusion, in presenting a nonsectarian aspect of Naropa Institute to the public, because we have our own sense of where we belong to, what we are; it's very clear. The boundary is very definite. So, that taking part in Naropa Institute does not mean to say that individuals' sanity have to tone down, in order to match with the rest of the world. So that seem to be the very key point, and the sort of basic sense of morale, is based on sitting practice, nothing but sitting practice. And when there is good sitting practice taking place, then a sense of high spirit is begin to develop. And also a sense of friendliness to yourself, and sense of relaxation, and everything begin to comes out of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=277.0,362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as in regard to the administrative work is concerned, needless to say there should be some kind of a sense of comradeship with each other. And a sympathetic attitude with each other, where that you don't have to beat [sic: around] the bush in order to make a point to somebody. You can just go ahead and tell your friend, your colleague, your boss, your secretary, just direct communication. Would save a lot of unnecessary gossip and entanglement of all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=362.0,410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And another thing is some sense of a priority, in terms of the work that we are doing. Of course such thing is-- had to be generated from the top level, and then had to be assimilated at the bottom level of the administration. But still, every one of you are as important as the top level people, or the directors or whatever. So, if you feel that you are the end of the-- you are the fringe, and you just do what you be told to do, and if you abandon your intelligence, then the work becomes very mechanical, and often it will lead to just purely ignorance sort of level, because you are not personally taking any responsibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=410.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The feeling of Naropa Institute looks like going to take place from now onward, as far as the exterior is concerned, we are trying to tone down the Buddhist propagation, propagation of Buddhism, probably we will tone down that. And we try to develop some more sort of scholarly and more sort of humane-- human educational situation. Which will actually link with the program that we are doing known as Shambhala Training Program, which has a very much closer link with what we're doing with the Naropa Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=475.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basis of the Institute is to try to interject gentleness and confidence and wakefulness to fellow students, and to ourselves. By means of art, by means of poetry, by means of psychology, whatever we have. So that seem to be the definite thing, that we have our own sense of journey, what we're doing and we know what we are, so therefore we shouldn't be too vague about the whole thing. But, while the religious side is toned down as terms of presentation to the public, the administrators have to tidying up their own practice, very much so. Then you have a very interesting balance: that you can afford to be open to people, and also at the same time discipline yourselves. So, those two situations comes hand in hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=525.0,616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also, in terms of gentleness we are talking about, that our relationship, what we are doing in relationship with students and everything, if that could be developed, cultivated extensively, so that when a student comes here, that the administrative people can afford to be friendly to them. That they are not put off by walking into our unfriendly bureaucracy, and sort of big setup. But on the other hand, if you become completely chummy and casual with the students, then there is some another problem comes up, because our approach is not let go and flop, but trying to inspire students' dignity, and tidiness in them as well. So every one of you have a lot of influence to not only the faculty members alone, but every one of you have a lot of influence, a lot of dealings with the students, and you have a lot of influence to students as well. So we have to form some kind of balance between the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=616.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, on the whole I've been very encouraged. But so far what's been happening seems to be is, in the past year we are trying to maintain ourselves, but in this year we have to trying to expand ourselves. That seem to be the very important situation. Whereas the Vajradhatu situation is concerned, I'm trying to work on the situation where we can completely consolidate at this point, not so much work on expansion. And consolidating people's practice and consolidating financial situations and everything. For instance, it seems that Naropa Institute is concerned, that consolidation somehow doesn't exist as such particularly. It's always far-reaching situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=706.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as far as the financial situation is concerned, I have a very strong feeling that actually Naropa Institute would have a greater opportunity to develop some kind of wealth. Much more so than that of the Vajradhatu. Its setup and its image and everything has-- it's very much accessible to the world outside, world beyond the Buddhist world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=778.0,814.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, on the whole a sense of joy when you work, a sense of delight, which comes from practice meditation, would help all of us. And this particular meeting is the part of the work that I been trying to do since I got back, is to sort of study and trying to feel, and this is part of my homework so to speak. And I would like to very much work with all of you, and maybe next point will be I'll be looking into the different sections of the administration and trying to work with them as well, so we could discuss in great detail what need to be done and what need to be expanded, what need to be accomplished.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=814.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I think basically that's it. And the Wednesday?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=882.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DORJE LOPPON LODRO DORJE: Wednesday next. Well I think as we discussed at the departmental meeting, we decided that [INAUDIBLE WORDS] the Naropa and Vajradhatu staff would sit together. And so sitting will begin nine o'clock sharp as usual as nyinthuns do nowadays. And basically we'll sit until twelve on [INAUDIBLE] day. Both the Dorje Dzong and [INAUDIBLE] will gather here beginning at twelve, twelve noon. And I think that will be very helpful both in terms of a sense of communication among ourselves and [INAUDIBLE] administrative and busy-ness level, but also on a level of practice. And also very helpful in terms of regarding work as practice itself, and some sense of meditation in action quality to what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=890.0,953.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome to say anything if you want.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I have a question in terms of the presentation that we do to the outside world, which is if we're talking about not propagating-- not talking about Buddhism, how do we talk about path or meditation, or awake in other ways?