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Intelligence is a key topic -- expanded intelligence that leads to an attitude of enlightenment; and critical intelligence to go beyond seeking relationships only for the sake of reward or entertainment. Describes the search for a spiritual teacher, warning against the sickness of getting too caught up in the cultural trappings of foreign teachers. Explains that a teacher should be somebody who can actually communicate with us, who can see things very clearly and teach in a variety of ways -- not only from either a technical or experiential standpoint, but with all possibilities encompassed together.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 01 2020 to Dec 27 2020 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExplores \"enlightened cynicism,\" and how to cross the boundary or bridge from cynicism to devotion. Intelligence is a key topic -- expanded intelligence that leads to an attitude of enlightenment; and critical intelligence to go beyond seeking relationships only for the sake of reward or entertainment. Describes the search for a spiritual teacher, warning against the sickness of getting too caught up in the cultural trappings of foreign teachers. Explains that a teacher should be somebody who can actually communicate with us, who can see things very clearly and teach in a variety of ways -- not only from either a technical or experiential standpoint, but with all possibilities encompassed together.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260128-3797118-z1732r.mpga"]},"duration":1705.76975,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/301/078/original/open-uri20260128-3797118-z1732r.mpga?1769642345","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":1705.76975,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750412VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750412VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Cynicism and Devotion - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Cynicism and Devotion, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number two, April 12th, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following will be the Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This will be the second talk of a seminar entitled Cynicism and Devotion given at Karme Choling in April of 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Today we could discuss the further development in the idea of enlightened cynicism. And one of the interesting point there is question of intelligence, when the intelligence begin to develop and open further and begin to evolve in the enlightened fashion. But that does not necessarily mean person has attained a certain state of enlightenment, particularly, but a state of enlightened attitude. That is to say, no grasping, not defending, but clearly seeing the situation. We are talking, this case, particularly, from the point of view of student alone. But, in talking in terms of the teacher, that comes later, and we could discuss that tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=35.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the question of the idea of intelligence operating, when the intelligence begin to operate, you have critical intelligence. That intelligence would oversee the naivete looking for a parental figure, parental perception of any kind, which brings us into a state of friendship. When we look for friends, there all kinds of way of looking for friends, for that matter, looking for husband or wife. That style we usually choose is that somebody who will give us some sense of a reward, in terms of friend, in terms of lover. And long-lasting contact in dealing with the world, that you could share the pains together. You could share the pleasures together. That you will be faithful to somebody who, in turn, will be faithful to you at the same time. That everything is worked out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=131.0,228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That friendship, in this case, is a very snug one. That you feel that, if you have good friends, that friend should kill your boredom. Whenever you feel bored or depressed or angry, you can always turn to your friends or your lover. That they will understand you and they will sympathize with you, and they will, in turn, cheer you up. And, if you have great ambitions, or if you are that point of view egomaniac, that the friends will praise you, build you up. That you've done great job already, but look at so and so on. Think of such and such idea, possibilities. You could be greater. That friends and the lovers will build you up, expand you greater level, and you could create a sense of home by building mutual trust and mutual interest from that angle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=228.0,315.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All those experience, and all that situation tend to be a very stale one. It does not allow any challenges, any potential doubts of any kind at all. And the whole thing becomes very sedate, in some sense, and a confusing one at the same time. And also possibilities of searching for teacher spiritually maybe has same kind of situation of two levels. The teacher has the capability of transmitting technological of that particular wisdom, spirituality. And also teacher would have the chance to, and the experience to, see beyond your ego and give you some kind of transcendental insight at the same time. And both of them seem to be the also the same category this point. That because that there's no fundamental basic cynicism, which is intelligence, unconditional cynicism hasn't developed. So having not developed that particular aspect, then quite automatic reactions is that we could glorify our relationship to our parents, to our teacher, or our school teacher to our religious teacher, spiritual teacher, teacher of dharma, by saying that, \"If such and such a person has enough linguistic, metaphysical knowledge and understanding, they should know better than I do. So, therefore, even from that point of view, I could learn a great deal.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=315.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, moreover, this particular teacher is utterly human because of such and such ethnic cultural background, that that particular teacher came from and has that particular ethnic qualities of it, and its cuteness of ethnic culture, and its wisdom of it. That there is definitely some enlightenment in it as well. And we go more than that, beyond that level, obviously, that some point the ethnic term, ethnic culture is meaningless to us. When we begin to relate with some native teachers, that you begin to cease to think of them as a particular ethnic interest of study. But you still do think in terms of their ethnic colorfulness and their style, and if they misunderstand you, you regarded that as part of the teaching. If they fail to communicate with you, regard a part of that particular teaching, and if they're being stubborn to you, regard that as also part of your teaching, your learning process taking place constantly, somewhat, of course. But at the same time, that whole issue is questionable. And we are in between two situations of the question of devotion and the question of cynicism still plays very important part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=446.