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see everybody -- mostly everybody, in this country at least, at large, have some sense of something's happening to them. Like the popular American expression, \"How you doing?\" Which means that you are have something to do, and \"how's it going?\" You know, it's that kind of natural thing. And everybody has some sense of they trying to do better, and trying to achieve something, all the time. And we don't have to say that there is a particular way, which is known as Buddhism, but just development of human being, that level. Could be very simple. And sitting practice we do is nothing to do with worship. Anything just, you know, cooling yourself down, and knowing yourself, looking at yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So it's okay to talk about sitting practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. If you're trying to hide that then the whole thing becomes a bit funny. You know, there's something else going on there. And the sitting practice could be presented very frankly, you know, just \"we practice sitting down. It's a Buddhist tradition maybe but it's not becoming a Buddhist particularly, just developing oneself.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=953.0,1069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: How would you talk about \"awake\", in non-secular meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, well it's-- I think everybody has confusion, in a sense of lost. And awake is opposite of being lost, and confused. Isn't it? [Laughs; laughter] It's very simple; we don't have to say it's enlightenment particularly, you know, but there is possibilities of just simply being awake. You know, not becoming saint or anything like that, but just a decent person. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that's kind of a point I'm trying to make, is if we practice ourselves, and we have some glimpse of what it's all about, you know, then we can just simply say that without using too much of our particular lingo. Just to speak very straight, you know. I think people will understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1069.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, in talking about this style of presenting meditation, we've had a shrine here since I've been here. And I know there had been some talk. Well today we have a movie screen. [Laughs] Will there be some talk, about not having one anymore, having a [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seems to be okay as well. Because when we present Shambhala Training we don't have any shrine -- we have, you know, banners and symbols, he have here, same thing. But I don't see any particular problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Either way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably, be without it. The interesting point-- [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] Well, one of the interesting point is now that the Vajradhatu community is becoming not only just spiritual but more religious, as they begin to practice vajrayana and that kind of thing. So in order to just distinguish different presentation, and just sort of basic hinayana level, you know, simplicity, and that kind of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sounds good.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1156.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In terms of our arts programs, do you feel like what we're doing in the way we present it is saying everybody can be an artist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That everybody has the possibilities of being an artist. You don't have to be born into-- be a genius of some kind, of some kind. Is the ground of starting on our arts program is that everybody has the possibility to be that? Or are we actually-- it seems to me that there's some confusion about that in the different programs, and I wanted to know what you think about those.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose that we are talking about developing some kind of awareness, and sensitivity, to how to relate with the world. And from that point of view, everybody has the opportunity; they're-- everybody-- they all are some-- in some sense or other some sort of artist. But then, the matter of interest, to particular expression of art, that sort of is manifestation of themselves. So you have two situations: you have the basic possibility for everybody, but then what kind of expressions you would like to express, you know, like you might be hungry, but then you might prefer to eat a certain particular kind of food. What you desire, you know, what kind of connections you have. So it's sort of twofold, in some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But do you think that the programs that-- the way that you publicly talk about the programs that we're doing, mean that people, if they expect to work hard and come here they can actually-- that we *could* be presenting them to say that they could develop into being good artists?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. I think so. It's a question of interest. Well that's-- that has also a sense of journey as well. Rather than, you know, become professional, on a particular thing. Want to write another article? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1269.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that a question of interest about what motivation that we should be working into as well?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well, you know, then after that there's more demand on people of course; they have to develop patience as well. But, interest, of just very simple, innocent interest has a lot of things behind it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: That's like a starting point, but not necessarily something that maintains what we do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends on whether you're able to click into it intuitively, as well as whether you have the patience to stick with it. But I think if there's enough exertion, you know, forbearance, then it'll work. And usually at the beginning, when we try to learn anything, we feel terribly stupid at the beginning, you know, you feel you have gone *worse*. But then you sort of flip over a little bit, if you stay with it, and then you begin to evolve, and you begin to be surprising to yourself. So that how it happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1419.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You mentioned that the staff ought to be a little more friendly toward the students, and I agree with that, and I think it ought to be expanding so that Naropa as a whole is a lot more student-oriented. Because I think there's a feeling that the students are kind of here to help the *staff* along, instead of the other way around.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And I think Naropa's enrollment is down, actually this winter quarter from last winter quarter, and that says something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And I think there just has to be a drive to get our students to relate to [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. Well I think particularly in the coming summer, which will be very busy, but this particular period is ideal time for us to sort of organize ourselves, psychologically, prepare for the summer. And if we can afford to be slightly more open and friendly, and I'm sure it'll have-- make a world of differences. Absolutely. And there might be a student recruiting department, but that's not the only thing alone, because everybody has to do it. All of us has to do it. And then there's no conflict. Whereas if somebody is very friendly because of their department, the rest of it is entirely different, not as successful. There's some kind of schizophreniac, you know. And you know, a lot of cases we don't mean it, because we are so busy ourselves. And that's the-- one-- some kind of problem. That we have to learn to cheer ourselves up all the time. When that happens you provide a little bit of space. If somebody pass by you begin to notice that person, rather than you are completely preoccupied with your next minute. You know, it's very much of a-- it's hard work at the beginning for some people, because we prefer to ride our own speed rather than sidetracked by something else, and some extra demand, on somebody else's part. But if you are able to stick with that and push a little bit, and maybe it's hard. But then some point we begin to develop very genuine friendliness, to ourselves and to the students as well at the same time. So then recruit more students, and then we get more money. [Laughter; laughs] Then you get paid more too. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1510.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: One issue that comes up a lot in relating to the students and with people in the Boulder community or, you know, other cities that we might be relating with, is when someone looks at how Naropa Institute is organized, how Nalanda is organized, in comparison to Vajradhatu, the thing is you have a lot of the same people at the top, the same Board of Directors. And I personally kind of have a sense of why it's that way, but I have an awful hard time trying to explain it to someone else. Do you have any thoughts about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think you have to use your intelligence. And you are quite right, that it's people wearing different hats -- you know, Naropa hat and Vajradhatu hat. [Laughter] But as far as organization is concerned, that there is, so to speak \"church and state.\" There is the Buddhist side of it, and also there is the educational side of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The Buddhist and the educational side of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well educational side of it is slightly different than the Buddhist side of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1672.0,1754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: But what's \"it\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It? [Laughter] [Laughing] Of Naropa Institute. [Laughs] Well, it's a question of... that we have taken on an extra interest, beyond being Buddhist. We decide to expand our dedication to the rest of the world. And trying to put some energy into the North American educational system. Which might have religious motives in some sense; you know, like bodhisattva approach, and trying to be kind to somebody else. But on the other hand, it's quite genuine, and quite simple and straightforward. What would you say Jeremy?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Yes. It is simple, and well that's what [INAUDIBLE] what you said, when we practice so that there's-- that there isn't that doubt. You don't have that doubt yourself, the conflict in yourself, it's just, \"Well I am Buddhist and I'm fine. Where do I stand in relation to Buddhism?\" There are all those questions, so that they kind of become infectious, and you pick up on. If you have some sense of your own practice and sanity, then you don't have to express it in Buddhist language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1754.0,1872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think people find it very much easier, if they practice. They find it much easier to actually *separate*, from the Buddhist side of it into the secular side of it. It's some kind of strange logic, but actually works that way. When we begin to feel that we have our own journey taking place, then it becomes much real to ourselves, and then we can, in turn we can say that thing to others too.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhen people ask questions, sometimes it begin to confuse you. And the problem with that is if you are trying to answer the question, then you are in the problem. Instead of purely answering the question, if you can just make a statement, of the way things are. You don't have to come up with a good one, all the time. If it's a genuine one, it's better than being good. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1872.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you were mentioning expansion, in the last couple of years we've been running very fast to stay where we are. And the minute expansion comes up, there's this image of speed comes into my mind. And I'm particularly interested in-- one of the main ways we dealt with our-- with problems [INAUDIBLE] in the past is experimenting, you know, administratively. And we still are experimenting, and we still don't really have enough experience to be able to make choices, without expanding. So, we've gotten kind of conservative about that, and we want to look over all the options before we make choices. I mean before we experiment. And it's kind of a painful position, you know, being afraid of making a choice. And it seems, you know, the idea of expansion in the future suddenly cancels the [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=1955.0,2024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, when we talk about expansion we are not talking about putting on another wing, you know, [laughter] manufacturing something new, particularly. But some idea of opening our mind. That if we're going to expand in certain directions, the first expansion takes place within our organization. And we think that way, and make ourselves comfortable with that particular concept of expansion. So we begin to feel we can take care of that situation, we can actually-- we are up to it. Which is first expansion is expanding within ourselves. We have plans, we have projections, plans, everything is ready, ready to go. Not we just jump into expansion, into deep water, but we prepare ourselves, warm up ourselves. That's first expansion. And then from there, we have no problem in actually expanding once we are in that stage already. And that will, in fact some point it will cut down lot of speed; you'd be surprised. And things will be much more efficient. And even some point, I may not be-- we may not have to experiment, particularly. Because we begin to feel certain particular situations taking place; certain particular rhythms happening. So we can actually tune into that kind of energy, financially and man-power, and in terms of planning and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2024.0,2137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when we talk about expansion we are talking about doing hundred percent expansion, that way. So that, that we don't just attach some extra things on Naropa Institute, and then trying to meet that demand, all the time. That's sort of more frantic approach, rather than, you know, fully planned expansion approach -- which *has* been happening in the past, in order to survive, in order to maintain ourselves. But I think this point Naropa Institute is solid enough, in spite of the hassles and the problems that we face, that we can sit and study and project, prepare, and then expand. So, it's like turning on the ignition, warming up your car, putting in the gear, and finally driving it, you know. [Laughs] I think we can do that; we up to, you know, that.