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interest in ethnic kind of culture and its colorfulness and its wisdom can lead us into a extremely silly people, being extraordinarily silly. Dressed up in some oriental hoo-ha [laughter] and speaking pidgin English, pidgin German, or pidgin French, for that matter, and behaving like a religious maniac and giving the vibration of holier-than-thou. That symptom comes from-- this is regarded as actually sickness, rather than phase, particularly. It could be phase, in the sense of its transitory qualities, of course, but, at the same time, there-- like flu is a sickness rather than phase. It's-- it is a kind you attack of some kind of sickness or disease of that [laughing] nature. You are stuck with that particular-- struck with that particular thing. And you behave that way, and you are possessed by this particular spirit, which is psychosomatic problem. And basically hit by a cultural transition, a cultural shock which turned into illness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=554.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, from that situation, that why-- reason why that it is known as illness is because when you are sick, your mind is also confused, your body is also confused at the same time. That you become completely overwhelmed by that kind of fever and running temperature. That your perceptions of visual, audio, and intelligence are completely blocked. So consequently, that we are unable to hear or look or listen and experience any kind of doctrine or teaching that demands of subtleties of any kind at all. So that's why it is called sickness. When you're sick, that you can be only helped by a doctor, and only thing-- best thing you could do is eat medicine and being treated. And you are not allowed to do any kind of work, go out, take jobs of any kind, because you're regarded as unfit. And quite rightly so, that you probably are so sick to cross the street. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=663.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such situation is always-- always apropos to all of us. That kind of sickness is sickness without the clarity of a sense of humor and also a sense of cynicism. Such cynicism could be overcome-- such sickness could be overcome by further application of exercise, behaving in a such special way. That is to say, developing panoramic vision of some kind. That is a cynical attitude, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=745.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And relating with one's teacher is not particularly regarded as schoolmaster or a marriage counselor or psychiatrist or a professor or linguist or a great anthropologist, for that matter. But teacher is regarded as somebody who actually can communicate to you. There's no word for it in ordinary terms. \"Teacher\" is the best word that we've come up. In the traditional term, that word \"master\" is important point. And, when we talk about a master, acharya, master in this case is just a general master in the sense that a person is actually able to see something very clearly and teaches you with all kinds of ways. Not necessarily technically, not necessarily purely experientially alone. But have the-- all the possibilities encompassed all together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=800.0,884.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the master, from that point of view, is not so much that learned person or powerful person, that he, the teacher, mastered *himself* to begin with. He himself freed from all these problems. Problems of indecision and problems of unable to see the qualities of student. But teacher has already mastered world. So you take that particular teacher as your master. And the closest analogy is that of medicine man who cure your psychosomatic sickness as well as physical symptoms, and may give you a terrible herb to-- herbal tea or something like that to take, which is terribly painful, and maybe puts you into the very extreme situations of some kind. But, nevertheless, that person is chief of their particular style and that particular society has respected. And he has respect to the society at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=884.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The crossing from the cynical approach to the devotion, that particular boundary or bridge, whatever we call it is quite a simple one in some sense. If there's enough wakeness [sic] in us, if there's enough sense of fearlessness and a sense of greater power, that we can trust ourselves, our judgment and everything. That is to say, not necessarily trust ourselves from the point of view that we are all good. But we are wicked at the same time, and confused, partially, and paralyzed, in some sense, and we are full of all kinds of samsaric goodies at the same time. But, nevertheless, we are actually riped [sic]. Utterly riped in order to receive further instructions from somebody. And we know that we are riped at the same time, rather than that whole thing is purely guesswork. And that begin to bring sense of understanding and a sense of devotion at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=960.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it is like you are really sick. You know you are sick, that there's no question about that. Because you are so sick, you are completely sick, you understand your sickness utterly, properly, thoroughly. And also you understand the possibilities of cure at the same time as well. So, when person is that particular stage, then doctors can relate with you; you can help yourself at the same time. Because you have the real experience of sickness in you, rather than some kind of a psychosomatic and idea kind of sickness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1043.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question of devotion, I think, we should discuss properly in the coming two talks, later on, tomorrow and the day after. But, as far as the present situation is concerned, we could just stop there and discuss about the whole thing again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1090.0,1113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You were talking about the ethnic culture, and you were saying how you start regarding the teacher -- the teacher's stubborn or the teacher misunderstands you -- that you regard that as part of the teaching. Are you saying that that's a trip? That you start tripping out and saying, you know, \"He misunderstood me, but oh, that's part of the teachings,\" or is it just you see it as a misunderstanding or stubbornness, or whatever? Or that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's beginning of the sickness. That when you begin to regard the teaching as come from some ethnic culture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No, but I mean, like if there's a situation in which you-- [laughs] you have an interaction and you say-- and something happens with your teacher, and you feel he's [laughs; laughter] misunderstood you, or he's stubborn or he's not listening to you, you feel resentful. Do you just regard his actions, \"Oh, that's part of the teaching,\" or you just see it as, \"Well, maybe he's just being stubborn,\" or like that? Is that the sick part, when you start saying, \"Oh, that's the teachings\" or \"that's it\" or \"that's it.