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think in the case of Vajradhatu if you try and expand too fast, we probably end up in some-- all sorts of risk, of all kinds. Whereas Naropa Institute is concerned, I don't think there's any problem like that at all. It's a natural, with Naropa Institute, to expand. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2137.0,2230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems at this point that the faculty and the staff are somewhat separate groups. They have their own concerns, and almost their own world. And I'm wondering if you think that's natural, or if there may be some problem there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you stay apart I think there could be a problem, because the-- as it happens with all the other universities, that the faculty can join the administration, and work with it. Or can just could jump into the bandwagon of the students, and trying to create a revolution. [Laughs] So that's not very new; that's been old situation. Whereas I think in our case, we have different opportunities. So we should definitely try to build a bridge you know, the gap. And the-- as long as the faculty members are able to see that kind of work that we're putting in; as long as they can actually see it, actually can take part in it, and then there's no problem. And we don't seem to have any faculties with a political, metaphysical disagreement particularly. If we did [laughing] we don't invite them anyway, so. [Laughs] And the people are very soft, and, you know, they feel -- a lot of faculties I met in the past year before, felt very privileged to work in Naropa Institute; they feel good about it, so we can always take advantage of that, absolutely important. So not create any split situation, unnecessary kind of problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2230.0,2353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: It seems like our working situation here is very unique in a certain way, because as administrators we're catching pressure from all sides and feedback all the time. And if you get off a little bit you get feedback right away. And in a way faculty members don't have that situation, because they're more on their own, and they spend a lot of time by themselves preparing and then teaching. And I wondered what you think it would be good to draw them more into *our* world, our administrative world.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it would be very helpful. You see the problem is that it has been known that if there is such university can be organized without the administration, that that has been a people's desire; without bureaucracy. And the whole attitude to administration has been extremely negative in that sense. And \"we do it ourselves in a certain extent, we regard as just purely job. And if you don't regard it as a part of our livelihood, then there's a big problem.\" And in our case, administrative job is working on ourselves, and also expanding ourselves. And of course if we begin to expect there be a hundred percent efficiency, a hundred percent professionalism in our administration, then we probably will think we solved our problems. But in fact we created more problems if that happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe reason why we can actually survive, and we can be friendly with each other, there's some comradeship with each other, is because we feel that we are still groping, in some sense; we are still learning and unlearning all the time. And that helps us a lot. And also -- this is a strange thing to say -- but also another thing is we don't have too much money. That helps us too, in some sense; we have to be real and we have to struggle. Whereas if we are completely rich, then we could just throw things around and just make in our convenience, and we could abuse the whole situation, and in turn we become stupid. So, what we are is in a good situation from that point of view. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2353.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Will the Institute become more scholarly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it-- you see there is a-- seem to be two way of educating. One is kind of psychologically-oriented, a human potential movement kind of approach. And then there is the conservative people of course, on the other hand, who just purely deals with the facts and figures. And just books, and very conservative, and often right wing kind of approach. In our case, we have the choice of both in some sense. But on the other hand, if we trying to become a-- present knowledge to a student, in the sense of trying to convince them, with all sorts of logic, all sorts of human potential ideas, then there is a tendency to become-- there is more room for the teachers to fake themselves, and more room for the student to fake themselves as well. So in order to save that particular problem, we don't have to go rightist particularly, or the conservative necessarily, but some kind of understanding of facts and figures, and learn to think intellectually, in the best way.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat people often have resistance to learning things. They prefer to be entertained, and in turn you learn. It's like \"creative play\", you know. That the latest techniques developed for the childrens to do that as well. So they been sort of conned into playing, and in turn hopefully they will learn something. And they completely trying to avoid any kind of discipline at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, scholarly mean this case, in our case, is make people learn languages, you know, briefly, as they have to study Buddhism they have to learn Sanskrit and Tibetan, possibly Pali, or Japanese, Chinese. Trying to go back to some kind of orthodox way of presenting the situation. So things don't become just prepared on the spot, and in turn you begin to enjoy. And I think that's what I mean \"scholarly\", the sense that people have to learn how to bear the pain of learning. What would you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2500.0,2683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Well the problem I see in the past is that during the Winter Spring and Fall sessions there is more of a tendency to settle down, and people have time to study.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Time to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Time to study.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: To learn the facts and figures. But come summer, the books seem to be the last thing anybody wants to look at because there's so much else going on. So the human potential movement takes over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2683.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well actually we might be able to do something for that. If we can correct situations, you know, some way, very subtly. Of course that doesn't mean to say that we don't have various events taking place. But still, there is a feeling of kind of almost like you are in a monastery, that such feelings does exist in a place like Cambridge and Oxford in England. You know, you have all sorts of things to do: students have all sorts of programs, clubs, and entertainments, and teach-ins of all kinds of things taking place. But still, there is a feeling of that you are in a-- you are entered into a realm of discipline, and you feel that you are a part of that, you know, situation. Rather than, you know, the popular idea of a campus is sort of a \"free place.\" You know, you can blow the bubbles [laughter], and you can do all sorts of things. You know, it's \"when you're on the campus it's a free place,\" you know, it's-- that's a-- it's almost-- we're returning to preparatory school, you know, kindergarten level. There is slides and there is wheels and all sorts of things you can-- you know, it sort of cheapens the whole idea of an institute, and some kind of dignity. We can work on that. And I think it's can be done. So far the preparations we have done already, you know, with everybody else, with all of us.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, there is some idea of somewhat sacredness; that you are-- once you are registered at Naropa Institute, that you are entering into a different kind of discipline which has something quite sacred, and we believe ourselves. And, you know, there is a something more than just play. That can be done. You think so, Jeremy? [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2704.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, in terms of expansion, I think a lot of us are caught in a conflict between, on the one hand feeling that Naropa Institute has immense possibilities of expansion, as it gets-- almost like an explosion's about to happen, or great growth is possible very soon. On the other hand, that the intensity of our financial problems tends to be read as a message to consolidate and strengthen, or clarify the activity we're undertaking. And what would the difference be between a kind of sort of an unreal visionary, as opposed to the notion of pragmatic vision of expansion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I think that actually you'll be surprised, you'll find that they're both the same thing -- in some sense, you know. When we trying to consolidate, we are trying to consolidate because we have to recruit more students, in order to consolidate. In order to consolidate we have to polish up our facilities, so that students can be accommodated. And all of those consolidations we do is part of expansion. I mean, generally speaking, that's the kind of case. And if we begin to cut back, deliberately, one of our main branches, that would be deadly. I wouldn't do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the-- you see, way it works, is consolidation is-- means expansion, automatically. That Naropa Institute had to reach wider world than we have so far, which will enable us to be steady. And we have to also strengthen our programs, which is automatically expansion in some sense. So, it might be helpful psychologically: we might say that \"now we are consolidating, and now we are expanding.\" But actually what we're doing is expanding all the time as Naropa Institute. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=2850.0,3018.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I was wondering if the reason for the-- less emphasis on Buddhism had anything to do with the accreditation of the school?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I should think so yes, definitely. And also it has something to do with a sort of gentle beckoning, you know, people, students. That they don't feel that they are going to study with a bunch of religious fanatics. You know. [Laughs; laughter] They are studying with somewhat reasonable people, you know. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3018.0,3069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Would part of the consolidation and expansion be working with the Boulder community more and the Denver community more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know. That we have to look into -- that's quite a technical one. Naropa Institute is actually much more well-known beyond this area, actually. And somebody went to Japan -- [to someone in audience] you went to Japan and said that they heard Naropa Institute in Japan. And somewhere else -- Indonesia, where?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Japan and Bangkok and Jakarta, Indonesia. They all heard of Naropa Institute.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And also, you know, for instance my wife had difficulty with getting a green card back she lost. And she goes to the American Consulate, Embassy in Vienna, and she explained who she is, and the ambassador said, \"Of course, I read about Naropa Institute, you know. [Laughter] I know who you are.\" [Laughs; laughter] And she probably had to wait for another six weeks to get her green card, but she was granted on the spot, because of Naropa Institute. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, maybe it's something like when you have a great man, you know, the-- your immediate relatives don't actually acknowledge that, but maybe something beyond that would be better, I don't know. We have to study on it. But we didn't do much of recruiting or anything like that in the immediate neighborhood particularly, have we? We were talking about putting billboard in the-- [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nI think the interesting thing is that maybe if we could get some feedbacks from greater, sort of, rest of the country. And then the people around here begin to appreciate that, and then they might be turning to us. Quite possibly, the local people will be the *last* people. And unless they been threatened by like how-- our talent and our abilities, like C.U. Anything like that. But their reactions questionable this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3069.0,3233.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I think about the problem a lot of people have with expansion, is that they see that as a kind of a diffuse attitude toward the world; it's spreading ourselves thin. And I think it's really inspiring that we've been heard of in Japan and Vienna, but how many contributions have we had from Japan and Vienna, how many students?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we haven't tapped them yet. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well, I mean, I think having spent a large part of my life in Denver, I know that there's actually a lot going on in Denver, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Maybe I don't see [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I quite agree. Absolutely, I quite agree with you. But there is a different way of building up of some kind of credentials; you know, all sorts of ways you can do that. Probably people in Boulder don't come to us. Maybe the outsiders, the non-Buddhist world, don't come to us because they might have heard us, our reputation in paying bills or anything like that, you know. [Laughter; laughs] Such situation could exist. It's a sort of \"family situation\" there. That you don't want to go into next door neighbor and study with them. Whereas if you can go and take a journey, to some exotic place you prefer to do that. You see that kind of interesting psychology. And that's particularly very American one. The Americans living out of suitcase. And they move out anywhere. But they don't want to stay in their own home ground particularly. You know, that's a-- they have bad memories about the whole thing. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3233.0,3355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16: I think if Naropa paid its bills, then [INAUDIBLE] in that sense. And there would be, you know, a little more hometown inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be. I think more we try to make known ourselves to others, there will be greater response to what we are doing. There is something is happening with our students even. That they becoming different kind of students, and have a different outlook, and a different kind of spirit. So, as long as if we could jazz up the administration, and build further spirit, and some sort of joy within ourselves, I think we'll do great job. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[To someone, aside] Way things not happen yet? I suppose not. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3355.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT17: To continue this particular training, is that-- do you think we should actually emphasize recruitment, and funding sources or donors, etcetera, outside of Colorado or outside of where we're situated, rather than putting more emphasis on trying to get to know people, and permeated with the community around us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't do that either. You know, I would try and do both, you know. But expectations, as I said, probably, in my way of thinking, you might get more response from elsewhere. But still we shouldn't give up this area. And also we have to have dealings with government officials, and our existence and credentials, things around here. And those things are somewhat all right this point. So, we should do both. But you shouldn't be disappointed if you don't get response locally. That's what I'm saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT17: There seems to be quite a bit of enthusiasm locally actually, but I don't think it's going to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT17: But, from my experience and to people who are very interested in Naropa Institute, but feel that they've been closed out of the goings on; it's been kind of a \"secret organization\", that the town people are not involved in particularly, or invited to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT17: --what was happening [INAUDIBLE]. The summer people did fly in from different parts and there was a lot happening, and it kind of closed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT17: --and no one knew what was happening. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Well, we should look into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3451.0,3554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT18: There's been a considerable question from the faculty in preparing for their courses--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In considering what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT18: In preparing their courses, and also from the students, into trying to develop a more scholarly approach, and having basic kind of research materials here. And in view of the budgetary problems that we have...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In view of the?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Budgetary problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT18: I thought [INAUDIBLE] that also coming from Debbie that it would take to build up a scholarly research library for students and faculty. I was wondering what your feeling was into how much commitment we should put into this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know. We have to-- details like that we have to [laughing] look into the executive committee or [laughing] whatever we have. And I've been trying to build a library for some time. And there is a very good opportunity for us to get some kind of grant to get a good library. I was quite shocked when I visited the -- what they call in Los Angeles, the-- Thich Thien-An's place? International Buddhist...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT19: College for Oriental Studies [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT19: University of Oriental Studies?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no it's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT20: Thich Thien-An.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thich Thien-An's, yeah. International Buddhist?\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDENT20: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, whatever [laughs; laughter]. And the general sense of organization, and the sense of establishment is not so good, but has a very good library. Extremely good library. [Laughter] And I think that's very important somehow; we should look into that kind of thing. And some donors would like that, because books are books, you know, nothing can go wrong with it. And their money is put in the very solid situations. And we can also could get very good microfilms of all sorts of things, and... Are we looking into that at all, these days?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: I hope so. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3554.0,3734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well. I think we should jazz up that particular job, definitely. We should have a very good library. Absolutely. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could get a lot of Tibetan texts actually, without any difficulties, now that His Holiness is printing a lot of it. Khyentse Rinpoche is printing a lot of it, and a lot of friends of mine printing a lot of-- reproducing a lot of Tibetan texts, and there will be no problem, as long as we have a space to put them in, you know, there's no problem with that. And we could also get the Japanese library situations. And I was talking to Maezumi Roshi, and he's establishing his version of Naropa Institute, known as... what is it called?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Institute of Transcultural--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Institute of Transcultural Studies, yeah. And he would like to become his Institute is sister to Naropa Institute, even legally connected, or something like that. And he has a lot of connections in getting a good Japanese library, as long as we have someone to read them. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat happened to that person in California, Graham?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] Graham.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] Graham?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We didn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: This year.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he was very keen on helping us in the library situation when I talked to him about two years ago. Very keen on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [To someone in audience] How many pages you can write now? [Laughter; laughs] Ten? [Laughs] Twenty? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3734.0,3905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I understand the practical aspects of calming down--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your voice a little bit?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I understand the practical aspects of calming down the Buddhist stuff at Naropa...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: But when I first came here, I felt like there was a-- which was the summer, I felt this underlying secret, and it seemed deceptive to me, before I found the secret. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is the secret? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well I think, the Buddhist stuff was just-- wasn't talked about, and it just seemed deceptive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPCOHE: Seems what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Deceptive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: It's like a trick or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Like a \"trick.