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think, at the beginning it is necessary to realize the truth, which is that probably teacher has difficulty relating with you, which is a cultural transition, maybe. Any kind of problems of that nature, just face that value. Fact-- face that particular situation, rather than trying to create emotional security for yourself by saying that, \"Everything is part of the teaching.\" And that kind of clear, direct approach. And one has to face that kind of area. Otherwise, that you have a great deal of difficulty later. When you are more involved, you have further problems of that area. So the beginning point is very important. Face the fact that those are just purely human condition that involved, rather than divine providence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1113.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: As far as relating with you personally, do you think that you have a-- that there is some cultural barrier in relating with you? Or is it that people would try-- would *think* that they have to relate to you as an oriental or as something other than American?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, people could create their own barrier, of course. And often I meet usually some seemingly important people or famous people, and they shout at me. [laughter] Obviously, which make themselves more deaf. You know... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, I mean, it seems like by now you've got a pretty good grasp on, you know, English language and American culture.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would like to say, this might be presumptuous, but I feel that there is enough understanding in my part of not only just purely language, but psychology and mentality of the existing culture here. And you see, the question is twofold: that if it presents problem for me as teacher, it present problem to them as students. Then the barrier becomes thickened. So that, as far as I'm concerned, that there's no particular problem, I feel. That and none of these scenes that happens in American world is enigmatic to me anymore. In fact, sometimes boringly too clear, [laughter] and that provides a lot of working basis. And occasionally people come to interviews and we sit together in the room, and they sit on their chair, I sit on-- I am already sitting on my chair. And they forgot all their questions, and they're-- panting very heavily, and the breath is heard and fidget about. And I have to initiate the conversation, and, \"How long have you been here?\" and \"How are you?\" and [laughs; laughter] to all the rest of it. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1262.0,1437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You were talking about, essentially you have to see the sickness within and have a grasp of that as well, as I interpret it, that you also know the solution to the sickness within yourself. Well, I wonder if you could tell me if and what part does meditation play in how can that be used to help you to solve your own...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would say, \"not so fast.\" And the solution comes later. First you have to know how you're sick and why you're sick and what you are sick with. And, if you know your sickness properly, thoroughly, then you can relate with your doctor, your physician. But, if you are somewhat sick, and you want to have a doctor, and doctor comes to you and tells you-- ask you, \"What is the problem?\" And you just say, \"I'm just sick. Please help me.\" And that wouldn't do. So, at least this seminar is concerned, we're going step by step, rather than that everything's vomited at once. And certainly we are not going to vomit right now. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1437.0,1538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm wondering if there's always a doctor. I'm thinking of what you-- the image you used yesterday of the birds, that when they're sick, they know which herbs to go to and which greenery to eat. And I'm wondering if one always has a master, and it's just a question of when one finds him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's interesting question, actually. And, as far as the Buddhist analogy of medicine is concerned, that the physician is also medicine at the same time. That that's the all combined together. When the bird eat that particular herb, that is also that the bird is relating with the physician at the same time. Because that whole process is so very close together. That the teaching and teacher become, you know, one thing at once. So medicine *is* the teaching; teaching is the medicine at same time. It's saying the same thing. Like, you might have a sunbathe-- sunbath. It's the sun as well as the rays at the same time. That's kind of analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1538.0,1619.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89236/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, you mentioned last night about panic undermining our existence. And you mentioned also today a sense of fearlessness. And I get the feeling like the transition between cynicism and devotion is somewhat relating to fear. And you talked about the prajna of knowing yesterday, which is-- has been-- you've talked that before as cutting through conflicting emotions, the veil of conflicting emotions. And what-- I get some sense of emotional upheavals involved with fear and this transition. What-- why is that happening at that time? Or is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, why not? That's how things work. We should-- coming from another country, getting into another country, you have to go through your customs. You can't smuggle anything. Theoretically, of course. 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conflicting\nemotions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1646.78,1649.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what-- I get some sense\nof emotional upheavals involved\nwith fear and this transition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1649.2,1654.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What-- why is that happening\nat that time? Or is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1654.58,1660.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, why not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1660.29,1665.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's how things work.\nWe should--\ncoming from another country,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1668.58,1675.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"getting into another country,\nyou have to go\nthrough your customs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1675.3,1681.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can't smuggle anything.\nTheoretically, of course.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1683.93,1690.953"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I think we should\ncall this end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1696.56,1703.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078#t=1704.35,1705.76"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165487/file/301078/transcript/89237/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/089/237/original/19750412VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1769642347","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/089/237/original/19750412VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1769642347"}]}]}]}