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm. So what would you suggest?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [Laughing] I don't know, you know [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3905.0,3973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think if people don't have enough practice meditation -- which is not particularly deceptive to sit, you know. It could be, but on the other hand, you could get through it. There's nothing more than that. And once people realize essence of the activities what we do in being Buddhist is sitting practice. And then, if you want to find something more than that, there's nothing exist. [Laughs] So, that's it. It sounds very simple, so...\r\n\r\n\r\nI think people had developed-- usually happens in our community at large, the people develop difficulties and resentment, and confusions, starting from because they haven't sat, or they didn't have the energy to put in yourself in sitting practice. And around that then you begin to blame something else, or the situations or-- then if you be asked about Naropa Institute or Buddhism as well, then you have somebody is touching on your sore point. It's very sore. So people have difficulties in relating with that way. So that actually manifests itself, you know. Do you sit?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=3973.0,4094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, I'm wondering if you had any more to say about how we present sitting practice. It's always been a problem with us either being timid about presenting, or pushing it too far.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, what we have to do is in the next -- I'm going to work into this, is I'm going to look through every sections of our educational systems, and relationship with sitting practice. With the Psychology Studies, sitting practice is seem to be okay, and what's the guy's name?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Ed [UNCLEAR: Podvoll?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ed, he was *great*, he was wonderful. His understanding is fantastic, and he's presenting fine; as it is it is, you know, okay. Whereas we have somewhat problems with the Buddhist Studies on the other hand, that trying to put things together, scholarly and yogic tradition of sitting practice together. We have to look into that, how to work properly there. So we could go by step-by-step on each areas, and their particular presentation and relationship with sitting practice. Once we have done and sort this whole things out, I don't think you would have any particular problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd on the whole, if everybody-- if people ask us, as a staff member, as a person, administrator, \"Do you sit or do you practice Buddhism?\" Yes, you do. You know, that's very simple. But then we don't push our trips to people. We don't *have* to. If the particular programs taking place, have its own relationship with sitting practice and sorted out methodically, completely. Then there's no problem. And every-- each sections will have their own answers, in relating with the sitting practice. You see. And then there's no problem, particularly. And arts, you know, and if you have science or history class and have relationship with sitting practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe have to sort all those things out first, you know, make it very clear, very clean. So that we know what we are saying to people. Usually you talk to people who are connected with certain particular sections of education. So once that whole thing sorted out there shouldn't be any problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well we've gone and been influenced by we thought-- by what we thought was the message of Shambhala Training, months ago. We've tended to try to make statements like, \"The important thing is whole-hearted involvement,\" for instance in dance. \"The important thing is that you are a hundred percent involved in dance.\" And we've tended to say \"you don't have to sit, if you're involved in dance a hundred percent.\" You think we're going a bit too far there, or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4094.0,4289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to particularly negate. The-- particularly if you present in a Shambhala Training style of sitting practice, which you've been doing with Naropa Institute students. And people might take Shambhala Training course, and sit with that particular approach. And that might be complementary to what you are doing, because basically Shambhala Training is to develop or discover the meaning of human being, who you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd beyond that I don't think we have to either encourage it or negate; just leave it completely up to them. And we don't make requirements particularly at all, you know, that kind of situation. But maybe we might have to suggest them quite strongly, to take Shambhala Training. Part of our supplementary, you know, whatever you call them; sort of building up a human being, as your human-ness, you know, your particular thing. And just leave it like that, and it's very clean cut. And reason why we negate is because we feel guilty. Which we don't have to introduce that issue at all, because they have no idea [laughing], at the beginning, what it's all about. [Laughs] I think we can do it that way. And then whole thing is very clean cut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4289.0,4394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: I'd like to ask a question which actually follows on a discussion I had with Lodro, about is -- Shambhala comes into it, particularly Shambhala culture -- and that is that we talk about now, when we first started there was a sense of the way we would teach arts had to do with spontaneous-- spontaneity, but disciplined spontaneity. So that the process was what counted. You know, how much did those [INAUDIBLE] a sense of awake in terms of the process of art. But now there's a different sense coming about \"good art\", and Shambhala culture provides some vision of what that could be. And there seems be a huge gap between actually what we're producing here, and what good art might be. And I wonder if you can feel that, and also if that-- if there is some sense of what good art could be, how would we bridge that gap?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4394.0,4454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think we have to encourage people's intelligence, and their own sense of sophistication first. And also obviously, as we usually do, the idea of art connected with all sorts of trips involved; their particular ego building up, or finding a convenient situation for them to get into something that could be secure for them-- security for them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the question is, I think we have to have still wait, or -- somewhat. And the sorting out takes place by the student rather than-- unless the students are completely thick and, you know, no response at all, and completely heavy-handed. We have to leave it up to the rest of the students. And I-- actually that has been happening within the Vajradhatu communities as well. That sometimes people's style begin to change. Not because they be told to change, but they begin to click in what is all about, and they begin to understand themselves. So it becomes obvious, you know, apparent to them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, and from that point of view working with a faculty member would be good, and, you know, with their own sense of sophistication. Whereas if you begin to dictate, by saying, \"This is good art, this is bad art,\" then you run into all sorts of chaotic situations. Which are-- if you're trying to sort out or trying to consolidate the whole thing probably we could, but the end product is not so presentable, and it's just too square.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4454.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's a question of individuals picking up and begin to shed certain preconceptions they had, and begin to refine themselves, on the whole: not only the level of art alone, but their lifestyle and the way they dressed, you know, way they behave, way they communicate with other people. So when there is a general personality transformations taking place, then what discipline they have, art-- such as art, is also become part of that. And that works much better. Then they begin to feel they authored the whole thing themselves, to themselves, which is quite rightly so. And then, somehow, strangely that that person and the other person begin to agree together, so then you have a lot of people agreeing together; they begin to see the same thing happen. You know, then they have a group together, that way. But we have to wait somewhat, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the only thing what *we* can do is, from this point of view, kind of provide environment, and some, you know, key suggestions that I was talking about. Hopefully we could introduce Chinese poetry, and Japanese poetry into-- in the Poetics Program, so that kind of thing. We could introduce that kind of little things like that. But largely I think we have to leave it up to the students to make his or her own journey that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4590.0,4689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Yes, I was wondering how you plan, should Naropa become accredited, that I was wondering how we plan to keep the purity here, as far as the Institute of learning, without compromising and losing sight of the objectives now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we do the same thing. I don't think we will change very much. And getting accreditation is very good and very convenient, but that is nothing to has to do with our integrities at all, none whatsoever. And otherwise we all get bored and, you know, if we have to -- once we reach that goal then we begin to flop. [Laughs] And it will not worth continuing at all. And even if it makes money it's bad money. [Laughs] So, you shouldn't be doubtful about our integrities -- as long as I'm around. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: As long as what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I am around. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4689.0,4763.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Just a-- from what you just said earlier, would it be possible to imagine that a successful education at the Institute, might be someone arriving here with the idea of being a dancer, or poet, and after several years of this actual personality change, giving up that idea, while the whole of that person's life had actually become refined.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Become what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: More refined.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: That, having a larger vision of that person's life--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: That such a person might in fact decide that he was a second rate dancer, or a second rate poet, and simply develop a further refinement of an overall--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: --sense of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Because it seems that there's a great danger of our producing a lot of third-rate artists, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Which would be very sad.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well I thought that actually a long time ago.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4763.0,4845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] [Laughs] And I watched what's happening. And to my surprise actually it didn't work that way, and they are getting something out of it. And some people-- for some people, they realize their original integrity and fascination to their particular poetics or dance or whatever, turn out to be not very valid to them. So they then go into another field, do something else, which they do much better. Which is a rather long journey to learn-- discover, you know, discover that, for them. But still, I don't think they wasted any time. The discovery-- process of discovery is quite worthwhile for them. It provided a path for them, then they realized, you know, it was not their thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that what we have is some people realize that what they have done could be refined, and could be evolved further. And to some people they feel that what they have done, what they gone through is not so good, so they should get into something else. So, I think that kind of slow sorting out of the situation is taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nI thought of that actually a long time ago, that I was actually somewhat panicky about that whole thing; that we are saying \"yes\" to everybody, to their trips, and what we going to, you know, turn out? And they come out of the Naropa Institute credentials and finally there is a completely bad job. You know, [laughs] would be very, very bad. But, that somehow didn't happen, very strangely. [Laughter] So far! So that means, so far so good. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4845.0,4976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well we don't have a great poem written by our students -- yet. [Laughing] One of these days, I hope. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Do you have some kind of special [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in some sense that is the problem, because the poetry is geared to acting out, rather than writing poems, you know, particularly. In like the traditional sense of being a poet, is difficult this point. And... well, I think we can work with that, somehow. And maybe next summer we could make less of a performance, and more of a scholarship, you know, we could talk our friend, poets, how they feel about that. You know, it's a-- it's [laughing] always interesting to have a dealing with the poets. [Laughs; laughter] And one thing they're very good at, they understand you, actually, they do. If you present something very solid thing, they do understand what you're talking about. And I have a great time with them, and I enjoy their company. And we see what we can do. I think your point is very well taken, actually. You are quite right. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=4976.0,5125.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40596/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we should stop there. We should do this again. It's very nice. Please keep smiling. [Laughs; laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577#t=5125.0,5140.76731"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40597","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780120VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76158/file/164577/transcript/40597/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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